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Pinta77 February 25th, 2013 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iqid Loopz (Post 7554620)

I want a GrimReaper Pokemon. Imagine Lord Death from Soul Eater with a big mofo scythe and Poke-alter the hell out of it.

I thought that was darkrai?

I just hope they are better then last gen.

Xander Olivieri February 25th, 2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7554843)
I really like this idea. I'm just questioning the design and how unappealing that could be, added to fan reception, because they certainly didn't like the ice cream. ;x

Yet the Cherry Pokemon goes completely unnoticed for a whole generation until people start complaining about the ice cream. Most likely its because the Ice Cream is a much better battler than the Cherry. Besides, what's Ice Cream without the Cherry on top? Right?

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555186)
Darkrai was more like the Nightmare Pokemon rather than "grim reaper". I don't think we have a grim reaper Pokemon(unless Duskull/Dusclops count as one?), so that'd be really cool. n_n

Ya Dusknoir is pretty much the Grimreaper Pokemon. He personally shepards lost souls to the after life, like in the one anime episode where he sends some little girl's ghost onward.

Archeops12354 February 26th, 2013 5:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7554722)
Has anyone thought of this idea yet: A Fire/Grass type Chili Pepper. Think about it, chilis are known to be spicy, which fit the nature of Fire types, and it's also a plant.

Woah I love this idea!
I did some research and it turns out a Fire/Grass type only has 2 weaknesses (poison and flying)! Now what would be a good name for it? Hmmm... Oooh, what about Burilli? A cross between burn and chilli! K, here are some stats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hp: 80
Atk: 60
Def: 90
SpAtk: 135
SpDef: 90
Spd: 90

Base stat total: 530

Burilli also has a signature move called Chilli Burn. This is a status move that raises the user's speed to maximum but also burns the user, no matter what type it is or ability it has, although the burn can be stopped by a rawst berry. I got the idea from SuperMario Galaxy 2 - if Yoshi eats a chilli, then he goes red-hot and runs around at super fast speeds! And since this is a chilli itself, I just thought it would be super-fast. Burilli can also learn my favourite grass move - spore (100% accurate hypnosis). Since spore will put the enemy to sleep, Burilli has time to setup and use chilli burn to maximize speed, and then he can sweep!

Ability's, i'm not sure about. Maybe sheer force or blaze, I dunno.

Thanx for the awesome idea, Pinkie-Dawn, I hope you like what I wrote!

AmericanWonderland February 26th, 2013 6:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555449)
Now that I'm back and more awake(hopefully!) I can make more coherent suggestions as to what GF would make! Yay! n_n;

I'm all for more type diversity, so I would first go for that! You already have Ghost/Fire, Ghost/Ice, now it's time for some Ghost/Grass Pokemon! Unsure of what it'd be like, but yeah, it wouldn't be too bad, I'd imagine. Yeah, it'd have more weaknesses than it should(in fact, the typing hurts it more than helps it) but for the sake of type diversity, it helps? n_n;

We acually discussed maybe a scarecrow (an actual straw one, not Cacturne) and that could be a Grass/Ghost. It's typing would hurt it, but there are plenty of other Pokemon whose typing hurts them more than it helps them. Plus, it would be really cool!

Pinkie-Dawn February 26th, 2013 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7555429)
Woah I love this idea!
I did some research and it turns out a Fire/Grass type only has 2 weaknesses (poison and flying)! Now what would be a good name for it? Hmmm... Oooh, what about Burilli? A cross between burn and chilli! K, here are some stats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hp: 80
Atk: 60
Def: 90
SpAtk: 135
SpDef: 90
Spd: 90

Base stat total: 530

Burilli also has a signature move called Chilli Burn. This is a status move that raises the user's speed to maximum but also burns the user, no matter what type it is or ability it has, although the burn can be stopped by a rawst berry. I got the idea from SuperMario Galaxy 2 - if Yoshi eats a chilli, then he goes red-hot and runs around at super fast speeds! And since this is a chilli itself, I just thought it would be super-fast. Burilli can also learn my favourite grass move - spore (100% accurate hypnosis). Since spore will put the enemy to sleep, Burilli has time to setup and use chilli burn to maximize speed, and then he can sweep!

