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Villainous Team Speculation!
What do you think the villainous team will be called? What will be their goal? What sort of Pokémon will they use?
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I think that their would be team Z and thier goal will be to capture the whole region and they use Dark,Ice,Normal and Fighting type pokemon.
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I think they will be called Team Dimension or something having to do with X,Y,Z.
I can't guess what they could want with a Bird and a Deer whose powers we barely know about. I think they will be called Team Dimension or something having to do with X,Y,Z. I can't guess what they could want with a Bird and a Deer whose powers we barely know about. |
I have a feeling they will be using Psychic & Dark type Pokemon, it would be a change after all.
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No boring villainous team please. Cut the world domination project and get yourself to more realistic plans.
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totally not gonna happen but woah anyway |
I don't think the games are named after the genetics... but the 3D model of X,Y, and Z axis so no Chromosome. If they do that than it'll be like Male versus Female...
Speaking of Females I hope the leader is one. |
It would be really cool to have a female villianous leader.
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Going with the X and Y theme, maybe the new villainous team will capture Pokemon and try to splice their genes/DNA together like mad scientists? And as the protagonists you have to stop them from trying to work against nature/creating mutant Pokemon?
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And what if the female villain is actually the strongest leader of all this time? :3
I think they will use dark, psychic or electric type. Being based on the 3D models, hmm. :C |
Well some think the theme is life and death so maybe the evil team seek immortality, heck we've had a god wanna be so why not an immoral wannabe?
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Immortality sounds awesome. But I'm not sure how they can actually seek it unless both the legendaries have the power to combine and help someone to live forever. XD;
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The villianous team will probably have something to do with DNA or something like that and hopefully the story will be darker than the Gen V's story.
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In the third version they could what you mentioned, bring them together. This would make it kind of dark, talking about mortality, and how one must spend their life... oh what if Agatha is the evil leader lol. |
I've got a feeling that the villainous team would be based around researching and utilising the DNA structure of Pokemon to wreak havoc on the region.
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I'm really hoping that they will use some sort of nature vs. technology aspects; like maybe there can be two villainous teams, instead of one. =O Although, perhaps that's a biiiiiit unlikely because of the dual pokemon games, but.. eh. :3 A DNA theme can be awesome too; perhaps they will sought out to acquire the DNA codes of pokemon for -something-.
Maybe for them to do their bidding? Hmmmm~ |
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Shadow Pokémon with science? |
The team's name will most likely be based on DNA, and given the theme, it goes back to my prediction of their goal to steal Pokemon DNA and use on themselves to gain their powers, with little success.
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I reckon we'll get some wacky scientists crazed on DNA and genetics. I'd love to see a return from Colress.
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Calling DNA splicing. Also calling regional professor being resident bad guy boss or something. There's so much possibilities.
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Maybe something like Team Bio and they're all like.. ex-scientists from Cinnibar island or something!
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They shall be called Team Alphabet!
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X and Y are referencing sex chromosomes. The storyline may have something to do with gender.
The evil team will be feminists. Super feminists. Totally called it |
I'm just hoping the new evil team will utilize insider trading, embezzlement, and Ponzi schemes instead of legendary Pokemon. You know, a plot that would actually be believable. Heck, just go ahead and call them "Team Madoff" lol
And dress them up in generic business suits. It doesn't help their cause at all when they wear the logo of their team right on their outfit... |
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I think that plans of gene splicing would be cool for an evil team. |
I think those villainous team might be called Team Genetic. 'Cause here's the thing, the Legendary Pokémon seem to be about life force, so it would make sense to have the villainous team called Team Genetic. But this is pure speculation. xD
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Feminism? Idk... isn't that a little... off-base for Pokemon. XD
Although hmmm Akuroma was researching things! SCIENTIFIC THINGS. Maybe someone from this region stole his plans of stuff to do with chromosomes and now are... putting those plans into action! lol if so they'd be called The Scientists. I like that. |
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Evil Organization speculation.
Do you think an evil organization, like Team Rocket,Magma,Aqua,Galactic and Plasma may return to this game? Or do you think a new team will appear in this game? If so, what do you think their goals will be? What are your thoughts and what would you love to see?
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I'd like to see a Team Rocket mixed with Team Plasma.
