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GFA January 8th, 2013 10:40 AM

I can't play GBA games on it. That is to say I can't play my Emerald cartridge. And screw Nintendo for expecting me to buy a copy of a game I already own in the download store or whatever they're calling it.

Captain Fabio January 8th, 2013 10:42 AM

Yes, it is annoying and that is one reason I created this thread, for opinons like yours! :3

I think they should allow you to download a copy somehow, but that is a completely different matter and a completely different ball game.


Eps January 8th, 2013 10:54 AM

My god! You are moaning so much! You can easily pick up a second hand one for £100/$150 tops if you're actually that poor IRL. We're talking about something that's going to be released in 10 months! Can you not save £10 a month? How do you afford food?

Progress is fantastic! I loved the past games in their time, this is the time of the 3DS!

Twilight-kun January 8th, 2013 11:10 AM

I have a GBA SP for GBA/GBC games (I play Crystal on it mostly), a DS Lite for DS/GBA games (Platinum and Emerald) and a 3DS for 3DS/DS games (Black, Black 2, PMD3D and now X/Y)

I'm all set

Emrald January 8th, 2013 11:11 AM

It would be foolish to think that Pokemon wouldn't have come onto the 3DS. And of course as with all Pokemon games that have been released, Pokemon X and Y will sell like hotcakes.

Captain Fabio January 8th, 2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Eps (Post 7478920)
My god! You are moaning so much! You can easily pick up a second hand one for £100/$150 tops if you're actually that poor IRL. We're talking about something that's going to be released in 10 months! Can you not save £10 a month? How do you afford food?

Progress is fantastic! I loved the past games in their time, this is the time of the 3DS!

I am not moaning, I can easily buy one when I want. ;) The thread is for the discussion over people who can't or don't want to on principle. :3

Also, £10 is a lot of money that some people might not be able to spare. Don't forget, there are many people who aren't as well off as others.


InunoTaishou January 8th, 2013 11:13 AM

I've kinda been wanting to get a ds to play some games for a few weeks now, after seeing this I wanna get a 3ds now even more.... Well played nintendo, well played

Jellicent♀ January 8th, 2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 7477499)

Now, this is a very good point. If you don't have a 3DS already, how many of you are buying the console for this game alone?


...
-raises hand-
Honestly, there haven't been ANY games I've wanted from the 3DS. But what with the new Mystery Dungeon game, AND NO THIS <3, I'm definitely going to get one (that's pink).

So, there ya go, here's on more sale going to the "Save the 3DS Foundation". Yes, it'll be awhile after release until I'll be able to actually afford a 3DS, but I think it'd be well worth it. c':

GFA January 8th, 2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eps (Post 7478920)
My god! You are moaning so much! You can easily pick up a second hand one for £100/$150 tops if you're actually that poor IRL. We're talking about something that's going to be released in 10 months! Can you not save £10 a month? How do you afford food?

It's not so much me being poor as me not seeing it as something that's worth it. $150 for a system I'm only ever going to play Pokemon games on that wont allow me to play the majority of the games I already own? Yeah. No. Not doing it. Plus, I've got other, more important expenses. Like food and college stuff that's going to be hitting me right about when these games come out.

Also, no, I can't save £10 a month, seeing as how I live in the US and all. :P

Melinda January 8th, 2013 11:18 AM

I agree that the release of these games will most likely boost the sales of the 3DS. I can personally say that I will be getting a 3DS just to play this. And by October I will have saved enough money to do so. :D I'm glad they waited until gen VI to put the main series on the 3DS. I don't think B2W2 would have been as popular had they started on the 3DS then.

Rivvon January 8th, 2013 11:20 AM

Today in my Fundamentals of Game Design class, the topic on almost everyone's mind was Pokemon XY. The thing is, some people haven't played Pokemon in a very long time due to not having a DS, or even a GBA. But oddly enough, after being shown the trailer, some of my colleagues said: "I'd get this if I had a 3DS...actually, I'll probably get a 3DS for this game!"

So I really don't think this advancement will stifle the series in any way. Besides, imagine that Game Freak decided to skip the 3DS completely and wait for whatever handheld Nintendo created after that. What would the argument be then? That not everyone has one, and that not everyone can afford one? Then they might as well just stop making games then! Sadly, video games are expensive regardless of platform--PCs aren't always cheap (especially not the high-end ones), mobile devices and tablets are pricey, and then traditional video game systems...video games are always an investment. As sad as it may seem, developers should not feel like they need to keep themselves behind just because everyone isn't able to keep up with the new and changing technology.

GFA January 8th, 2013 11:29 AM

I'm not sure anyone is saying they should restrain themselves. As you said, if they did, there'd be no room for progress. In general, I think this is a good move for Pokemon.

I'm just saying that, personally speaking, it's highly unlikely that I'm going to be following this move.

Whitney's Shaymin January 8th, 2013 11:30 AM

Anyone mad that it's not for regular ds?
 
I wanna know. Is anyone else not able to get a 3ds and thinks it should be for the regular ds? Im mad. Thoughts?

Elite Four Lucian January 8th, 2013 11:31 AM

I think it looks good on the 3DS gives them room to do more and make it more unique. I am a bit disappointed as to how the trainer models look, but I think it will work itself out, we will get used to it. But I am excited!

Captain Fabio January 8th, 2013 11:33 AM

Merged into here as the discussion is covered by this thread.


Syutsu January 8th, 2013 11:37 AM

A lot of people play Pokemon. Most of these fans would do anything to get a new generation of Pokemon, like buy a 3DS for this sole purpose. I see it as a marketing scheme.