Ability's, i'm not sure about. Maybe sheer force or blaze, I dunno.

Thanx for the awesome idea, Pinkie-Dawn, I hope you like what I wrote!

It's actually three weaknesses, since Grass doesn't resist Rock types.

Iqid Loopz February 26th, 2013 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7555191)
Ya Dusknoir is pretty much the Grimreaper Pokemon. He personally shepards lost souls to the after life, like in the one anime episode where he sends some little girl's ghost onward.

well Dusknoir shepards souls to the after life. I was more like taking Pokemon and Human lives at will with a single touch, and only way to live is to eat the souls of the killed/hunted. And also with a big mofo scythe. Unless taking/literally killing for souls and sheparding is the same

PrimalDialgasaur February 26th, 2013 7:34 AM

I was reading through this, many people said Orca *cough* KYOGRE *cough* they usually don't repeat animal designs especially if after a legendary of that animal came out. I'm all in favor of an actual dolphin Pokemon, water/psychic is a good combo! I'm looking for more horse Pokemon...like maybe a Pegasus form of Rapidash... And how about a couple more dinosaurs? I know Groudon was supposed to be a "T .Rex" but in reality, it's not anything but a monster...thing. There is such a variety of Dinos, it would be awesome! Like raptors, or stegosaurus, or pterosaurs!

PrimalDialgasaur February 26th, 2013 8:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555543)
You have a lot of those as far as fossilized Pokemon are concerned, though! Aerodactyl for instance, as well as Kabutops, and Armaldo, etc etc. They may not be huge, known predators like what we knew in the past(except for Aerodactyl, he's a big meanie), but rest assured that GF has not forgotten to give the prehistoric times some love. XD They usually always do in one way or another.

But none of those are dinosaurs, the only dinosaur fossils we have had so far are Bastiodon (Diceratops) and Rampardos (Pachycephalosaurus) and you may count Tropius as an Apatosaurus. We have had an Archeoptryx (Arceops) and a Pterosaur (Aerodactyl, which is based on the commonly false representation of a Pterodactyl, which in reality, there is no such this as a Pterodactyl, but there is a Pteranodon) and Pterosaurs are not dinosaurs, but prehistoric flying reptiles. I'm talking true be true dinosaurs, like Tyrannosaurus, Stegosaurus, Velociraptor, Brachiosaurus, Parasaurolophus, and many, many other popularized dinosaurs. A Spinosaurid would be an awesome Pokemon! Heck, it looks like one itself (basically a giant, bipedal crocodile with a sail on its back!)

Iqid Loopz February 26th, 2013 9:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PrimalDialgasaur (Post 7555540)
I was reading through this, many people said Orca *cough* KYOGRE *cough* they usually don't repeat animal designs especially if after a legendary of that animal came out. I'm all in favor of an actual dolphin Pokemon, water/psychic is a good combo! I'm looking for more horse Pokemon...like maybe a Pegasus form of Rapidash... And how about a couple more dinosaurs? I know Groudon was supposed to be a "T .Rex" but in reality, it's not anything but a monster...thing. There is such a variety of Dinos, it would be awesome! Like raptors, or stegosaurus, or pterosaurs!

I was thinking of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...but excluding the Men and just leaving the horse. But even what the horses represents is kind of disturbing and violent...

Or a Centaur

PrimalDialgasaur February 26th, 2013 9:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555673)
We might see a few more sea creatures as well as land-dwellers over here, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for something like Rampardos, since GF would technically be like "well, whats the point of creating a T-Rex when that thing is close enough to it???"

But there is a major difference between, the major diff being size and eating habits (carnivore vs herbivore)

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Originally Posted by Iqid Loopz (Post 7555668)
I was thinking of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse...but excluding the Men and just leaving the horse. But even what the horses represents is kind of disturbing and violent...

