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EmbC July 21st, 2013 9:51 AM

OMG that happened with me too, but with an Uxie. Lol, the trick is to never give up.

BTW, guys, I've been trying to forget about the incident with my friend and my Black 1 by competing with the VGC format and finishing my White 1.

I've already RNG'd a flawless Zekrom with Naughty nature at the first try and a flawless jolly Ditto for my breeds. Too bad I don't have access to internet compatible to my DS, so I could know my SID, but, as soon as I get home, I should get it.

tabor62 July 21st, 2013 11:48 PM

Today's haul (guess RNGing in another language gave me some motivation haha):

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/58.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #58 ガーディ (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Flash Fire - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Roar - Flare Blitz - Close Combat - Wild Charge

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/81.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #81 コイル (LV 1) http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Timid - Magnet Pull - 31/30/31/30/31/30 - Untouched
Substitute - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power - Flash Cannon

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/129.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #129 コイキング (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Swift Swim - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Splash

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/183.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #183 マリル (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Huge Power - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Tackle - Aqua Jet - Waterfall - Substitute

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/228.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #228 デルビル (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Timid - Flash Fire - 31/31/30/30/31/31 - Untouched
Ember - Flamethrower - Hidden Power - Fire Blast

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/315.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #315 ロゼリア (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Timid - Natural Cure - 31/30/31/30/31/30 - Untouched
Leaf Storm - Sleep Powder - Sludge Bomb - Hidden Power

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/359.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #359 アブソル (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Super Luck - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Scratch - Feint - Zen Headbutt - X-Scissor

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/425.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #425 フワンテ (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Unbruden - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Destiny Bond - Substitute - Acrobatics - Will-O-Wisp

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/459.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #459 ユキカブリ (LV 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/67/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Tabor https://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/1.png ID: 00062
Adamant - Snow Warning - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untouched
Leer - Seed Bomb - Leech Seed - Protect

Gonzo July 22nd, 2013 12:58 AM

Nice abuses, except my heart aches for all but marill, absol and drifloon because you can catch them with nice balls and keep their moves *u*


Didn't you abuse the same seed like... 5 times? XD

tabor62 July 22nd, 2013 8:50 AM

Yes I did, lazy y'know. I'm going through and finding everything that's good Adamant with the Ability 1 that doesn't need a Hidden Power. Saves a lot of time y'know o 3o I'll start doing captures after I get my emblem and then beat the game.

BUKKØW July 22nd, 2013 3:50 PM

Does anyone know how to RNG Shaking grass, surf spots/fish spots(dark circle)?

Thanks

Gonzo July 22nd, 2013 10:36 PM

1. find a place with no NPC (it's a must).
2. find a narrow patch (1 or two tiles) of grass, a piece of land without grass near narrow piece of water or a cave without NPCs.
3. hit your seed (each of these encounters have their own method) and verify it with Chatot flips.
4. Start walking to see if you can activate shaking spot before you reach 128 steps. If yes, stand in front of it, advance remaining frames using chatot flips and walk/surf into the spot. Doing this advances 1 frame, so be sure to stop advancing one before your desired frame. If not, repeat step 3 and add one chatot flip while verifying the frame. Rinse and repeat about 5-6 times. If it doesn't help, find another seed.

Troubleshooting:
1. In cave, you have to count all your steps as each step advances your PIDRNG frame by 2 and each turn does exactly the same thing. (DAT REPEL) The target frame should be high for shiny, so you won't miss it by walking around the cave.
2. Making 128 steps will advance your IVRNG by X where X = number of pokemon in your party. This means the desired IVs will change, so you might want to find a seed for the frame equal to number of your party members + 1 so you can gain additional 128 steps.
3. The 128 step counter does not reset when you turn your game off. This means, that after just 1 step, the IV frame can change, so be careful or just find a seed for higher IV frame (equal to number of mons in party +1)

I hope it'll help!

Good luck, this kind of abuse is a pain in the neck, so you have to be really patient.

