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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 9:15 AM

Electro slash? I feel like if they make one Luxray will have it, and so will Raikou, and maybe even...Raichu.

Yamiidenryuu April 6th, 2013 11:41 AM

Elemental Claws might work better, along the lines of Shadow Claw.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 1:02 PM

Well shadow claw is a Ghost version of Slash... I guess they could call them claws too if they want to :3

How about making a water version of Double edge? We've already got grass and fire versions of the move but lack water.

Ho-Oh April 11th, 2013 7:44 PM

Not sure how water can really hit hard other than Waterfall. More Scald-like moves should appear tho imo.

Sammuthegreat April 12th, 2013 3:37 AM

New powerful AND accurate Physical Water, Fire, Electric and Ice moves are needed in my view (with good distribution).

New powerful AND accurate one-turn Special Grass, Ghost, Rock and Steel moves are also needed in my opinion.

Most importantly though, I'd like to see Fire and Ice versions of Stealth Rock - something like "Lava Rise" and "Deep Freeze" - that does damage on entry (with type-effective damage), or even burns/freezes on entry (although this might be too powerful). I think these would really mix up the metagame nicely, making Fire and Ice less useless defensively (although Rock types might still be favourable since they'd take half damage from Lava Rise...).

Perhaps Deep Freeze could cause the enemy to slip over on entry, causing more (and type-effective) damage the more the enemy weighs?

There could even be a Flying entry hazard - something like "Tornado" that would mess with the weight mechanics by picking everything up off the ground and tossing them about for damage. Flying-types (and possibly 'mons with Levitate) wouldn't take damage since they can control themselves in midair.

Thoughts?

Archeops12354 April 12th, 2013 7:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 7620700)
New powerful AND accurate Physical Water, Fire, Electric and Ice moves are needed in my view (with good distribution).

New powerful AND accurate one-turn Special Grass, Ghost, Rock and Steel moves are also needed in my opinion.

Most importantly though, I'd like to see Fire and Ice versions of Stealth Rock - something like "Lava Rise" and "Deep Freeze" - that does damage on entry (with type-effective damage), or even burns/freezes on entry (although this might be too powerful). I think these would really mix up the metagame nicely, making Fire and Ice less useless defensively (although Rock types might still be favourable since they'd take half damage from Lava Rise...).

Perhaps Deep Freeze could cause the enemy to slip over on entry, causing more (and type-effective) damage the more the enemy weighs?

There could even be a Flying entry hazard - something like "Tornado" that would mess with the weight mechanics by picking everything up off the ground and tossing them about for damage. Flying-types (and possibly 'mons with Levitate) wouldn't take damage since they can control themselves in midair.

Thoughts?

Cool ideas, but like you said some of them do seem overpowered.

Ho-Oh April 23rd, 2013 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammuthegreat (Post 7620700)
New powerful AND accurate Physical Water, Fire, Electric and Ice moves are needed in my view (with good distribution).

New powerful AND accurate one-turn Special Grass, Ghost, Rock and Steel moves are also needed in my opinion.

Most importantly though, I'd like to see Fire and Ice versions of Stealth Rock - something like "Lava Rise" and "Deep Freeze" - that does damage on entry (with type-effective damage), or even burns/freezes on entry (although this might be too powerful). I think these would really mix up the metagame nicely, making Fire and Ice less useless defensively (although Rock types might still be favourable since they'd take half damage from Lava Rise...).

Perhaps Deep Freeze could cause the enemy to slip over on entry, causing more (and type-effective) damage the more the enemy weighs?

There could even be a Flying entry hazard - something like "Tornado" that would mess with the weight mechanics by picking everything up off the ground and tossing them about for damage. Flying-types (and possibly 'mons with Levitate) wouldn't take damage since they can control themselves in midair.

Thoughts?

Deep Freeze sounds like it could be good, although I think I'd call it something like Ice Rink or Ice Skate idk, because Deep Freeze to me just makes me think of Kyurem and not an entry hazard move.

shubham2207 April 25th, 2013 12:35 AM

I think i got a move..
How about this?

Name - Bubble Blade
Type - Water
Power - 70
Accuracy - 100
PP - 15

Throws sharp bubbles like a blade. Has a high critical ratio..

Ho-Oh April 25th, 2013 4:56 AM

Sounds good! Except maybe like, wave blade sounds better as they can be sharper than bubbles? :x

shubham2207 April 25th, 2013 6:28 AM

Yaa, like water version of aeroblast..

Ho-Oh May 16th, 2013 5:46 AM

So we do actually have Parabolic Charge and Parting Shot confirmed. With these in mind, what else do you think we'll get (that seem to be suited to the new Pokemon?) Maybe something like a new type of Head Smash exclusive for Gogoat and previous Bulls?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 16th, 2013 8:17 AM

I don't think Gogoat's line will be getting an exclusive move. Maybe Fletchling will learn a fire version of Sky attack in it's final form?

