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.::t w i l i g h t::. January 20th, 2005 7:18 PM

Umbreon or Espeon? 0-0
 
Who is better? Sneaky, smooth Umbreon, or smart, sophisticated Espeon?

Claire January 21st, 2005 3:15 AM

Is it just me, or do umbreon/espeon come up a lot in pokemon general O.O
Well, my fave is umbreon because it can be both cute and evil ^^

NaVeR January 21st, 2005 3:26 AM

Umbreon for me ^^

It's so sleek and... dark! XD
I also absolutely ADORE Shiny Umbreons. And they work as really good BPassers in the game. Plus, Shigeru has one in the anime >>;

Yeah, that and Espeon's fork-tail thing freaks me out o_O...

IceKitten January 21st, 2005 4:01 AM

Umbreon!

It's a great tank!

*Drives it*

[Technya] January 21st, 2005 7:41 AM

Umbreon! Both evil and dark. Need I say more?

Dragonfree January 21st, 2005 7:52 AM

Espeon all the way. I hate defensive Pokémon.

deathbyalice January 21st, 2005 7:55 AM

Umbreon! Just like mu fan club!

sybersaur3000 January 21st, 2005 5:32 PM

I'd say Umbreon because it has an advantage over Espeon and it looks real tough!XD

.::t w i l i g h t::. January 21st, 2005 5:45 PM

Yay! More Umby luvverz! ^_^

Sassydoll76 January 21st, 2005 5:55 PM

i like em both but 4 cutness id have to go to espeon

MegaDitto January 21st, 2005 6:02 PM

Umberon,Strong ,Dark.skilled and Fierce.

Virtual Headache January 21st, 2005 6:32 PM

I like Espeon more, because I think it looks a bit better than Umbreon

Mr Cat Dog January 22nd, 2005 3:22 AM

If Nintendo wanted to make Umbreon better, they would have given it a wider range of defensive moves to benefit its extensive defences. Espeon has good stats forn attacker, and looks nicer IMO. MCD's vote goes to Espeon ^_^

THIRTY-SIX January 22nd, 2005 3:28 AM

i dont care for the 'technical' stuff i say ubreon cuz he looks better and isnt it weird how the good guys have umbreon Gary had one in johto episodes and the bad guys have espeon the rocket lady from pokemon heroes

jynx January 22nd, 2005 4:10 AM

Espeon go!!

It is such a good Pokemon

Magikarp1973 January 22nd, 2005 8:36 AM

I have giving my vote for Espeon.

~Dragonair~ January 22nd, 2005 12:05 PM

I like Espeon the most since it´s cuter then Umbreon but that´s my opinion though, Umbreon is pretty cool too.

Kitsune_girl January 22nd, 2005 12:16 PM

For looks I'd have to go with Umbreon, but I would prefer Espeon in battle. I voted for both of them, as there both awsome pokemon n_n

Dignity January 22nd, 2005 12:25 PM

i like espeon i think it is sexsi for a pkmn <3 XD

Akio123 January 22nd, 2005 1:15 PM

Umbreon is one of my favorite pokemon so that is where my vote gos to.

dark_croconaw January 22nd, 2005 4:14 PM

Umbreon because its a dark pokemon.

Lady Pearl January 22nd, 2005 8:16 PM

I'm voting for both. =3 I like Umbreon's sleek fur and sly looks and Espeon's psychic powers, cuteness, elegance, stats, and movepools!

Castrainer January 26th, 2005 6:51 AM

...Espeon.
Umbreon isnt very nice... at my opinion~

Eliana January 26th, 2005 8:50 AM

^^ Espeon.
Now dont get me wrong, Umbreon is very useful, but it cannot learn Psychic attacks.
Espeon can be taught Bite AND Psychic attacks, which is extremely useful in Gold and Silver for the Elite Four.

deathbyalice January 26th, 2005 9:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eliana
^^ Espeon.
Now dont get me wrong, Umbreon is very useful, but it cannot learn Psychic attacks.
Espeon can be taught Bite AND Psychic attacks, which is extremely useful in Gold and Silver for the Elite Four.

Actually, Umbreon can learn Psychic attacks. Like most dark and normal types, he can learn a wide variety of elemental attacks, like thunder and watergun and fireblast. He can lean Psychic as well.

The Great Saiyaman January 26th, 2005 9:41 AM

I hate both of those evolutions! Espeon looks like a fish and Umbreon belongs in a goth video instead of pokemon.

Esai January 26th, 2005 9:43 AM

umbrn my fvrte! lke deathbyalice sez it cn lrn lds of atks.