Or a Centaur

Those would be an awesome new set of legendaries! Maybe Death is Ghost Horse, Pestilence is Poison Horse, War is Fire Horse (has a difference from Rapidash), and Famine is.... Psychic Horse?

Miss Doronjo February 26th, 2013 9:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555697)
You're applying real world concepts to Pokemon though, something no one should ever really do, and I doubt even GF takes this much into consideration. After all, it's a Pokemon game, are kids really going to care what is a carnivore and what is a herbivore in the Pokemon World? Especially since(at least in the games), Pokemon don't really eat each other?

I dunno, some pokemon concepts do relate to the real world, and some pokedex entries do state that pokemon like Fearow and Spearow eat Caterpie. But, I agree that it really shouldn't matter much anyway.

The Undisputed Era February 26th, 2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7555722)
I dunno, some pokemon concepts do relate to the real world, and some pokedex entries do state that pokemon like Fearow and Spearow eat Caterpie. But, I agree that it really shouldn't matter much anyway.

Teaching children real world knowledge is something that shouldn't matter? I find that highly offensive! If a child can learn about how the real world can function from a video game then in my opinion that video game is doing something right.

If you read alot of pokedex entries you find that pokemon do infact each one another, Kabutops' pokedex entry states: A slim and fast swimmer. It slices its prey with its sharp sickles and drinks the body fluids, now if we look at this would you rather a child learn such facts from real life learning? or from a child friendly game designed in my opinion to teach people the importance of treating the animals within the world with respect and dignity and that those animals have there own cycles of lives.

Another pokedex entry this time from Glalie: Glalie has the ability to freely control ice. For example, it can instantly freeze its foe solid. After immobilizing its foe in ice, this Pokémon enjoys eating it in leisurely fashion, if a child read this it would think it's a little weird but it would not see the immediate fear because I came from a game, where as if the child were to see a real life animal slowly eating something else it would not be as interested and would initially be frightened.

Going back to the main thread topic, it is really hard to speculate on the new pokemon that are going to be introduced in this new region as we already have a large number of pokemon which have filled near enough every category within the world as to what they can be only the people at Game Freak can be smart enough to keep a trend going where they can create new pokemon within necessarily making them look like older pokemon, although in some cases such as the generic bird pokemon it is hard to do that because it is extremely difficult to make a standard bird look different in 5 different generations. The only way I see Game Freak getting around problems with repetitive pokemon would be to either bring out new evolutions for pokemon that are only a 1 stage or 2 stage pokemon or to introduce new pokemon types completely which would help with new pokemon concepts.

We have already seen five of the new pokemon to be within the new generations and if we exclude the legendaries for now you are left with the three starter pokemon, these three pokemon do look incredibly like other pokemon from previous generations and I hope that Game Freak doesn't do this with too many pokemon otherwise you could see some trouble they might get from the older and passionate players of the game. Pokemon are to be unique from any other pokemon and even though people complain about pokemon such as Trubbish stating "IT'S JUST A PILE OF TRASH, WHAT A STUPID DESIGN" infact the pokemon Trubbish is a fantastic design, Someone tell me have you seen a pokemon based on trash before? the closest you can think of it the Grimer line which is actually chemical waste, so going from that point any new pokemon which can resemble real world things like Vanillite representing Ice Cream are actually very clever ideas and again bearing in mind that pokemon is a childs game does making new pokemon like Vanillite a necessary thing, all pokemon are based of alot of real world things, Ditto looks like Playdoh, Sandile is a Crocodile, Wingull is a seagull, Murkrow is a standard Crow. So before people judge a few pokemon by what they are in real life, maybe they should think about previous generations and how close they are to real world things.

Making new and exciting pokemon in generation 6 was always going to be a difficult task for Game Freak but you need to understand the amount of talent that company has to have already made over 600+ pokemon and still keep a franchise going strong! We will have to wait and see what the future will look for pokemon and how they're are going to get around the ever shortening list of things they can base pokemon of but I don't think you can be surprised when they give you pokemon which do resemble real world things.

