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Urugamosu January 8th, 2013 3:39 AM

Do you think there will be travel between regions?
 
The start of the trailer showed a whole world, bringing some speculation into maybe they added some extra places?

Give your thoughts here!

Aryan143 January 8th, 2013 3:44 AM

No I don't think that it should happen unless they have the game continuing in any other region like G/S/C/HG/SS.

blue January 8th, 2013 3:49 AM

There could be two, but I can't see them returning to an older region i.e Kanto.

Echidna January 8th, 2013 3:55 AM

I sincerely doubt it. (Castiel reference right there)
Honestly, the game's graphics look way too advanced and complicated for them to go through the trouble of mapping a whole second region, especially for a release this early. I can't be sure, but like I said, I sincerely doubt it.

Captain Gizmo January 8th, 2013 5:36 AM

Unless they were already in production of the game now, I don't think we'll be able to go back to the other regions. Maybe this will take place somewhere around Unova? And base it on another city from USA?

giradialkia January 8th, 2013 5:41 AM

I doubt it.

Firstly, if there was going to be two regions in a Pokémon game, I am willing to bet the money I'm saving for a 3DS that they wouldn't make two entirely new regions for the sake of it. There'd be no point.

The whole "returning to past regions" was a trait that I loved in GSC/HGSS, but it's something that will remain exclusive to GSC/HGSS, I think it's safe to say at this stage. Normally saying something like that would depress me, but because B2W2 had the World Tournament, I'm feeling a lot better about a whole new adventure.

With that said, someone brought up the fact that BW was a reboot, we could consider this as the "GSC" to BW. I think that's out the window because of B2W2 though.

Captain Fabio January 8th, 2013 5:43 AM

Well, if you could, this would be the longest Pokemon game in existence! XD

I loved going back in the previous games to the previous worlds and I would love for that to happen in this one.


NG55 January 8th, 2013 7:00 AM

The games ARE called X and Y which are coordinates, so it may be something to do the world. Or it's just references the fact that the game is set in France and the X/Y thin was invented by a French guy.

Pokemon Trainer Ethan January 8th, 2013 7:06 AM

They probably won't If they do I would like to see them go to hoenn of Sinnoh since they already did kanto and johto.

gimmepie January 8th, 2013 7:49 AM

Since this is based on Europe which has a lot of very small countries I think multiple regions is a possibility but that seems like a stretch. I doubt that other regions will be revisited just yet (but I'm guessing we'll have gen 6 R/S/E remakes) .

I think the two are unrelated.

dieter57 January 8th, 2013 8:06 AM

No I do not think there will be multiple regions in these games. Ass far as the whole world being shown, I believe that's more related to the whole global release and announce of the games. They only gen that has supported the traveling between regions is gen II but that's because it shared so much with gen I.

Look at B/W2 for example. We are able to go to the old part of unova like its a different region in a way. Same with gen IV. We unlocked the battle area to the north. All of these act like "another region" for us to explore. You had to explore all of johto in gen II and they just gave us kanto to explore as an extra area.

Correspondence January 8th, 2013 8:13 AM

I highly doubt there will be travelling between regions but there might be a small region like the Sevii Isles in FR/LG.

Palkia January 8th, 2013 9:03 AM

I'll echo what glitchguy said.

Maybe another region based on the British Isles for the postgame. Maybe they could have the battle tower/frontier representing the 02 arena and Big Ben?

Gary0ak January 8th, 2013 9:09 AM

I think it would be cool to see Hoenn. but there is zero chance of that happening

tabor62 January 8th, 2013 9:19 AM

I doubt that there would be an extra region. It would be awesome but I can't see it happening. The only reason Gen II had both Johto and Kanto was because it was a direct sequal taking place in a differnt region.

EdwardsNT January 10th, 2013 11:10 AM

Pokemon X and Y
 
Does anyone else want to see returns of old regions? Like in Gen 2 when you traveled back to Kanto and fought the gym leaders there?

Which region(s) would you most like to see return in the new series and why?

It would be way off according to series, but I wouldn't mind seeing Hoenn return. Would be fun to travel back to Hoenn again!

Captain Fabio January 10th, 2013 11:38 AM

Merged into the existing thread.


Esper January 10th, 2013 11:50 AM

While I don't think we'll be seeing other regions, one or two secret areas that aren't on the map would seem to be in keeping with how the games have been made recently. Most likely some characters from older games will make cameo appearances, too. That's all I'd expect really.

Perico January 10th, 2013 12:05 PM

Not sure if you mean between past regions or between different new regions (still unknown). If the first one, I barely see it. It won't happen.

Between new regions, it might be a good idea but it isn't convincing at all. You know, new region = new Pokémon.

Anyway, neither the one nor the second are going to happen, so... bah xD

Lord Varion January 10th, 2013 12:07 PM

I'd like to see a past generation, but who knows, maybe we'll get somemthing small like Sevii Islands, or something related.

Bounsweet January 10th, 2013 12:31 PM

While it's a cool feature, I've never liked the whole dual region concept. I always get too bored of the game to pursue another region... namely in GSC/HGSS my save files don't typically make it to Kanto or if they do, I only end up getting one or two more badges before getting completely bored.