(umbreons my favourite! like deathbyalice says it can learn loads of attacks)

[Technya] January 26th, 2005 9:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman
I hate both of those evolutions! Espeon looks like a fish and Umbreon belongs in a goth video instead of pokemon.

O...kay but those aren't really real reasons why you hate them. BTW there's nothin' wrong with Umbreon lookin' like it should be in a goth video <_<. Sounds like a cool idea though ^_^

The Great Saiyaman January 26th, 2005 9:51 AM

Well,I just hate the design of the pokemon thats all. They look out of place.

deathbyalice January 26th, 2005 9:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow of Ash
O...kay but those aren't really real reasons why you hate them. BTW there's nothin' wrong with Umbreon lookin' like it should be in a goth video <_<. Sounds like a cool idea though ^_^

Umbreon in a goth video...lol. We need Absol, and Haunter and Shuppet now too!

[Technya] January 26th, 2005 9:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathbyalice
Umbreon in a goth video...lol. We need Absol, and Haunter and Shuppet now too!


LOL wonder what the name of the band will be :P

deathbyalice January 26th, 2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow of Ash

LOL wonder what the name of the band will be :P

lol something Dark! MWAHAHAHAHA!!! That's it!
Something Dark! lol.

Wolf_Goddess January 26th, 2005 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deathbyalice
Actually, Umbreon can learn Psychic attacks. Like most dark and normal types, he can learn a wide variety of elemental attacks, like thunder and watergun and fireblast. He can lean Psychic as well.

Err, isn't Umbreon pure dark?

Eon-Rider January 26th, 2005 7:20 PM

Umbreon, same reason as deathbyalice

[Technya] January 26th, 2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Goddess
Err, isn't Umbreon pure dark?

Yes, he is but so is Absol and it can learn elemental attacks. Like DBA said before a nice percent of normal and some dark(Umbreon, Absol) can learn not just dark type attacks but elemental attacks as well. If I'm wrong about that then sorry.

The Fallen January 27th, 2005 3:44 PM

I would say Umbreon, cause he's a dark type pokemon lol.

ashley03 January 27th, 2005 3:45 PM

Umbreon all the way!!i don't like Espeon all that much,for some odd reason

Wolf_Goddess January 27th, 2005 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman
I hate both of those evolutions! Espeon looks like a fish and Umbreon belongs in a goth video instead of pokemon.

*Laughs*
Though I like Espeon, I must agree.

Kylie-chan January 29th, 2005 10:11 PM

Umbreon is cute. XD

Espeon is just... just... it looks... well not as cool. XD

Kaylee February 1st, 2005 7:59 PM

Umbreon! Because it is kawaii and Dark is my favorite! ^^

Lord of the Spheal February 1st, 2005 11:18 PM

Hmmmm... thats a tough one. Well, I guess I'll go with Espeon because I like Psychic types a slight bit more than i like dark types.

_Rayquaza_Adict_ February 2nd, 2005 5:50 PM

.............
 
Umbreon.

It has abilitys such as one weakness., two types that don't effect it, rock and steel poke'mon most of the time can get hurt more by dark, it isn't not very effective in other words, and then it can learn psychic attacks to get rid of fighting type threats.

Kayota February 2nd, 2005 6:36 PM

Umbreon. Its markings are too cool! XD

_Rayquaza_Adict_ February 2nd, 2005 6:39 PM

.........
 
Yeah, it looks like it should be a ancient ledgendary poke'mon, Rayquaza has almost the same markings.

Psychotic_Demon February 2nd, 2005 6:50 PM

My username says it all. Espeon. *hugs Espy* ^_^ Of corse, I like Dark Espies better than the regular ones.... Oh well!

Trikip February 6th, 2005 2:54 PM

I like Umbreon because I like dark Pokemon.

mew_master February 6th, 2005 3:30 PM

look wise i like umbreon better, but in battle i think espeon is a much better fighter, even though it's defense is really low

.::t w i l i g h t::. February 6th, 2005 3:48 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRG I have to post again just to say I LOVE Umbreon! SHE R0X YOUR S0X!!

Espeon Master February 6th, 2005 5:05 PM

Espeon!! I absolutly love espeon! *hugglez* heh, just look at my username.

Kura February 6th, 2005 5:25 PM

@@ hhmm.. well i love both of them..
.. i like espeon because of it's ability to learn 'bite' and it's a psychic :3 and it's stats are good..
but.. then there's umbreon ._. and it can learn psychic attacks..
>> um.. um..
well i like umbreon alot :3 it reminds me of someone i know <3 teh..
dark and mysterious and kyyuutee! :3
@@ espeon is pretty..
um.. i guess i'll go with umbreon.. or something ._...

