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bwburke94 June 19th, 2012 5:27 PM

It's an error. No question about it.

Xander Olivieri June 19th, 2012 6:18 PM

Only way we'll truly find out is if Matsuda says it is during an Interview, answers a question on Twitter about it, games come out to prove/disprove it.

I'm still hopin that its a real change. I didn't know that the system calculates all the Resistances, weaknesses, and accuracy/Power changes based on what the hosting game was, and with that bit of new knowledge I can't really think of a reason to completely rule out the change now.

Aquarius1997 June 19th, 2012 9:54 PM

Yeaaah most likely a typo for two reasons

1) they wouldnt change a type chart that has the pontential to battle with a previous game too many problems

2) i have proff that guidebooks can be misleading. I have three guide in possesion 2 pokemon 1 zelda they constantly had mistakes so i just started using internet guides

The Fallen June 19th, 2012 10:08 PM

I feel it to be a typo. These type weaknesses, resistances, and immunities have been in place for the longest of times. I am not opposed to such a change, it's more or less the timing. If B2W2 were a new generation I would be 100% accepting of this.

PaxAmericana June 20th, 2012 6:37 AM

Just now, I sent a tweet to Junichi Masuda asking him the question. Hopefully he'll answer.

It could go either way. It could be a typo, or it could be true.

I personally want it to be true, because of the trolls with Wondertombs, and it returns more balance to the types.

giradialkia June 20th, 2012 7:54 AM

It'd be pretty cool if it were true, seeing as it would take away the 'vulnerable to nothing' factor of Spiritomb and Sabeleye (as so many have already have mentioned).

However, as also mentioned in the last post on the previous page, this would cause a compatibility issue between BW and B2W2. And I'm fairly sure I read somewhere it'd be possible to battle/trade from B2W2 back to BW. (If someone can steer me straight on this, that'd be great). So with this in mind, I'mma take this as a typo, because I'm kinda hopeful we can battle/trade between them :3

Jellicent♀ June 20th, 2012 8:18 AM

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Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 7220879)
It'd be pretty cool if it were true, seeing as it would take away the 'vulnerable to nothing' factor of Spiritomb and Sabeleye (as so many have already have mentioned).

However, as also mentioned in the last post on the previous page, this would cause a compatibility issue between BW and B2W2. And I'm fairly sure I read somewhere it'd be possible to battle/trade from B2W2 back to BW. (If someone can steer me straight on this, that'd be great). So with this in mind, I'mma take this as a typo, because I'm kinda hopeful we can battle/trade between them :3

I agree. It'd finally be nice to see those two weak to something. But again, that would cause a serious issue with battling Black and White players (which yes, you are able to trade with!). I have no doubt in my mind that it's a typo. I've had a guidebook that showed a Wigglytuff to have the same stats as a Zapdos, so yeah.

Xander Olivieri June 20th, 2012 8:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 7220879)
It'd be pretty cool if it were true, seeing as it would take away the 'vulnerable to nothing' factor of Spiritomb and Sabeleye (as so many have already have mentioned).

However, as also mentioned in the last post on the previous page, this would cause a compatibility issue between BW and B2W2. And I'm fairly sure I read somewhere it'd be possible to battle/trade from B2W2 back to BW. (If someone can steer me straight on this, that'd be great). So with this in mind, I'mma take this as a typo, because I'm kinda hopeful we can battle/trade between them :3

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7220911)
I agree. It'd finally be nice to see those two weak to something. But again, that would cause a serious issue with battling Black and White players (which yes, you are able to trade with!). I have no doubt in my mind that it's a typo. I've had a guidebook that showed a Wigglytuff to have the same stats as a Zapdos, so yeah.

As far as I've seen there is no actual confirmation of being able to battle between B2W2 and BW but you can definately trade. (You'd assume that battle would be possible as well since they aren't pulling the time capsule thing from G/S) As for compatibility, no it wouldn't effect the compatibility unless a new Type was added that wasn't in the previous game, new attacks were added, or a new ability was added cause then the previous game wouldn't be able to read that data.

Hiroshi had explained how battle between two games that made small changes within the same Generation plays out.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7219283)
Last I heard, the host game dictates the battle rules. If [move x] has a different effect between games and the group leader has Black 2, then Black 2's version of [move x] would prevail over Black's version of [move x].

Just ask the accuracy-changing Hypnosis.


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 20th, 2012 10:49 PM

I guess it could play out like Hypnosis in gen IV did. It's still kind of strange, move accuracy are one thing but type weaknesses changing seems out of the ordinary imo. They should've made this change at the start of the generation, though I guess better late than never.

bwburke94 June 21st, 2012 11:14 AM

Well... has anyone checked this in-game yet?

Xebelleon June 21st, 2012 9:40 PM

I wonder if true... that this so said 'difficulty key thingy' will enable a sort of battle change result. If so, be hilarious if one of them turned to a RBY throwback. *cough*amnesiakingler*cough*

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2012 1:06 AM

It was proably a typo after all as we proably would've gotten confirmation on this by now...

Xander Olivieri June 22nd, 2012 5:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7223432)
It was proably a typo after all as we proably would've gotten confirmation on this by now...

I don't think anyone bothered to test it yet. The guy that gave us majority of our information plowed through the game with his WiFi Event Mewtwo. We'd have to wait for someone to actually test it against someone like the Ghost type E4 member.


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