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Sydian July 14th, 2012 9:11 PM

No, the contests were moved to Lilycove, but I didn't like that. I thought it was cool in RS when you travel to each rank of the contests instead of having them bundled in one place, but maybe that's just me. If they do remake RS and implement things from Emerald though, Battle Tents are the last things I want. They're totally obsolete once you have access to the Frontier. Even Trainer Hills is better than the Tents. Even if they remake Emerald, I hope they don't have them. They're just pointless.

MiTjA July 15th, 2012 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel (Post 7254045)
Couldn't Nintendo just make FRLG available via their Virtual Console service?

Couldn't Nintendo just make RSE available via their Virtual Console service?

Ba dum tsssss

blue July 15th, 2012 6:37 AM

There would be no point in putting RSE or FRLG in the E-Shop considering you can play both RSE & FRLG on the DS Lite which are pretty similar to the 3DS, the graphics would still be the exact same.

T!M July 15th, 2012 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7254706)
There would be no point in putting RSE or FRLG in the E-Shop considering you can play both RSE & FRLG on the DS Lite which are pretty similar to the 3DS, the graphics would still be the exact same.

I could see a point for users of the DSiXL, consoles without the GBA port... :/

MiTjA July 15th, 2012 7:03 AM

..........or the 3DS. lol

Kanto_Johto July 15th, 2012 7:46 AM

As much as I would love RSE remakes, I do agree that any reason to create RSE remakes is as good a reason to make FRLG remakes.

The truth is that remakes of FRLG would make GF piles of money, and we know that's they're main focus: to make games that are profitable. I said this in the Yellow remake thread - there are a large amount of people who played only the first games and are of the opinion that Pokemon "turned crap" after Gen I (which obviously isn't true). This means that even those who are no longer fans of the franchise will be more inclined to pick up these games purely out of nostalgia. It could even be a deciding factor for those who were unsure about purchasing a 3DS (i.e. it might persuade them to buy one).

I actually think that remakes of FRLG would actually sell better than remakes of RSE.

That being said, I would rather have RSE remakes. MiTjA does make a good point though. If FRLG appear on the virtual console, I'd expect RSE to be there too.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 15th, 2012 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 7254215)
I would like the follow me feature to return as an option, I'd like the PokeNav to be the bottom screen function OR have a similar bottom screen to HGSS, add in the new evolutions to the Hoenn Dex (Dusknoir, Froslass, etc) as well as the Johto Pokemon that were added to the Safari Zone in Emerald post game, keep contests as they were in the original games, no Battle Tents, Emerald Battle Frontier, and I'd like something new done with Trainer Hill. I don't think anyone really cared for that, did they? I would like an entirely new function to replace the Trainer Hill. idk what, but they'll think of something, right? lol But that's all I can think of for now.

Perhaps they'll put the World Tournament in Place of Trainer hill, it'll seem like a good place, perhaps we can battle the enemy team there too?. (Also if they remake FrLG have them put the WT in the tower that was never
finished...)

blue July 15th, 2012 11:08 AM

I hope the World Tournament makes an appearence in more games, even though I haven't tried it I can imagine it would be awesome, or atleast one every generation to update the sprites.
About the Follow-Me feature, I would love to see that in RS remakes especially to see the Gen V Pokémon! Hopefully it's something that is exclusive to remakes excluding FRLG.

RandomDSdevel July 15th, 2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Trainer Timothy (Post 7254081)
Alright, how's this for a question? In the event of a RSE Remake, what would you like to see changed from the original 3?

I personally, would prefer that they don't turn the POKeNAV into phone like in Emerald, I liked the original NAV from RS.

I actually want them to keep all of the electronic accessories integrated into a single device–i.e.: a new version of the PokéGear–like they did for everything except the PokéDex and the Vs. Recorder in G/S/C/HG/SS

crystalzapdos July 15th, 2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7253641)
I would love to get an Emerald Remake!
And i would also love to be able to walk along with the first pokemon in the party like in HG & SS

Personally, I hated the feature. I don't care if it comes back, they just need to make it optional. I don't see why they just didn't do that in HG/SS.

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Originally Posted by Olli97 (Post 7253769)
There's also the possibility that they may let you travel to both Johto and Kanto. Team Rocket was the main villain of both first and second generation, and should represent both. Though the likeliness of that happening is questionable. I mean, the main thing they'd work on is of course the story and stuff of the remakes, but then they'd also need to add post-game side quests in the other regions and stuff, and that may take a lot of time. Though I think it's something a lot of fans would want to see.

No, just no. We won't get another region post-game, except maybe a Sevii-Islands type place.

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7253783)

They can't just keep doing the same thing over and over, eventually fans will get tired of this remake system and demand something new and considering there have been two already I think only one more is necessary. They've shown what they can do with B2W2, we predicted a third game but they pulled out two direct sequels so it's just as likely they can come up with something different which would bring in more fans, money etc.

