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Ho-Oh March 21st, 2013 8:52 AM

Just steel would make like, 100% sense imo. I'd love to think it's a dual-typed Pokemon so it's creative but Steel makes SO MUCH SENSE because it outright doesn't fit into anything else. So yes, I'm for this!

Jake♫ March 21st, 2013 4:37 PM

I am so over having form-changing legendaries. It's gotten to the point where it's just being absued now. The Kami Trio didn't need them at all, and I don't think Keldeo did either, especially the change is so minor. Giving Kyurem it's forms I thought was just silly too. I mean I get it was the entire plot of the story, but I still didn't like it at all =P. Shaymin's at least made sense and was given backstory.

So no, I don't want Xerneas and Yveltal to change forms =P

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 21st, 2013 5:07 PM

Thus far only Gen 1 had a Duel and a single type mascot pair however that was for the International versions...so Japan has had them all match, I guess that point would make Xerneas less likely to be a pure type due to Yvetal's appearance as a duel type...unless they stray away and do another Gen 1 Int version. Or maybe Yvetal is Dark and has levitate as it's ability...it would be trolling of GF if that was true but than again Darkrai is pure Dark rather than Dark/Ghost, and Elektross isn't part water...

Ho-Oh March 21st, 2013 5:26 PM

Well if they were single types, Yveltal could be just dark. I mean, Darkrai is dark and can float, soooo.

antemortem March 21st, 2013 6:13 PM

I don't want either to change formes or types, either. I'm tired of this 'we as developers can't decide on types that will make us and the public happy, so we'll just make a new item/attack/ability that lets them change to x at will!' stuff we've been getting the past couple of generations. The alternate formes thing was enjoyable when it was a new concept but it's starting to get old, at least to me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 21st, 2013 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7591244)
For me personally, I suppose I don't mind alternate forms. Are they starting to get old? Possibly, but to me, there has to be a purpose behind those said forms. I mean, why was it necessary that the Kami trio needed one? I mean, I suppose they all were doing fine without them?

I just want them to all have a reason, is what I'm saying, and not being made just for the heck of it.

I think that generation V should've explained those forms better, as it makes sense as Gods have both human and animal forms in some myths. Also Generation IV/s were well explained, and so were generation III's with Castform's thing being adapting to the weather, and Deoxys to it's environment, and Giratina having different formes between realms as Anti-matter would explode in this realm...so I saw it as it turning to a forme more suitable for this world.

Anyways on topic, I would like it if the two legends were masters like Gen II's mascots.

Ho-Oh March 22nd, 2013 8:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Antemortem (Post 7591229)
I don't want either to change formes or types, either. I'm tired of this 'we as developers can't decide on types that will make us and the public happy, so we'll just make a new item/attack/ability that lets them change to x at will!' stuff we've been getting the past couple of generations. The alternate formes thing was enjoyable when it was a new concept but it's starting to get old, at least to me.

It would give the games longevity though, as they can release forme events, etc, and GF likes that, so mascot formes isn't completely out of the picture.

Jake♫ March 22nd, 2013 11:06 AM

It doesn't really increase longevity though. It releases a new form. That's it. It doesn't add anything new for the games itself other than a new form. There's no new gameplay, nothing exciting. Plus, if Unova was any indication we're not going to get any backstory for new forms, other than maybe a three minute explanation. I'd rather be given some sort of DLC with some new content before I'd take new forms.

Ho-Oh March 22nd, 2013 8:40 PM

Who knows, they could put more time into discussing "sometimes Yveltal appeared with another forme and scared off all that opposed it..." or something along those lines? Like the back story could be extended upon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 23rd, 2013 11:20 AM

I'll imagine that Gf would've hinted at them having new formes like they did with Kyurem shortly before the reveal of B2W2. Thus far however there doesn't seem to be much...imo there's more of a chance that they'll get a new type than formes...

Ho-Oh March 24th, 2013 9:28 AM

Well they are holding back on information and maybe they're not trying to overwhelm us, and will tell us at a later point that they have alternate formes!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 24th, 2013 4:27 PM

Maybe both of them will be part Ghost. Xerneas could be our much awaited Ghost/Steel, and Yvetal our latest Ghost/Flying since Drifblim.

MiTjA March 25th, 2013 2:12 AM

I think you guys are missing something with the "dual type or single type mascots" thing, which Ive already mentioned.

