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Mullet January 30th, 2005 3:25 PM

Catapult Launch! (YGO)
 
As a request form MasterSimon I have made this thread. For the Last Will one turn win deck.

Trubite Monsters:1
Jinzo

Level 4 and lower Monsters:16
Cannon Soliderx3
Catapult Turtlex3}The three main monsters in the deck.
Magical Scientist
Magican of Faithx2
Night Assilantx2
Spirit Reaperx3
Fiber Jar
Giant Germx3

Magics:15
Last Willx3}The main magic card in the deck.
Pot of Greed
Scapegoatsx2
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forcefull Sentry
Wave-Motion CannonX2
MST
Change of Heart
Premature Burial/Hammer Shot/Fissure
Heavy Storm
Posion of the Old Man

Traps:9
Solem Wishesx2
Wabokux3
Call of the Haunted/Bottomless Trap Hole
Sakaretsu Armorx3

Just a little fun deck I threw together in a few minutes, rate and fix.
:D

Pogiforce-14 January 30th, 2005 3:39 PM

I don't see how this deck can even claim one turn win if there are no Legendary oceans in it, which would make Catapult turtle summonable on the first turn. :\

MasterSimon January 30th, 2005 3:42 PM

nothing liek mine O.o

here is kinda how i would do it...

Monsters: 10
Dark Magician of Chaos x1
Gilasaurus x3
Catapult Turtle x3
Cannon Solider x2
Magical Scientist x1

Spells:
Terraforming x3
Spell Reproduction x3
Serial Spell x3
Monster Reincarnation x3
Monster Gate x3
Reload x3
Last Will x3
Reasoning x3
A Legendary Ocean x2
Card Destruction x1
Pot of Greed x1
Premature Burial x1
Painful Choice x1

Fusion Deck: 33
Dark Blade the Dragon Knight x3
Dark Flare Knight x3
Sanwitch x3
Roaring Ocean Snake x3
Empress Judge x3
Punisher Eagle x3
DarkBatter The Terrible x3
Ryu Senshi x3
Reaper on the Nightmare x3
Ojama King x3
Thousand-Eyes Restrict x3

Side Deck: 15
Jinzo x1
Beserk Gorilla x3
Posion of the Old Man x3
Giant Trunade x2
Metamorphosis x2
Heavy Storm x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Swords of Revealing Light x1
The Forcefull Sentry x1

Mullet January 30th, 2005 3:45 PM

This will work, it doesn't need the Oceans.

Poji you don't think, the Last Wills will summon the Turtle, and the Scientist.

Pogiforce-14 January 30th, 2005 3:47 PM

now I have to admit, Simon's looks like it woudl get the job done better tahn Mullet's. Especially with the terraforming to get the legendary ocean needed to make Turtle the one turn summon.

Though the fact it's lacking all traps may make it less difficult than first impressions dictate. He'd have to count on getting it in the first few turns or he'd be doomed.

but to have last will do that, mullet, you'd hae to get rid of your own monsters before turtle is even on the field. In the same turn. With that in mind, terraforming for ocean is much easier and more dependable than your last will strategy. If anything, the last will should be done after Turtle is on the field, so that you get more launch power as a result of using turtle's effect.

Mullet January 30th, 2005 4:14 PM

Trust me it will work, Ocean is not needed, all that is needed is the Turtle, and Scientist, as long as one space is left open you can still launch fusions. He doesn't have enough monsters. A G-Bind would help too, or a Level-Limit Area B.

Simon, Ryu Senshi is better choice than some of the fusions you put in the fusion deck.

MasterSimon January 30th, 2005 4:19 PM

i have Ryu Senshi in that fix but anything with over 2000 atk will help u considering when it gets launched they will take more than you toke...i have seen ftk decks with less monsters work...mine is build to win your 1st or 2nd turn with a side deck that can possible drag the duel out longer if needed...any stall should help the game shoudl be over before it would be needed...

Mullet January 30th, 2005 4:32 PM

He can attack if you need him too.

Pogiforce-14 January 30th, 2005 4:34 PM

Trust you my foot. Ocean is needed because if you want turtle out soon enough without having to tribute, that is what it's there for.

Last will can't get it out anyway. Last will only gets earth monsters, and if I recall, CT is a water.

MasterSimon January 30th, 2005 4:37 PM

i don't get it wat r we arguring about?
any of those cards in the fusion deck could atk if needed O.o
sept for Ojama and TIV but they r used for a dif reason...

Dark Blade the Dragon Knight x3
Dark Flare Knight x3
Sanwitch x3
Roaring Ocean Snake x3
Empress Judge x3
Punisher Eagle x3

those would be the only ones you would need for an FTK version the others r have effects that would maek them useful i other situations that this deck should rarely be getting into >.<

and Last Will works on any monster with less then 1500 atk(spet for monsters that need special requiremnts such as ritual monsters)

Mullet January 30th, 2005 4:40 PM

It gets out any monster that is 1500 or less attack points, so it can get the Scientist, and the Turtle.