I'm not quite following your logic here. How is a RSE remake necessary because theres already two remakes?

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7254706)
There would be no point in putting RSE or FRLG in the E-Shop considering you can play both RSE & FRLG on the DS Lite which are pretty similar to the 3DS, the graphics would still be the exact same.

I don't understand this either. So what if you can play them on the DS Lite? You can play lots a games on your DS Lite, whats your point?

blue July 15th, 2012 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalzapdos (Post 7255123)
I'm not quite following your logic here. How is a RSE remake necessary because theres already two remakes?

I'm not basing it off the fact that there have been two previous remakes, I'm basing it off the reason of the previous two remakes, graphics... Diamond & Pearl's graphics are fine so there is no need to remake those two, Ruby & Sapphire on the other hand aren't so great, that's the reason why I think remakes for those two are necessary.

wombateiro July 15th, 2012 1:54 PM

Almost all Gym Leaders in Emerald have one Pokemon more than in R/S. It's interesting that Emerald is the only third version with that kind of addition, it's kinda like Challenge Mode in B2/W2. I mean that in remakes they can use Gym Leaders teams from original R/S in Normal mode and teams from Emerald in Challenge mode, of course with higher levels than in Emerald.

RandomDSdevel July 15th, 2012 2:03 PM

Virtual Console…or eShop?
 
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Originally Posted by Kanto_Johto (Post 7254804)
As much as I would love RSE remakes, I do agree that any reason to create RSE remakes is as good a reason to make FRLG remakes.

I actually think that remakes of FRLG would actually sell better than remakes of RSE.

That being said, I would rather have RSE remakes. MiTjA does make a good point though. If FRLG appear on the virtual console, I'd expect RSE to be there too.

Can we just post anything having to do with FRLG remakes on the thread reserved for it? As much as I would like to play every single one of my games, including FireRed and other Pokémon games, the purpose of this thread is to discuss RSE remakes. But before I close, both sets of remakes could be released simultaneously both on the Nintendo eShop if they were both to be for the Nintendo 3DS because of how all Nintendo games will be released this way after August 19th (in North America, that is…)

Kanto_Johto July 15th, 2012 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel (Post 7255242)
Can we just post anything having to do with FRLG remakes on the thread reserved for it? As much as I would like to play every single one of my games, including FireRed and other Pokémon games, the purpose of this thread is to discuss RSE remakes. But before I close, both sets of remakes could be released simultaneously both on the Nintendo eShop if they were both to be for the Nintendo 3DS because of how all Nintendo games will be released this way after August 19th (in North America, that is…)

You mean the thread that I made?

The point of my post (any reason for RSE remakes are as good for FRLG remakes) was relevant to RSE remakes so it fits in this thread too.

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7255228)
I'm not basing it off the fact that there have been two previous remakes, I'm basing it off the reason of the previous two remakes, graphics... Diamond & Pearl's graphics are fine so there is no need to remake those two, Ruby & Sapphire on the other hand aren't so great, that's the reason why I think remakes for those two are necessary.

Outdated graphics are not a reason to remake a game, in my opinion. FRLG and HGSS made sense because it was literally impossible to trade/migrate any of your older Pokemon to gens 3 and 4.

rocky505 July 15th, 2012 5:53 PM

It was not impossible to migrate to gen 4. Frlg were the only remakes needed for obtainable Pokemon. Hgss was because of people going nuts wanting it and for it to have updated graphics.

Aerinoctis July 15th, 2012 9:50 PM

Found this randomly while browsing 4chan and fell in love with it. This seems like the best place to post it, but I just hope that the inevitable remakes look something like this:


wombateiro July 16th, 2012 5:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerinoctis (Post 7255741)
Found this randomly while browsing 4chan and fell in love with it. This seems like the best place to post it, but I just hope that the inevitable remakes look something like this:


Yes, they should wear swimsuits in remakes, just like protagonists from B2/W2, because Hoenn is even more tropical than Unova in B2/W2. Interesting thing is that even in swimsuits their designs wouldn't look much different from Emerald designs, so maybe they were planned to wear swimsuits already in Emerald, but it was decided to be saved for remakes.

MiTjA July 16th, 2012 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerinoctis (Post 7255741)
I just hope that the inevitable remakes look something like this:

They are not inevitable. I would argue that releasing any other kind of main game (completely new places, or resuing old places with new settings, sequels...) would be much more interesting in every way, and make at least as much money as boring remakes.

seeker July 16th, 2012 9:19 AM

I do think they Nintendo will promote a sequel, or even a prequel to Hoenn's generation before they consider doing a remake. I don't think they'll do another remake so soon. A sequel seems a lot more likely and unpredictable.

C Payne July 16th, 2012 10:19 AM

A sequel is probably the last thing they'd do before a remake. It'd be really odd to have one just show up near 10 years(in real time) after the originals are released. Even if they did one, why wouldn't it show up after, in order?

