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jellotime91 October 14th, 2012 11:43 AM

Where are Hilda and Hilbert?
 
I was on that website that shows you all the animated sprites from BW2, and there are 2 sprites each that represent the original BW trainers. Where do you think Hilda and Hilbert are? Are they still searching for N, or are they traveling around Unova just out of your reach?

Also, on the second sprite they each had some kind of device on their arm... What is that thing?

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Rivvon October 14th, 2012 11:54 AM

I don't know if Hilda and Hilbert return in B2W2; it seems like those animated sprites are simply for battles where the opponent is playing with BW.

As for their device, it's a Wonder Launcher, which basically allows you to use items in some Infrared/Wi-fi battles.

Now, as for where they could be, in the post-game you can
Spoiler:
visit Nuvema, and Hilda/Hilbert's mother tells you that they went looking for N, which honestly breaks my heart because N is back in Unova at this time.

But who knows, maybe they will be in the gen 6 region! ;3

Xander Olivieri October 14th, 2012 12:35 PM

Hilbert and Hilda have battle sprites because you can battle them on the old games. I think Rosa and Nate will appear as Hilda/Hilbert when you battle against the old games though.

Either way they are only there for Wifi battles. Neither are in the actual game.

Hikamaru October 14th, 2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7372345)
Hilbert and Hilda have battle sprites because you can battle them on the old games. I think Rosa and Nate will appear as Hilda/Hilbert when you battle against the old games though.

Either way they are only there for Wifi battles. Neither are in the actual game.

Yes, Nate/Rosa will appear as Hilbert/Hilda when you battle against B/W.

They don't appear in the game but the sprites are there for the connectivity reasons. I guess that's why they made animated sprites for them.

rizoph October 14th, 2012 5:24 PM

It would be cool to see them in B2/W2. Unfortunately, we can only dream.

Bubbles987 October 14th, 2012 5:34 PM

Dead? No, no. I'm kidding ;) (Why do I always guess that?)
Maybe they got the rest of Unova badges and went to a new region? I mean, excluding second gen., where do any of the characters go?

RedJ October 14th, 2012 6:56 PM

If anything, I'm expecting them to show up in a Wi-Fi event, sort of like how Giovanni did in HG/SS. I mean, if N is back in Unova, then surely Hilbert/Hilda would know by now...unless they were working with Looker/International Police/other form of authority, in which case they could very well be on the other side of the world by now >_> Because let's be honest, the authorities in the Pokemon world don't seem to be the brightest or most effective bunch.

Satoshi Ookami October 14th, 2012 10:57 PM

It's interesting that Hs are looking for N and N was actually looking for them...
Maybe they aren't destined to meet and that's why N is in Unova while those 2 are in Hoenn or somewhere else.

Plumpyfoof October 15th, 2012 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 7372945)
It's interesting that Hs are looking for N and N was actually looking for them...
Maybe they aren't destined to meet and that's why N is in Unova while those 2 are in Hoenn or somewhere else.

Which begs the question. Black and White 3.. in Hoenn? Yay or nay?
Maybe that could be a RSE re-make but have Hilbert and Hilda mentioned as well as May and Brendan.

Pharetra October 15th, 2012 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 7372945)
It's interesting that Hs are looking for N and N was actually looking for them...
Maybe they aren't destined to meet and that's why N is in Unova while those 2 are in Hoenn or somewhere else.

SPOILER ALERT
Spoiler:

Was N really looking for them? I thought N said that he came back to Unova because Zekrom / Reshiram told him Kyurem was suffering.

Legobricks October 15th, 2012 10:18 PM

Someone (I think Cheren) says that both heroes of the legendaries are off someplace with them.
Of course we get to meet N, so I assume the B/W protagonist is travelling the world.


Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7372345)
Hilbert and Hilda have battle sprites because you can battle them on the old games. I think Rosa and Nate will appear as Hilda/Hilbert when you battle against the old games though.

Either way they are only there for Wifi battles. Neither are in the actual game.

But why are they now animated? Or were they always?

Xander Olivieri October 16th, 2012 8:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassino (Post 7373952)
Someone (I think Cheren) says that both heroes of the legendaries are off someplace with them.
Of course we get to meet N, so I assume the B/W protagonist is travelling the world.



But why are they now animated? Or were they always?

I would assume because all the trainer sprites are animated. Why animate all but two?

Pinta77 October 16th, 2012 1:06 PM

Wierd. I thought the characters from b2 w2 were suppossed to be the same ones from black and white. They look awfully similar.

Rivvon October 16th, 2012 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-Sign (Post 7373173)
SPOILER ALERT
Spoiler:

Was N really looking for them? I thought N said that he came back to Unova because Zekrom / Reshiram told him Kyurem was suffering.