SaniOKh January 8th, 2013 11:39 AM

I already have a 3DS, so I'm obviously psyched Gen 6 will be released for 3DS. Besides, 3DS carts hold more data than DS carts, so more room for a bigger and better game.

The DS already hosted two full generations, that's more than the Game Boy Color (Gen 2 and Yellow from Gen 1) , Game Boy Advance (Gen 3) and regular Game Boy (Red and Blue) . It's time to move on to better things.

blue January 8th, 2013 11:46 AM

I think those with 3DS' currently are more hyped for these games than those with not, obviously but we've got 9 months ahead of us to save money or trade-in items in exchange for the 3DS so the majority of those without one has the opportunity to get one before the release.

latioslegends January 8th, 2013 11:54 AM

I remember buying a DS lite just for Pearl and Diamond. I'm sure by October the anticipation will surely jump 3DS sales. The console already has an impressive, and upcoming, roster of titles; from Ocarina of Time to Mario Kart.

But as mentioned by other users, there will be a price drop for sure, especially with the XL version coming along. ;)

Mr. X January 8th, 2013 11:54 AM

I don't see why people are *****ing and moaning about gen 6 being on the 3ds.

Get over it. You were given two generations on the DS, as opposed to the previously established pattern of 1 gen per console.

You know why it's going to be on the 3ds? The same reason gen 2 was on the GBC instead of GB. Same reason why Gen 3 was on the GBA instead of GBC. Same reason why Gen 4 was on the DS instead of GBA. Superior hardware, allowing for a superior game. (Gen 5 is the exception to this, mainly because of the DS's longer lifespan.)

If you don't like the games going to a new system, then stay with what you currently have. We will be enjoying the vastly superior... well... everything, that the newer games have, thanks to the superior hardware in their consoles.

HeidiMoose January 8th, 2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 7477499)

Now, this is a very good point. If you don't have a 3DS already, how many of you are buying the console for this game alone?


I will definitely be saving up so I can get the 3DS for this game. The only handheld games I really even play are Pokemon. I get so much use out of the console just from these games alone that it's worth the investment to me.

Mario The World Champion January 8th, 2013 12:20 PM

I just heard this breaking news. When Ruby and Sapphire were on the Advance, I waited six months to get my hands on the GBA SP before I finally got to play them. I will no doubt get a 3DS just to get the new games. It's their price that I don't like right now. When my birthday comes in June, I hope the price will drop so I can get it for the new Pokemon games.

vapes January 8th, 2013 12:39 PM

Well I think that this game being released will motivate audiences to save up for a 3Ds. And by October, the price will most likely go down a little and more people will buy it, so it's not too much of a problem. I happen to own one currently and it has some pretty good games (too much Mario, but still) I think Pokemon coming to the 3Ds is a welcome edition. Yes, it's been done before with the Gamecube titles and it didn't hold well, but GameFreak's making the games this time, not the other company.

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Originally Posted by Mr. X (Post 7479079)
If you don't like the games going to a new system, then stay with what you currently have. We will be enjoying the vastly superior... well... everything, that the newer games have, thanks to the superior hardware in their consoles.

How do you know it will be "vastly" superior? What if it turns out to be a complete and utter failure, giving it the "worst Pokemon title ever." Just because it's on a more powerful console, doesn't mean that the game itself will be better.
I already own a 3Ds, but I'm going to wait and see what others say about it before I buy it.

Silent Storm January 8th, 2013 12:52 PM

Baffling

I really hate to be that guy, but just what do the people complaining actually play? Is the only game you play Pokemon? Cause I can name 7 good 3DS games right now that could keep you busy till October (maybe even longer). It is just a bad business move to support the DS / keep Pokemon on the DS this year. They need to push the 3DS, as it is their newest handheld. It isn't a handheld running alongside the DS, it is the next evolution of the DS, just like how the GBA was the next evolution of the GB(Color), or the DS the next evolution of the GBA.

Edit - I'd also like to add that supporting the DS at this stage means supporting limited hardware, when there is a superior product out there. By supporting the 3DS now, they are able to move the series forward. The series cannot move forward if it remains on the DS, and I don't know why anyone would prefer that option.

And to answer the question. Nope, it won't kill Pokemon. People will buy this just like how they bought a GBA or DS to play those iterations of the series. Also, if they really wanted to get their money's worth, they should stop being picky and actually see what's out there. There are a lot of games that are accessible.

BlueShellBeast January 8th, 2013 1:01 PM

Honestly, before seeing this, I figured that the 3DS was going to be out of the picture in another year or two. However, now that both Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and the 6th Gen are coming out on the system, I'm going to go grumble about it and buy the system seeing as my DS Lite's bottom screen isn't doing so hot. (and never turn on the 3D feature that would destroy my eyes...)

Deokishisu January 8th, 2013 1:05 PM

The game isn't coming out tomorrow, it's coming out in October. The price of the 3DS will drop into a more affordable range by then.

We transitioned from GB to GBC to GBA to DS just fine, the 3DS will be no different.

Not to mention, the 3DS is so cool guys, you'll be glad you made the purchase.

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If you don't like the games going to a new system, then stay with what you currently have. We will be enjoying the vastly superior... well... everything, that the newer games have, thanks to the superior hardware in their consoles.
If the Pokemon are anything like our Gen 5 "friends" I'm not sure superior is the right word. Though I really like the water starter this time, maybe I can go back to picking it after the Samur-nottonyourlifewillIpickyou fiasco.

Kura January 8th, 2013 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 7477417)
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but with the 3DS being the 'newest' console and some people not being able to afford it, do you think it will hurt the amount of people who can actually play the game?


