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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 13th, 2013 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7535149)
A third legendary being bug? Hmm kind of doubting the psychic for Xerneas now given that it'd make bug more likely as you said and idt it'd be the best typing for a third legendary.

Well if Xerneas is Psychic/Steel it shouldn't be as concerned, same goes for Yvetal as it has flying type which is strong against bugs. Though if the third one were to be bug...it could be Bug/Dragon if based on a serpent...a serpentine insect oh the horror!

Garoucher February 14th, 2013 3:08 PM

Yveltal is so badass, one of the best legendary Pokémon in terms of design.
But I really don't care a lot about Xerneas, is just an adult Bambi.

HeroesAndCons February 14th, 2013 3:50 PM

I never thought any Pokemon would have a cooler design than my precious Lugia, but Yveltal sure is a damn fine piece of ass.

Ho-Oh February 14th, 2013 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7537158)
Well if Xerneas is Psychic/Steel it shouldn't be as concerned, same goes for Yvetal as it has flying type which is strong against bugs. Though if the third one were to be bug...it could be Bug/Dragon if based on a serpent...a serpentine insect oh the horror!

I... think if that were to happen it'd be creepy looking. :( Like while I'm okay with bug mons, when you put it together with a serpent I think it'd just creep me out lmao. I'd rather leave Yveltal/Xerneas as whatever typing they are, and then for the third to be something simple to tie them in and not necessarily related to typing, thinking about it.

Scripturient February 14th, 2013 11:36 PM

I love the design for both legendaries honestly. But I must say, I prefer Yveltal.

shengar February 15th, 2013 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonygooseD (Post 7533229)
I started detesting legendaries because they increase in number everytime a new generation comes out, also why are they like Gods?
For example imagine yourself catching Dialga, you'll think that you just caught the God of time! But can you actually control time now? No.
I wouldn't mind controlling time myself though, if that was available in X & Y ;).

But seriously, enough legendaries.

Well, I though I agree with what you said there being too many and more legendaries we tend to have each new Generation comes out, these two legendary are the mascot version. There is no need bring this until new lengedaries ( I suspect there will be 4 trio with one of them have fourth member, 3 singular, and one pair of legendary) announced.

I already like Xerneas thanks to bloody good artist of Pixiv who draw it as they come out

Sadly there is yet any Yvertal fan art worth mention :(

Miss Doronjo February 15th, 2013 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonygooseD (Post 7533229)
I started detesting legendaries because they increase in number everytime a new generation comes out, also why are they like Gods?
For example imagine yourself catching Dialga, you'll think that you just caught the God of time! But can you actually control time now? No.
I wouldn't mind controlling time myself though, if that was available in X & Y ;).

But seriously, enough legendaries.

I understand that, and I respect that your opinion, and I even agree with you on some points, but, honestly? Arceus, Dialga and Palkia are only cannon towards the D/P/PL game arc. I don't think they will touch upon this new region of pokemon very much. Even if we did see the "god" of all the pokemon, I'm pretty sure there was more questions than answers to the world of pokemon, hence why we're introduced with these two legendaries already. I mean, consider this: Dialga and Palka represented time and space respectively. However, they don't represent things like the microscopic universe or more biology matters like anatomies or how pokemon generally feels -- which questions may pop up like, "why are they so submissive?" Which, I believe Yuvental and Xerneas has to offer possible answers for that, or maybe raise more questions. Who knows until we actually know what they represent.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 15th, 2013 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7539837)
I understand that, and I respect that your opinion, and I even agree with you on some points, but, honestly? Arceus, Dialga and Palkia are only cannon towards the D/P/PL game arc. I don't think they will touch upon this new region of pokemon very much. Even if we did see the "god" of all the pokemon, I'm pretty sure there was more questions than answers to the world of pokemon, hence why we're introduced with these two legendaries already. I mean, consider this: Dialga and Palka represented time and space respectively. However, they don't represent things like the microscopic universe or more biology matters like anatomies or how pokemon generally feels -- which questions may pop up like, "why are they so submissive?" Which, I believe Yuvental and Xerneas has to offer possible answers for that, or maybe raise more questions. Who knows until we actually know what they represent.

I felt like Generation V explored some of the submissive question, though it didn't do as well a job as it could've though perhaps that's because there's many reasons for it.

I stil wonder what these legends will represent, hopefully we can get some kind of hint from the typing if it's closely linked like how the Weather trio, Palkia (space is often discribed as a ocean), and Giratina (antimatter is invisible and so are ghosts) are with their typings.