PeaceDarkAngel January 10th, 2013 12:44 PM

I miss the old regions and would love to see them again. Not sure how'd they'd do it though. It's probably not in this game, but maybe someday... WAY into the future. They'll have a game where they put new pokemon mixed with old pokemon in old regions... Would be odd to see, but cool to play.

Eucliffe January 10th, 2013 12:51 PM

Though traveling to other regions other than from Johto to Kanto is something I've been wanting to see for a long time, I doubt they'd do it this time around. Heck, maybe they could save such up for Pokemon's 20th anniversary or so. Or, if they get that far, their 50th anniversary. Man, would that be something :B

Miss Doronjo January 10th, 2013 12:55 PM

That'd be seriously cool~

If we can visit places like Hoenn again, that'd be awesome. Or maybe you can visit small islands that are 'technically' in different regions?

Well, they haven't done this in a long while, but, it'd be nice to have that blast of nostalgia.

Kura January 10th, 2013 12:57 PM

I honestly doubt it.. but if you could, that'd be amazing <3 I think my fav region is from gen 2 :333 Would be so awesome if you could! Or whheeee Orange Islands!!

vaporeon7 January 10th, 2013 12:59 PM

I don't see why they would do it again tbh. Why would they when they could have two separate games and make twice as much? If they did, I hope it'd be a brand new region though. I want to start Hoenn from the beginning, not at lv55.

Sydian January 10th, 2013 1:07 PM

I doubt it really. Until we know more about the region, like size, location, and such, I don't think it's likely that we can. And even then, I don't see it being possible since I doubt the region is gonna be close to any other ones.

Brendino January 10th, 2013 1:36 PM

The only way I could see us being able to visit multiple regions in this game is if there are multiple smaller regions that combine to make one large one (sort of like states/provinces to a country). I highly doubt will be able to visit any past regions in this game, but who knows what the future holds.

EdwardsNT January 10th, 2013 5:19 PM

I HIGHLY doubt that this will ever happen, but its been a thought of mine for awhile.

I think it would be cool for Nintendo to make one game (say for an anniversary special) or something of the sort, where every region is combined.
You start off in Kanto, move to Johto, then to hoenn, and so on and so forth.
Once you make your move to Johto, you must place all of your gen 1 pokemon into the pc and start fresh with a new starter and everything, and then later down the line are able to pull the gen 1 pokemon out of the pc during your johto journey. The same goes when moving to Hoenn or any other region.

Also, it might be something to think about... the elite 4... we face the elite four everytime, but in the anime they actually have a tournament, would be nice to have a tournament setting for once instead of going right for the elite four and then depending on how well you do in the tournament, you advance to battle the elite four.

Thoughts on any of this?

TheUglyDucklett January 10th, 2013 5:55 PM

It needs to happen; if not in this new game then a different one. I feel as though they could also revisit Orre for the sake of nostalgia. Cipher and Galactic/Plasma/Rocket working together would be cool!

Platinum Lucario January 10th, 2013 6:25 PM

It probably might not happen in Pokémon X and Y, but who knows? I would love to see two new regions, not just one... but two! ^^

It would be so epic traveling to a new region after you've defeated the Champion at the Pokémon League (that is if that was the ending).

pikakitten January 10th, 2013 8:19 PM

I don't think it'll happen since they'd just be continuing plane travel, in a sense but if they do, that'll be amazin! xD At least a small area, like a few towns or something xD

Synerjee January 10th, 2013 8:35 PM

I think that this would be great! I would like for them to make the connection to one of the old regions. Oh oh, how about they skip the possible remaking of the Hoenn games and just join up the new generation's region to Hoenn?? It's a thought! xDD But yeah, whatever happens, I'm cool with it~

BLOOOD-La-ti- January 11th, 2013 12:20 AM

ofc there will be no travel between regions.
Those will probably come in later games.

Ho-Oh January 11th, 2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by synerjee (Post 7485604)
I think that this would be great! I would like for them to make the connection to one of the old regions. Oh oh, how about they skip the possible remaking of the Hoenn games and just join up the new generation's region to Hoenn?? It's a thought! xDD But yeah, whatever happens, I'm cool with it~

I'd like that but I don't think a lot of fans would be into that, given that they want R/S remakes to be just like the originals and perfect in every way, rather than just thrown onto X/Y :(

BrandoSheriff January 11th, 2013 6:21 PM

I've wanted to go to a past region again since G/S/C, it's always nice seeing all the changes that time did to it and having the nostalgia laser blast my face. xD
Since it seems that this region will be far from the others (maybe not), how about travel by plane?

It doesn't have to be full on entire regions, maybe little snippets of one or two that you might have to visit during the story, or a little teaser treat post-game.
(I'm so desperate for visiting past regions that I'll settle for this)

jov0006 January 16th, 2013 2:17 AM

Unova and X/Y region like Kanto and Johto
 
Looking at the Unova region, I noticed that the whole north and east did not have a coast. So could the X/Y region be connected to the Unova like Johto is to Kanto? It would be really cool if we could visit the Unova region and challenge the gym leaders. We dont really have a use for the Mistralton Airport other than the sanctuary despite havig so many planes. So could this be possible?

