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I wasn't planning on buying a 3DS until I saw the announcement for X and Y. Who can argue with a 3D Pokemon game? I've been wanting that since I was a kid. So yeah, I'm happy that this is going to be for the 3DS, even though it means I'll have to upgrade from my DS Lite.
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Time to move on my friend. Time to move on. If you live with the too expensive and not worth buying mindset you might as well sell your DS and buy a Gameboy Color or original and Pokemon Red/Green/Blue. |
No way at all. Like everyone has said above these games will only help to boost the 3DS sells. I have talked to a bunch of my friends who do not own a 3DS but now intend to buy one because of this announcement.
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The OP must have gotten into Pokemon during the 4th gen (no offense to him/her, but that's how they make themselves sound; like they've never had to upgrade over the years). This is not the first time Nintendo has made games only for the next gen handheld. It hasn't hurt them before, and I doubt it'll hurt them now. It's only really a pain in the arse for those who already been through multiple iterations of the DS.
RBGY = Gameboy [monochrome + color] GSC = Gameboy [color version preferred for the introduction of shinies, but GF added the stars {like for Red Gyarodos} for those still playing the monochrome GB] SREFRLG = Gameboy Advance Original or SP [GB monochrome + color also compatible] DPPtBWB2W2 = DS Original, XL, DSi, Lite [GBA backwards compatible only for Original w/ slot], 3DS XY = 3DS [DS backwards compatible] ^ See a pattern? It's not going to end until Nintendo declares that they can't push the technology any further. People still bought (and will buy) new systems with every generation. So long as GF doesn't make a Pokemon game that everyone unanimously hates, Pokemon won't die. |
In a word? No.
I went out and bought myself a 3DS XL the day after X and Y were announced. Just so I can play them. $300 really isn't that much in the console department. |
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Yeh, I was asking a hypothetical question. For the record, I have played the games when they first came out. ;D |
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people have bills to pay, and people have families to feed just because you are handed everything doesnt everyone else is, rainy days happen and if you had to choose between spending $200(after taxes and everything because i know most kids dont calculate tax with their purchase) on a 3ds or $200 to fix your car so you can keep your family fed, and a roof over your head, i think most sane people will spend that $200 on their car you have a lot of growing up to do kid if you think like that ON TOPIC: i feel the new pokemon games are not going to sell well, most people dont buy the latest and greatest console for their kids, heck i only got my 3ds because it cost less to buy then a dsi xl was last year(christmas special) and the only game i bought was star fox 64 for nostalgia purposes, and honestly the new pokemon games look really low quality as far as graphics and gameplay went, no high res images, terrible camera angles, and bad animations. the pokemon on the other hand look amazing but thats it really, and even though everything is subject to change, i dont think it will change much from the launch trailer EDIT: wow reading through this thread, it seems there are a lot of spoiled kids here who ever thinks $150 isnt a lot of money is either a spoiled kid, or an adult mooching off someone else let me list out what you can buy for $150 1. a months worth of groceries 2. 2 cheap tires 3. 1-2 months worth of gas 4. replacement exhaust for your car 5. a tablet(which is a ton more useful then a 3ds ever will be) 6. a replacement phone 7. $150 can make or break 1 months rent 8. 4 new brakes pads installed and there is plenty more that i can list but im not going to because it will take to long but you get the idea |
The 3DS has been out for almost two years now, if you think putting aside a couple of bucks a month for two years is too much, then I'd honestly recommend a hobby less expensive than gaming. My family has, for most of my life up to this point, been subsisting on quite a ways down below the poverty line in Canada, and I was able to set aside enough money for a 3DS. This is also not a new phenomena, the original DS was this expensive when the fourth generation came out, and we all remember how absolutely no one paid the money for them and the Pokemon franchise died out, right?
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hell no, not unless they know they can afford it like i said when i bought my 3ds, the reason i bought it was because it was $140 OTD, and a new DSi was $150 OTD, i would have been retarded to pay more for last generations console but then again im a smart consumer who has a little bit of interest in gaming and i know a good deal when i see one now with that said please dont talk to me about expensive hobbies, i just dumped over 1k into my 370z(wet Nos kit with a retune to make sure i dont blow up my engine) last week because i felt like it, but i am also a responsible adult and i make sure i pay my bills and i make sure i have my priorities straight, if my daily driver were to break, i would have used the money i saved up to fix that instead of modifying my car like i said my response is to those little kids who go around saying money is nothing and a game console is cheap because those kids clearly havent lived in the real world |
So you decided you were the perfect person to lecture people on spending money frivolously when you "just dumped over 1k into my 370z(wet Nos kit with a retune to make sure i dont blow up my engine) last week because i felt like it (sic)"?