With the amount of little overpriviledged children with iphones and all that, I doubt this is gonna be a problem. With the Wii U jacked up to like 500+ bucks, the cheaper alternative is definitely the 3DS and it's more likely to be picked up.

Wont hurt sales at all. If anything, this will probably boost 3DS sales.

Mr. X January 8th, 2013 1:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deokishisu (Post 7479267)
If the Pokemon are anything like our Gen 5 "friends" I'm not sure superior is the right word. Though I really like the water starter this time, maybe I can go back to picking it after the Samur-nottonyourlifewillIpickyou fiasco.

By superior, I was referring to the better graphics and additional features made possible with the additional hardware. I'll agree that the gen 5 pokemon designs are ****, but face it. They would be even worse if gen 1 or gen 2 graphics were applied to them.

Tsutarja January 8th, 2013 1:39 PM

I really think the release of Pokémon X and Y is going to spike 3DS sales.. I hope to get a 3DS or 3DS XL sometime this year before the release of the game(s) so that I can enjoy them.

Also, in my opinion, it was time for Pokémon games to be retired from DS releases.. the DS has been used on the games since 2006 (Japan) and 2007 (elsewhere), and the 3DS has been around for nearly 2 years now.

crystalzapdos January 8th, 2013 1:49 PM

Why do people keep freaking out over this? It was fine when the series moved to the GBA and it was fine when the series moved to the DS. This will be no different.

Firework. January 8th, 2013 1:58 PM

No. This happens almost every generation. From the gameboy to the gameboy color to the gameboy advance to the nintendo ds to the nintendo 3ds. it's happened before and each generation has been pretty successful, so i don't see why that would change now.

Mama-Mamo January 8th, 2013 2:01 PM

If the Pokemon franchise doesn't take advantage of the 3DS, their competition will. Other franchises such as Mario for example will have moved on to the 3DS leaving Pokemon in the dust. Even if they wanted to stay, it would only be holding the company back.

Ammako January 8th, 2013 2:20 PM

I don't even understand how you got to that conclusion.

Nintendofox3d January 8th, 2013 2:32 PM

No because it's coming in October, so, that's around the holiday season, so it'll be okay.
Animal Crossing and Pokemon X and Y will boost up 3ds sales ALOT

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 2:37 PM

So seeing as we Generally Get 1 Generation Per Handheld Nintendo Console

we Can either Expect the Following

A Successor to the 3DS Within the Next 2-3 Years
or
7th Generation on 3DS (And this Wouldn't be that bad seeing as though it would definitely be in 100% 3D Like 6th Gen is)


EDIT: The Main Reason I Got a 3DS Was Because I Knew that Eventually a new Generation of Pokemon would be Released for it. That and my DS is Basically ****ed (It works... But its like extremely damaged)

Autaven January 8th, 2013 2:41 PM

I do have a 3DS XL (got it for Christmas) so I'm quite happy the new generation is for this, though I'm not surprised at all. I couldn't see it ever being for the DS.
I'm pretty sure that if I didn't have one though, I would probably buy one for just for this. Love the series and I doubt I could stop myself.

Lugia16 January 8th, 2013 3:07 PM

Im glad i already have a 3ds but I will buy an XL if they bundle it with X or Y.

Oryx January 8th, 2013 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GFA (Post 7478864)
I can't play GBA games on it. That is to say I can't play my Emerald cartridge. And screw Nintendo for expecting me to buy a copy of a game I already own in the download store or whatever they're calling it.

What game systems let you play two generations back? PS3s don't. Wiis don't. 360 doesn't even have 2 generations back so not really a good example. DS can't play GBC games. Why would you assume the 3DS should be GBA compatible?

masaru3 January 8th, 2013 3:12 PM

I think that this "evolution" is inevitable. As much as I love pokémon in 2D and 2D sprites, I'm glad pokemon is evolving. I just worry that this game might not be able to deliver every pokémon until now, that would be a major disappointment for me, as I love completing the pokédex. I've filled many pokédexes until now.

If we feel nostalgic we can always go back to playing pokémon Red and Blue. No one's going to stop us :P

voicerocker January 8th, 2013 4:59 PM

Will X and Y being 3DS exclusive kill the Pokemon franchise? Did the Game Boy Color kill it? Did the GBA kill it? Did the Nintendo DS kill it? The answer to all these questions and the one asked in this thread are the same: No.

Pokemon is Nintendo's second biggest title. If anything, X and Y will increase 3DS sales, which last I heard are doing very well. The idea that not many people have a 3DS is invalid now. It's becoming one of the most popular consoles.

Either way, if you choose not to move on, then don't. Keep your DS, but it's officially a dead system. There will be no more major games released for it, and very few minor games at all. The 3DS isn't going anywhere. Why anyone would have thought Nintendo would just give up on it and go back to using the DS is beyond me.

X and Y will do just what Silver and Gold, Ruby and Sapphire, Diamond and Pearl, and Black and White did: sell tons of copies worldwide.

Syncai January 8th, 2013 5:08 PM

I upset that I just can't afford a 3DS right now, but hopefully I'll be able to grab hold of one (if not a cheaper pre-owned one) before X and Y come out.

I'm not mad though, I'm glad Nintendo have decided to try something new with pokemon, who knows where the 3D will go in the future. Hell, what if we end up with a full on sandbox pokemon game?! Look where the gameboy colour and advance took the games, imagine what is yet to come?

Captain Gizmo January 8th, 2013 5:13 PM

It's going to be released in October 2013. That gives more than enough time for people and kids to ask for a 3DS for their birthday (or the Pokemon game if they already got a 3DS) and Pokemon X and Pokemon Y for their christmas present.