Polizard January 16th, 2013 2:40 AM

I doubt it will happen but i do have to admit Black and White and Black 2 and White 2 have set them selves up for a multiregion game like they make a massive deal about having an airport, which really does nothing in the first game, its role is expanded in the 2nd game but really it does nothing. But yeah i do think it is possible and i do think there is a chance of it, but in saying that i still doubt it will happen.

Snoopy February 3rd, 2013 9:19 PM

How cool would it be?!
 
How cool would it be if, during the production of Pokemon X and Y, they implemented the Hoenn region into the game? They can make it so that Hoenn was a secret island in the X and Y region and you are now able to access it all over again in 3D, similar to Pokemon Heartgold and Soulsilver, except it wasn't in 3D.

thizzman February 3rd, 2013 9:24 PM

That'd be very cool! (:
I dont personally think they'd do that but it would be nice (:

SnowpointQuincy February 3rd, 2013 10:55 PM

a 3D game is a lot of work. Your better off wishing that RSE gets the XY treatment. The art style looks so good for Pokemon. I'm excited for the future of the games.

Cyclone February 3rd, 2013 11:27 PM

It'll never happen. Hoenn is in Japan somewhere (at least the area it's based off of). X and Y are based off of France.

Also, Hoenn is not like the Sevii Islands added to FR/LG. It's a HUGE area. It would not become a secret area of the game. If anything, it would be accessed after the initial E4 run, and make it a 16 Gym game. For such a thing, they'd likely use Unova even though it meets the same reason I say Hoenn won't happen (Unova is based on New York, again across an ocean) - meaning I think neither will happen.

Cyclone

thizzman February 4th, 2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7523229)
a 3D game is a lot of work. Your better off wishing that RSE gets the XY treatment. The art style looks so good for Pokemon. I'm excited for the future of the games.

Yeah I'd actually much rather a RSE remake with XY treatment. I'd love to replay those games in 3d....

Guy February 4th, 2013 4:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7523250)
It'll never happen. Hoenn is in Japan somewhere (at least the area it's based off of). X and Y are based off of France.

Also, Hoenn is not like the Sevii Islands added to FR/LG. It's a HUGE area. It would not become a secret area of the game. If anything, it would be accessed after the initial E4 run, and make it a 16 Gym game. For such a thing, they'd likely use Unova even though it meets the same reason I say Hoenn won't happen (Unova is based on New York, again across an ocean) - meaning I think neither will happen.

Cyclone

Not that I'm saying it will happen, but with the introduction of airplanes in Gen V, the excuse "it's too far away" doesn't really hold much value today as it once did. There's no real need for the regions to be attached anymore a la Kanto and Johto, not if they have airplanes again that can fly to another region.

I hope the idea of attaching Hoenn to these games doesn't happen though. Like many RSE fans, myself included, I would much prefer a remake for Ruby and Sapphire or even Emerald so it can reach its full potential. Slapping it onto X and Y would leave much to be desired in my opinion. Same goes for any other region.

I would rather they do something like the Sevii Islands, but much more interesting.

blue February 4th, 2013 5:07 AM

Nah, unless they decide to have Airplane travel then a trip from Europe to Japan is off the table. I'd much prefer Hoenn to be tied in with Ruby & Sapphire Remakes so you can explore it in full whilst going along with the storyline of RSE that way you can experience Hoenn in a 3D feel with the nostalgia. Adding Hoenn to X & Y would be nowhere near as good as full blown remakes IMO. We could get a completely new region added on to the current region of X & Y but as far as returning to an older region goes, I don't see it happening.

Sabrewulf238 February 4th, 2013 10:07 AM

There's only one way I can see there being travel to other regions and that's if they add new regions as DLC.

No way there will be more than one region at launch.

Cordelia February 4th, 2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7477429)
I reckon it showed the whole world to simply demonstrate that it's the Pokémon series' first worldwide release.

I mean, we've only had 3 other generations before with no other regions featured.

Or this game could be the POKéMON EUROPE WORLD TOUR.

I think that meant exactly what you said in the first sentence. Of course, I'd love to see them having different parts of Europe... that'd be amazing! We'll see how it is... but my gut tells me that they won't change too much from their basic formula.

Vei February 4th, 2013 12:38 PM

Oh my God. If they make it so you cant travel to Hoenn it will be sooo awesome. I loved that feature about HG/SS, so if they bring it back I will be overjoyed.

Cyclone February 4th, 2013 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7523808)
There's only one way I can see there being travel to other regions and that's if they add new regions as DLC.

No way there will be more than one region at launch.

This would actually work very well. Add a region and its group of Gyms and hardcode each region's badge case into the game for if the region is bought and downloaded. It would kill the need for remakes entirely and allow them to also add bonus areas and items (like the event exclusive items from the past), thus giving players a chance to complete the Dex entirely without having to import (trade mebbe, but not import).

Release each new region for exploration every three months mebbe. And develop Gen. VII right away.