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I pay my own credit card and half the utlities where I live. 150 is a weeks worth of groceries at best in my house, four adults+ reoccuring guests, not to mention we eat out a lot. I make MAYBE 300 in two weeks, on a good paycheck. I have had to earn everything I own since I was 7, so I have personally saved for every nintendo system and majority of my games on my own. Please do not presume to know what everyone is capable of. I agree that 170 for a game system is not that much nor that hard. I can easily do it on minimum wage and have seen others do the same with less income. I work in a toystore. Since the news of pokemon x and y, i have seen 20 returns od dsi systems for 3ds' so parents will shell out for their kids if they ask for them. As i said before, this is how nintendo has been doing business for 20 + years. Its not going to change, and those that know this just shell out asap. Pokemon won't lose any sales, and if Animal Crossing is anything to go by, they stand to make more than normal projected sales. So no, its realy not that hard. May take a bit of financial manuvering for those who make less than minimum wage/survive on tips, but saving a little on the side of each check in place of immediate recreational spending will allow you to get them within a month or two depending on check size/expendature rate. |
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It's actually kind of ironic that you're preaching about the value of money and your username contains one of California's most iconic zip codes and you just spent over $1k on your sports car. But to each their own. Anyway...
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Also, there's eBay or Amazon available where they can put the DSi up for sale and use that money to help pay for a 3DS. Also, places like GameStop where you could trade it in and cut the price off of purchasing a new handheld. There are ways to help reduce costing expenses if need be. Another thing, no one has to go out and buy a 3DS or these games on release day. There's time to save up little by little for it and it won't be disappearing anytime soon. Pokémon is ultimately a hobby, and one who's played Pokémon for awhile should always be aware that whenever new handheld systems or consoles come out, it's 99.9% guaranteed there will come a time when Pokémon shifts to making games solely for those newer systems. It has happened before, and it'll keep happening again. It's just the way the world of video gaming and technology works. And as for kids yapping about how cheap $150 might be, well, maybe they are lucky and have the money to spare or they have someone who can buy it for them. Eventually, their time comes when they have to learn the importance of budget and the value of money. That's just life. But the 3DS isn't going to kill Pokémon, and I doubt it's going to hurt the franchise very much either. People will buy a 3DS to get the games if they really want them, and if they can't afford it right away, then when they can, they will. |
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i saved up that money over the course of a few months, im tallking to those kids who think money grows on trees,$150 is not cheap but if i wanted to i could blow the extra $600 i have every month on new games and other electronics but instead of doing that i save it in case i run into problems down the line and i dont foolishly spend money, yes it may seem like spending $1k on a car is foolish but i wanted to do it and i did so by saving up my money and not cutting into my finances, just like how you wanted to spend your saved money on a 3ds and you did so if you failed to see that in my post then you probably deserve to live below the poverty line, people are not poor, they just have poor money management Quote:
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same thing with the whole pokemon moving to 3ds, will it stop some people from buying it? yes, will it stop everyone? nope, there are going to be people who will buy their kids games because they want them and they just want to make their kid happy(which i can understand) i personally dont have high hopes for the game, but then again that is just my opinion(all posted in my original response) |
I have friends, who haven't touched a pokemon game since Red and Blue; who went out and bought a 3ds just for the games. I think it'll help sells
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i say people cant manage money well because look at america, the average cell phone bill here is $100, everyone has a smartphone, and i have seen people who say they are always broke and poor yet they can spend $150+/month on 2 cell phones if you actually broke down what you make and what you spend, you will realize there are places that can be saved and there are alot of unnecessary spending |
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I think if you actually got to live the lives of people who live in poverty, you will see that you are... not well informed. There are people that have no money to manage. Or maybe you're just referring to people who do have the money, but claim they don't... as in, you weren't actually referring to poverty, but to middle-class (and above) people with bad spending habits. And my apologies if such is the case. Otherwise, you can think whatever you want. After all, who am I to tell you what to believe? |
I don't think it will be an issue. I'm a prime example that it won't affect sales. I don't have a terrible amount of extra money lying around, I'm a university student who needs to pay for classes and living expenses, but after X and Y were announced on 3DS, I did some creative workarounds like trading in my dsi xl for credit and putting it towards a 3DS. the people complaining about this should have been taking advantage of the 3 week long boxing "week" sales for stores like gamestop, future shop and best buy and bought 3DSes for cheaper or traded in their old games/DSes for more trade value instead of whining.