Omicron July 23rd, 2013 2:27 PM

What I've RNG'ed today :D (I'll edit it later and add more 'mons, I'm taking a break)


http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/102.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #102 Exeggcute ♀ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Timid - Chlorophyll - 31/31/31/30/31/30 - Untrained
Sleep Powder - Psychic - Energy Ball - Hidden Power (Water 70)

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/102.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #102 Exeggcute ♀ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Timid - Chlorophyll - 31/30/31/30/31/30 - Untrained
Sleep Powder - Psychic - Energy Ball - Hidden Power (Fire 70)

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/374.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #374 Beldum ♁ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Adamant - Clear Body - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Take Down - *** - *** - ***

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/50.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #50 Diglett ♀ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Jolly - Arena Trap - 31/31/31/7/31/31 - Untrained
Scratch - Sand-Attack - Reversal - Earthquake

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/140.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #140 Kabuto ♂ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Adamant - Swift Swim - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Scratch - Harden - Waterfall - ***

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/447.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #447 Riolu ♂ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Adamant - Prankster - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Quick Attack - Foresight - Endure - Hidden Power

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/447.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #447 Riolu ♂ (level 1) http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Timid - Prankster - 31/30/30/31/31/31 - Untrained
Quick Attack - Foresight - Endure - Hidden Power (Ice 70)

Cordelia July 23rd, 2013 4:31 PM

Nice work! Beldum is awesome... I've always been a fan of Shiny Metagross.

shayminskyforme88 July 26th, 2013 9:32 AM

My weekend RNG(For now)

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/498.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #498 Tepig ♀ (level 1) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Shawn ♂ (Black, 54164)
Adamant - Blaze - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Double Team - Flamethrower - Wild Charge - Flame Charge



http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/118.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #118 Goldeen ♂ (level 41) https://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/014.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Shawn ♂ (Black, 54164)
Calm - Swift Swim - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Aqua Ring - Fury Attack - Waterfall - Horn Drill

WingedDragon July 26th, 2013 3:44 PM

Is it possible to do tests outside the time frame?

Cordelia July 26th, 2013 3:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianD (Post 7754008)
Is it possible to do tests outside the time frame?

I'm sorry, I really don't understand what you're trying to ask. Can you be more specific please?

WingedDragon July 26th, 2013 4:10 PM

Is it possible to test to see if I RNG my pokes correctly. Outside the time constraints that the program gives me?

Cordelia July 26th, 2013 4:14 PM

The program gives you the time that you can get those Pokemon. If you go outside it, they won't be RNG'd.

shayminskyforme88 July 26th, 2013 8:42 PM

Is it possible to RNG Fished Pokemon in areas with NPCs?

Mackenzie July 27th, 2013 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shayminskyforme88 (Post 7754396)
Is it possible to RNG Fished Pokemon in areas with NPCs?

I believe so, albeit quite difficult as you need to take into account their movements, although for trainer npcs, using the vs seeker and battling them (if using gen 4) helps to avoid random npc advancements.
--

So hi guys, i'm fairly new to this thread, though i sometimes drop by to check on people's latest projects. I'm Mackenzie, but you may know me before as patrick_20052005. :''>

Anyway, I'm happy to share my rng'd pokemon in diamond :3


https://www.pokecheck.org/i/pks/419.pnghttps://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | https://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png | http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/66/Quick_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Colbie | ID: 00545
Jolly | Swift Swim
IVs: 30|31|31|30|31|31
Swift | Aqua Jet | Crunch | Agility
Location: Rt. 218
Availability: Lv.30, UT

Alternatively, you can check its legality analysis: here

shayminskyforme88 July 27th, 2013 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackenzie (Post 7754857)
I believe so, albeit quite difficult as you need to take into account their movements, although for trainer npcs, using the vs seeker and battling them (if using gen 4) helps to avoid random npc advancements.
--

So hi guys, i'm fairly new to this thread, though i sometimes drop by to check on people's latest projects. I'm Mackenzie, but you may know me before as patrick_20052005. :''>