Mr. X January 8th, 2013 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7479710)
What game systems let you play two generations back? PS3s don't. Wiis don't. 360 doesn't even have 2 generations back so not really a good example. DS can't play GBC games. Why would you assume the 3DS should be GBA compatible?

I'd say PC's do, but they aren't really game systems.

Then again most of the 'game systems' have slowly turned into multimedia systems, which a PC can be considered.

Meganium January 8th, 2013 5:21 PM

Now that the next Pokemon game will be on the 3DS exclusively, I think there's time for those who don't have a 3DS (like myself) to save up money towards the release date of the games. Like someone said in this thread (forgot who, sorry!), there's a possibility that the 3DS (albeit the regular one, and not the XL) will be at a cheaper price, not to mention, there might be bundles.

Highly doubt people will turn away from the 3DS. With Pokemon finally on the 3DS, I'm sure a lot of fans will be buying it like hot bread.

Platinum Lucario January 8th, 2013 6:42 PM

Nah, pretty much most people own a 3DS by now. I already have a 3DS, and I'd be assuming most people here would have a 3DS.

Well... OK, maybe not most people, maybe some still have a DSi or DSi XL, but sooner or later the DSi will no longer be sold anyways. So therefore expecting people to buy a Nintendo 3DS instead if they're looking for a Nintendo handheld device.

But I highly doubt it would prevent people from going and buying the new games, 'cause it's going to encourage more people to buy a Nintendo 3DS so they can play the games, then everyone will think "WOW, THESE ARE THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE". xD

I'm so amazed by the games that I felt like watching the trailer over and over and over again. So I'm definitely not avoiding Pokémon X and Y, in fact... I'm buying both of them. :P

jellotime91 January 8th, 2013 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver (Post 7480559)
...sooner or later the DSi will no longer be sold anyways.

Nintendo still sells the DS Lite at Wal-Mart for $140.

Don't count on them discontinuing obsolete hardware. I hate that they still sell the old hardware, because it definitely confuses people who are trying to buy the latest DS as a gift for their kids.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire January 8th, 2013 7:18 PM

Anyway, you'll be able to pick up a 3DS very cheaply by October, I've seen a few around for $160, which shouldn't be too much for most folks. 3DS's are gonna be flying out the door by October, a very smart move on Nintendo's part.

Deceit January 8th, 2013 7:19 PM

Honestly, even though I'm planning to get a 3DS because of this, I think it matters on how well GF sells X and Y. Obviously, to sell a game they have to make it look good, but to get people to buy the console makes the person think a bit. Is it really worth it? I know many people are still hung up about how pokemon is so different now, and all the generation V pokemon suck compared to the first few generations. Now there is already a new generation for those people to complain about. And because of this, GF will really have to make it look fun, or at least this is what I think. But then again, there are those pokemon crazy people, like some of us, that will get the game regardless of the console.

PikachuAddict January 8th, 2013 7:37 PM

I'm definitely saving up to get a 3DS, as well as get the game. The 3D battling would be enough to make it worth it for me.

C Payne January 8th, 2013 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7480658)
Nintendo still sells the DS Lite at Wal-Mart for $140.

Don't count on them discontinuing obsolete hardware. I hate that they still sell the old hardware, because it definitely confuses people who are trying to buy the latest DS as a gift for their kids.

Where on earth are you getting your prices from, haha?(excuse me if you are in a different country but that is kind of ridiculous for the U.S.) DSi's are ~ $100 while the XLs are ~ $130 at the Walmart here, so why would a retailer sell the Ds Lite for $10 more than the XL version of the superior remodel?


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Originally Posted by Deceit (Post 7480687)
Honestly, even though I'm planning to get a 3DS because of this, I think it matters on how well GF sells X and Y. Obviously, to sell a game they have to make it look good, but to get people to buy the console makes the person think a bit. Is it really worth it? I know many people are still hung up about how pokemon is so different now, and all the generation V pokemon suck compared to the first few generations. Now there is already a new generation for those people to complain about. And because of this, GF will really have to make it look fun, or at least this is what I think. But then again, there are those pokemon crazy people, like some of us, that will get the game regardless of the console.

As has been said before, there are TONS of variations on animals such as spiders, dogs, birds, etc. in the real world so why should pokemon be limited to say having only one fox or one this/that? Yes, some may seem uninspiring but there are also those who look like a pretty great variation on a type of animal we already have some of and it makes the whole Poke world look more diverse.

I have to agree that those who only complain about future generation pokemon and go back to the whole 'gen *number* is where it went downhill' just have their nostalgia glasses on a bit tight. It's one thing to not like specific pokemon, but considering a whole region-and-onward's pokemon trash? Pretty harsh...

WingedDragon January 8th, 2013 8:27 PM

I think all the Ds are compatible with 3ds games you just dont have the 3D ability. Im glad I have my 3DS tho

Munchlax11 January 8th, 2013 8:41 PM

3DS Exclusive - RIP Pokemon?
 
I'm going to buy a 3DS because of these games. X and Y are the basically the sole reason I'm buying one.

DelphinusVyse January 8th, 2013 8:46 PM

You also have several months before it comes out. Even a kid on a modest allowance should be able to save the required cash in time for release day. As for me, this certainly tips the scale on me pulling the trigger and snagging a shiny new 3DS XL.

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Originally Posted by AdrianD (Post 7480881)
I think all the Ds are compatible with 3ds games you just dont have the 3D ability. Im glad I have my 3DS tho

Nope, totally different hardware. DS and 3DS games are NOT compatible. If they were, I'd surely be playing Mario Kart 7 and such on my DSI by now.

