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The closest thing to a hint IMO are the magma and aqua grunts in iccurus city. They mention what aqua and magma did but why would both of them say what they did when in rs only one of the teams did that. Emerald remake? IMO the grunts should've been version exclusive characters if it were to be a hint at RS remakes.
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If anything, its definitely more of a hint to an Emerald remake rather than R/S remake. |
Well i think it will release in 3DS platform with name
FiercingRuby VastSapphire JadeEmerald well just kiddding, but i really wait for this game release! |
The grunts would be the closest we got to "hints"...
...if it wasn't for the fact that the same house held a Rocket grunt in BW! To clarify, it's just text, they aren't in their costumes or anything. Like the equivalent in BW, they say how they were grunts of said teams in the past, and that you should not tell their wife/husband (who was the opposite team and essentially says the same thing). |
They took the Funky talking Rocket Member's house in Icirrus. It was mentioned earlier in the thread and written off as an Easter Egg simply because they took the Rocket Member's spot.
And no it doesn't really mean Emerald Remake. Ruby, Magma tried to destroy the Region and expand land. Sapphire, Aqua tried to destroy the region and expand the sea. Both events happened, doesn't matter if it was in one game or 2. Both events still happened. And no the closets thing we have for a hint is pretty much the cave with different appearances. The Rocket didn't signify anything when he was in B/W and the Aqua/Magma couple took his house which is only accessible in the winter. It was an Easter Egg in B/W so its an Easter Egg in B2W2. |
They could both be classed as hints or coincidences, we said the exact same about Gold & Silver with many references to Johto and other similarities so it could just be grasping or Nintendo planted them there purposely since they like to know how we think.
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There's actually been more hints for Kanto remakes like Rocket appearing in BW, Rocket's music in Game Freak.
Also I've noticed most aren't considering the hints of Gen IV for RSE remakes. The guy in Sinnoh's resort mentioned he wanted to go see the rocket launch in Mossdeep. Steven appeared in HgSs. There's actually much more hints for remakes in Gen IV than this generation it seems... Also who says we need hints GF can just come out and announce the games out of the blue like they did with FrLg which had no real hints, even less so than Rs remakes have now...we have no real pattern with remakes yet it seems (they might not even come out at all...). |
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That Rustboro theme is probably one of the worst music pieces I've heard in the series. Mainly because it sounds nothing like it's supposed to be. If it were original and not the Rustboro theme, it could work. But that theme has already been established and that...doesn't work. |
I wouldn't go as far as saying Red & Blue banners represent hints towards RS remakes, Red and Blue are the two most commonly used colours so you couldn't call every duo of Red & Blue hints towards Ruby & Sapphire. However, if they are currently working on the remakes atleast they have the Gym Leader sprites ready which I personally love.
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I have a theory, it's not a good one but it's something. Before I say it let me say I know the anime has nothing to do with the games but for promotional purposes I think I can use this.
Have you ever noticed that in the anime after every odd numbered region there is a filler ark? Kanto (Gen I) -> Orange Islands (nothing to promote being R|B|Y were the only games out. Stalling until G|S come out.) -> Jhoto (Gen II) -> Hoenn (Gen III) -> Kanto (used to promote Emerald using the Battle Frontier & FR|LG taking place in Kanto. Stalling until D|P) -> Sinnoh (Gen IV) -> Unova (Gen V) -> ? Maybe they will do what they did with Gen I & III & send Ash on a side quest to either Hoenn (unlikely) or an anime on region like Orange Islands (possible). they could use this side quest to promote R|S|E Remakes like they did with Gen III. If he goes straight to the Gen VI region then maybe the remakes will be released during Gen VI or will not be released at all although I'm hoping they are. It's sort of farfetched but it's something to work with. P.S: For those wondering why they didn't do it with HG|SS it's because it was fully promoted in the DP Series using Lyra & promo for the Pokelthon (spellcheck) without the need of a filler ark. Edit: If we get Remakes I'm excited to see what they do with the contest & secret bases ( I hope they bring these back) |
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Red Gyarados is similar kind of hint like water/magma cave in B2/W2 - something reminding of the region they possibly plan to remake. I would also say that having two opposing groups of Plasma in B2/W2 could be also reference to Hoenn because no other region has two opposing groups. Btw, speculations about R/S remakes resemble the ones about G/S remakes. Like in this article from 2007: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Diamond,_Pearl_and_what_beyond%3F |
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Perhaps for the remakes they could also add the Ryukyu islands for new areas to explore,which are south of Kyushu (in Hoenn's case they would be in the east). They could be like Hoenn's version of the Sevii islands.
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The next year should be interesting, as I think there is no doubt we will get another main game next year since we already had (almost) the two year gap between B/W and B2W2, so we should get at least one other main game next year before GF has another 2 year gap before releasing the next main series game. So, it could be either R/S remakes or Gen VI. I see it being Gen VI though, because I just don't see them releasing R/S remakes on DS anymore and I don't see them making the first 3DS main game.. a remake.
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The caves? No, they won't make everyone think of RS. They could still be a homage to RS of course, but they are nowhere near what the Red Gyarados was in for. Some random kid that doesn't check the internet for any poke news all the time, when playing White 2, it'll go like "oh a lava cave, how awesome is that", and won't even know its a boring water-themed cave in Black 2 unless they play it too... I mean, if the caves weren't showcased in corocoro to point out another difference between versions, it would have taken much longer for this thread to notice it. Also, the new plasma reminded me of Johtos Rocket if anything, not Aqua/Magma at all... |
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It's also arguable if red Gyarados on TV was direct reference to G/S/C because it doesn't say where that Gyarados is. It could every region because shiny Pokemon can appear in every region (except gen 1). I agree it was hint, but disagree with saying that it was direct reference without any doubt. Quote:
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The Red Gyarados story from DPPt is most definitely a direct reference to the GSC games. Otherwise why would they just randomly include something as obvious as that? |
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There also wasn't a Water Cave exclusive to Sapphire and a Magma Cave Exclusive to Ruby.
And what? When did Kyurem stop the fight between Zekrom and Reshiram? I never saw that happen. Old Plasma and New Plasma don't oppose each other in the same way that Aqua and Magma did. If anything they hardly oppose each other at all. They simply don't share the same view but are working towards the same goal. The Plasma relationship in B2W2 is nothing like Aqua/Magma's relationship. Cheren, your Rival, and you are the only ones directly attacking Team Plasma the other Plasma team are just sitting and waiting for N. So there was no fight in B2W2 that relates to any fights in R/S. Spoiler:
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