Wanting to take over the world, but currently they rule the region using crime and money. It would be a good mix, if implemented effectively. |
I'd love to see a evil organization return. Like team rocket,magma,aqua,galactic or plasma. One of them...if not, then I think...uh...they want to capture X and Y...to...dunno, rule the world? XD.
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Maybe they'll have an organization based on Guerillas. They could ambush the player out of no where and battle you at certain intervals. They could want to take your pokemon. The leader could seek to overthrow the local pokemon government (or I guess League) to rule the region, with an army of grunts marching in at the Pokemon league, too many that it takes the E4 teaming up with the gym leaders and rivals/friends to stop using all their pokemon. The legendary pokemon is needed to prevent the incoming army.
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I bet the Team's name would be Team Axis since we have an X and Y axis and their goal must have something to do with the Pokemon World itself.
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team x and team y oone team being an all male team the other an all female team.
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Just totally had a laugh of the thought of there being two teams like Aqua/Magma and one team being all male, and the other being all female. Just thought of them using Pokemon of the coordinating genders. LOL! Team X and Team Y.
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Team Rocket.
They'll talk about how they've finally rebuilt their organization, and it is finally stronger than ever. They're going to talk about Mew and Mewtwo and what they've learned from their past mistakes in Pokemon genetic manipulation. They're going to talk about how they've finally perfected the art of genetic manipulation and can't be stopped! The legendary pokemon X and Y will come from genetic manipulation, created in the similar fashion that Mewtwo was? |
Actual the X and Y could also refer to the 3D camera angles used in the game.
The camera angels would be X, Y and Z. So... the teams could be called TEAM ANGLES!!! Bent on destroying the world at 3 different angles. (Dumb idea :P) EDIT: Wait, my bad, I was meant to write AXES. It would be called Team Axes. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Eixos.jpg |
I feel like it might depend on what the legendaries do, and some people have assumed the game to have genetics involved so maybe Team Genocide xD I feel like the region should have a lot of Dark-Types, idk why xD
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I like how the concept of a villainous team is a staple to the series. It makes it feel like we should've seen this coming miles away. XD
Considering the names of the games, I'd say the teams will either be involved in genetic manipulation or some sort of gender war, similar to Magma and Aqua but with one being all-male and the other being all-female instead. |
OK how about a team who want to unlock a Pokemon of great power. They will be known as Team Apollyon( Apollyon means
the leader is named Daniel his goal is Pokemon, one that he can control and crush weak Pokemon and weak people. Daniel has three commanders: Name : Meaning Diana : perfection ( seeks and uses po Naomi: Beautiful( seeks and uses Pokemon who are the most beautiful) Adoram: beauty and power ( seeks and uses Pokemon who are the most beautiful and the strongest) i took biblical names, cause (i though that would be cool). Daniel's plan is to release Balak ( it means who lays waste or destroys) . Balak was an ancient Pokemon who's power laid waste to much of the planet causing damage and discord to many people and Pokemon so they prayed and asked for a divine intervention and depending on which version Xerneas and Yveltal defeated and sealed Balak so he can never harm people and Pokemon ever again. so the people and Pokemon grateful to Xerneas and Yveltal created a Temple for both Heroes. To prevent Balak from ever arising an order of people and Pokemon known as Knights of light and Hope. They are lead by Omri, a man who's family was tasked to be the leader of the protectors to ensure that Balak never returns. So to unlock Balak Team Apollyon needs four seals scattered all over the region and once they do that they also craft a device that allows Daniel to control Balak. When Balak is summoned and placed under Daniel's control he will then try to attack both Xerneas and Yveltal's temples (depending on which version) but will be stalled by all the Gym leaders and elite four and league champion will attempt to stall while the player and the temple priestess try to summon the legendary hero Pokemon. After a titanic battle Balak turns into a purified Pokemon known as Gabrillion (based on Gabriel). In recognition of the player's bravery (depending on which version) Xerneas or Yveltal will judge the player worthy and challenge them to a battle ( to capture them ). You wont be able to get Gabrillion until after beating the Elite four, after beating the elite four you'll get call from Omri telling you to get to the temple ASAP, you go to the temple and Gabrillion decides to you are worthy and wants to go with you ( if you have a free slot in your party) afterwards you'll be given an item known as the Dark cape if you give it to Gabrillion they will form change to Balak. so that's my idea highly unlikely but i thought id give it a try. sorry about the long read i wanted to be detailed as possible. Oh and all the leaders are arrested by Officer Jenny. |
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Wait, if there's going to be a new team, I think there will be TWO evil teams! Team X, who wants to capture Xernias to rule the world and Team Y who wants to catch Yveltal whatever his name is, to rule the world! And they have a rivalry like team aqua and team Magma.