Cerberus87 January 8th, 2013 9:02 PM

These games have made me excited enough to actually want a 3DS. Not to mention there are a few nifty games for the 3DS like Zelda Ocarina of Time, Star Fox, and of course Mario...

Damn, I'm really thinking about getting one, should I...? :D

Anyway, back in the old days, Crystal was a GBC exclusive. That didn't stop people from buying it, although Crystal was one of the lowest-selling third versions...

Altairis January 8th, 2013 9:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Fabio (Post 7477446)

I think if any game can boost and push the 3DS, it would be Pokemon. If I am honest, the announcement of the game and my first views of it, it is making me consider getting a 3DS later down the line for the game.


This. I already have a 3DS, but with the graphics they really went above and beyond and didn't use BW graphics and call them "3D." It really is 3D, looking at the trailers. (hopefully they aren't just funny camera angles like on Skyarrow Bridge!) I wasn't actually excited for the next game, because I assumed that it would be like PMD3's graphics which look mostly clunky, but these are nice!

Xander Olivieri January 8th, 2013 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7480658)
Nintendo still sells the DS Lite at Wal-Mart for $140.

Don't count on them discontinuing obsolete hardware. I hate that they still sell the old hardware, because it definitely confuses people who are trying to buy the latest DS as a gift for their kids.

No they don't. DS lites have been removed from Wal-Mart's sales catalog for a while now. They also wouldn't be $140 when the price of the DSi is $99. DS, DSlite, and DSiXL are all discontinued by Nintendo and most stores were forced to send them back upon being discontinued. The DSi is to be discontinued later this year supposedly. DSlites have been discontinued for almost a year now though. Nintendo is forcing the generation switch for the handhelds.

Yuoaman January 8th, 2013 11:02 PM

The only places I've seen DS Lites are those that sell refurbished consoles, Nintendo's given people more than enough time to come over to the next generation - it was getting a bit ridiculous still releasing major games for the DS.

Ammako January 9th, 2013 12:08 PM

Oh, and also, you are underestimating the Pokémon fanbase.
Sure, many cannot afford a 3DS right now. But they won't just go "oh well, looks like I'll be skipping the 6th gen."
They go "omfgwtfbbq I need a 3DS right now!", save up for a 3DS/ask for one as a gift/etc., then get the game. Because Pokémon.

Zayphora January 9th, 2013 12:13 PM

I will never be able to get a 3DS because my parents think that my DS lite is good enough, so I feel like I've been booted out of the fandom. Business decision? great! But personally I hate it even though it'll make the games a lot better.

SnowpointQuincy January 9th, 2013 12:17 PM

Pokemon has NEVER had a problem jumping to a new console. In fact, Pokemon will be the driving force behind 3DS sales in October.

"But what about the people that can't afford a new console?"

There are 9 regular pokemon games for the DS PLUS a million spin-off games. No sympathy for the people who can't afford the Brand New Games on Release Day. They have more than enough Pokemon games already. Plus the DS has the largest Game Library of any handheld ever, so They got Options.

Guy January 9th, 2013 12:25 PM

It was only a matter of time before Pokémon migrated over onto the 3DS. This isn't a surprise to be honest. They should have done it with B2/W2, or even Black and White, but they held back. This isn't the first time Pokémon has moved onto the next big selling console either. They've done it multiple times before and this isn't going to be the last ─ unless, Nintendo never makes a new handheld and stops at the 3DS, which is very unlikely.

I, myself, have been withholding from getting a 3DS until the right time came to buy one. For me, that time was when GameFreak finally decided to release a main title on the system, which they have - and it looks quite smashing might I add.

I can't buy one right now due to not having the money, but you can bet before October rolls around, I'll be a new owner of a 3DS and Pokémon X/Y.

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Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7482456)
I will never be able to get a 3DS because my parents think that my DS lite is good enough, so I feel like I've been booted out of the fandom. Business decision? great! But personally I hate it even though it'll make the games a lot better.

If you're old enough, I'd recommend it's high time to find a job and save up some money for one. If not, you could always sell some old things you no longer need or use to save up money for a 3DS in time to buy one or both of the new games. Your parents couldn't stop you from getting one then, I'm sure.

roosterman January 9th, 2013 2:42 PM

actually, most people i know just haven't bought the 3DS because the games aren't that great. i'm sure the pokemon fans will be able to get enough money to trade in their DSi and maybe an old pokemon game for a 3DS and pokemon x/y.

Aleux January 9th, 2013 5:46 PM

I really do wish they could release it on the DS versions. I'm not going to get the 3DS just for Pokemon X & Y.

Aquanova January 9th, 2013 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon7991 (Post 7483054)
I really do wish they could release it on the DS versions. I'm not going to get the 3DS just for Pokemon X & Y.

They've dropped the DS officially, it isnt going to happen. Game Freak had to move to the 3DS, they've had to do this for every new system Nintendo makes, if they didnt they would lose money and Nintendo would not support them if they didnt move to the next system. This is just the way it is and how the video game business works.

Yuoaman January 9th, 2013 6:31 PM

Until they start releasing these games for the Game Boy I AM SO DONE WITH NINTENDO.

voicerocker January 9th, 2013 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon7991 (Post 7483054)
I really do wish they could release it on the DS versions. I'm not going to get the 3DS just for Pokemon X & Y.

Then maybe you should try to find some other games you might enjoy!

Personally, I'd recommend Super Mario 3D Land! I've enjoyed playing it for a long time! And the remake of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time would be worth it. And for something Pokemon related, there's always the 3D Pokedex Pro which can also double as a substitute "Snap 2" since you can take pictures of the Pokemon! And of course if you have your Gen 5 games, I'd get the Dream Radar so you can get the Therian Formes as well as use the Gen 4 games to get all 5 Gen 4 mascots.