This post may be a little long and I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read it, for example Shawn! but I thought getting my views across may enlighten a few people who are still unsure about what the future of pokemon will bring!


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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7555697)
You're applying real world concepts to Pokemon though, something no one should ever really do, and I doubt even GF takes this much into consideration. After all, it's a Pokemon game, are kids really going to care what is a carnivore and what is a herbivore in the Pokemon World? Especially since(at least in the games), Pokemon don't really eat each other?

Twilight Sky I think you may have derped a little in that point you're trying to make, If we take all Real world concepts out of pokemon, Gravity will be gone, time will be gone and the whole world will never exist, essentially we will be playing a black screen.

Miss Doronjo February 26th, 2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LMFAO. Word up. (Post 7555749)
Teaching children real world knowledge is something that shouldn't matter? I find that highly offensive! If a child can learn about how the real world can function from a video game then in my opinion that video game is doing something right.

If you read alot of pokedex entries you find that pokemon do infact each one another, Kabutops' pokedex entry states: A slim and fast swimmer. It slices its prey with its sharp sickles and drinks the body fluids, now if we look at this would you rather a child learn such facts from real life learning? or from a child friendly game designed in my opinion to teach people the importance of treating the animals within the world with respect and dignity and that those animals have there own cycles of lives.

Another pokedex entry this time from Glalie: Glalie has the ability to freely control ice. For example, it can instantly freeze its foe solid. After immobilizing its foe in ice, this Pokémon enjoys eating it in leisurely fashion, if a child read this it would think it's a little weird but it would not see the immediate fear because I came from a game, where as if the child were to see a real life animal slowly eating something else it would not be as interested and would initially be frightened.

Excuse my poor English here. What I meant to say is, yes of course it's important for them to learn, but, it won't matter all that much for them on a video game, because, like said before, will children properly care for the real-world terminology in pokemon games anyway? Will children necessarily care, or rather -- understand, the biology that older kids understand? I'm just saying, not sure even little kids care about that stuff when playing a pokemon game. It's like how in Mario games, getting all of the stars/beating all of the levels gets more emphasis than beating Bowser, because Bowser's plot just doesn't have much bearing on the actual main points of the game.

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We have already seen five of the new pokemon to be within the new generations and if we exclude the legendaries for now you are left with the three starter pokemon, these three pokemon do look incredibly like other pokemon from previous generations and I hope that Game Freak doesn't do this with too many pokemon otherwise you could see some trouble they might get from the older and passionate players of the game. Pokemon are to be unique from any other pokemon and even though people complain about pokemon such as Trubbish stating "IT'S JUST A PILE OF TRASH, WHAT A STUPID DESIGN" infact the pokemon Trubbish is a fantastic design, Someone tell me have you seen a pokemon based on trash before? the closest you can think of it the Grimer line which is actually chemical waste, so going from that point any new pokemon which can resemble real world things like Vanillite representing Ice Cream are actually very clever ideas and again bearing in mind that pokemon is a childs game does making new pokemon like Vanillite a necessary thing, all pokemon are based of alot of real world things, Ditto looks like Playdoh, Sandile is a Crocodile, Wingull is a seagull, Murkrow is a standard Crow. So before people judge a few pokemon by what they are in real life, maybe they should think about previous generations and how close they are to real world things.

Well yeah, there's nothing really specific on how people you'd define something as "creative". Like, how is a Grimer any less creative than trubbish? That argument has been going on for a while now. It'll be tough speculating about new pokemon, but hey, we have hopes, right?

The Undisputed Era February 26th, 2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7555759)
Excuse my poor English here. What I meant to say is, yes of course it's important for them to learn, but, it won't matter all that much for them on a video game, because, like said before, will children properly care for the real-world terminology in pokemon games anyway? Will children necessarily care, or rather -- understand, the biology that older kids understand? I'm just saying, not sure even little kids care about that stuff when playing a pokemon game. It's like how in Mario games, getting all of the stars/beating all of the levels gets more emphasis than beating Bowser, because Bowser's plot just doesn't have much bearing on the actual main points of the game.