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I have a feeling that this could be their hideout which reminds me of the one from Pokemon Colosseum in a way;
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Team Helix will be split into two groups, masculine and feminine. The top boss will turn out to be the protagonist's absent father. He gathered genetic samples from top trainers of recent years( ie. our previous protagonists) to try create the ultimate trainer.
And as change of pace, the main activities of the team take place behind the scenes unlike previous teams, so that they go undetected. |
I wonder....Has anyone else examined the logo of the games here closely? There's a small graphic designed after the helix spiral of a DNA strand. If I had to conclude anything, it'd be that the new villainous team will in fact involve genetic manipulation. Far more likely than two teams of all-male and all-female conflicts.
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Seems we might see a main series equivalent to CIPHER if it is indeed about genetic experimentation, cept instead of shadow Pokemon, we get more man made Pokemon
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Who knows? Team Runic? Team Alphabets? Ah yes, alphabets, maybe they'll use Unowns often, it'll be like their mascot & the leader has to be female this time, male leaders are getting too mainstream.
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Team Spectrum would make all of the Villainous team initials combined Gramps ;)
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Considering this is a game for the 3DS, X and Y may represent the dimensions, and because of this I agree that the name may be Team Z, to represent the third dimension, or Team Naught, to represent any variable.
My guess is that they will attempt to create a dimension that is their own, rather than try to take over the current world (much like Cyrus did, destroy the current world to create his own, rather than take over it). I hope they make this a little more mature, like having to sacrifice the Legendaries to obtain their power, rather than just have them get absorbed for a few minutes (like Kyurem). But, my guess will be that, if this comes up, Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina will make an appearance, being the three Dimensional Pokemon (Palkia is the 3 dimensions, Dialga is the 4th, and Giratina is the reverse dimension), or if it's DNA, it's going to be Mew, being the ancestor of Pokemon and containing DNA of all of them. And going further to support my theory about the villians going for the dimensions, X and Y are the legendaries, the bird being Y and the stag being X. Since X is run (the stag runs across the land) and Y is rise (the bird using the second dimension with freedom), it would follow that they'll try to make a Z pokemon. |
Team Dimension sounds nice but it reminds me of Team Plasma for some reason.
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Although this might be rather unlikely, I would like this generation's villainous team to have more variety of pokemon than just the whole normal/poison/whatever; kind of like team cipher? At least they should be more difficult to beat. D=
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I want the leader to be female with four commanders, two male and two females. Each commander's first initial corresponds to GTAC while the leader's name starts with U (in biology U is replaced by T in rna synthisis or something like that...it's been awhile). They seek to gather the Dna of strong trainers and their Pokemon to awaken the legends who absorb the "life force" bringing them back to life/ awaking them from sleep.
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But if they were harder to beat then it means that the protagonist might give up easier, like, wouldn't it be more motivational if you're outright stronger than the villains, showing that inside your heart... you're actually stronger? I mean you want to be better without training hard, you want to overcome evil, and for evil to never be too strong and can easily be suppressed by good.
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Maybe they are creating hybrid pokemon with the DNA/genes and are making freaks of pokemon. It's like planet of the apes, pokemon are already powerful, but combining two strong forces = ???
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I really hope we get two villainous teams this time around. Fighting the same old team over and over was really annoying. Since the evil team(s) will be trying to take control of Yveltal/Xerneas I can imagine that the one that tries to take over Xerneas will try to perhaps expand forests or have something to do with nature or something since Xerneas seems pretty nature-like. I have no idea what they could do with Yveltal since they can't exactly expand the sky or really do anything with the sky idk
And the Pokemon could be types that go with the types of Yveltal/Xerneas. |
Team Alpha-Z since they used the letters X and Y then the villainous team might use Z (a possible 3rd legendary?). The Alpha part is a combination of "Alphabet" and opression
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While there are some really interesting ideas here, I'd actually prefer if we didn't get a villainous "team" in the coming generation. For some reason, I think they've just used the "evil team after the legendary pokémon" concept for all its worth. What I'd really like to see is a lone terrorist operating on his own and for reasons that have nothing to do with pokémon or humans relationship with pokémon. I'd like to see a guy who is rebelling against the world government because he is an anarchist or something along those lines. The player could have multiple run ins with him, and of course, he'd use pokémon to fight, but his whole motivation wouldn't be about pokémon. I dunno, I guess that's a little too mature for the franchise, I guess.