Cyclone

Sabrewulf238 February 4th, 2013 2:02 PM

The only thing I don't like about dlc regions is the possibility that they wouldn't have any storyline or story npcs (rival, evil team) to go with it and that they would just be thrown together hastily.

Hopefully they would have a new main storyline to go through if they did have dlc regions though.

Ho-Oh February 5th, 2013 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7524034)
The only thing I don't like about dlc regions is the possibility that they wouldn't have any storyline or story npcs (rival, evil team) to go with it and that they would just be thrown together hastily.

Hopefully they would have a new main storyline to go through if they did have dlc regions though.

Yeah that'd definitely be sucky. I also doubt that too, given that it'd involve so much extra time to put together these whole other regions. :(

Mark Kamill February 5th, 2013 7:59 AM

I would really like a past region to appear. Why? Think about it for a second. The games are running on a new engine, and are based in a world where the game has everything properly big or small. To give us a feel of what this new look for the games translates to in terms of other regions, they would give us something like Kanto as an example. Or better yet Unova, to hopefully tie this region up with it.

SaniOKh February 5th, 2013 9:57 AM

Regions as DLC could work. I remain doubtful though.

Recreating an entire region that was primarily mapped in 2D in the 3D format will be much harder than porting maps from RBY to GSC. Creating 2D and 3D maps requires a different approach, for instance, when all buildings face south, it looks OK in a 2D game, but in a 3D game it looks awkward (imagine walking through Saffron City in 3D: on every street, you have doors on the right and nothing but walls on the left... that's not good) . They'll have to at least remap all the cities and create region-specific textures. And then remix all the music (if it's just to get rid of the excessively used trumpets from Gen 3 or the poorly synthesized guitars from Gen 4) . And then, of course, write a decent extension to the game's script so that the region isn't as bland as Kanto in GSC... looks like too much hassle, really.

Cyclone February 5th, 2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7524034)
The only thing I don't like about dlc regions is the possibility that they wouldn't have any storyline or story npcs (rival, evil team) to go with it and that they would just be thrown together hastily.

Hopefully they would have a new main storyline to go through if they did have dlc regions though.

Then it would be an entire new game.

Cyclone

Sabrewulf238 February 5th, 2013 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7524997)
Then it would be an entire new game.

Cyclone

I was thinking this. So best case scenario is we either get a new fully fleshed out separate game with an old region or we get a half assed region dlc for our Pokemon XY games.

Having said that, I would be more interested in putting my money forward for a game which added a full region experience to an existing game rather than a new separate title. Firstly it means only having one cartridge but secondly I just think it's more interesting to add to an existing world then create a completely separate world. I mean what's really the point of having your Pokemon XY region over here and your Hoenn remake over here and not be able to just move between both of them?

I figure it probably won't be until the 7th or 8th gen until they get brave enough to start having dlc regions though.

HyperXhydra February 5th, 2013 1:39 PM

There could be a connection between the new region and Unova if they introduce the Original Dragon.

CoolKnightST February 5th, 2013 3:32 PM

It's just clear they are planning an ruby/sapphire remake afther this with maybe acces back to kanto/johto. They nowtest that there remake games where mostly more popular than there new regions. You probaly would agrea that FR/LG and HG/SS where one of the best games out there. They also attempt this with black and white but that seem to fail an bit in my opinion.

Ho-Oh February 5th, 2013 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolKnightST (Post 7525254)
It's just clear they are planning an ruby/sapphire remake afther this with maybe acces back to kanto/johto. They nowtest that there remake games where mostly more popular than there new regions. You probaly would agrea that FR/LG and HG/SS where one of the best games out there. They also attempt this with black and white but that seem to fail an bit in my opinion.

n FR/LG weren't overly popular and from the general fanbase, at the time people preferred R/S/E, iirc. HG/SS were popular, yes, but so was B/W and B2/W2, with the former getting a 30/30 rating (iirc??) and having made over a certain amount of sales in a short time. I can't remember much about it but it was popular. Nevertheless, people would still appreciate extra regions in these games and for them to do it in R/S remakes, too. :3

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Originally Posted by HyperXhydra (Post 7525151)
There could be a connection between the new region and Unova if they introduce the Original Dragon.

Yeah but the only issue is that they're both sooo far away from each other :(

SaniOKh February 6th, 2013 4:16 AM

Seriously, am I the only one who doesn't want any more remakes? As much as I would love to revisit older regions, I'd rather do it in a B2/W2-esque sequel.

One more thing about DLC regions and why I don't think they're happening: I just remembered a picture I've seen on Pokémemes destroying the idea for a Pokémon game with all regions. I don't exactly remember if it was its only point or just one of the many, but here it is: in GSC, you have Kanto, where the Gym leaders are stronger than the Pokémon league. Imagine if you had a third and a fourth region after this, each region having even stronger opponents? I'm not sure the games have a level cap high enough to accommodate all this while keeping it consistently challenging.

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Originally Posted by HyperXhydra (Post 7525151)
There could be a connection between the new region and Unova if they introduce the Original Dragon.