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luigi90210 and Yuoaman, let's end that discussion on here, as we don't want you two having a personal debate. :P |
Will X & Y be the reason you finally get a 3DS?
With me that is a major possibility.
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No. I got an 3DS well...I don't know why. Everyone said it was cool and I bought it. Every game for the 3DS so far's good. Yeah.
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Bought my 3DS because of Zelda remake, as well as because I know how Nintendoworks. I got mine when it was $250. The new Pokemon games are just icing on the cake for me. As a store clerk, I have seen people start buying 3DS' because of the new games' announcement, so there are people buying 3DS' just because of the new Pokemon games. A lot of them just bought DSi's last Christmas too.
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I got one for Sonic Generations and Zelda 3D.
But, I may have to buy another one, I plan to get both games, and actually try to catch all of the Pokémon. And, I've no one nearby to trade with. forever alone |
Yes actually I bpught it because I knew a generation of pokemon will come in it.
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I have a broken one with I got for my B'day last year. With the upcoming gamed yes I will be replacing it just for pokemon X and Y.
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I actually considering to buy 3DS way before Pokemon X and Y are announced, but the reason I want to buy 3DS is because I know that main Pokemon games sooner or later will be in 3DS.
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I got it when the price had dropped to $170 and the Red version was released. I knew there would be great games coming out for it (including Pokemon).
I think I had StarFox and LoZ: Ocarina of Time 3DS as my first games on it. |
I already got my 3DS for Christmas last year, way before X & Y's announcement.
I do plan to make them be the first 3DS games I play though. |
Perhaps. I've lasted THIS long (2-3 years) without a DS lite after it was killed by me..woops. Damn water !
Now my friend gave me a original Nintendo DS which I can play White and White 2 ! I don't want to spend on a 3DS just to leave it after I complete Pokemon Y, however if they continue to release Pokemon games for the 3DS then it may be worth the investment. |
I've already got a Nintendo 3DS, and nope... since I've had the 3DS much longer than the announcement of Pokémon X and Y, the main reason I got a Nintendo 3DS is because of the hardware itself and the new games, even if there wasn't many at launch day. ;)
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Well, people had 2 years to get a 3ds... It would boost sells for Nintendo in general
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I think this will skyrocket the 3Ds's sales of these games. Pokemon X and Y are talked about with just about EVERY serious Pokemon fan, myself included. I have a buddy who knew about it WEEKS before me. When i looked these games up, i was so excited. I own a 3DS, so that makes me even MORE excited. so yeah, i think serious Pokemon fans will flock to buy a 3DS, even IF it is pre-owned. Especially after that AWESOME trailer. swinging on ropes? = AMAZING!
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Well personally, I'm buying a 3DS entirely so I can play X&Y on it. That might be poor money management on my part but as a very casual gamer (when it comes to the DS it's really just the Pokémon games and the occasional Mario game), I find spending ~€170 to be entirely worth the amount of enjoyment I'll get. Maybe I'm a frivolous spender and the public in general won't find X&Y worth quite as much money as I do, but to echo pretty much everyone in here, I think not only will being 3DS-exclusive not harm X&Y, X&Y being 3DS-exclusive will hugely help the 3DS.
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Unless they're truly god awful and no one wants to have anything to do with them. Then.... <sadface> |
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3DS pokemon game+ cell shading = WIN!
Pokemon X and Y will be successful. Whether or not the "online" options will actually be good this time...I dunno. |
I'll buy one because of Pokémon, but also because of other remakes like Star Fox and Zelda. Emulation is unlikely to appear soon so I'll stop being cheap and just get the real cart instead.
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I don't get it? Was there this much complaining when D/P was announced for DS?
Surely the series won't stay on one console forever, what's the big deal? |
Doubt it!