Well yeah, there's nothing really specific on how people you'd define something as "creative". Like, how is a Grimer any less creative than trubbish? That argument has been going on for a while now. It'll be tough speculating about new pokemon, but hey, we have hopes, right?


Although you say that children will not be able to understand the biology of what older people may be able to understand you then take the emphasis away from trying to teach children things that will help them later on in there life, If they read a pokedex entry about a pokemon eating another, that child then may be in a position later on in education where they can draw from that information that they saw within the game and apply it with real world information. Children have brains like sponges it can absorb a huge amount of information and if that information can be learnt early enough from education if will stick with them forever and if getting that information comes from there favourite game as a child then obviously having real world implications within the game is something not only necessary but essential for children.

Going back to the pokemon speculation part, the points I used for pokemon that people dislike was only supposed to be a small points what I was really trying to get across was that people shouldn't be angry or surprised about what pokemon Game Freak are adding even if those pokemon are identical to that of something which exists in the world we live in, adding things in from the real world will help people relate more to the game and they will find it more enjoyable. I am never going to post about "OMFG THE NEW POKEMON WILL BE MAINLY GRASS" but what I will say is that you should expect to see a format similar to the previous generations where certain types will dominate more than others. Being creative isn't about adding a pokemon with 16 arms and 5 legs or a pokemon that can hover and fly at 200 MPH it's about being able to create something that people will look at and say "Okay, I understand where they were going with this"

Xander Olivieri February 26th, 2013 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Iqid Loopz (Post 7555511)
well Dusknoir shepards souls to the after life. I was more like taking Pokemon and Human lives at will with a single touch, and only way to live is to eat the souls of the killed/hunted. And also with a big mofo scythe. Unless taking/literally killing for souls and sheparding is the same

Grim Reaper is an angel that shepards the souls of the dead to where they need to be. Either above for living a virtuous life, or below for living a life full of lies and miss begotten deeds. Grim Reapers cannot kill themselves, they only follow death and collect their quotas. Reapers are Nuetral angels that assist the heavenly bodies and hellish nightmares. Dusknoir fits the role of a Reaper, at least a non-bastardized version of the reaper.

Iqid Loopz February 26th, 2013 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7556190)
And Ash(and not to mention other characters) would be dead from the numerous assaults and thunderbolts that he has taken to the face by his Pikachu and company. :P So not all real-world concepts apply, of course. There's a derp on your part! D<

Also, the electric move "Thunder" throws away logic and real-world concepts out the window. Thunder is a sound not a lightning strike! It should be a sound attack move not a beefed up thunder bolt. Correct me if I'm wrong.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 26th, 2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7555991)
Grim Reaper is an angel that shepards the souls of the dead to where they need to be. Either above for living a virtuous life, or below for living a life full of lies and miss begotten deeds. Grim Reapers cannot kill themselves, they only follow death and collect their quotas. Reapers are Nuetral angels that assist the heavenly bodies and hellish nightmares. Dusknoir fits the role of a Reaper, at least a non-bastardized version of the reaper.

Finally one get's it right, also the only way one can die is when everyone else has died (since without life there can be no death).

No that's right, thunder is the sound, however many games tend to make thunder a electrical attack rather than a sound attack, proably because they mean to say thunder bolt but are too lazy (in Pokemon's case there's already a thunderbolt...) People in real life do the same mistake, it always annoyed me to be honest.

How about a pokemon based on the superfluid state of matter (we got Plasma in Rotom, and in Zekrom and Reshiram)? It can be a sea slug pokemon, hopefully one better than Shellos and evolution.

Kurapika February 27th, 2013 12:31 AM

^Gastrodon is pretty much good!!!