.::t w i l i g h t::. February 6th, 2005 6:31 PM

Yeah, but Espeon looks kinda stiff and stuck up...¬ ¬ But Umbreon is free and graceful.. ^ ^

Psychic*Absol February 9th, 2005 9:37 AM

@[email protected] A tough choice... I like both espeon and umbreon. But since I like psychic types more^*points to name*, I'll choose espeon. ^^

kjutz February 9th, 2005 10:05 AM

I'd have to say umbreon, I agree with The Great Saiyaman, Espeon does look like a fish.

Silver Ninetales February 11th, 2005 11:33 PM

I'll have to say that I much prefer Espeon to Umbreon. I never really did like the idea of "Dark" Pokémon. . . . In my opinion, Espeon is more graceful and sophisticated--Umbreon is still graceful, don't get me wrong, but I've just always been a fan of the more sophisticated and elegant style Pokémon (hence, Ninetales in my username and avatar).

Though in battle, I find them both to be useful--I use them both in Silver Version. It seems like they are both opposites on everything: the time that they change from Eevee into one or the other (incidentally, I nicknamed my Espeon "Sunrise" and my Umbreon "Midnight"), their types, and their battle techniques. Espeon is strong on offense, while Umbreon is strong on defense. Interestingly enough, they both have their own healing moves (Espeon has Morning Sun, Umbreon has Moonlight). Espeon can finish a battle quickly and sometimes make it through without a scratch, while Umbreon can stay in battle and finish everything slowly, still coming out with a lot of HP. It really just depends on your preference--what you think looks best, and what your battle style is (if you play the video game, that is).

Sorye HK February 11th, 2005 11:41 PM

Umbreon as I prefer dark types and also because Espeon just scares me a bit.

FoxyVulpix February 12th, 2005 12:13 AM

I like Espeon... she's one of those cute Pokemon, and I love cute Pokemon. She is also so graceful.

Ash_Pokemaster February 14th, 2005 7:51 AM

Of course Espeon. I like it more than Umbreon because I'm not a defensive Trainer but Attacker, so Espeon's Attack is better than Defence, so.

xantor February 18th, 2005 3:25 PM

I like Espeon, for some reason I've never really liked Umbreon that much. I also evolved espeon first so yeah.

Blaziken Trainer February 18th, 2005 4:11 PM

Umbreon(He is my fav Dark Type)

scolari February 18th, 2005 4:27 PM

i would have to vote for both i own an eon site and this makes me think all eons are equal lol both have good and bad points but there my two fav types as well i live dark and physic

SapphireL February 18th, 2005 9:41 PM

I'm gonna have to go with Espeon. I like sweeper Pokemon a lot. Espeon looks a lot more friendly too...

Vaporeon February 19th, 2005 3:10 PM

I chose Umbreon. Umbreon just looks a bit more wolf-like than Espeon is. ^____^ I also love how at night, if the moon's shining bright, then Umbreon's yellow circles glow. <3<3

~Kelsey

coachwhipneoship February 20th, 2005 6:57 AM

Umbreon...I love Espeon but if I had to put the Eevee-lutions in order that I like them, it'd be: Jolteon, Vaporeon, Umbreon, Flareon, Espeon. I think.

Professor Oak February 20th, 2005 10:14 AM

I am an Umbreon person myself, but in one of my most versatile teams I use both.

MoonlightPoochyena February 20th, 2005 6:45 PM

Umbreon all the way! Reasons:

1. Good tank *sends it into the army* :D
2. Mmm, Dark type, yay!
3. It is so sleek and 00ber kyoot
4. Favorite Johto Pokemon

Omega593 February 25th, 2005 10:24 PM

I would probably take Umbreon over Espeon because they're aren't many Dark-type Pokemon out there.

Draogon_Reborn March 12th, 2005 1:11 PM

i would have to go w/ umbreon

ashley03 March 12th, 2005 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draogon_Reborn
i would have to go w/ umbreon

100% agree,Esypeon is to girly for me..i like raw power and black(or dark colors)

Chibi Pika March 12th, 2005 2:49 PM

Umbreon is my second fav. Eeveelution, so I'm definitely going with him. I love the dark, sleek look, although his stupid defensive stats bug me. I don't care if he's a tank, he needs Sp.Att.

~Chibi~

Natsuki March 12th, 2005 3:00 PM

I really love both of them. ^_____^ Umbreon is the "moonlight" Pokemon and Espeon is the "sunlight" Pokemon. ^^ Not only are they a great combination in battle, but they each have their own unique qualities. ^o^

Umbreon is master of the night and its gold circles glow when the moon is out at night. ^__^

Espeon is so beautiful and has the awsome ability to read the minds of its opponents. =O

So, I vote for both Umbreon and Espeon. <3

~Kelsey

Crystal Clair March 12th, 2005 3:02 PM

I like both Umbreon and Espeon
Umbreon: it's cry in the anime, it's color, it's yellow rings
Espeon: it looks so much like Clair, it's eyes, it's cry in the anime and it's handsome feline resemblence.