A lot of people who have played the games since the beginning may have given up on the franchise by now, but I don't think Pokémon will ever die... completely. And, I didn't look at the 3DS as a new handheld at first. Mostly because it kept the 'DS' title from it's predecessor. I think about everyone should know now that the DS is outdated. Some have to get over the fact that the DS is old technology. (i.e. DVDs, PS2, XBOX, etc. etc.) The 3DS took its place, and there's going to be new games that will exclusively be only for the 3DS. If so-and-so can't get over that, then that's their problem. It sucks when you get something to only have that tech replaced, but there's both good and bad sides to it. I'd rather have newer advanced systems versus sticking to the old ones. Sure, even if the old ones weren't so bad. It depends on preference in the end. The 3DS is fairly cheap nowadays compared what it was on release, but I would never go out and buy a new handheld/console solely for one game. |
You know, there will be people who will buy a 3DS specially for Pokemon, cos I did buy a DS for Pokemon.
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Sold 2 3DS XLs and a regular 3DS because of Pokemon X and Y today. One of the purchases remembered me from Christmas cause I told them to get the 3DS instead of the DSi, but they got the DSi anyway. XD
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Just the opposite, it will get people to buy the system, which already has a good library and has some scheduled system sellers (this game included). It won't exclude anyone, it'll just force people to understand that 3DS =/= DS and encourage sales. Heck, it might be the best thing to happen to the 3DS, sales-wise.
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People buying Nintendo 3DS has been on the rise, I know three of my friends that actually own a Nintendo 3DS, pretty much most people are already aware that the Nintendo DS is becoming redundant, and now since Pokémon X and Pokémon Y have been announced, everyone's going to buy it as soon as possible.
I just put a pre-order on Pokémon X and Pokémon Y when I went down to EB Games today. As for the very few people that only have a Nintendo DS or Nintendo DSi can easily trade-in their handheld device along with some of their games for a Nintendo 3DS and even a 3DS game. ;) |
Yes it will! Most of my friends and me do not have a 3ds and thherefore we are all pretty dissapointed. Only 1/3 of people that played on a ds/dsi/dsixl do not have a 3ds meaning a lot of people will not be getting pokemon x and y
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It would boost the sale of the 3DS. Here is the 3DS €157 while the DSiXL is €167 which is awkward but oh well. The 3DS is the third cheapest console here, with the Wii and PSP being cheaper. Also I bet that Nintendo will release a 3DS bundle with Pokemon X and Y. Also a lot of people bought the 3DS for Mario, Zelda or Star Fox and now there comes pokemon on it. I haven't touched my DSi XL since I bought my 3DS unless it was for Trading/Migrading.
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--- Also the 3DS is not as expensive as it was you can pick it up in the UK now for around £110-140. Those prices are when I bought mine 4 months ago so they could be cheaper now. You can get one for under £100 if you buy it "used". I bought my 3DS ice white for £120 new. Still like 9 months left so I am sure it will go down in price again. I think people will be able to transition fine especially since X and Y come out not long before Christmas meaning people could get a 3DS and the game(s) for Christmas. I think Pokemon X and Y will give a huge boost to the 3DS, in fact that is the only reason I have one .^_^. |
Not to also mention that a Nintendo 3DS only costs about $249 here in Australia at a Kmart store, which is much more cheaper than they were when they were first released. I'm pretty sure the Nintendo DS was around $300 when it first got launched in Australia, I can't remember the exact price... but it was somewhere around that much. But also, Dick Smith stores also sell Nintendo 3DS consoles at $230 AUD, which is cheaper than Kmart.
So if consoles are around that price, pretty much most people can actually buy one, the only people that won't buy them are the ones that don't like change or just simply cannot afford one. So either way, Pokémon X and Pokémon Y will become extremely popular and boost the sales of the Nintendo 3DS console, it will make most people really desperately want to buy a Nintendo 3DS and if they don't have enough... I'm sure they will trade in their old games along with their DS or DSi, 'cause a 3DS is indeed backwards compatible with DS games, so why need a Nintendo DSi when the 3DS pretty much has most of those things (except for Flipnote)? |
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I don't think it will affect the franchise at all. Like others have said, I think X & Y being released on the 3DS would increase sales. Seeing as I don't think Nintendo is releasing games for the DS anymore, I think many will move on and even be motivated to buy a 3DS because of the release of these new games. Although the 3DS is quite expensive, people need to realize that if they want to continue playing Nintendo games, they're going to have to move on to the 3DS and more enhanced systems eventually.