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I have a feeling they will be called Team Z. If they aren't called team Z, then they will make a sequel to the game called Pokemon Z.
I kind of wish for no villain team at all, but it will probably happen. I want a female leader, none of evil teams have had a female leader. Ah well. Obviously the bad guys will want world domination for whatever reason they come up with. |
I would like to see two competing teams as observed in ruby/sapphire.
Team dimensions would be nice for one encompassing team. Teams vertical and horizontal might be nice for competing teams. Typing: I would be nice to see some expansion from the dark and poison types. Perhaps Psychic, Fighting, and Dark would be a nice mixture. |
I really, really can't see the genetics idea coming true, for a few reasons.
One - X isn't female, and Y isn't male. XX is female, and XY is male (at least in humans, for birds, for example, it is reversed). X is called Turner symdrone, and Y is... well, dead (you need the information on the X chromosome to live). Two - Look at the legendaries. Even if they were going for a gendered motif - does Xerneas look feminine? Does Yveltal look masculine? No, not really. However, Xerneas does look like an Earth spirit and Yveltal looks like a sky spirit, which suggests that the inspiration is the dimensional axes, X and Y. Three - To be honest, genetics, especially realistic genetics, doesn't seem like something that'd ever get brought up, if for no other reason than they'd pretty much have to explain how Pokemon breeding actually works. |
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I'd be more interested if they were trying to do something specific, like say giving all living things the mental capability of a magikarp. Also I would like to see them at least partially reach their goal, make it more desperate near the end. So for example if they were plotting to mind control people, have it actually happen and you need to reverse it with the help of the legendary pokemon. |
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I dunno I think that's way too specific and could potentially even ruin themselves (and way too hard to... well, do lol). |
That DNA helix someone pointed out in the logo is enough to make me consider that there just might be some genetic manipulation involved.
That could possibly set up another appearance of Colress, considering he wanted to increase a Pokémon's strength, he might just be willing to modify their genes to do it. Though I guess that's unlikely, considering BW2's ending. |
For my Concept Art class I came up with a team that stole artwork and sold them on the black market xD They were Team Ardour...
So a team that does something that isn't involving Pokémon would be really cool to me, since it would be very different from all the previous teams we've had! Artwork is actually a pretty good possibility, since the Louvre is in Paris! XD |
So many great ideas. But knowing Nintendo, they'll probably just go the simple and predictable route.
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Hmm... it will probably have something to do with genetics or chromosomes for obvious reasons then again you never know.. somebody mentioned it possibly having a link with Mewtwo, that sounds cool ;) Either way I hope they don't resemble team galactic in any way I couldn't stand them -.-
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Yeah, I'd rather have an old team return as opposed to yet ANOTHER new team...
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New Villain Team Leader
I think the leader should be Professor Oak, because I call him Gramps and look at this acronym:
Galactic Rocket Aqua Magma Plasma The new Team should start with a "S". Imagine all this time that Professor Oak was actually the antagonist :O But then again it is a stupid idea, what do you think? |
Okay, so this is my idea. It's completely far-fetched and has nothing to do with genetics, because I hope that GAME FREAK will be a bit more creative than that.
