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Which brings me back to my original point. Why then insist on plain remakes that mostly just upgrade the graphics, instead of making a new game right away? |
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I honestly don't wanna see a Gen VI. I just don't see what else they could do, new Pokemon wise at least. If it's just a new story, then I'm all for it. |
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Pokemon designs have unlimited options, from being based on millions of real life organisms, thousands of mythological creatures, reverse mimicry for inanimate obejcts, or even just cliches, stereotypes, puns, or heck even things like just fighting techniques or other concepts and ideas. Not to mention the infinite combinations of any of these. With BW they have proven that even if they intentionally go and use the same concepts, they still manage to make them completely fresh and unique. Do I have to point out the hundreds of dedicated fakemon creators, uploading thousands of their own pokemon and never running out of ideas simply because the franchise has the limits set at the edge of the possible. lol |
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Also, I agree with the suggestion that R/S/E remakes are likely to be made in Gen VI. GF have already given us two paired games this gen, and on the whole it feels as though Gen V is coming to a close, especially with eventual retirement of the DS console and the 3DS taking the spotlight. |
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I'd love for them to focus more on the story. They did it extremely well in b/w, especially when continuing it in another game. I'd love to see more continuations in stories, rather than whole new generations of Pokemon every 4 years. We have plenty now that just seem very under utilized every gen, and will continue to be even moreso once new Pokemon are introduced. |
I was honestly surprised when they announced Black 2 and White 2. I, along with many others, expected a third generation remake, as we had precedent from the kanto and johto remakes. I was looking forward to them more than I would like to admit >.< But c'est la vie, it is what it is. We can at least expect that the remakes will come sometime in the fifth generation.
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But at the same time, that's what keeps the game interesting. Like in real life, there is an infite amount of animals and we keep discovering more. The idea is that each region is completely unique and different from the previous one. The 'new starter pokemon' thing may be a bit repetetive, but it is tradition. There might not be any particular reason in creating new regions in another generation if there aren't any new pokemon to introduce. I suppose what I'm saying is, each region is identified with the generation of new pokemon that they have. That's why through the initial play through of FR, LG, HG, and SS, you couldn't catch pokemon outside of that region's regional pokedex, and none at all from the games introduced in the same generation that succeed the original games the remakes were created based off of. So if they lengthened the time between the new generations, that would be fine with me. I'm not the least bit impatient for a new one, even if we know they're coming. |
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Gen 5 didn't change much. Battle Subway = Battle Tower from previous gens, the same like World Tournament = Battle Frontier. R/S remakes would do even better than HG/SS because they would have their own Battle Frontier, not copied from from previous game like HG/SS. Quote:
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We can't really discuss this now because we must see December poster first. It's possible that Gensesct will start being distributed now without proper reveal (for the purpose of Pokedex 3D Pro, it will have Genesect's data) and have full reveal in February/March. For example Deoxys was obvious to be on December 2003 poster, but still, it was fully revealed later in March 2004. Check this poster: http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/05/Japanese_M07_teaser_poster.png |
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If they used that setting and took yet another step forward, by introducing say 50 more pokes, and then justifiying a jump to 3DS without the usual main games. It would work nostalgia and as a new game at the same time. Id love it :E |
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I wouldn't call RSE remakes "inevitable" seeing as how the original GBA versions can still be played on the same system that B2W2 were designed to be played on. Quote:
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Silver and Gold - 1999 (3 years later) Ruby and Sapphire - 2002 (3 years later) Diamond and Pearl - 2006 (4 years later) Black and White - 2010 (4 years later) 3 or 4 years is not "often". That's just enough time for everyone to learn and get use to all the Pokemon introduced. Quote:
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As for that Deoxys poster, before February 2004, Deoxys was still a secret Pokemon, known only to those who spoiled themselves by researching on the internet. It was not recognized as an official Pokemon until Feb '04. The first Deoxys event would not come until that June, right before the Deoxys movie. Yes, no movie has starred a new Gen Pokemon without showing all event Pokemon, but Gen 3 and 4 also had remakes which had to be advertised, which is why Mew, Kyogre, Celebi, the Johto beasts, and Spiky eared Pichu were in the movies. If no remakes are coming, we'll see a Gen 6 Pokemon. Any Pokemon that served as promotion for the remakes was revealed in December (Celebi, Pichu), not February. If you don't believe Gen 5 is ending next year, why do you think they are revealing all the event Pokemon so close together? Going on past trends with events, it should go like this: 2012 - Keldeo movie 2013 - Meloetta movie 2014 - Genesect movie 2015 - First Gen 6/Gen 3 remake movie This clearly won't happen, so how exactly do you see things happening? Quote:
Plus, REMAKES would be just that: remakes. FRLG and HGSS were at their core, the same games as the originals. I see little reason for them to only make a handful of Pokemon just to revisit an old region where old Pokemon will outshine them in the end. If they use Hoenn again, it needs to be in remakes, regardless of whether it's only Emerald, Ruby and Sapphire, or even all three. If not, they should go straight to Gen 6. |
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Meloetta broke the pattern of being event Pokemon and not having full movie, so Genesect could broke the patter of February reveal. It's possible because it's the first time there is something like Pokedex 3D Pro, so that could be reason of early Genesect reveal. Maybe they will just show some other Pokemon featured in movie on December poster and Genesect on February/March poster. |
Well remember they revealed Arceus before HgSs were announced so it wouldn't be strange if they the same with Genesect. Who knows perhaps there might even be a Genesect event in the remakes like Deoxys in Kanto (Sevii islands), Arceus activated an event in HgSs. Perhaps Plasma hid it away in that region so that it may not be found...