Hantsuki March 12th, 2005 3:05 PM

I love Umbreon! The symbol of darkness..it's beautiful red eyes..and it's great special defense!

Dragon_Reborn April 1st, 2005 6:06 AM

hmm...i like both of them but i would have to go with umbreon

Highwind April 1st, 2005 7:18 AM

Umbreon because its dark type :badsmile:

Breakout April 1st, 2005 7:21 AM

I like umbreon more, it looks cooler and in my game is stronger than espeon.

Rhykasho April 1st, 2005 8:54 AM

Im going to have to go with Umbreon because its both evil and cute plus its my fav Pokemon ever :D

Ninja Retsu April 1st, 2005 8:13 PM

I think Espeon. he is really cool and strong.

MewthreeXL April 1st, 2005 8:36 PM

Umbreon is definately the best IMO.

Lust April 2nd, 2005 6:10 PM

I like Umbreon better. Cooler looking.

Hantsuki April 2nd, 2005 6:16 PM

Umbreon has great special defense and Espeon has great special attack and it just plain looks cool,though Espeon looks really cool itself,but I prefer Umbreon more^^

Forgotten_hope April 2nd, 2005 6:25 PM

I like Umbreon more then espeon.I like Umbreon cause it looks cool,and is an all around good pokemon.

~Amethyst_Callista_Moon~ April 3rd, 2005 3:17 PM

Umbreon because it can beat Espeon!

Ichikool April 3rd, 2005 3:24 PM

I guess I love Espeon more. She looks more cat-like. ^_^ And I love psycic pokemon. ^_^

Pookie April 3rd, 2005 3:26 PM

Well, if we're talking about in a pokemon game I'd say Umbreon because I like it's defenses. But in general and looks-wise I absolutely love Espeon, so yea, I'd have to go with Espeon.

pokemonemrald April 7th, 2005 6:07 PM

Umbreon I think he just looks cooler

Thegame April 9th, 2005 10:04 AM

I like umbreon cuz dark is in my opinon the best type of pokemon

super dude April 10th, 2005 8:31 AM

umbreon bc you wouldnt want to run into him in a dark alley especially w/ those freaky eyes...

Cresselia April 10th, 2005 10:27 AM

Espeon! It has stronger attacks and is smart, cute and PINK!! XD

00ginburf April 13th, 2005 7:28 AM

Umbreon, by far one of the coolest looking, and great stats, plus a great move pool.

Ash15 May 13th, 2005 5:27 AM

Espeon! He's the stronger one and go great with my Vaperon(Spelling?).

Porygon May 13th, 2005 5:34 AM

Mwar, Umbreon, it's a Dark-type, and so awesomly cool ^_^
And a really good Anthro subject ^_^

Gyardosamped May 13th, 2005 7:57 PM

I think umbreo0ns better than espeon!
But just in my opinion:)

MewSkitty May 14th, 2005 8:07 AM

I like them both equaly. Umbreon is cool and mystic. Espeon is smart and powerful. I once had a team with nothing but Eevee evolutions.

Abskull May 14th, 2005 8:16 AM

Both! I love dark pokemon, yet Espeon is so pretty! But Umbreons cool... but! I dunno...

Egyptian Sphinx May 19th, 2005 4:16 PM

Espeon psychic attack! Espeon is a good advantage for ghost Pokemon so I'd vote for Espeon

Baker's Bulbasaur May 19th, 2005 4:23 PM

ill go with umbereon, since ive been using the new background of this site with the umbereon on it, ive really taken a linking to him!

Iveechan May 19th, 2005 4:37 PM

I laugh at people who think Umbreon combats fighters with Psychic. Yeah, maybe ingame it can, but not in a real battle. Its special attack is very low.

Anyways, I hate 'em both. One, I dislike Eevee and its neo eeveelutions (the kanto ones are all right), two, they're overrated and everywhere in fiction and art (especially Umbreon), and three is that I dislike them in battling... Umbreon is too defensive and slow and Espeon is too limited.

Oh yeah, and Umbreon can't learn many elemental attacks. Like the other eons, it's very limited.

Silver Blaze May 27th, 2005 2:53 AM

Umbreon becuase it's my second fave Eeveeloution! =D

Coming in close second to Flare-flare ^_^;

Nine May 29th, 2005 7:54 AM

Umbreon, it just looks cooler... Even though it sucks at battling.

United squirtle May 30th, 2005 6:19 PM

espeon for me its wicked.


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