Krazzikk May 17th, 2013 12:43 PM

Possible New Move In X & Y?
 
I was recently playing Pokemon White 2 and found one of these trainers:
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/t/063.gif

Who said "a flood of attacks from three Pokemon..." *hits B button* "I know! 'Jetstream' attack! Let's call it that." I thought this might be a new move that would be debuted in X & Y.

What do you guys think?

LycaNinja May 17th, 2013 12:54 PM

I think it may reference a new battle mechanic for double and triple battles with moves combining to form a new attack, like the pledge attacks did, but with maybe all attacks doing something like this... Maybe rotation battles will allow combos like that too somehow.

SolarAbusoru May 17th, 2013 12:57 PM

Or it may simply be a random NPC saying something weird just like every other random NPC in every Pokemon game ever =P

Guy May 18th, 2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7664028)
So we do actually have Parabolic Charge and Parting Shot confirmed. With these in mind, what else do you think we'll get (that seem to be suited to the new Pokemon?) Maybe something like a new type of Head Smash exclusive for Gogoat and previous Bulls?

If Parabolic Charge is the electrical equivalent to Absorb, then I can imagine there might be equally equivalent electric type moves to Mega Drain and Giga Drain.

MarinoKadame May 18th, 2013 2:18 PM

Wonder if Helioptile gonna get an electric attack like Solar Beam and Hyper Beam.

Yamiidenryuu May 18th, 2013 3:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7666877)
If Parabolic Charge is the electrical equivalent to Absorb, then I can imagine there might be equally equivalent electric type moves to Mega Drain and Giga Drain.

Not necessarily- Horn Leech, Drain Punch and Leech Life don't have any same-type variants.

Krazzikk May 19th, 2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7665692)
Or it may simply be a random NPC saying something weird just like every other random NPC in every Pokemon game ever =P

Hopes and dreams crushed :c

blue May 19th, 2013 1:15 PM

That rumour about the Poison type move named Belch with a Base Power of 120 seems plausible, we haven't got a strong type Poison move and it sounds really fitting to its typing. I can imagine it being used by the likes of Weezing, Muk, Swalot etc.

Zorogami May 20th, 2013 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7668196)
That rumour about the Poison type move named Belch with a Base Power of 120 seems plausible, we haven't got a strong type Poison move and it sounds really fitting to its typing. I can imagine it being used by the likes of Weezing, Muk, Swalot etc.

I definitely agree, but maybe holding a berry shouldn't be a requirement to use it, as it would limits its use quite a lot.

let's say maybe the move could have a base power of 120 when used with a berry, and after that it would drop to about a base power of 65? Would make it still usable in battle. And maybe it could have an added effect depending on the type of berry the Pokemon holds?
Would make for a lot of options

LycaNinja May 20th, 2013 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 7668890)
I definitely agree, but maybe holding a berry shouldn't be a requirement to use it, as it would limits its use quite a lot.

let's say maybe the move could have a base power of 120 when used with a berry, and after that it would drop to about a base power of 65? Would make it still usable in battle. And maybe it could have an added effect depending on the type of berry the Pokemon holds?
Would make for a lot of options

I think it should be based at 60... If you eat a berry the turn before with the trainer using it, then it goes up to 90 and if you eat a held berry or through an attack that eats the opponent's berry, it goes up to 120... Lowered if the berry gives an additional effect.

Jake♫ May 20th, 2013 5:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7668196)
That rumour about the Poison type move named Belch with a Base Power of 120 seems plausible, we haven't got a strong type Poison move and it sounds really fitting to its typing. I can imagine it being used by the likes of Weezing, Muk, Swalot etc.

I mean, we have Gunk Shot already that's 120 BP and 70 accuracy. I don't really think we'd need another one like that. I like the idea of having it affected by Berry usage though (both because it seems like a cool move concept, plus it means Berries would come back =P).

Archeops12354 June 11th, 2013 4:37 AM

Hey guess what?
I HAVE A TIME MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinking about going back in time so I can join Gamefreak and make new moves and stuff.

For my first idea, I was thinking of an electric move that I could put into the game. Something like U-Turn? Anyway, it is a special electric move with 20PP and 70 base power. I have been trying to think of a name for ages, but I just couldn't think of any.

Suggestions anyone?

I have already thought of other moves too. I really like Mewtwo, so why why not give him a special move? It would probably be a psychic move, 100 base power, and I'm thinking of the possible side effects of this new move. Psystrike sounds like a cool name.

Zeturic June 20th, 2013 5:00 PM

This has probably been suggested, but some kind of physical Hidden Power.

Hidden Power, though not very strong, even maxed out, can be very fun to use in-game, and can be useful for type-coverage for Pokemon with limited movepools. However, any Pokemon that are primarily physical based are just out of luck.


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