--- The villainous team is called Team Nova. Their mission is similar to Team Plasma- to get Pokemon away from people - because, they say, Pokemon suck the life force of the human they are in the service of to power their attacks. According to Team Nova, Pokemon are completely sentient and are plotting to destroy humanity. The relationship humans have had with them is a total lie. They have been planning to overtake humans ever since the first contact. Every time a Pokemon uses a technique, it siphons away the life force of everyone in the area, but mainly that of its Trainer, whose ownership of the Pokeball strengthens the connection between them. Of course, this is all a lie. This makes no sense at all to the scientists of the Pokeworld, and they try to discourage the people from believing Nova's rumors. However, Team Nova is very skilled at hiding their true motives and making their ideas believable. They even succeed in convincing your character, and you go on a mission influenced by something they say at some point in the game. You, during this mission, discover their true aim: to confiscate all the Pokemon in the world in order to "eliminate" them and create a world without fighting. This is a good idea. If only they weren't trying to send all the Pokemon away. (Not kill them. Send them to the Distortion World or someting) In this world without fighting, Team Nova would be hailed as heroes who stopped the endless conflict which stemmed from the root of Pokemon. Children would be safe, walking from town to town would be without danger, and the world would make more sense in general. And the ruler of it all would be the couple who are the leaders of Team Nova. One is a man named Adrien who was raised in Kanto, and is the son of Ltn. Surge. After seeing his father fight in the war, he wants to prevent fighting and he believes the best way to do this is to remove the "problem" of Pokemon. The other is Mars, one of the former Commanders of Team Galactic, who got lost when searching for her leader/awkward love interest, Cyrus, and ended up in Kanto, where she met Adrien. From watching Cyrus's speeches, she is skilled at...convincing people of things that aren't true. After some time they got married, and realized that their motives were similar and started a new team together. Team Nova wants to use the powers of the X and Y pokemon whose names I cant remember to convince the Pokemon that humans are sucking THEIR life force. With X and Y under their control, Nova will be able to communicate with Pokemon telepathically like N does and spread their brainwashing to them. --- And that's MY theory. You better not tl:dr me. |
Team Splice :)
haha, i'm all over XandY if it's true that X and Y is all about DNA, then the villanous teams would probably use the illegal way of producing hybrid pokemons, via DNA splicing. |
Perhaps they don't splice pokemon but instead just splice Pokémon, radiate meteors with viruses on them (Deoxys), clone (Mewtwo), and revive/modify fossils (Genesect)
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It'd be nice to finally have a female leader. They are pretty evil sometimes.
Another idea would be bringing back Team Rocket and adding something to fight Mewtwo. A mewthree fits with this chromosome/genetic theme as he was cloned. |
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This. But no. If X and Y's theme is based on DNA or genetics, I have a feeling we will see a villainous team of scientists or something. |
How funny how the five teams fit the Gramps theory so well...
Maybe the team will be called Team Splicer and take the research Plasma did on the DNA Splicers and Genesect, as well as Glactic's...strange test tube experiments for their evil plan, what ever that maybe. |
How about a Darwin type organization, One that strives to create the strongest pokemon. One that makes Arceus look like a magikarp. OK get this lets say when Arceus created the world and pokemon he split them into two groups X and Y. Xerneas and Yveltal are like the Adam and eve of pokemon( not gender based) but are either descendants of either legendary pokemon. Now Team Darwin tries to create the perfect pokemon by getting both Xerneas and Yveltal's DNA to create the most powerful pokemon in the world.
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La guillotine
I am hoping this game takes a more revolutionarily approach as france did have a revolution and i thought about the guillotine and the theme of death. I hope if death is mentioned properly (not a cemetary please!) it would have to do with the villains.
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I imagine the letter "Z" will be reserved for the title of the third Pokemon game that will inevitably be released a year after X and Y are so I can't envisage the villainous team being called Team Z.
Perhaps something like "Team Origin", which is related to the Cartesian Co-Ordinate System naming system utilised here and reflecting the centralisation of all the different paths. I echo the general sentiments about changing up the ambitions of this team from the typical goals of capturing/acquiring/finding/exploiting etc etc the region's legendary pokemon to something different. What about developing a biological weapon to commit genocide against pokemon? |
Probably one having to do with the lives of Pokemon in modern times.
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I just thought of something, how about an organization who is more world wide in scope, I mean they have branches in other regions sort of like Team Rocket in the anime. Meaning that once we bet the game we could have other people coming in to get revenge and try to reconquer the region. |
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Team Nova is a likely name.
The villians should reside in an abandoned town with a playground and zoo which get restored post-game. Playground into daycare, zoo into safari zone. |
Well, Hitler isn't the only person to ever commit genocide but even so, a team actively stating they want to KILL pokémon is clearly never going to happen. Perhaps they might want to rid the region of them or strip them of their powers or something (and an evil team who hated pokémon would be interesting after the last few gens) but I do presume we'll be sticking to the world domination theme.