I'm not against a sequel, I just personally would be more interested in one if we got the updated RS(E) originals before any sequel popped out.

voicerocker July 16th, 2012 10:59 AM

I doubt Hoenn will get a sequel because Gen 3 was not designed for sequels. In B/W, we were only told about Reshiram and Zekrom, while Kyurem's story was saved for the sequels. Rayquaza's story was told in the 3rd version of Gen 3, so why would they go with sequels if the Groudon vs. Kyogre battle has already happened? It would make little sense to just have those events happen again when the intent was to tell the whole story back on the GBA. So if Hoenn appears in another game, I feel it would be plain remakes. Gen 5 was made to be finished with sequels, even though that wasn't their original plan.

RandomDSdevel July 16th, 2012 12:02 PM

Hoenn Revisitation Timeline Placement
 
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Originally Posted by Abnegation (Post 7256318)
I do think they Nintendo will promote a sequel, or even a preque to Hoenn's generation before they consider doing a remake.

Yeah; releasing a prequel to RSE might get rid of how these games reset the Polémon franchise by discontinuing connectivity with its previous generations if that prequel clarified the relationship between Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn. After all, this kind of reset ended up being reserved for Polémon Black Version and Polémon White Version because of how it resides on a different continent than all of the previous main regions. But I really want Nintendo to have GameFreak remake our original journeys through Hoenn first.

P.S. @Kanto_Johto: Yes, I meant that thread, and I've even started posting on it.

wombateiro July 16th, 2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by voicerocker (Post 7256430)
I doubt Hoenn will get a sequel because Gen 3 was not designed for sequels. In B/W, we were only told about Reshiram and Zekrom, while Kyurem's story was saved for the sequels. Rayquaza's story was told in the 3rd version of Gen 3, so why would they go with sequels if the Groudon vs. Kyogre battle has already happened? It would make little sense to just have those events happen again when the intent was to tell the whole story back on the GBA. So if Hoenn appears in another game, I feel it would be plain remakes. Gen 5 was made to be finished with sequels, even though that wasn't their original plan.

I agree, Hoenn has nothing left for sequels. On the other hand, it has potential of many things to be added in remakes, like new post-game islands and events.

It must be noticed that sequel stories are made only for regions with connection to solid land, because it gives opportunity to start sequel story in new place - Kanto got story continuation in neighboring Johto. Unova got sequels because of having solid land not included in original B/W. Hoenn and Sinnoh are islands - there is nowhere to make new beginning in those regions. There are also no legendaries left in those regions to make sequels.

Twilight-kun July 16th, 2012 12:47 PM

Gen V is a reboot of the series, taking place far beyond Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh

as for "There's nothing new to add to Ruby and Sapphire" that is complete bull

Crystal added the Battle Tower, Emerald added the Battle Frontier, Platinum and HG/SS added Frontiers to their regions

I, for one, would like to see the Hoenn Frontier re-imagined

however, I would prefer that all new pokemon from Gen IV&V only appear post-game, much like B/W

seeing a Patrat or Bidoof would be rather stupid since we've already got an infestation of Zigzagoons

voicerocker July 16th, 2012 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wombateiro (Post 7256540)
I agree, Hoenn has nothing left for sequels. On the other hand, it has potential of many things to be added in remakes, like new post-game islands and events.

It must be noticed that sequel stories are made only for regions with connection to solid land, because it gives opportunity to start sequel story in new place - Kanto got story continuation in neighboring Johto. Unova got sequels because of having solid land not included in original B/W. Hoenn and Sinnoh are islands - there is nowhere to make new beginning in those regions. There are also no legendaries left in those regions to make sequels.

Of course, surely we'll see a few new places, just like in FR/LG and HG/SS. But no major changes will be made. Gen 1 and 2 remakes were pretty much the exact same region and story from the originals, so if they remake Gen 3, we can expect the same.

But I don't think it has anything to do with them being connected to land or not. Kanto got the Sevii Islands, which were not technically a part of Kanto if I remember correctly, like how the Sinjoh Ruins were not part of Johto. The new routes in B2W2 make sense because 2 years have gone by. We'll probably see new areas, but not a "new" Hoenn.

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Originally Posted by Twilight-kun (Post 7256568)
Gen V is a reboot of the series, taking place far beyond Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh

as for "There's nothing new to add to Ruby and Sapphire" that is complete bull

I was refering to Legends specifically related to Hoenn, like Groudon Kyogre and Rayquaza. Their stories and purposes have been told. Though, I could see Regigigas being included (though he and the other Regis were in B2W2). But the story of the main Hoenn Legends has been told.

I was only talking about the storyline.

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Originally Posted by Twilight-kun (Post 7256568)
however, I would prefer that all new pokemon from Gen IV&V only appear post-game, much like B/W

seeing a Patrat or Bidoof would be rather stupid since we've already got an infestation of Zigzagoons

They would do this because they did it with Kanto and Johto. Pokemon that weren't originally avaiable in the first games were saved for after you become Champion.


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