Isn't it supposed not to physically exist anymore? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Reshiram and Zekrom were two halves of the dragon's spirit, and Kyurem was what's left of its body.

Snoopy February 6th, 2013 5:39 AM

Although I'd like for them to create every past region in 3D format (which will be YEARS from now), I'd love for them to at least implement Hoenn into the new region. I also like the idea about regions being released as DLC, something that has never been done before and I can see it working.

Mark Kamill February 6th, 2013 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7525396)
n FR/LG weren't overly popular and from the general fanbase, at the time people preferred R/S/E, iirc. HG/SS were popular, yes, but so was B/W and B2/W2, with the former getting a 30/30 rating (iirc??) and having made over a certain amount of sales in a short time. I can't remember much about it but it was popular. Nevertheless, people would still appreciate extra regions in these games and for them to do it in R/S remakes, too. :3



Yeah but the only issue is that they're both sooo far away from each other :(

It was 40/40 from Famitsu. And who knows how far away Unova is from this new region. If anything, the distance between them would be Sinnoh and Kanto far, but instead of a landmass that's seemingly there, there's an ocean. An ocean that's hopefully crossable.

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Originally Posted by SaniOKh (Post 7525819)
Seriously, am I the only one who doesn't want any more remakes? As much as I would love to revisit older regions, I'd rather do it in a B2/W2-esque sequel.

Nah. An RSE remake would be excellent, as I stated the new feel of the games need to also be expressed in an older region, for things not to be too alien. Which also why I stated at least Unova pops up, to make things a bit more comfortable when it comes to the OW at least.

Quote:

One more thing about DLC regions and why I don't think they're happening: I just remembered a picture I've seen on Pokémemes destroying the idea for a Pokémon game with all regions. I don't exactly remember if it was its only point or just one of the many, but here it is: in GSC, you have Kanto, where the Gym leaders are stronger than the Pokémon league. Imagine if you had a third and a fourth region after this, each region having even stronger opponents? I'm not sure the games have a level cap high enough to accommodate all this while keeping it consistently challenging.
While I completely agree with this, the levels wouldn't be too huge a deal, as the next region can continue from a lower level of the E4 but finish with a higher one, and fluxate like that without being too troublesome. The AI can also improve for the lower leveled gyms, making them as equally challenging.


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Isn't it supposed not to physically exist anymore? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Reshiram and Zekrom were two halves of the dragon's spirit, and Kyurem was what's left of its body.
Technically yes, but the way I seem them going with it, I can see 2 original formes, like the two incomplete ones.

Sabrewulf238 February 6th, 2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SaniOKh (Post 7525819)
One more thing about DLC regions and why I don't think they're happening: I just remembered a picture I've seen on Pokémemes destroying the idea for a Pokémon game with all regions. I don't exactly remember if it was its only point or just one of the many, but here it is: in GSC, you have Kanto, where the Gym leaders are stronger than the Pokémon league. Imagine if you had a third and a fourth region after this, each region having even stronger opponents? I'm not sure the games have a level cap high enough to accommodate all this while keeping it consistently challenging.

This could easily be resolved by treating each region as a pseudo fresh start. Sort of like what Ash does in the anime.

So until you've defeated the elite four for a region you would be forced to leave your old pokemon behind (think customs stopping you at the gate) and would only be able to access them while you're in the old region. (or battling/trading over wifi) Then when you have defeated the elite four of the new region you can use any of your pokemon in the post-story (end game) section of that region.

So each region would have the same levelling curve (lv 5 to lv 70 approx) during the story but as Elendil said the battle A.I could be improved with each region. (among other possibilities to increase difficulty)

It has the benefit of creating a fresh start but keeping everything together in one package.

SaniOKh February 6th, 2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7525896)
Nah. An RSE remake would be excellent, as I stated the new feel of the games need to also be expressed in an older region, for things not to be too alien. Which also why I stated at least Unova pops up, to make things a bit more comfortable when it comes to the OW at least.

A sequel with a new story, but set in the same region could do just that too. Plus, more interesting for those who already played through Gen 3. I would love them to do the same thing to another region they already did to Kanto in GSC and Unova in B2W2: make us go through the region X years later and make us discover all the things that changed since the last visit. Even though Kanto in GSC wasn't that interesting, the fact that you visit it as a different person 3 years later is kinda cool, such approach offers a lot of opportunities in terms of story.

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7525896)
While I completely agree with this, the levels wouldn't be too huge a deal, as the next region can continue from a lower level of the E4 but finish with a higher one, and fluxate like that without being too troublesome. The AI can also improve for the lower leveled gyms, making them as equally challenging.

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7526119)
This could easily be resolved by treating each region as a pseudo fresh start. Sort of like what Ash does in the anime.
[...]
So until you've defeated the elite four for a region you would be forced to leave your old pokemon behind (think customs stopping you at the gate) and would only be able to access them while you're in the old region.
[...]