To answer a spoiler with a spoiler:
Spoiler:
After you defeat N in his castle when he only has Reshiram/Zekrom, he says he wants to find Hilda/Hilbert to say "Thank you." /mytears

jellotime91 October 17th, 2012 3:49 PM

Thanks all for your answers and interesting theories!!

I'd love to see an anime series about HH hunting down N or something... Would be so much better than Pokemon is now. -.-

Shining Raichu October 17th, 2012 4:15 PM

I don't know where they are, but my theory is that they are off on a quest to find and murder their parents for giving them such stupid names.

Hookersmacker October 17th, 2012 5:52 PM

They went to the Hoenn Region to make remakes
HOENN COMFIRMED.

Ikuto October 17th, 2012 9:50 PM

If you talk to Hilbert/Hilda's mother, you find out where they are in BW2

Spoiler:
They are in another region looking for N

Satoshi Ookami October 18th, 2012 3:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 7375905)
I don't know where they are, but my theory is that they are off on a quest to find and murder their parents for giving them such stupid names.

Well... that works for American versions ;)

SnowpointQuincy October 18th, 2012 12:05 PM

Hilda/Hilbert took their Legendary Dragon to Sinnoh. They must battle Giratina in the Reverse World to correct the seasons. (because currently the seasons are only a month long.)

It would be SO AWESOME to battle YOURSELF via Unova Link. It could take pokemon from your battle box, or from your first Elite Four Clear.

Zayphora October 18th, 2012 12:09 PM

^agreed.

Yes, they ARE in the Distortion World....but do do something COMPLETELY different. If you remember that the Distortion World was known as "the Reverse World" in Giratina and the Sky Warrior, then you will understand what I mean xD

Ehehehe.

BroskiRage October 18th, 2012 4:48 PM

would be cool to find them but i dont think there in there

Legobricks October 19th, 2012 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7374321)
I would assume because all the trainer sprites are animated. Why animate all but two?

...

Oh, are they seen by the BW2 player when battling a BW player? If so I mistook the matter.

pokehearts October 20th, 2012 8:29 AM

MY Theory: Hilda is in hiding, so she settles down in accumula town, meets a nice guy (Hilbert?) and has a child. To Sum it up: Hilda is Nate/Rosa's Mother.

SnowpointQuincy October 20th, 2012 10:31 AM

Actually, Nate's Mom is a former Nurse* who worked at a Pokemon Center when Hilbert's Mom was a trainer. The two of them are friends and Hilbet's Mom recognizes you when you go to Nuvema Town in BW2.

*She only says she "worked there", not that she was a nurse.

Altairis October 20th, 2012 10:18 PM

I don't think they showed up because there was the option of Memory Link, and it would be weird if you saw Hilbert in game, but then memory link'd and had people talking about Gary Stu, who looked just like Hilbert. Plus, when you chose a boy, the boy character never showed up, but instead the girl did. So it would create kind of a paradox when you did the Memory Link for when you were a girl, and then saw Hilda around Unova.

Did that make any sense? lmao

Ice Car October 20th, 2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokehearts (Post 7378978)
MY Theory: Hilda is in hiding, so she settles down in accumula town, meets a nice guy (Hilbert?) and has a child. To Sum it up: Hilda is Nate/Rosa's Mother.

Wut. No, seriously, wut.

That makes no sense considering only 3 years passed between BW1 and BW2, and that Nate and Rosa already have mothers. The protagonists from the first game are way too young to have had a child...

Satoshi Ookami October 21st, 2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokehearts (Post 7378978)
MY Theory: Hilda is in hiding, so she settles down in accumula town, meets a nice guy (Hilbert?) and has a child. To Sum it up: Hilda is Nate/Rosa's Mother.

Yeeeeeaaaaaah, suuuuure. And your protagonist is 2 years old, well played.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Car (Post 7379850)
Wut. No, seriously, wut.

That makes no sense considering only 3 years passed between BW1 and BW2, and that Nate and Rosa already have mothers. The protagonists from the first game are way too young to have had a child...

Actually only 2 years =)

Twilight-kun October 21st, 2012 1:04 AM

Touko/Touya went looking for N

N is looking for them to say "Thank You"

that's it

for all we know, Game Freak will never answer that and let us imagine it, which is something they've previously employed to make the Pokemon world that much more interesting

Aera October 22nd, 2012 6:48 PM

There's a good headcanon for this. (Although it might only work for Hilda's case, but the latter works either way depending on your point of view).

Tyrantrum October 22nd, 2012 6:52 PM

I was honestly hoping they would appear in the game at some point - possibly post-game; and the one that would appear would depend on the protagonist that you chose. Like, if you play as Nate then Hilbert would appear and vice versa.