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Then there will be a Lairon in some teaser and this thread will go wild.
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Perhaps in Genesect movie Kyogre and Groudon will play important role associating with R/S remakes. None of the gen 3 mascots was featured in Japanese movie title so far, so they finally might be featured. Maybe there will be even dual movie again, one with Kyogre and one with Groudon. That water/magma cave from B2/W2 could have something to do with all of this.
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And I HIGHLY doubt it will be another dual movie. The reason they did that for Reshiram and Zekrom was because of the truth vs. ideals theme Gen 5 has, where neither side is necessarily wrong. It also reflected the game, where in one game, N gets Reshiram and the other he gets Zekrom. There's no reason for Kyogre and Groudon to get that treatment. There's also no evidence of those caves in B2W2 having any significant purpose other than housing a few Pokemon. It was proven Groudon and Kyogre aren't in them. What will be a key factor is when they decide to reveal Genesect. It's July 2012, if they reveal it soon, it won't be the February announcement. That Deoxys poster was revealed in December, but it was basically a silouette. Deoxys's full image was not revealed until February or early March. We only knew it was Deoxys because of hackers finding it in the coding, just like we know about Genesect now. |
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Speaking of devices in R/S remakes - in R/S/E there are two devices in Devon Corp which aren't completed yet. One device is meant to make visualizations of Pokemon dreams - it could be used for Dream World. Another one is meant to talk with Pokemon - I think it could be used with following Pokemon feature, making it much better than in HG/SS, being able to know what exactly Pokemon is saying. |
There is no ancient genesect. All team plasma did was slap a cannon on its back. Creating a new forme of genesect without a cannon on its back is more pointless than keldeo's new form.
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The armor might also be Plasma's but who knows.
I don't really think Genesect will have a new forme in the remakes...if it did B2W2 would proably have some code or something. But I can't say that for sure as I haven't looked at the codes or know anything about that sort of thing. Anyways if there is no be a significant Pokemon in the movie it'll proably be either the electric rabbits or the Hoenn starters. The Rabbits because they are pika clone and they also appeared in Rayquaza's movie the last Hoenn theme movie. |
There has to be a serious star in the movie and its not gonna be Genesect. This is very simple and obvious.
Meaning remakes dont fit from yet another viewpoint, besides the games having to go 3DS next which sure as heck won't be through remakes. |
A 6th gen Pokemon won't be a main star in the next movie. If one was then the birds would also be in from what I see.
Lucario fought the Regis Zoroark fought the beasts 6th gen star will most likely fight the birds. The next movie is genesect's time to shine not an entirely new Pokemon. |
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Lugia fought the Bird trio before so if any it might be the Lake trio or maybe even the Kami trio as those two trio's haven't been in a movie yet. How is it obvious it won't be Genesect though and how does that disprove or really prove remakes? Ontopic: I'm hoping they add White Forest and Black City into the remakes. White for Kyogre, and Black for Groudon so that way there will be more compability. Also speaking of those two they will have to upgrade the Pokenav with all the new features if the remakes are to include all the high link, dream world features as B2W2. |
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