I prefer the former approach (lower level at the beginning, even higher level at the end) to the latter. Let's just say that what I always though Ash was dumb to leave a perfectly trained team behind every time he went to a new region, I'm too pragmatic to comprehend his reasons for doing that :) . But (sadly for people like me) I have to admit that Sabrewulf238's approach is better for two reasons:
  • Elendil's approach is still technically limited by the level cap
  • This would allow us to basically buy and play DLC in any order, and even skip the ones we don't want.
And since I am one of those foolish people bent on filling the National Dex no matter what, I even get why this as DLC would be better than releasing each region as a new game, it's basically like sharing a Pokédex between multiple games. Could be cool.

Golurks Were Meant to Fly February 6th, 2013 4:35 PM

I honestly doubt there will be travel between regions. Pokemon is a company after all, and remakes as well as new games would bring in more sales than just one set of games. I could potentially see you briefly visiting a region, but only very very briefly. Would be pretty cool though! Actually, what I could realistically see them doing is having a cut scene where you're flying OVER another region, so you get an aerial view of it, but you never touch down on it. Or maybe there would be a scene like in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum(?) where the legendary goes crazy and you see a view of the entire region - except this time it'd be all the regions.

Cyclone February 6th, 2013 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7526119)
This could easily be resolved by treating each region as a pseudo fresh start. Sort of like what Ash does in the anime.

So until you've defeated the elite four for a region you would be forced to leave your old pokemon behind (think customs stopping you at the gate) and would only be able to access them while you're in the old region. (or battling/trading over wifi) Then when you have defeated the elite four of the new region you can use any of your pokemon in the post-story (end game) section of that region.

Keep in mind he occasionally brings in his older Pokémon, though. For instance, Bulbasaur appeared in Hoenn for one episode to greet May's Bulbasaur acquired from the grass Pokémon's habitat (it then returned to Oak to keep the peace in his field). At this point, he did not have all of the badges.

I could go see how many he had, but I'm lazy right now.

Cyclone

Ho-Oh February 6th, 2013 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7526119)
This could easily be resolved by treating each region as a pseudo fresh start. Sort of like what Ash does in the anime.

So until you've defeated the elite four for a region you would be forced to leave your old pokemon behind (think customs stopping you at the gate) and would only be able to access them while you're in the old region. (or battling/trading over wifi) Then when you have defeated the elite four of the new region you can use any of your pokemon in the post-story (end game) section of that region.

So each region would have the same levelling curve (lv 5 to lv 70 approx) during the story but as Elendil said the battle A.I could be improved with each region. (among other possibilities to increase difficulty)

It has the benefit of creating a fresh start but keeping everything together in one package.

I think it'd be way overcomplicated. ;( Having to raise a brand new team again would extend the post-game but it'd just leave the question of "why now, and not generation 7?" basically. :x

Sabrewulf238 February 6th, 2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7526603)
Keep in mind he occasionally brings in his older Pokémon, though. For instance, Bulbasaur appeared in Hoenn for one episode to greet May's Bulbasaur acquired from the grass Pokémon's habitat (it then returned to Oak to keep the peace in his field). At this point, he did not have all of the badges.

I could go see how many he had, but I'm lazy right now.

Cyclone

The point wasn't really about Ash.

jfuze174 February 6th, 2013 11:22 PM

I wouldn't mind multiple regions or the same thing b/w did half the map for main story half for end game

Cyclone February 7th, 2013 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7527017)
The point wasn't really about Ash.

Then why did you bring him up?

Cyclone

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7526119)
This could easily be resolved by treating each region as a pseudo fresh start. Sort of like what Ash does in the anime.

So until you've defeated the elite four for a region you would be forced to leave your old pokemon behind (think customs stopping you at the gate) and would only be able to access them while you're in the old region. (or battling/trading over wifi) Then when you have defeated the elite four of the new region you can use any of your pokemon in the post-story (end game) section of that region.

So each region would have the same levelling curve (lv 5 to lv 70 approx) during the story but as Elendil said the battle A.I could be improved with each region. (among other possibilities to increase difficulty)

It has the benefit of creating a fresh start but keeping everything together in one package.

If they were to make a game with all the regions, I'd like them to do this, but they won't so...
I think it is much better than being able to have access to your other Pokémon, I don't want it to be like G/S/C again where the E4's Pokémon are in the 40s.

Omicron February 7th, 2013 1:39 PM

I highly doubt that there will be travel between regions in X and Y. However I was thinking in the possibility of making remakes for R/S/E and FR/LG, making all regions playable in a 3DS. I see this a little far fetched, but still plausible. What do you guys think?

Hederbomb February 7th, 2013 2:03 PM

PLEASE!!!! Pokemon for me has been becoming to easy/short for me. A nice, long post story would be nice. Possibly team Rocket And Plasma merge?

Cyclone February 7th, 2013 2:07 PM

Someday I hope a compilation of the first few games occurs (as in the Mega Man series, or the Kirby 20th anniversary collection). In this instance, I hope it becomes one continuous game with multiple PCs, and you are able to actually and quite literally "catch 'em all". It would be even more fun to be able to do it without relying on outside help from trading with friends, and to even have special Event Pokémon found within the games (special storyline events exclusive to the games, such as Jirachi coming along in Hoenn and Mew's island becoming available in Yellow - which would be an ideal start - and normal starters occurring in the wild after the final E4 is defeated), but at the same time the game could be a standalone; you can't trade outside of that game.