Mother Grizzly will also work to get the Turtle out.

Pogiforce-14 January 30th, 2005 4:42 PM

What the heck does FTK mean anyway? You're the only person I've ever seen use it.

as for Last will, I'm thinking of Giant rat then. Still, it would mean you would have to already have a launcher on the field to depend on Last will to get you your turtle. and if that is the case, then what is the point?

MasterSimon January 30th, 2005 4:45 PM

FTK stands for First Turn Kill

turtle will do more damage than Solider wich is the launcher u would use with last will to get Scientist or Turtle or you can use Monster Gate on a special summoned Gilasaurus and combine with last will as well

Pogiforce-14 January 30th, 2005 4:47 PM

You know what? I'm tired of arguing with you two. Let's just say to each his own. You ahve your style, I have mine. I nkow mine works, and you say yours works. I wouldn't know yours, because I never tried it, and you wouldn't knwo mine because you ahven't tried it. So let's just leave it at that and drop it because I'm getting tired of arguing this.

Orochi Breakwing February 2nd, 2005 6:28 PM

WOAH...

I agree with Pogi!? lol, jk bro.

Mullet's construct < MasterSimon's. The Oceans make the FTK WAY easier. And I hadnt thought of using Serial Spells.

Also,what the he-double-hockey sticks are you DOING with FLIP EFFECTS in a OTK. Thats what DMOCis for. The FTK LOST power once DMOC was restricted, but 1 makes for enough magic revival. PLUS. If youre going on the first turn, you cant attack anyway, and thats what this deck is for. Ryu Senshi is unnecessary.

Imstill waiting for like...Crimson Sumbird. Or Great Mammoth of Goldfine. Those have not effect and are 2300 and 2200 respectively. That causes a OTK Magical Scientist, Dark Flare Knight, and Mirage Knight combo. Fun fun fun.

Vagabond Aeon February 3rd, 2005 5:17 AM

I remember someone who had an Warrior deck that could OTK. The key card? Oddly enough, Exiled Force. Apparently, you tribute it to destroy itself, throw down your Last Wills, and get Scientist and Turtle out. Then it was just wham-bam-thank-you ma'am until you died.

I wonder... is that legal?

Orochi Breakwing February 3rd, 2005 4:49 PM

Perfectly cheap and perfectly legal, Im afraid. I cant say that I wouldve expected that.

Mullet February 3rd, 2005 4:59 PM

You people don't think, you might not get all the right cards, MS's deck would fall if he didn't get the combo on the first turn, mine is just in case I don't, you need to have a back up plan! :D

MasterSimon February 5th, 2005 8:14 AM

no i tried the deck so far i won every time i went first and about half the time i went 2nd but a change in the side deck will make me win every time ^_^
no just in case about it =/

Orochi Breakwing February 5th, 2005 9:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
You people don't think, you might not get all the right cards, MS's deck would fall if he didn't get the combo on the first turn, mine is just in case I don't, you need to have a back up plan! :D

No. You dont think. And you need to change your little custom title, too...
Obviously, youre not the master...


The Catapult-Scientist FTK deck has a 90% win rate. 90. Freakin. Percent. If your FTK deck needs a backup plan, its not a FTK deck, its a hopeless cause. Your FTK deck hopes it pulls the combo on turn one, and if it doesent, it falls apart (I tried it on YVD a few times. Bleh...) I used mine. (mine's a bit different from Simon's). Won every time I played.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why I dont like this deck...O_o...no fun..

T-Master February 7th, 2005 9:19 PM

Monsters
3 Gilasaurus
3 Spirit Reaper
1 Breaker
1 Magical Scientist
3 Mystic Tomato
3 Mother Grizzly
3 Catapult Turtle
1 Cyber Jar
1 Morphing Jar #2

Spells
1 Change of Heart
2 Reload
1 Pot of Greed
1 Heavy Storm
1 Forceful Sentry
1 Mirage of Nightmare
1 Legendary Ocean
2 Last Will
3 Poison of the Old Man

Traps
3 Dark Coffin
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Magic Cylinder
1 Jar of Greed
1 Reckless Greed

Fusion
3 Dark Flare Knight
3 Punished Eagle
3 Empress Judge
3 Dark Blade the Dragon Knight
3 Sanwitch
1 Thousand-Eyes Restrict

I added some cards just to make it 40.

MasterSimon February 10th, 2005 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vagabond Aeon
I remember someone who had an Warrior deck that could OTK. The key card? Oddly enough, Exiled Force. Apparently, you tribute it to destroy itself, throw down your Last Wills, and get Scientist and Turtle out. Then it was just wham-bam-thank-you ma'am until you died.