And remember, most likely there will be more Pokemon games in the future besides just X & Y. Not to mention all the fun extras like the Mii games and stuff that are already on the 3DS. It's well worth the investment.

Lukar115 January 9th, 2013 9:01 PM

The 3DS has been available for close to two years in North America, and considering Diamond / Pearl came out nearly two years after the DS' launch, it's about time a new Pokémon generation arrived on the former. While Nintendo hasn't sold quite as many 3DS units as it did the DS within a similar timeframe, it's still sold a decent amount of them-- at the very least, many people consider it the go-to handheld system rather than the Vita, which is a pretty good accomplishment. Plus, Pokémon itself is a system-seller. I don't think we need to worry about the game not performing well commercially.

Eucliffe January 9th, 2013 9:17 PM

I personally think a 3DS is well worth it, and if you hate the 3D, just turn it off and never use it.

That aside, in my case I have a 3DS so I don't really care that it's 3DS exclusive. However, in the case of everyone else, I can see people having an aversion to it because of the price or, in the case of parents of small children, the fact that the 3D isn't good for them (though, again, they can just turn it off, but little kids sometimes don't know better so Idk), but given how A. there are currently awesome games out for it and more awesome games coming out in the future (X and Y included) and B. there's plenty of time before X's and Y's release so there's a chance the price will drop at least once ('course, how much it'd drop is a different story), and C. it's POKEMON, I doubt it'd be the end.

Jade Espeon January 9th, 2013 9:25 PM

Honestly, I think that people should have the 3DS already. DSi and DSLite are outdated, and have been. They were already obsolete when BW2 came out. I bought my 3DS when I got my tax returns last year and it was the best thing ever.

As far as how many people have the 3DS currently, I would think that TPCi had made this decision based on how many people have downloaded Pokedex 3D in the marketplace. That would give them a sort of head count for how many players HAVE a 3DS.

pikakitten January 9th, 2013 9:26 PM

Although I can't afford a 3DS, I don't think it means the end for pokemon, I think it'll just buy it for pokemon games, especially the new mystery dungeon, looks sexy xD

usami January 9th, 2013 9:53 PM

How can anyone even say this? lol.
It's like saying Ruby and Sapphire being on the GBA would be the end of Pokémon, Diamond and Pearl on the DS etc.

It's the same thing that's happened every time they make the change of handhelds.
If people want the game that bad, they'll buy a 3DS or, more likely, already had one because they knew this was coming eventually.

Azire January 9th, 2013 10:10 PM

I have a 3DS XL. To people saying Pokemon isn't enough of a reason to buy a 3DS, there are other games. I also bought a 3DS XL only for Pokemon. I can play all Gen 4, 5 and soon 6 on it. Worthy buy if you ask me.

Fraot January 9th, 2013 10:17 PM

The DS is way too old. It's older than the XBOX 360, it needs to RIP. Why people is so obsessed with the DS?

It's not like Nintendo is forcing people to use the 3DS. Forcing would be Apple telling people the iPhones prior to the 4S are not gonna be compatible with x thing so they should buy iPhone 5 (every year there's a new iPhone).

KazukoHimura January 9th, 2013 10:28 PM

I already have a 3DS and I agree with some of the first people on the page, It'll only boost 3DS sales. The regular 3DS will most likely go down in price soon, now that the 3DS XL is out. As for the thing about worrying about small children and the 3D part, there's an option to disable it in the parental controls. Only reason I know this is because my mentally challenged sister got a 3DS for Christmas not this past year, but the year before, and I had to disable it from accessing the internet.

ascension7 January 9th, 2013 10:29 PM

This is ridiculous.

DS release: November 24, 2004
Diamond/Pearl: April 22, 2007
882 days

3DS release: March 25, 2011
XY: October 1, 2013 (for calculation purposes, I just used the first)
921 days at least

There's more time than the last system upgrade. It's just stupidity. :)

Also, the 3DS is compatible with Gen 4 and 5, 2 generations backward. The DS is compatible only with one generation backward, Gen 3, and that's on the older models. Mathematically speaking, these games are in a better situation than Diamond/Pearl was with the DS. Was everyone always this horrible when the Pokemon games went to a new system? I'm getting aneurysms reading some of these things I see online. :'(

Queen January 9th, 2013 10:33 PM

Now I have to buy a 3DS xD
Time to save up money...

It was time for Pokemon to enter the next handheld console anyways, it would appeal to the audience more with new 3D features instead of the same features over and over again on DS. They implemented the new camera angles really well in X and Y. Plus, the 3D models used in battle are BRILLIANT, no more pixelated messes like the ones in Black and White.

QuickSilveri January 12th, 2013 1:10 PM

I cant be the only one... :/
 
am I the only one who is disappointed in the fact that the next Pokemon game is not compatible with the DS Lite?
Granted, 3D tech is not possible (per say) on the Lite, but I would think that they would wait until the 3DS was a little cheaper to put out such a popular game with such exclusiveness. (oh wait...) i hate money..

blue January 12th, 2013 1:25 PM

This was bound to happen sooner or later, the DS System has been around for 7 years now so I think it's definitely time we changed.

The DS also had two generations under its belt which is more than any other handheld console, I don't know why people think we should stick to the DS when we've had a perfectly working and fresh new handheld releases for 2 years, even longer for Game Freak in terms of the development kit. The only way it was going to ever stay on the DS for a year longer would have been if they decided to remake Ruby & Sapphire before X & Y which would have been a bad move on their part.