But yeah, it'll never happen.

Cyclone

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The_CGC (Post 7527695)
PLEASE!!!! Pokemon for me has been becoming to easy/short for me. A nice, long post story would be nice. Possibly team Rocket And Plasma merge?

Hmmm I don't think that'd happen if you could travel to older regions. They'd probably just keep it at one evil team really, imo. And even so we aren't sure that there would necessarily be an evil team if we COULD travel to another region.

PokéZoom February 8th, 2013 12:06 AM

In all honesty, no. I do think the British Isles would be pretty cool to have though.

Cyclone February 8th, 2013 7:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7528345)
Hmmm I don't think that'd happen if you could travel to older regions. They'd probably just keep it at one evil team really, imo. And even so we aren't sure that there would necessarily be an evil team if we COULD travel to another region.

I like the idea of multiple bad guys. They can be scripted to appear in earlier maps to look at different things in other regions while preparing their work, but you may not necessarily know who they are yet. Once you reach the later areas, older evil teams trying to re-glorify themselves can suddenly put in an appearance, like in the anime when Team Rocket confronts Team Aqua or Team Magma.

Cyclone

LazerBlazer22 February 9th, 2013 3:04 AM

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I hope they do, even though they haven't since HG/SS
but we don't have info if they're doing it for x&y though, so hopefully!

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Ho-Oh February 9th, 2013 4:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7528647)
I like the idea of multiple bad guys. They can be scripted to appear in earlier maps to look at different things in other regions while preparing their work, but you may not necessarily know who they are yet. Once you reach the later areas, older evil teams trying to re-glorify themselves can suddenly put in an appearance, like in the anime when Team Rocket confronts Team Aqua or Team Magma.

Cyclone

I guess ya. But if there's another region why would they be based in the region you start in rather than just theirs where they want to take over p much. ;(

Sabrewulf238 February 9th, 2013 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7528647)
I like the idea of multiple bad guys. They can be scripted to appear in earlier maps to look at different things in other regions while preparing their work, but you may not necessarily know who they are yet. Once you reach the later areas, older evil teams trying to re-glorify themselves can suddenly put in an appearance, like in the anime when Team Rocket confronts Team Aqua or Team Magma.

Cyclone

I do too, I would love to see how all the different teams would react to each other. It would be interesting to see if a hierarchy of evil would develop. (some being obviously more evil than others)

The Team Magma/Aqua villains have always been my favourite. I want to see more clashes like this.

On another note I would like to see something like an admin turning to good (kinda like Silver except they're meaner and cruel) or some character who keeps switching loyalties. Morally mysterious characters are always my favourite.

(I don't think N really counts because he was never cruel, just misguided.)

District_Princeton February 16th, 2013 4:20 PM

i hope you can visit the hoenn!

Ho-Oh February 17th, 2013 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by District_Princeton (Post 7541251)
i hope you can visit the hoenn!

Ya most people want that, actually. But really after thinking about it, if Hoenn were included, I'd have thought it'd be one of the first selling points, rather than just a new Eeveelution. :(

Pikapia February 17th, 2013 5:17 AM

Oh god, that would be amazing! You should definitely be able to go back to other regions after you've been there. For example, if you're in Unova and you want to go to Hoenn, there should be a ship, or a plane, or a train to bring you to all regions. Like a different ship/plane/train for each region.

Ho-Oh February 17th, 2013 5:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pikapia (Post 7541982)
Oh god, that would be amazing! You should definitely be able to go back to other regions after you've been there. For example, if you're in Unova and you want to go to Hoenn, there should be a ship, or a plane, or a train to bring you to all regions. Like a different ship/plane/train for each region.

I don't think we'd be able to go to every region. Like imagine how much would go into that and all the other games would seem like they have less value than before imo. ;(

Guy February 17th, 2013 7:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7541988)
I don't think we'd be able to go to every region. Like imagine how much would go into that and all the other games would seem like they have less value than before imo. ;(

Not to mention, the level curb would probably be a mess should every region be included.

While to fans it would be a big selling point, GameFreak is the one who will be losing out the most.

Miss Doronjo February 17th, 2013 7:33 AM

Well, I guess my concern is that travelling to other regions miiiight take emphasis away from this whole new region. Fans can be like, "ohhhh cool a new region!" but then they realize they can explore Hoenn and be like "OMG WE CAN GO TO HOENN! I HOPE TEAM MAGMA AND AQUA ARE ARE HERE" for instance.

Sabrewulf238 February 17th, 2013 8:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7542106)
Well, I guess my concern is that travelling to other regions miiiight take emphasis away from this whole new region. Fans can be like, "ohhhh cool a new region!" but then they realize they can explore Hoenn and be like "OMG WE CAN GO TO HOENN! I HOPE TEAM MAGMA AND AQUA ARE ARE HERE" for instance.

I don't think it would be that bad. I mean most generations have had the option to go to a region other than the newest region.