(I ignore gen I as there wasnt yet a plot and legend involved and all that just the freakin starters on the covers, nothing thought through yet, they just had to put something on)
Every mascot so far was either:
-single type (Ground, Water)
-+Flying (Psychic, Fire, Dragon)
-+Dragon (Steel, Water, Ghost, Fire, Electric, Ice)

(when you look whats missing: Normal, Grass, Fighting, Poison, Bug, Rock, Dark - I find it extremely surprising Grass hasnt seen the light yet.)

Dragon was added for epicness or because they ARE dragons
And Flying was added because it freakin flies

These are JUST COMMON SENSE DUAL TYPES, not "jesus christ its Psychic AND Electric holy ****."
Just as a mascot resembeling an insect would have been Bug!

From that view:
NO mascot was really a dual type pokemon.

They never have more than one "elemental" (for a lack of better word) type.


Therefore my reasoning for them being more likely again "pure" types:
-Grass
-Dark/Flying
(gamefreak wouldn't throw a fancy second type on Xerneas to make up for Yveltal being one, because the Flying part is just the common sense part, not the "oh my god its dual type" thing)


I'm not saying they would never make fancy dual types for legends, just probably not as long as there is still simple stuff to milk like.... pure Grass LOL

MiTjA March 25th, 2013 5:47 AM

Normal would be interesting to see indeed o:

Ho-Oh March 25th, 2013 9:16 AM

Normal... Neither of them really look normal so I would wonder where that'd fit in tbh.

Echidna March 25th, 2013 10:20 AM

Hmm, a Normal type mascot. That would indeed be very interesting, though I'd prefer they not waste a sub-type on Normal when they can utilize it for something else. I DON'T EVEN KNOW OK.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 25th, 2013 11:07 AM

Normal... hmm maybe Xerneas is Poison...we need a legend of that type, and mascot if we're not counting Venusaur here... however Poison is even less likely than Normal imo.

VentusS March 25th, 2013 1:09 PM

the y verison legendary looks beast, however it looks quite odd when it's in ... Y formation...

MiTjA March 25th, 2013 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7595432)
Normal... Neither of them really look normal so I would wonder where that'd fit in tbh.

A pokemon is given the Normal type when it has no other type association, there is no "Normal look", it is the absence of elemental features.

And given how no one seems to figure any type that others recognize, it even sounds like the most realistic possibility here (feels like the whole Sylveon dilemma now that I think about it LOL)...personally I thought it would be a conceptual Grass just like most of the other mascots don't show their type but it makes perfect sense in plot-context, but there is people suggesting about just every type from Electric, Ice, Steel, Psychic, being the more prominent ones..

Jake♫ March 25th, 2013 7:01 PM

I think the difference here is that we all see aspects of those different typings, not the lack of any in particular. That's why I'm personally against it being Normal typed. It's definitely possible, but I don't see it happening. Plus, Normal typing doesn't really scream "legendary" to me, but then again we do have Meloetta (although it's dual-typed =P).

MiTjA March 26th, 2013 5:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7596000)
I think the difference here is that we all see aspects of those different typings, not the lack of any in particular. That's why I'm personally against it being Normal typed. It's definitely possible, but I don't see it happening. Plus, Normal typing doesn't really scream "legendary" to me, but then again we do have Meloetta (although it's dual-typed =P).

And Arceus and Regigigas ;)

Yeah, it probably won't be Normal, but the possibility is more realistic than say... Bug, Dragon or something.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 26th, 2013 9:15 AM

I will be speechless if Xerneas were Bug lol. Yeah those are the least likely along with Poison.

bookishangel March 26th, 2013 10:12 AM

I don't really care what type Xerneas turns out to be. I'm just in love with its design! I mean it's just such a beautiful pokemon. That's why I'm getting X version no matter what.

JayTheKing March 26th, 2013 12:39 PM

Hey listen to this.This is my edition of Xerneas pokedex entry

Xerneas-Transportation Pokemon

It gathers souls from deceased pokemon and humans with its antlers.
When it has a great amount of them the antlers shine brightly indicating that it has to go deposit the souls in the underworld.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 26th, 2013 5:35 PM

True, they look awesome. It really says a lot when we can't figure out the types of the new Pokémon except for the starters. Makes me eager to see the third legend...if they don't pull a Suicune on us that is.


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