Pokemon is one of their best selling Franchise, not only will it sell on the 3DS but it will also boost the sales of the 3DS handheld too. I can understand why people would be irritated that they didn't stick these games on the Nintendo DS but think about it... why would they? The 3DS is the current console, it has so much more to offer and ultimately, the games are far better off on the 3DS.

Sabrewulf238 January 12th, 2013 1:29 PM

You're not the only one, in fact you're not the only one right now either.

This sort of thing has happened before in the pokemon series, technology evolves and the series evolves along with it.

Zeturic January 12th, 2013 1:31 PM

No - you're definitely not the only one. I've seen tons and tons of people complaining about this.

But, honestly - the 3DS has already been out for almost two years. That's more than enough time to allow customers to buy one. Obviously, the switch was going to made sooner or later - technology keeps moving forward, so, eventually hardware has to get upgraded.

SLITCX January 12th, 2013 1:31 PM

I'm pretty sure that Gamestop will be offering the DS trade-in for the 3DS as well for a lower price, which I will partake in when Pokemon X and Y are released.

Vehks January 12th, 2013 1:38 PM

We all knew this was coming, we knew that at sometime we would have to buy a 3DS at some point. I mean the 3DS already had a price drop (just shortly after I bought mine :(... ) We've had close to 2 years to pick one up and you STILL have until October to save up for one. I mean come on, Let it go.

The DS had it's time and had an awesome run, but it's time to retire it.

Captain Gizmo January 12th, 2013 1:39 PM

I can't say that I was surprised at all. It was bound to happen and for how long will they keep stretching on releasing Pokemon games for the Nintendo 3D. It was obviously bound to happen.

So am I disappointing? Disappointed as in, me having to buy a 3DS, yes. Since I gotta waste around 169$ to get one.
But disappointed that the game will be on 3DS? No. I think it's a wise choice.

droomph January 12th, 2013 1:41 PM

And as I'm sure they've already said, GF had a chance to test it out, with the "enhanced capabilities" BW2 had for the 3DS, i'm sure it's not that hard to use a "page hits" kinda thing every time you used one of those features.

And seeing as they are making this for the 3DS, I'm sure it was a successssss.

Vehks January 12th, 2013 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LilJz1234 (Post 7489073)
I can't say that I was surprised at all. It was bound to happen and for how long will they keep stretching on releasing Pokemon games for the Nintendo 3D. It was obviously bound to happen.

So am I disappointing? Disappointed as in, me having to buy a 3DS, yes. Since I gotta waste around 169$ to get one.
But disappointed that the game will be on 3DS? No. I think it's a wise choice.

Hey, don't complain. I had to pay $250 for mine... Granted the Ambassador program was nice, but still.

droomph January 12th, 2013 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vehks (Post 7489089)
Hey, don't complain. I had to pay $250 for mine... Granted the Ambassador program was nice, but still.

I'm sure that's part of why they waited so long.

The DS when I bought Diamond (a year late, mind you) was $150, and with the game it was $170.

And now, disregarding inflation and all that, the consoles are around $170 and the games $40. I'm sure that's why they waited so long - marketability. No kid's shelling out $300 for a game that they'll play for a week - even though $210 is still a lot, it's a long shot towards being more affordable.

Vehks January 12th, 2013 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by droomph (Post 7489117)
I'm sure that's part of why they waited so long.

The DS when I bought Diamond (a year late, mind you) was $150, and with the game it was $170.

And now, disregarding inflation and all that, the consoles are around $170 and the games $40. I'm sure that's why they waited so long - marketability. No kid's shelling out $300 for a game that they'll play for a week - even though $210 is still a lot, it's a long shot towards being more affordable.

Yeah, but that was when it first came out, it got it's price drop very shortly after, hence they made the ambassador program for those early adopters. $169 is a hell of a good price. There is no reason not to get one now, especially with the XL. That's why I don't understand why there are still people right now that are acting surprised they will have to upgrade.

Great price, better hardware, and a decent number of good games available for it right now. Come on, what more do you want?

droomph January 12th, 2013 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vehks (Post 7489132)
Yeah, but that was when it first came out, it got it's price drop very shortly after, hence they mad ethe ambassador program. $169 is a hell of a good price, there is no reason not to get one now, especially with the XL, That's why I don't understand why there are still people right now that are acting surprised they will have to upgrade.

Great price, better hardware, and a decent number of good games available for it right now. Come on, what more do you want?

That's my point, though.

Old habits die hard, I guess.

Cinnabar January 12th, 2013 2:11 PM

I've always bought a desired console the day it came out, so I have no problem with it, but yes, I could see why people would get upset over this, but in Nintendo's defense, it has been out for almost 2 years.

C Payne January 12th, 2013 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinnabar (Post 7489141)
I've always bought a desired console the day it came out, so I have no problem with it, but yes, I could see why people would get upset over this, but in Nintendo's defense, it has been out for almost 2 years.

...and several months shy of 3 by the time the games are out on top of that.

Miss Anne Thrope January 12th, 2013 5:10 PM

My brother is buying a 3DS entirely because the new Pokemon X and Y are going to be on it.

I don't think it will lose any audience. It's true a lot of people can't afford the 3DS right now, the the used ones will keep getting cheaper and cheaper and people will buy them eventually.

Cordelia January 12th, 2013 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Anne Thrope (Post 7489364)
My brother is buying a 3DS entirely because the new Pokemon X and Y are going to be on it.

I don't think it will lose any audience. It's true a lot of people can't afford the 3DS right now, the the used ones will keep getting cheaper and cheaper and people will buy them eventually.

That's the whole reason I'm getting a 3DS. The rest is just icing on the cake.