Archeops12354 February 27th, 2013 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7555508)
It's actually three weaknesses, since Grass doesn't resist Rock types.

Whoops sorry I missed that bit out!


*sigh* after what I wrote about Burilli, I REALLY want a chilli pokemon in gen 6. If GF doesn't, then I will have less respect for them...

Munchlax11 February 27th, 2013 3:24 PM

I would be interested in seeing something like a fire ostrich and maybe a steel type goat. I think those would be really cool.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 28th, 2013 8:39 PM

A steel Ram would be cool to see. Or maybe it can be Steel/Psychic or Steel/Electric and physical oriented (allowing it to use a powerful Zen headbutt, and iron tail)

Ho-Oh March 1st, 2013 3:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchlax11 (Post 7557555)
I would be interested in seeing something like a fire ostrich and maybe a steel type goat. I think those would be really cool.

Fire ostrich doesn't seem so crazy actually. I can imagine it with a bad temper, and it might even have Anger Point for every time it gets annoyed!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 1st, 2013 11:59 AM

That would be interesting...so would a Flying/Fighting type! Please GF give me my much desired Flying/Fighting angel or garuda Pokemon.

Xander Olivieri March 1st, 2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7559999)
I want them to confirm that ludvisc evolves into alomomola

That is never going to happen. They aren't related. They were made to not be related, therefore they will never be related. Gamefreak has already said this.


I want more unique Dragon Combinations. More Dragon/Fire and Dragon/Electric other than legendaries. There aren't too many animals I want to see made into Pokemon, but I'd like some toy based Pokemon. Like a top, plushie, or building blocks. With the count reaching 700 my want list is very small as far as new creatures are concerned.

Boilurn March 1st, 2013 2:35 PM

I'd like to see some more Water birds, especially some more bulky ones, since I like the Water/Flying combo. If GameFreak will do it I guess that they might probably base it off a Gannet or a Booby or something else like that.

A steel ram also sounds cool, and I hope something like that will come up in the X and Y series. Maybe it will be able to learn moves like Iron Horn or Bovine Toss.

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7560032)
I want more unique Dragon Combinations.

I wonder, maybe there will be a Dragon-type Fossil Pokemon (In other words a Dragon/Rock type). Now that's an example of the ultimate prehistoric Pokemon! (Might even exist before Arceus was made.)

MarinoKadame March 1st, 2013 3:48 PM

I always liked the fossil pokemons and a Dragon one could be interesting. And we got lot of Water/Rock, some flying and steel and pure Rock. Some combo never been made with rock Like Electric/Rock, Dragon/Rock, Poison/Rock, Ghost/Rock, Ice/Rock and Normal/Rock. I hope they add one of them as fossil because we got enough of those Water/Rock fossils.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 1st, 2013 4:17 PM

Yeah, the type originality of gen 5's fossils disappointed me. I want something more like Hoenn's which had one new combo, and a older one which only another Pokémon had but which wasn't a fossil. Speaking of fossils I wonder if we'll get a "third fossil" like Relicanth (living fossil, and Genesect (re-engineered fossil), or one like Aerodactyl...however they seem to be an odd generations thing so maybe not...

For fossil's I'll like a T-rex Dragon/Rock (ancestor of Larvitar maybe?), and a mammoth (I know it's not from the dinosaur era but it'll be cool to have another mammoth Pokémon) it can be Ice/Rock, that's two new rock combo's ^_^.

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 8:18 PM

I really wanted a pokemon with a **** ton of Hp, but no defences (because of the high Hp, you will get tons of exp when you kill, *cough*, I mean faint it). Ok, statistics time!!!!!!!!!!

Hp: 350
Atk: 5
Def: 1
SpAtk: 5
SpDef: 1
Spd 5

Base stat total: 367
This pokemon's stats do look pathetic, but the point is to make a pokemon that is easy to take down, and you get tons of exp from it. (FYI, the more hp a poke has, the more exp you get when you faint it. Thats why you get loads of exp when you take down an Audino or a Chansey/Blissey)

Miss Doronjo March 1st, 2013 9:08 PM

Hm, that pokemon's statistics kind of reminds me... of a reverse Shuckle. Because you know -- Shuckle has low HP and high Defense and Special Defense, but that pokemon statistics are the other way around~ I'd would be col if it'd give loads of EXP points, or maybe loads of utility moves for battle!