C4RT3RTV February 23rd, 2013 5:52 PM

From the pictures so far, Xerneas looks like a Psychic/Steel type while Yveltal looks like a Dark/Flying type or Dark/Dragon type. Either way, there designs look pretty cool.

Nothing Is Real February 23rd, 2013 7:04 PM

I think Xerneas looks more like a Grass/Psychic, whilst Yveltal does indeed look like a Dark/Flying. As much as I want this to be true, it would mean that Yveltal has a huge type advantage over Xerneas.

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2013 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing Is Real (Post 7551757)
I think Xerneas looks more like a Grass/Psychic, whilst Yveltal does indeed look like a Dark/Flying. As much as I want this to be true, it would mean that Yveltal has a huge type advantage over Xerneas.

Having an advantage isn't bad, because what if their differences were that one was defensive and the other offensive? Meaning that Yveltal would actually be defensive!

Nothing Is Real February 24th, 2013 5:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7551863)
Having an advantage isn't bad, because what if their differences were that one was defensive and the other offensive? Meaning that Yveltal would actually be defensive!

That's true. Although, I picture Yveltal as more of an offensive Pokemon and Xerneas as the defensive (I'm only basing that on their appearance, though).

Archeops12354 February 24th, 2013 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7539351)
I... think if that were to happen it'd be creepy looking. :( Like while I'm okay with bug mons, when you put it together with a serpent I think it'd just creep me out lmao. I'd rather leave Yveltal/Xerneas as whatever typing they are, and then for the third to be something simple to tie them in and not necessarily related to typing, thinking about it.

If they are going to make a bug/dragon type, make it a basilisk like creature. (I don't know how to post pictures on this thread, so I'll show you how I found it) Go on google images, type in basilisk, near the top there should be a sculpture someone made of a basilisk and that is what I think it should look like. A dragon with an insect-y essence to it.
Awesome.
In-fact, I'm gonna put it in my signature

Ho-Oh February 24th, 2013 8:38 AM

@ Archeops: Just use the http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/editor/insertimage.gif (at the top of the posting box) and right click the image you want to add, then copy the "copy image URL" into the thread, for the future!

Also @ Derk, slower weather starter puts up sun, weakens water spout, gg.

(actually idk if it can, but ya)

Nevertheless, I dunno, I just picture Xerneas as more offensive because it's skinnier and seems more like Virizion, etc. :x Yveltal just reminds me of Mandibuzz, thus defensive comes into mind there.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 24th, 2013 9:04 AM

Giratina's a Basilisk btw.
If they do a Bug/Dragon I imagine it to look something like Grima from Fire Emblem Awakening, that thing looks quite bug like for a Dragon.

Perhaps neither of them will have a type advantage over the other unlike Charzard versus Venusaur (or Blastoise over Charzard), and Kyogre over Groudon. I believe they left it out in Gen IV as neither space or time is better, and same with Yin and Yang which aren't enemies, those being interlinked while the starter mascots had the rivally going on, and water on earth exceeds the land. If that's why than I'll suggest they make them neutral against one another to prevent the unfortunate implication that X chromosome beats Y or vise versa. However if they do, than make X the stronger one...jk.

Ho-Oh February 24th, 2013 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7552583)
Giratina's a Basilisk btw.
If they do a Bug/Dragon I imagine it to look something like Grima from Fire Emblem Awakening, that thing looks quite bug like for a Dragon.

Perhaps neither of them will have a type advantage over the other unlike Charzard versus Venusaur (or Blastoise over Charzard), and Kyogre over Groudon. I believe they left it out in Gen IV as neither space or time is better, and same with Yin and Yang which aren't enemies, those being interlinked while the starter mascots had the rivally going on, and water on earth exceeds the land. If that's why than I'll suggest they make them neutral against one another to prevent the unfortunate implication that X chromosome beats Y or vise versa. However if they do, than make X the stronger one...jk.

Unless water beats the one that beats the other one!! Assuming that the third one is water, which would even up Yveltal being more powerful than Xerneas if that's the case~~

C4RT3RTV February 24th, 2013 7:01 PM

Xerneas indeed does have a resemblance to Virzion making you think it would possibly have identical stats to it but Xerneas might be more defensive with it's possibly unique typing.