I wonder... is that legal?

though the title is old i am sorry to tell u ur friends combo is actualy not legal...seeing as You cannot activate the effect of Exiled Force if it is the only monster on the field...but if other cards r on the field u can >.<

Orochi Breakwing February 10th, 2005 8:13 PM

Holy- I said that was legal? I need to read more carefully....

I thought you meant pop some random poor soul for Exiled's effect. You cant pop a Exiled that you tributed, seeing as how its not on the field to resolve and pop himself..

Vagabond Aeon February 11th, 2005 10:33 AM

I was suspicious of that combo's legality, but seeing as how I was still relatively new at the time...

Oh well, it's after the fact. Can't really do anything about it.

Which reminds me, I gotta check up on an offer for Level 1 judge status I got...

Pogiforce-14 February 11th, 2005 2:14 PM

Judge? For Yugioh? :\ How do you even apply to be a judge?

Vagabond Aeon February 11th, 2005 5:38 PM

Through UDE I believe...

Simply put, a local gaming shop needs a YGO judge so they can hold higher-level tourneys like regionals and such. The guy who runs the place emailed someone at UDE about me taking the judge test, but he hasn't heard anything about it.

Mullet February 19th, 2005 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orochi Breakwing
No. You dont think. And you need to change your little custom title, too...
Obviously, youre not the master...


The Catapult-Scientist FTK deck has a 90% win rate. 90. Freakin. Percent. If your FTK deck needs a backup plan, its not a FTK deck, its a hopeless cause. Your FTK deck hopes it pulls the combo on turn one, and if it doesent, it falls apart (I tried it on YVD a few times. Bleh...) I used mine. (mine's a bit different from Simon's). Won every time I played.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why I dont like this deck...O_o...no fun..

Accually do need a backup plan, just because it has one, doesn't mean it's not a FTK deck, evidently you don't get it, if we dueled, then you would see the accuracy of my title. :D

Orochi Breakwing February 19th, 2005 5:32 PM

I quote Vagabond Aeon on this one:
MACHO POSTURING ON THE INTERNET!


If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "I am the YGO master" I'd have enough to fill an olympic-sized swimming pool...I'd love to play you first time I get a chance, so we can ram our heads together like mountain goats.


The only real backup plan that I would put in a scientist-turtle FTK deck is a ocean beatface thing. But then its more waterdeck than scientistkill.

Mullet February 20th, 2005 9:21 AM

Well, at least around here I'm one of the best, I'd accually like to play people from other areas, I'll admit that I have heard people say that there the best, and they want to duel, in YGO, and DM, and I beat them, and it is quite annoying, but my title is pretty accurate.

Where do you live, if we don't live close to each other, then there is a program that we can use to duel online.

You seem to forget, if you don't have a backup plan, and you don't get the FTK out, then you more than likely screwed.

Orochi Breakwing February 21st, 2005 6:28 PM

I live in florida, and I have the dueling program Yu-Gi-Oh Virtual Desktop.


AIM duels are for people that trust complete strangers...

I built a water deck with the OTK as the backup plan, and its ten times more fun that way...

MasterSimon February 21st, 2005 6:45 PM

i have Yu-Gi-Oh Virtual Desktop as well...

but on the FTK note...the MS FTK had a backup plan...same plan as the FTK only a turn into the game :P it is still effective a few turns into the game as long as u have the life(i have since made a better version than the oen i posted that wokrs very well)

Mullet February 22nd, 2005 1:49 PM

Is it free? If so where can I download it?

Vagabond Aeon February 23rd, 2005 7:53 AM

www.xerocreative.com

If you want, I can provide you with a link to image files/updated card information files. I just have to find it first.

Mullet February 23rd, 2005 4:22 PM

How much space does it take up?

Vagabond Aeon February 23rd, 2005 5:43 PM

6.3 megs. You need anymore information, or what?

Mullet February 23rd, 2005 6:28 PM

Thanks, I downloaded it, and made a deck, but I need someones IP to duel, at least that's what I got from what the program told me. How do you duel?

Vagabond Aeon February 24th, 2005 10:33 AM

Contact me over AIM at "Vagabond Aeon" later and I'll help you out.

Don't bother asking me for a duel though, I'm gonna be busy reworking my decks for the new banlist and testing them with Orochi.

Mullet February 24th, 2005 2:37 PM

I don't have, and can't get instant messager. I put it to Advanced Format, but it still let me put the banned cards in my deck. Help me over PM.

Orochi Breakwing February 24th, 2005 6:46 PM

even though its off topic...and this convo has been lately...

Sets and images are found at www.dmtcg.com

Mullet February 25th, 2005 3:36 PM

Well it kind of drifted off topic, why don't we get back on it.


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