Ice Car October 22nd, 2012 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aera (Post 7382340)
There's a good headcanon for this. (Although it might only work for Hilda's case, but the latter works either way depending on your point of view).

Any tl;dr? I skipped to the end and it seemed like some cheesy story completely made up by the author.

Tyrantrum October 22nd, 2012 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Car (Post 7382357)
Any tl;dr? I skipped to the end and it seemed like some cheesy story completely made up by the author.

That's why it's called "headcanon."

rizoph October 22nd, 2012 7:18 PM

I think that they are also traveling around. There are so many places to be, how can you find them? Iono, maybe they just left the region to get more badges.

Nes-One November 3rd, 2012 8:16 AM

It's too ironic that they're looking for N and N is looking for them.

White 2: 3010 6243 2410

Correspondence November 3rd, 2012 11:07 AM

They're probably in some other region doing Arceus knows what but we will never know.

Harmonie November 3rd, 2012 2:02 PM

It's disappointing they aren't there. However, if they had decided to add a post-game battle, I'm fairly convinced that they only would have implemented Hilbert (and not Hilda) and it would have ticked me off, so I'll leave it at that.

Ammako November 3rd, 2012 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eпvy (Post 7395849)
However, if they had decided to add a post-game battle, I'm fairly convinced that they only would have implemented Hilbert (and not Hilda) and it would have ticked me off, so I'll leave it at that.

That sounds fairly improbable, considering Memory Link.

SnowpointQuincy November 3rd, 2012 10:48 PM

Memory Link could have taken your first "game clear" team. Those things are still record on the PC, right?

There would be like a 50/50 chance of your first game clear team being one of the dragons.

Set the levels to 100. (considering Black Tower gets your levels SO high.)

Nearsighted king of Ice November 4th, 2012 3:35 AM

They're travelling across the land, searching far and wide for N... who ironically is in the Unova region.

I'd kinda like it if they would allow you battle Hilbert/Hilda just like how you can battle Red in G/S/C/HG/SS

alisaie November 5th, 2012 3:34 AM

It would have been nice if they used the Memory Link to implement Hilda/Hilbert. They could take a team from the Hall of Fame or something and then have them use the team somewhere. Perhaps in the PWT or some other place. Even in some remote place with the levels that were in your other games last hall of fame would have been neat.

Affliction November 10th, 2012 12:59 PM

Their sprites were molested into the game by a certain Glitch Pokémon (You know who - That famous Glitch from Generation I).

Let's be serious now, Hilbert/Hilda is looking for N, and N is looking for Hilbert/Hilda, as said before.

Time to think about it. Below is a silly theory and very illogical.

Red was on Mount Silver.
Then, Ethan/Kris beat Red and Red got out of Mount Silver.
So now Ethan/Kris was on Mount Silver.
Then, as soon as Brendan/May finished, they just, I don't know, VANISHED or something?!?!
But after Lucas/Dawn finished too, they could have even went to Stark Mountain, Spear Pillar, or vanished themselves too.
Hilbert and Hilda came across Mount Silver while searching for N. They lost a Double Battle against Red and Ethan/Kris. So then they whited out, and then it would be unknown where they (Hilda + Hilbert) were.

Zayphora November 10th, 2012 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umbr30n (Post 7404999)
Their sprites were molested into the game by a certain Glitch Pokémon (You know who - That famous Glitch from Generation I).

Let's be serious now, Hilbert/Hilda is looking for N, and N is looking for Hilbert/Hilda, as said before.

Time to think about it. Below is a silly theory and very illogical.

Red was on Mount Silver.
Then, Ethan/Kris beat Red and Red got out of Mount Silver.
So now Ethan/Kris was on Mount Silver.
Then, as soon as Brendan/May finished, they just, I don't know, VANISHED or something?!?!
But after Lucas/Dawn finished too, they could have even went to Stark Mountain, Spear Pillar, or vanished themselves too.
Hilbert and Hilda came across Mount Silver while searching for N. They lost a Double Battle against Red and Ethan/Kris. So then they whited out, and then it would be unknown where they (Hilda + Hilbert) were.

Red and Gold used the power of GHOST to kill them. 'Nuff said.

ChaosZX November 15th, 2012 8:54 PM

Hilbert is in hiding because he got the Clerk ♀ pregnant in the ferris wheel.

overmind June 3rd, 2013 2:03 PM

I haven't completed BW2 yet because I'm reading too much FF, but from what I can tell from the Memory Link, I'm thinking that Hilda and Hilbert lost there memory and their pokemon or something like that and they moved to Aspertia Town with new indentities. That would kind of make sense.

Jellicent♀ June 3rd, 2013 4:18 PM

Sorry hun, but it's against the Fifth Generation rules to revive a thread that has not been posted in for over a month. As such, I will be closing this now.


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