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7560708)
Hm, that pokemon's statistics kind of reminds me... of a reverse Shuckle. Because you know -- Shuckle has low HP and high Defense and Special Defense, but that pokemon statistics are the other way around~ I'd would be col if it'd give loads of EXP points, or maybe loads of utility moves for battle!

Although it could have some decent utility, with that frail of defenses it's not going to survive long, even with that astronomical HP stat. Anything super-effective is either going to KO it or knock it down at least to half HP, so it's almost a waste =/ It'd be cool for grinding purposes, but outside of that I wouldn't see something like this having value or even being implemented.

Miss Doronjo March 1st, 2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7560769)
Another suggestion for a Pokemon!

I don't know what characteristics it should have really, but something that is Grass/Electric should do! It took me a while to figure this one out, but this typing is actually pretty good, competitively! Only has around..4 weakness? Two of which aren't -too- common I think(poison and bug), so I think it should be okay. :3 I can most definitely see it as being more of a special attacker, too~!

The only concern I have with that is that I'd like to think that Electric represents working technology and grass represents nature of some sort, so, they'd be kind of conditioning forces, although, that'd be nice to see! Actually, you've remind me of something speculated long ago; perhaps we'll see pokemon that actually have "mutated genes", in which these pokemon have "contradicted dual types" like a Fire/Water type, a Psychic/Dark type, etc, etc.

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7560775)
The only concern I have with that is that I'd like to think that Electric represents working technology and grass represents nature of some sort, so, they'd be kind of conditioning forces, although, that'd be nice to see! Actually, you've remind me of something speculated long ago; perhaps we'll see pokemon that actually have "mutated genes", in which these pokemon have "contradicted dual types" like a Fire/Water type, a Psychic/Dark type, etc, etc.

I think having that sort of "mutation" or whatever they want to call it would be cool, and it's probably why they haven't had some of these fabled types because they were polar opposites. With the game being based on genetics I can definitely see something like that being possible, and it could be interesting!

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7560743)
Although it could have some decent utility, with that frail of defenses it's not going to survive long, even with that astronomical HP stat. Anything super-effective is either going to KO it or knock it down at least to half HP, so it's almost a waste =/ It'd be cool for grinding purposes, but outside of that I wouldn't see something like this having value or even being implemented.

I know this pokemon is very frail, I didn't want this pokemon to be used in actual battle, I simply wanted a pokemon that would make level-grinding so much easier. My idea was to basically make a giant blob of exp so you could level up your good pokemon much faster.


On the other hand, maybe this pokemon could get a kickass evolution - a super defensive one.
Hooray! Statistics time!

Hp: 290 Ability: Magic Guard
Atk: 10
Def: 135
SpAtk: 10
SpDef: 140
Spd: 5

Base stat total: 590
Looking at it's stats, it's pretty obvious that this pokemon can wall any attack, at the cost of being pathetic offensively. My plan is to make the ultimate annoying pokemon, and if this pokemon has magic guard, then say bye-bye to toxic and will-o-wisp. Have it learn toxic, thunder wave, recover, and your choice of entry hazards (preferably stealth rock - if it can learn it). There you have it, the ultimate annoyer.

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7560792)
I know this pokemon is very frail, I didn't want this pokemon to be used in actual battle, I simply wanted a pokemon that would make level-grinding so much easier. My idea was to basically make a giant blob of exp so you could level up your good pokemon much faster.

But isn't that what Audino is pretty much for right now? I mean I know it has its niche in battling, but it's mostly used solely for grinding as it is. I can see maybe giving the new generation a new version of Audino, but I'd rather just see it get carried over from Unova than make some blob-thing that's totally useless.