Heart Gold and Soul Silver didn't take that much emphasis away from Sinnoh. (same goes for Kanto and Hoenn)

Killjoy February 17th, 2013 10:08 AM

There might be a small region simular to how Monico sits around the real France

Guy February 17th, 2013 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7542163)
I don't think it would be that bad. I mean most generations have had the option to go to a region other than the newest region.

Heart Gold and Soul Silver didn't take that much emphasis away from Sinnoh. (same goes for Kanto and Hoenn)

What Miss Doronjo probably means is, having an older region available within X and Y such as how Kanto was in Gold, Silver, and Crystal would remove some of the emphasis from the new region. This wasn't the case between RSE and FRLG or DPPt and HGSS, because they were each separate games from one another that came at a later time.

Liberal Army February 19th, 2013 1:12 PM

I've always been thinking about a game in which you can visit all 5 (6) regions. Short summary: Team Rocket should be the villainous team, because Giovanni got more potentional during his battles in the PWT. Every region has his own Admin. You start as a trainer in Aspertia City and chosse your starter in Nuvema. After defeating Rocket in Unova, you have to travel to Kanto by plane. From there walk to Johto, from Johto to Sinnoh by boat and from Sinnoh to Hoenn by boat ass wel. You have to defeat Rocket Admins in eevery region and the grande finale should be on Mt. silver where you battle Giovanni. The level curve isn't a problem if you just hand over your Pokemon to the regions proffesor.

MarinoKadame February 19th, 2013 2:04 PM

Why not raise the level cap and leveling curve to be able to handle multiple regions ?

blue February 19th, 2013 4:52 PM

Imagine if they did a poll to see which region we could travel too in X & Y out of all of the current ones to date, I know they wouldn't but that would be awesome.

Arlo February 19th, 2013 7:29 PM

I have no idea if there will be travel between regions, but I sure hope not. I want GF to invest every bit of resources - time and budget - into making a region that's the best it can possibly be, with a story that's the best it can possibly be and a pokedex that's the best it can possibly be. I don't want them diverting resources from that for some piddly additional region that they'd almost certainly only do a half-assed job of anyway (like they did with Kanto in GSC/HGSS).

Shadow Libra February 23rd, 2013 2:19 AM

I doubt it if one region is in 3d so would the others be.
If they're making more regions we'd at have to wait a year.

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2013 3:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7546167)
Imagine if they did a poll to see which region we could travel too in X & Y out of all of the current ones to date, I know they wouldn't but that would be awesome.

That'd be interesting but I'm not sure it's too likely to happen, unless the regions are already pre-planned actually. Unless it's small DLC I'm not sure they could bring it in earlier without it having already been programmed that way.

robinjea February 23rd, 2013 5:25 PM

Guys, 3D models already take up MUCH MUCH MUCH space, and adding another region would make the game so big and the game will lag so, in my opinion we can't travel to other regions and as usual it will just be another outbreak of pokemon... -_-

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2013 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by robin22gongon (Post 7551647)
Guys, 3D models already take up MUCH MUCH MUCH space, and adding another region would make the game so big and the game will lag so, in my opinion we can't travel to other regions and as usual it will just be another outbreak of pokemon... -_-

I don't think it'd necessarily lag much, unless it's way over their limit. I'm sure there's a certain limit they intend not to bypass so it doesn't overly lag, meaning that another region, as long as it's not overly done, is possible without lag!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 23rd, 2013 9:17 PM

In that case Johto or Unova would be the best candidates as Sinnoh,Hoenn, and Kanto are fairly large. I think if anything it'll be Unova to Parallel generation 2's trip to Kanto. Maybe if the add the original Dragon they could have it's event there. Yet again if they had Unova in 3D one would ask why they didn't make B2W2 3D, unless they didn't have enough time.

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2013 11:36 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Unova appeared actually! Because really, like you mentioned the parallel point, it's true, it's meant to be like Johto, and Unova seemed to grab a lot of GF's attention so it might be likely.~

Sabrewulf238 February 24th, 2013 2:07 AM

The only problem with going back to Unova is that every Unova pokemon would have to return (apart from maybe some legendaries) or it would be strange. How do you explain half (or more) of Unova's pokemon being replaced by Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh pokemon?

It's not the same as Pokemon Gold/Silver where there was only the pokemon from two regions to consider.

My ideal situation would be that they would sell additional regions as dlc on the eShop for about €10-15. I would only be willing to pay if it included a full experience though. That means new main storyline and post game, evil team, rival, gyms, elite four, additional features and aspects that make each region what it is (if I buy a Sinnoh expansion pack I want to be able to make poffins, if I buy the Hoenn expansion I want to be able to enter all the contests or set up a secret base in a tree, if I buy the Johto expansion I want to be able to enter my pokemon in the Pokeathlon etc)

I wouldn't expect to get a full region for free. I don't think it would be worth their time.

My expectation is that they won't attempt something like this for the 6th gen, but it would be amazing if they did go down an expansion like route.

Iqid Loopz February 24th, 2013 3:11 AM

I can't imagine All the regions, everything in those regions and all that data in one tiny chip, I just can't not in our time.


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