Anyway, I'm happy to share my rng'd pokemon in diamond :3


https://www.pokecheck.org/i/pks/419.pnghttps://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | https://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png | http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/66/Quick_Ball_summary_IV.png
OT: Colbie | ID: 00545
Jolly | Swift Swim
IVs: 30|31|31|30|31|31
Swift | Aqua Jet | Crunch | Agility
Location: Rt. 218
Availability: Lv.30, UT

Alternatively, you can check its legality analysis: here

Thanks for the info although I RNG on Gen V. Nice that you are able to RNG on Gen IV, I can't seem to . :P
Update: Finally captured it after it struggled last week, I decided to Synch it with another nature though.


http://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/377.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png #377 Regirock ♁ (level 65) http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/87/Bag_Luxury_Ball_Sprite.png
OT: http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/2.png Shawn ♂ (Black 2, 00000)
Impish - Clear Body - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Iron Defense - Charge Beam - Lock On - Zap Cannon

Cordelia July 28th, 2013 5:35 AM

Nice RNG! Keep it up. My newest (and yes, I know it'd be cooler if I captured it in Hidden Grotto in B2W2 but I wanted it German).

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/214.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Skaraborn ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Toph http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/5.png | ID: 9
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Moxie
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 17, 31, 31 Dark 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Horn Attack, Endure, Pursuit, Double Team
Non-Redis

Omicron July 28th, 2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac (Post 7756404)
Nice RNG! Keep it up. My newest (and yes, I know it'd be cooler if I captured it in Hidden Grotto in B2W2 but I wanted it German).

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/214.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Skaraborn ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Toph http://www.pokecheck.org/i/lang/5.png | ID: 9
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Moxie
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 17, 31, 31 Dark 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Horn Attack, Endure, Pursuit, Double Team
Non-Redis

It is amazing Mac! I love it's German name, by the way.

WingedDragon July 28th, 2013 10:31 AM

Are two chatots required or is it just easier with two

Tyrael July 28th, 2013 11:07 AM

A lot easier with two, allows you to advance to your desired frame a lot easier.

WingedDragon July 28th, 2013 11:53 AM

For RNGing an egg which seed do I set it at? Two where do I find such settings for eggs? Also If I am understanding this correctly for the IVs does it have to have a parent with 31 in desired IVs? What if the Desired IV is 0

retinaburn July 28th, 2013 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdrianD (Post 7756748)
For RNGing an egg which seed do I set it at? Two where do I find such settings for eggs? Also If I am understanding this correctly for the IVs does it have to have a parent with 31 in desired IVs? What if the Desired IV is 0

Once you generate your list of seeds... the results will vary according to your desired outcome. IE. looking for flawless shinies will result in far less seed results to choose from.

Per the Art of RNG guide on first page... refer to the hatching flawless shinies section. Step 5 illustrates seed results that you can choose from. Choose the one that you think you can best achieve, with the desired outcomes you are looking for. Depending on what you've searched for you may see different results for nature shiny/non shiny, IVs, ability, etc. I like to choose a seed at a second of somewhere between 15-25 seconds, that way I am not sitting around for minutes at a time in case I miss my seed and have to retry.

You do not need parents with 31 in desired IVs.... but if you are going for flawless or near flawless parents, the probability and resulting seed list will be greater if you have flawless parents.

WingedDragon July 28th, 2013 2:47 PM

I am setting up my profile I believe

OK i am looking for my actual seconds for my 3ds. It says I should load my game 8 seconds before time im targeting. I did that. I did the search it says actual seconds is 25. I started my game at 17 seconds. Now the instructions are stating that I need to find the search time 8 seconds AFTER my targer time. Which would be 33 seconds. Did I do this correctly or did I miss something.

This is what I see.

http://i44.*.com/2gulk7n.jpg

retinaburn July 28th, 2013 4:12 PM

Ya, that looks about right. Because you're on Black 2, you'll have a range of Timer0's. So you'll want to do that as many times as you're comfortable to find your particular range of timer0's. You could have a range of around 4 common timer0's that your set up will commonly hit.

Melinda July 28th, 2013 4:45 PM

I'm jealous of everyone's RNGs. My KR RNG still isn't working right. :|


/cry


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