Maybe we'll even see an evil team who wants to turn the region into a monarchy. Reverse French Revolution, kind of. Team Aristocrat. After someone mentioned Dialga/Palkia/Giratina, I'd love to see the Distortion World play a part. Not that I have any idea how it would, but it feels like something that could be explored a tad more than it was in Platinum. |
Hmm. Maybe the team will be named team Space? Or Spacial? (as in vectors and dimensions) Nah. Would be stupid. I think they will be another forgettable ragtag team of misfits. (I have a personal grudge against galaxy) But if the discussion is about genetics then scientists. Wait. I have a crazy idea. What if the professors are united to solve the mysteries of pokemon. Then they would try to splice tge pokemon genes and dna to do so. Team Splicers! :D (Im throwing this at random) But think about it. Oak being the leader and each other professor would be a admin. Then the one to resist them would be someone like N... Or maybe professor Oak junior? Or even professor Ash?! (seriously throwing things at random) but yeah...i was wondering that isnt ash also a tree? Could be an coincident. ;)
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A team that starts with S...maybe Team Serpent if the legends are in deed based on Norse myth. Thus far the teams have gotten their names from the mascots typing except with Team Rocket...though Charzard is fire and can fly so perhaps it makes sense...Anyways once we find out the typing of the mascots perhaps we'll have a better guess.
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I'd like to see something new and interesting, like an extremely corrupt government. There could be curfews for citizens, military police around every corner, and maybe bans on battles and limitations on Pokemon ownership. And then, in the midst of it all, you could be a member of a resistance group. Going with that idea, you would recieve your starter Pokemon from a stolen government package intercepted by said resistance group.
To make this even better, the government soldiers, who would serve as the "grunts" of the region, would have a wide variety of Pokemon as opposed to the usual Poison and Dark types that every single grunt ever owns. That would increase difficulty, and the concept of a corrupt government would make for a more interesting conflict than we've ever seen before. Building off the idea, the government could have been given this extreme power due to the legendary Pokemon. Maybe the legendaries were awakened years ago, and went on a rampage, destroying towns and burning things. The government could have started off as a noble organization, taking control of the legendaries to protect the people from their wrath. While this protected the citizens of the region, maybe a corrupt leader went into power. This leader wouldn't be complete, utter "evil", but he could have taken the desire for order too far, maybe even using the legendary for his own purposes. This idea could be really interesting, especially with the possibility of a different type of protagonist. Maybe the game could focus on the struggle between the government and the aforementioned resistance group. The protagonist could be a member of the resistance, and the "professor" of the region could be the leader of the resistance group. Yeah, it would be amazing. --- But knowing Game Freak, the team will be something like "Team Dark Evilness" or "Team We Hate Friendship". They will have the usual cliched goal of taking over the world by awakening the legendary. And you, the protagonist, will be a 10-year old who wants to be friends with everyone. Together with your team of Pokemon best friends, you and your best friend rival will fight against the purely evil team with no redeeming qualities whatsoever and defeat them, showing that friendship is as strong as 5,000 atomic bombs. Life sucks. |
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i think team X/Y would be fine. they should have N appear and get mad at them for doing his single letter thing! :D |
That sounds sort of like what I imagine Ghetsis doing if he had won in Unova...
Also the teams do have redemption such as Aqua and Magma, and Plasma (well N and his sage and grunt allies). Perhaps the evil team wouldn't want to control the legends at all like Team Rocket who didn't really care much about the legends (the game version of the group as the manga and anime very much want legends). Though an evil government would be nice to see...maybe an evil resistance too (reminds me of a story I'm working on (original)) they could try to get the hero on their side...if only... |
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There have been a number of female admins though like you pointed out. Team Rocket has Ariana, Aqua has Shelly, Magma has Courney, and Galactic has Jupiter and Mars. |
I disliked it how Plasma's higher ups were all guys, and the only female members who weren't grunts didn't have much of a role other than to provide us with some backstory...to make up for that I'll like to see GF make a female leader and an all but one all female higher ups. She could be more evil than Ghetsis and less looney.
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