Archeops12354 February 25th, 2013 2:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7552583)
Giratina's a Basilisk btw.
If they do a Bug/Dragon I imagine it to look something like Grima from Fire Emblem Awakening, that thing looks quite bug like for a Dragon.

Perhaps neither of them will have a type advantage over the other unlike Charzard versus Venusaur (or Blastoise over Charzard), and Kyogre over Groudon. I believe they left it out in Gen IV as neither space or time is better, and same with Yin and Yang which aren't enemies, those being interlinked while the starter mascots had the rivally going on, and water on earth exceeds the land. If that's why than I'll suggest they make them neutral against one another to prevent the unfortunate implication that X chromosome beats Y or vise versa. However if they do, than make X the stronger one...jk.

You're right, Grima would make a MUCH better Bug/Dragon type.

If Xerneas is Psychic/Steel and Yveltal is Dark/Flying, neither will have a type advantage. Steel has normal effectiveness against Yveltal and psychic has no effect, dark has normal effectiveness against Xerneas and flying is not very effective against it, so they are both balanced out.
Bug/Dragon could be a problem though, as flying type moves (Yveltal's type) are super effective against it, whereas bug and dragon do normal damage against Yveltal. Of course, they could balance this out by giving the Bug/Dragon a higher base stat total.

I should put up a picture of Grima so you all know what I'm talking about.


http://http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130120152503/fireemblem/images/f/fb/Grima1.jpg

I should put up a picture of Grima so you all know what I'm talking about. Sorry it's really big!!!!! ;) Zoom out to see the whole pic (control +)


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 25th, 2013 1:25 PM

Such a beautiful dragon indeed (no I'm not a Grimleaf...), a Bug/Dragon would give Giratina and Kyurem a run for their money.

You're right about Dragon being weak against Steel...though as you said they could give it a high BST like Rayquaza.

IvanSky07 February 27th, 2013 7:35 PM

I'm curious on what types are they, but I also have my own speculation.
As everyone says, I also think that Yveltal would be a Dark-Flying type.
And about Xerneas.. Um.. I think it would be a Fighting-Metal Type.

And I prefer Xerneas than Yveltal. :D

Jake♫ February 27th, 2013 7:47 PM

I feel like Yveltal might be a Flying/Psychic or Dragon/Psychic just based off of appearances, but it's appearance and color scheme sort of screams those types to me. I honestly have no idea of what types Xerneas might be. I'm not sure if it's just the shadows from the pictures, but it has a Dark-type appearance to it. Maybe dual-typed with Ground, Dark, or Grass?

Miss Doronjo February 27th, 2013 8:20 PM

I myself, wanna know what Xerneas and Yveltals abilities are going to be. Do you think Game Freak is just going to give them Pressure, or will they have new custom-fit abilities that match their theming, like what Reshiram and Zekrom got with their Mold Breaker knock off abilities?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 27th, 2013 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7557952)
I feel like Yveltal might be a Flying/Psychic or Dragon/Psychic just based off of appearances, but it's appearance and color scheme sort of screams those types to me. I honestly have no idea of what types Xerneas might be. I'm not sure if it's just the shadows from the pictures, but it has a Dark-type appearance to it. Maybe dual-typed with Ground, Dark, or Grass?

It is possible that Xerneas will be Dark seeing how the forest in Europe was connected with mystery, and death. Actually there's fairy tails that were made to keep children from going into the forest (think about how the people of Unova didn't approach the Giant Chasm due to the story, perhaps they'll do another one like that for Xerneas).

Perhaps it'll be Dark/Steel. Yvetal could be Psychic/Fire then.

Jake♫ February 27th, 2013 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7557993)
It is possible that Xerneas will be Dark seeing how the forest in Europe was connected with mystery, and death. Actually there's fairy tails that were made to keep children from going into the forest (think about how the people of Unova didn't approach the Giant Chasm due to the story, perhaps they'll do another one like that for Xerneas).

Perhaps it'll be Dark/Steel. Yvetal could be Psychic/Fire then.

That would definitely make sense for Xerneas. I had no idea that France had that sort of thing going for it, so Dark definitely makes sense. I'm not totally sold on the Steel typing though. And I feel like another Psychic/Fire legendary right after Victini would be redundant as well.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 27th, 2013 8:29 PM

Well Rock could work too as those horns look like of rock like to me tbh. Dark/Rock could work. Perhaps both legends will be part Dark. Xerneas Dark/Rock, and Yvetal is Dark/Flying.


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