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And probably by the time everyone has Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, not many people will have a Nintendo DS or DSi, only the ones that keep their old gaming consoles, like me. xD The Pokémon franchise will become even more popular than ever before! It's never going to end~ |
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3DS sales are likely to gain a boost while the games themselves might see an increase in sales numbers due to the worldwide release. |
(Everything I say will have probably already been stated somewhere in the thread, I haven't read it all)
It is 100% fair, in my opinion, to move onto the 3DS. The DS has had a fantastic run, but as soon as the 3DS was announced 2 years ago now (yes, it's been that long!) you had to see this coming; the end of the DS' life cycle. Pokémon has had two full generations on the DS, it's time to move on. If you're wanting to continue handheld gaming with Nintendo then a 3DS purchase is kind of inevitable. As for the price "issue" well... I don't really think it's an issue at all. They're not as expensive as they used to be (back then they were, like, £220 or equivalent upon release!), and you have until October to start saving some pennies up to get one. I know it's easier for some people than it is for others, but yeah. 10 months (or just under) is quite a long time. And, I know many people will want the games as soon as they come out, but there's always Christmas. Again, I know not everyone does Christmas, and maybe the 3DS is more than you'd usually get for Christmas for some of you, but still. There are options. There's pre-owned as well. You can get pretty good deals on pre-owned consoles if you look in the right places. As many people have said, Pokémon being on the 3DS will probably increase 3DS sales, rather than Pokémon losing sales because it's on the 3DS. |
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Many people just aren't used to change, and in my opinion... I think change is a good thing! Since Generation V actually taught me about how some change, no matter how rushed it really is... can be good. ^^ Many people that I know were actually rather surprised to see that Pokémon X and Y are on the Nintendo 3DS. But either way. And so far I have only heard a very few people that have said that Pokémon X and Y on the 3DS would lose popularity, most people especially the ones that I know are actually really excited and can't wait to get the game as soon as possible. I remember showing the trailer to one of my friends, and as soon as she saw it... she was so excited about the games. xD I know one of my friends that may not appreciate the starter Pokémon in Pokémon X and Y, but actually appreciate them better than the ones in Unova. And everyone (including me) think all the starters are adorable. x3 |
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3DS is a great system with some great titles and plenty of upcoming releases that look fantastic and aren't Pokémon. I bought one about two weeks before the first price drop because I wanted the Ambassador games. It was £130 in a Brighton GameStation as "preowned" but unopened, so more or less the same price a new system would have been in some stores AFTER the cut so I guess I was fortunate. I since upgraded to an XL (£150 on eBay about a month after its release) and the system goes everywhere with me, be it for an extended Kid Icarus session, a walk into town for some StreetPass hits or a quick puzzle on Pullblox on my lunchbreak - but I don't play Pokémon DS games on it! That's what the DSi is for.
Sure, the price point may be a bit much for people who don't work full time, but I don't feel the 3DS is particularly expensive for what it is - I've loved every Nintendo handheld I've ever had but somehow this one trumps them all for me. Pokémon in October should really bolster sales, especially in the run up to the holiday season. I think the system's had enough time to get a decent install base anyway so the games should sell well as Pokémon tends to be the definitive handheld title. |
I don't see why it won't.. sooner of later every pokeplayer will buy one, the "DS" is already around for like 8 years and most people here have owned one... in about 5 years most of us will have a 3DS with atleast 5 games, most people are not only going to buy Pokemon there are other games like Mario(kart/bros),LOZ and the other Pokemon games for the people who like them (Ranger/Mystery dungeon) not to mention another gen remake...
for now I don't see a reason for myself to buy one but sooner or later when X/Y are out my heart will scream for it and i'll buy one.. |
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I work in a game store, and there are tons of 3ds out there. The only lack of success is because of the limited library. Now that they are getting some awesome game like pokemon it'll really take off. (also the ds when it came out was $200 and the 3ds is down to about $170 sh and was on sale for $130 over christmas)
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No way. I went out of my way to use my tax return today to pick up a 3ds XL. Definitely worth it because it is so nice. I can play all my other pokemon games(or any other ds games). And I am prepped for October. I really think people will take the same initiative and buy their 3ds ahead of time. SO excited for X and Y!