The_Consumer January 12th, 2013 6:11 PM

Although I think the games will have a major impact on the general series, I do agree in essence with the idea that a fully 3D Pomemon world on a new handheld console would be successful. I haven't used my DS since 2011, and only recently have for a Pokemon Emerald replay. I'm anticipating the release and I am looking forward to seeing more news as it comes along.

Guy January 12th, 2013 6:47 PM

With nine months before the games are released, there's plenty of time for people who can't purchase a 3DS now to buy it at some time down the road before the games are out. Besides the point, there's no deadline that says the only chance you have at buying the games are on release day.

The sheer fact that these games are the first main title Pokémon games in 3D and on the 3DS will rise interest and likely boost sales of the 3DS as many have already said. I, myself, already mentioned that I'm finally going to buy a 3DS just to get these games.

soopaord January 12th, 2013 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LMFAO. Word up. (Post 7477498)
For me they will lose tons of sales from this, A massive majority of sales for BW2 came from the standard DS buyers rather than 3DS users.

Lose tons of sales? Erryone and their mother has a 3DS now. Just look at the recent JP and US sales.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMFAO. Word up. (Post 7477498)
SO in my opinion pokemon will be laid to rest this year

"Pokemon is on the GBA!, It's finished!"
"Pokemon is now on the DS, It's finished"
etc.. etc...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMFAO. Word up. (Post 7477498)
but that still doesn't excuse the fact they just took a massive crap on standard DS users such as myself.

Why do you want the series to be held back by keeping the series on 7 year old handheld? If anything, this shows how much lack of dedication you have to the franchise.

"muh entitlement for a pogeymang game on 7 year old console."

Xander Olivieri January 12th, 2013 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LMFAO. Word up. (Post 7477498)
For me they will lose tons of sales from this, A massive majority of sales for BW2 came from the standard DS buyers rather than 3DS users. SO in my opinion pokemon will be laid to rest this year, not everyone can afford a 3DS, I know they moved it to the 3ds so that they could make the graphics better and stuff but that still doesn't excuse the fact they just took a massive crap on standard DS users such as myself.

You obviously are not familiar with buying Nintendo Products. They have been doing this for 20 somewhat years. Anyone who knows their company knows as soon as they put a new system out, you have to get it. They usually switch to the new systems within a few months after the release. The DS was a much slower transfer, but "taking a crap on you" when they were transitioning people like you into the 3DS for 2 years is far from the truth.

They actually aren't going to lose any business at all. Sales for the 3DS are steadily increasing and they are supplying less and less of both the older consoles and older games. Many fans of specific series wait until their "want" games are released before getting the consoles. A lot got the 3Ds when Zelda came out. More still when Mario came out. The final push will be with Pokemon unless some other major title appears out of the blue. There are a lot of Pokemon Fans that are getting 3DS now.

I told a few parents about the new games already. They looked up what I told them to see if it were true and came in the next day to buy their kids some 3DS' without the kids even asking for them. Most of my friends have already traded in their DSi's for 3DS' now that the new Pokemon news is out. This is how Nintendo has always worked. This is how they will always work because their fans know how they operate and move with the times.

Bluerang1 January 12th, 2013 7:17 PM

I bought a 3DS because I knew Pokemon would move onto that platform eventually. Also I didn't have a working DS so I decided to get a 3DS so I could even use the Dream Radar. I knew my parents wouldn't get me one so I got a job so I'd be able to get the 3DS XL by the time B2W2 came out. Pokemon is the only game I play. We got Wii last yeah but prior to that I played nothing else. Besides the Wii games are more on the fitness side, I have to video games on that, besides Mario and something else which I never play. SO Pokemon is all I play and I'd be willing, and clearly have, to but a new console to play it on. That's handheld only by the way, unless a home console story is amazing. I just don't like home consoles, they feel time consuming.

Victini January 12th, 2013 7:59 PM

There is great success for the 3DS right now in terms of games.

They've picked up their slack from the first year of release for the 3DS and towards the middle of 2012 they began to release all of the 3DS games they promised a year ago. Now they are out with even more popular games over in Japan, like Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon for the 3DS. The momentum for switching to the 3DS for Nintendo consumers is just beginning, really.

Pokemon X and Y versions are just going to further that roll even further. By no means do I believe that the transition to the 3DS is going to 'end Pokemon'. The 3DS's price now (brand new) is the same as the DS lite's was upon release. Nobody really had any issues getting a hold of those from what I saw. The same goes for the DSi, and that system lost it's ability to play GBA games.

The 3DS can still play DS games alongside it's exclusive games. That alone is enough to help keep it up along the transition being done.

Pokemon X and Y versions are only going to assist this change even further. Just like how Pokemon games have always assisted us into transferring to new systems in the past. And let's be honest here guys, Pokemon is far more popular over there in Japan. No matter what system it's on, I don't think it'll matter. They will find a way to get it just like they always have. So if everyone else is really having that much trouble with this transition (which would boggle me since it never was an issue in the past), then I'm pretty sure Japan's gonna pick up that slack.

It's a sign of the times, maaan. Just gotta roll with it.~

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire January 12th, 2013 8:19 PM

Really, I can't believe that there are people who still think the games should've been on the Ds...that system is dead already guys. All big title games for that system are gone. Be glad B2W2 were on the DS at least, Iwata wanted them to be on the 3DS but GF wanted to end the generation on the same system.

Lostworld January 12th, 2013 11:28 PM

The 3DS is reasonably priced in NZ and I see no reason not to get one now. I see the DS Lite, what I currently have, as outdated as hell now though it's still going strongly and can't wait for a new console. I'm glad they didn't release the new games on DS as it's about time the franchise moves forward in this direction. We have nine months to save up for it guys - well that's my plan anyway!


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