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Ho-Oh March 27th, 2013 8:23 AM

Shuckle could possibly become broken sooo nope. :( I would love a Bug-type Quick Attack, though. It just seems so necessary given that now there's priority everywhere and bug would work well, especially against Psychic-types.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 27th, 2013 8:37 AM

Shuckle's not based on a Pupa as far as I know... so if such a move was made it wouldn't get it. It be exclusive to Beedrill, Butterfree, Beautifly, and Dustox, and maybe even Tyranitar and Salamence... by breeding (not even sure if that's possible even chain wise).

Anyways a bug quick attack will be awesome ^_^.

Ho-Oh March 27th, 2013 8:48 AM

Might make Tyranitar a little TOO overpowered. Sooo maybe not to all pupa :x

But yes, I think it would :3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 27th, 2013 9:52 AM

Yeah...giving it to only Bugs will be good xD

I imagine the Bug quick attack to be a sting attack, if so then I see Vespiquen, Beedrill, and Venopede getting it.

Archeops12354 March 28th, 2013 8:31 AM

Increasing both defenses with one move seems a little too...overpowered? I think increasing defense by 2 stages and sp defense by 1 stage (or vise versa) would be good enough, perhaps if the move had a downside such as less speed or attack.

Ho-Oh March 28th, 2013 9:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7597861)
Yeah...giving it to only Bugs will be good xD

I imagine the Bug quick attack to be a sting attack, if so then I see Vespiquen, Beedrill, and Venopede getting it.

Nonono ;_; Needs to be like a headbutt thing, so Pinsir and stuff can get it :x

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 28th, 2013 1:30 PM

I don't see a head butt... it just doesn't seem all that very bug like for a Bug version of quick attack... maybe a web based attack if not sting.

Also on the topic of Quick Attack how about a ice version of Extreme Speed? It'll cut those Dragons down to size.

Ho-Oh March 29th, 2013 7:41 AM

Well there's already Ice Shard, but if it's more powerful, like 60 BP then maaaybe it might be more suited to take out dragons!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 29th, 2013 10:01 AM

That's what I said lol, a ice version of Extremespeed, which is a more powerful version of Quick Attack.
How about a more powerful version of Giga Drain? Like Omega Drain that has either 90 or 100 bp. It'll be learned at a high level I imagine.

Ho-Oh March 29th, 2013 10:12 AM

Maybe! But it'd have to have low accuracy or something because imagine Ludicolo with it, daym. :(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 29th, 2013 10:18 AM

I imagine it having 70 % accuracy. And yeah Ludicolo may go Uber if it were 100 %...

Ho-Oh March 29th, 2013 7:04 PM

Uber, God no. XD; But higher, definitely, maybe even OU. But if it were to have 70% accuracy I'd just jump straight to 120 BP really, so it's even with the others.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 30th, 2013 9:22 AM

Yeah buy it has the absorbing hp effect so if it were to be 120 in some ways it'll be better than Hydro Pump... also it'll be much better and more useful than Solarbeam which takes two turns and lacks a secondary effect.

Ho-Oh April 3rd, 2013 12:25 AM

Hmm good point. Maybe make it 120 to make it even with the others, and lower it to 60%??

Archeops12354 April 3rd, 2013 2:42 AM

I don't like the 120 power and 60% accuracy, I think I would prefer 100 power and 80% or even 90% accuracy.

Ho-Oh April 3rd, 2013 2:54 AM

90% would be suited I guess. Because it'd be like Earthquake but could also Absorb HP and any lower in accuracy would be unnecessary imo.

Rebel Rebel April 3rd, 2013 6:55 AM

If nothing else, I am begging Game Freak to give Flareon a Fire-type version of ExtremeSpeed. I'll do anything, just make Flareon not suck. Pretty please?

Ho-Oh April 3rd, 2013 7:30 AM

Oh ya, a high priority fire move would be fun. I would imagine it as a type of punch though so idk if mons like Flareon could have it. :x

Archeops12354 April 3rd, 2013 8:23 AM

Fire-Type extreme speed would also be great on Emboar, he has high attack but low speed, perfect for priority! And of course, hooraaahhy! No more Scizor! :P

Also, it would make Emboar suck less. :|

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 5th, 2013 11:05 AM

I see extreme speed as more of a high speed tackle move rather than a punch move...
Either way a physical fire tackle-based priority move would help Flareon and Emboar a lot!
Also how about a fire version of slash? They could give it to Flareon providing it a decent physical fire move plus the bonus of hitting a possible critical.

Ho-Oh April 5th, 2013 8:11 PM

Fire Slash makes total sense. Fire totally needs better moves and now's the time for it imo.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 8:41 AM

Yeah, I'm quite surprise we have yet to have elemental slashes...well beyond Oshawott's semi-signature move.

Ho-Oh April 6th, 2013 8:44 AM

I can see Fiery Slash, but not really for Water/Grass. I mean grass isn't overly sharp and water is just... wet. XD; Sooo if anything we'd hopefully get like Fiery Slash. :3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 8:53 AM

We already have a grass version actually, Leaf Blade.
I meant Ice, Electric, Fire, Water slashes.
However...how about making a grass punch called Wood Punch that may cause flinching?

Ho-Oh April 6th, 2013 9:06 AM

Oh right Leaf Blade ahaha. Ice Slash would be awesome, so would Wood Punch! Don't think there'd be anything for electric, though...


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