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No.Why?Of the newer gen consoles,3DS is the cheapest one.In fact,the 3DS costs a bit more than a psp in my country (and when I bought it I paid only 200 euro for a bundle which included SFIV and a case,AND it was eligible for Ambassador,the same cost for a non-bundled wifi vita.Mind you,I found a bundle with LBP for the same price,but I had to buy some extras,whereas the 3DS was complete).As for games,the 3ds has a good lineup of games ,as opposed to the vita (hopefully 2013 will bring new life to the vita).The only minuses for me is 1.damned region lock,2.the games could use more juice from the 3DS (I am sure that games could use a bit more its resources with that battery life) and 3.Lack of second analog stick in even the XL version (wtf that circle pad thingie was only made to milk out more money,I'd trade in my vita for a 3ds xl if the xl version had it implemented)
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Pokemon will make people buy the 3DS, and make it a popular console. Not that many people will be cut off, everyone is going to start buying 3DSes now and people have 9 months until X and Y are released(and it's not like they have to buy it then, they can always get a 3DS and it months or even years later if they want). But I wouldn't say that Pokemon isn't dying. Gold and Silver era was the peak of Pokemon's popularity and it's been going down rather fast since. 3DS won't add any more nails to the coffin though.
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Actually R/B/Y have sold more than Gold and Silver (look it up), and really, we can't even use the argument that the old games sold more simply because Black & White 1 are still pretty fresh and still selling. On topic: No, the 3DS =/= RIP Pokemon. If anything, it's a huge step in the right direction. |
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I beleive this step was necessary seeing how B2W2 practically went to the limits of the DS. |
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i think that rather than having less people playing X and Y, we are gonna hve more people who haven't gotten a 3ds yet buying one, do the 3ds sales will most likely go up
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Honestly, I'm not sure I'll be able to afford a 3DS around the time that X/Y come out. Being a junior in high school, I have more important things to be saving my money for like a car and college. Although I know I'll end up buying one because I NEED X/Y, it won't be for awhile and by then gens 7,8...12 will have probably come out already. Oh well *le exasperated sigh*
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Well I bought a DS just to play Black/White, and I got my 3DS repaired after the top screen cracked after hearing X/Y was being released.
Pokemon is arguably the biggest handheld seller the system has. If people need more convincing there are a fantastic selection of games, both already available, and soon to come. I expect big things from the 3DS and thus in Pokemon in general. It's acually quite affordable when it's all said and done. |
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I doubt it will kill Pokemon. We've already had 9 main series games on the DS and another for the DS would be likely to kill it, imo. I plan to get a 3DS solely for X&Y. I got my DS for Pokemon only, and the same will go for the 3DS. I think if anything, the 3DS will spike in sales with the addition of X&Y. I think it's about time we got a main series game for the 3DS. After all, new 3DS models are sold packaged with B2W2 at stores right now. And I think the price has gone down sufficiently on 3DS models. I was concerned at first when the price was high, but now GameStop has them on sale for only $149 (temporarily) with the regular price of the 3DS XL at $199. Very affordable, in my opinion. Of course, I want a new system IMMEDIATELY, so as soon as I can afford it, I'll probably pick up an XL with a game or two just to pass time until October :P
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You can always ask for a 3DS and Pokémon X (or Y, whichever you prefer) as a birthday gift or Christmas present. While you have to save your money for more important reasons, it doesn't mean someone else couldn't buy it for you as a gift. |
Waaaay back in the day, I got my GBC for Pokémon only. This time, though, I'm getting my 3DS for Pokémon as well as other games. The 3DS is looking pretty good with regards to games.
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Just going by 3DS sales figures, let me just say that it doesn't look good. The problem with the system is a lack of good games (Along with Nintendo's disinterest in innovating, I mean, another "New Super Mario Bros." game?) coupled with a battery life that is just plain atrocious. I mean, the system is selling poorly, most people I know who own them, including myself, rarely, if ever, play them, and honestly, it's really not a great system.
So unless the new games are genuinely the best damn Pokemon games made, it doesn't look good for 'em. |
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Nintendo has no adversaries in the handheld market in this new generation, because the Vita was a flop. It's sweet to watch Sony's spell coming back to bite them, as they took the lead in the home console market with a less powerful but more versatile console (PS1), and now they went for all-out horsepower with the Vita and it backfired horribly, losing badly to the less powerful 3DS. Nintendo might be concerned about the smartphone and tablet market, but seriously, it's the same thing when we compare the PC to home consoles, and I can safely say home consoles have had the upper hand this generation because, among all the multi-platform games, all of those that are available for PC are bugged ports of Xbox 360 versions. The huge market for PC games still hasn't killed consoles, and it won't in the near future, provided MS, Nintendo and Sony play their cards well. I'd say Nintendo has an even bigger lead on the handheld market, because there are no large-budget titles for Android and iOS. If the smartphone and tablet manufacturers can't grasp the hardcore gamer public, they'll never be able to dig deep into the handheld market. |
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First of all, the lack of good games, as you cite, is really just a matter of perspective. What you consider to be good might not be shared by others. For me personally, I spend hours playing Tetris with my 3DS, also OoT, Star Fox and Mario Kart. Those 4 games alone make having the 3DS well worth the money I paid for it. You deriding a "New Super Mario Bros." game is pretty disingenuous considering the Mario Bros. franchise is among the most successful franchises in console gaming history ever! Okay, you're not a fan. We get that. But again, that's your opinion, and your opinion is by no means shared by everyone. Now let's get to this battery life complaint of yours. I travel a lot by public transit. I spend a good hour and a half each day going to and from work. I take my 3DS with me, and play during the entire trip. In 3 days I haven't had to recharge the battery. Sure by the 3rd day it's pretty low, but that's still about 4 and a half hours of constant play, without charging the battery! My old cell phone couldn't even hold a charge for more than 2 days of being in standby mode! If your battery isn't performing to your satisfaction, get another battery. As to your charge that the 3DS is selling poorly, I have to say, you wouldn't know it by the number of systems that the store I work at sell. I work at Walmart and we can barely keep the thing in stock. In fact, I actually had to wait for a new shipment to arrive before I could get mine because we'd sold out, and that was for the new XL version! Poor sellers you say? Hardly. I think it's more likely you've been reading biased articles which cite incomplete or misleading statistics. My prediction: 3DS sales will increase dramatically as a result of the release of Pokemon X and Y. Even if no packaged bundle is offered at the time of release, customers will be buying both the system and the game on release day, and well past it. This based on my experience in the retail industry with past major releases at an electronics retailer (Futureshop, Walmart). |
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Seriously, people have been predicting Nintendo's downfall since the NES era. I actually expected Nintendo to give up during the Gamecube era and do what Sega did, but they came back stronger than ever, helped by their multi-million franchises and an innovative gaming concept (the Wii). In the handheld market, they have never been threatened by anyone and are set to monopolize the market once again if Sony doesn't do anything about the failure of the Vita. |
My opinion is it's just Nintendo's way of saying:
"Hey, the DS-Pokémon era has passed, but the 3D one is only just beginning! The 3DS needs more sales so we're cutting off DS and passing it on to the 3DS! We need the money!" Or something less cheesy and more understandable than that. |
Hmmm the DS is a dead console. No relevant games are planned for the DS or even the DSi in 2013. So it's only natural that the series continues on the 3DS. B2W2 fully exhausted the DS's potential.
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3ds is a failed system imo, they need the popular titles to help it sell well.
only reason im buying 3ds is for pokemon x/y, and there are many others like me. |
I'm appalled some people still can't get over the fact that Gen 6 will be on the 3DS.
Once again, people, read this list and think: didn't Game Freak/The Pokémon Company/whoever is developing these games already throw you a bone? Didn't they already give the DS a second chance?
It blows my mind. I've never heard about people complaining about developers switching to superior hardware before. Before this, all transitions went smoothly, and now suddenly people start accusing the developers and Nintendo of being money grubbers and feeling betrayed... I'm not saying they don't do this for money, because come on, it is a business after all, but seriously people, what changed between then and now? And about 3DS having no games that are worth it... remember that meme a few years back: "PS3 has no games"? I was saying that back then too, now I seriously plan on buying one because there are quite a few games I'm dying to play. It will be the same for the 3DS, just wait and see, and it starts with X/Y. |
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But maybe, just maybe, it's not the games that you're sore about. Maybe it's the system itself, and because the games you are griping about aren't on a system other than the 3DS you stubbornly refuse to touch them, or even acknowledge their existence. |
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He speaks the truth. The 3DS has plenty of interesting, quality titles, we havn't even touched on games Like Kid Icarus: Uprising, Resident Evil Revelations, and games that when it's all said and done, look very compartable to Vita titles, and far outshine any of the Android/Ipod equivalent titles. Pokemon X and Y arn't the 3Ds's only major titles coming soon though either. With planned releases such as Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Fire Emblem X Shin Megumi Tenshi, and Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. The 3DS's Library is growing more competent with almost every release. I mean, sure a few of their more successful titles are remakes, but that's been going on every single other console, handheld or otherwise To bring it full circle to remain on topic, This system will not kill Pokemon, if anything Pokemon will give this system a boost so that developers will make even more amazing games. |
After reading some of the comments here, I must agree with some of you, it is true that the sales of Pokemon might be hert from being 3DS only, but think of it this way, the 3DS was due for a Pokemon duo, judging from the announcement, the 3DS is the only hand held Nintendo's got that could handle this sorta power, and the 3DS is almost dirt cheep right now (in Canada and US, I'm not sure about else where). so who Agrees?
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I can't believe how dumb some people are here. The DS is deader than dead and your still whining about forking out some money for a 3DS?
The 3DS has been selling decently (although in Japan it's selling ridiculously well) well and we only got a seconded generation due to the length of the DS's relevancy. Personally, I would refuse to buy it if was released on the DS. |
My opinion is that Nintendo hasn't really been having the best sales on the 3ds. And since they no the Pokemon is one of the biggest audiences they have, they know some will by it only for X and Y
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first of all the 3ds got a price drop so it isn't expensive (unless $160 is),and pokemon x and y would boost 3ds sales,also the 3ds has been out for two years which is more than enough time to buy it.so no this will not have a bad effect.
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It's time for them to move on to the 3DS. After two generations and their sequels on the DS, moving onto the 3DS just makes sense. It's not like it's different, every generation except the past two have changed systems after each one, so it makes sense we're advancing onwards. If anything it's just going to sell the 3DS even better than it currently is since people will buy it just for Pokémon games.
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Well, in this case, you have to look at it from each individual's perspectives. Sure, there might be people who are able to get a 3Ds, and are more than willing than move on from their own DS, but what about those who are unable to move on? I mean from a financial stand point. Consider this; a person might have a DS and a few pokemon games, but, they have no job, and have no other way to earn themselves money. So, I'm just saying. It might not be all that easy for certain people to get a 3DS to begin with. And even so, I doubt people would buy a 3DS just for one pokemon game, if all of the other 3Ds games don't appeal to them.
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I think the Nintendo 3DS would make an excellent platform for the latest Pokémon games to be in. To be honest... The Nintendo DS is dead in Japan, and is almost dead, and should be dead in the rest of the world. It's practically a dead man walking. Perhaps Pokémon X and Y will be the games that deliver the finishing blow to Nintendo DS, for good... and give Nintendo 3DS the jump-start it desperately needs outside of Japan, perhaps securing Nintendo's position, and their fortunes by proxy, for yet another handheld generation of consoles.
Pokémon by itself is a massive system seller, by the way. Do not underestimate the power of these cuddly Pokémon. |
I am buying the 3ds just for the pokemon game. There has been no reason for me to buy it till now. It is time to move away from the normal DS. It has been out for far too long. Gamers will buy a system just for one game. I have seen it constantly with the 3ds alone.
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With the increase of sales for the 3DS and more desirable game titles being released and upcoming, it gives buyers more incentive to purchase a 3DS for themselves. I still think there's a lot of hype that will come with further promotion that will only help increase these sales of the 3DS and ultimately X and Y come release day. I'm willing to bet new records will be broken come October.
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Oh, Pokemon X and Y being released will certainly boost 3DS sales, not to mention the new 3DS Mystery Dungeon game that's out. I lost my 3DS and was just not going to bother having to buy another one but with two new Pokemon games and the new Animal Crossing, if I can be convinced to buy another one there are certainly a lot more that will buy the console solely for Pokemon.
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