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 11:51 PM

I have written this before in a different topic, but I think it was out of place so I decided to copy it down in this thread.

Zlythax. (Poison/Dark)
I thought it was a cool name, it's design sorta looks like a cross between the creature 'venom' from spiderman, and sableye. This creature has a long, furry tongue that hangs out from it's Sableye - like grin. It has blank, soulless blue eyes (like Sylveon), and has long, black scythes that replace it's hands (like Kabutops's blades - except longer and black).
Now it's stats:

Ability: Assassin (Increases the accuracy of OHKO moves, like guillotine, from 30% to 80%)

Hp: 100
Atk: 15
Def: 80
SpAtk: 15
SpDef: 80
Spd: 150

Base stat total: 440

You are probably disappointed with it's attack stats, but when it has the ability 'Assassin', who needs attack? Zlythax can learn ALL the OHKO moves, including a new one called 'Death Slice', a dark type guillotine which is it's signature move.
Since Zlythax has a stunning 150 speed stat, it should OHKO everything in it's path, at least 80% of the time!

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7560862)
I have written this before in a different topic, but I think it was out of place so I decided to copy it down in this thread.

Zlythax. (Poison/Dark)
I thought it was a cool name, it's design sorta looks like a cross between the creature 'venom' from spiderman, and sableye. This creature has a long, furry tongue that hangs out from it's Sableye - like grin. It has blank, soulless blue eyes (like Sylveon), and has long, black scythes that replace it's hands (like Kabutops's blades - except longer and black).
Now it's stats:

Ability: Assassin (Increases the accuracy of OHKO moves, like guillotine, from 30% to 80%)

Hp: 100
Atk: 15
Def: 80
SpAtk: 15
SpDef: 80
Spd: 150

Base stat total: 440

You are probably disappointed with it's attack stats, but when it has the ability 'Assassin', who needs attack? Zlythax can learn ALL the OHKO moves, including a new one called 'Death Slice', a dark type guillotine which is it's signature move.
Since Zlythax has a stunning 150 speed stat, it should OHKO everything in it's path, at least 80% of the time!

That is so ridiculously overpowered that it's definitely never going to happen. If something like this learned Hone Claws, it's OHKO moves would hit 100% of the time. The design is a nice enough concept, but that kind of ability with that speed stat is not going to happen. If you threw a Choice Scarf on it it would be unbeatable outside of extremely lucky misses and if something got the chance to either hit it with a Choice Banded Earthquake or got lucky twice in a row and got an opportunity to set up and get an attack off.

Maybe if that buff was more like a 20% bump up to 50% (which I still don't see happening), with it's HP and Defense stat's it could easily set up a Hone Claws (which it would obviously have with your description) which would just be silly.

Aslan March 2nd, 2013 12:09 AM

I'd like to see various Pokemon introduced in this new generation and from the ones seen so far, I'm looking forward to seeing what all sorts of wonderful creations they can conjure up :3. Right now I would like to see evolutions for some weaker Pokemon such as Farfetch'd just to give it a little boost perhaps stat wise and maybe even a different typing! Although I do understand not every Pokemon can be a strong fighter, they're all special and unique in their own way.

And I'd also really like to see any sort of Pokemon with opposite typings like Grass/Fire, a much better Electric/Ground and the one I would most want to see is a Dark/Psychic, if that sort of Pokemon ever came around I'd definitely use it no matter what <3. Other than that for the longest time I've really wanted Lapras to evolve into something that closer resembles Nessie or the Loch Ness monster.

Lastly, a dolphin-like Pokemon that isn't purely water-type is something I'd also like to see. From memory I don't remember any water/psychic types so yes. And there are so many more sorts of Pokemon I'd like to see in this generation but then I'd waffle on for ages. :B

Archeops12354 March 2nd, 2013 8:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7560867)
That is so ridiculously overpowered that it's definitely never going to happen. If something like this learned Hone Claws, it's OHKO moves would hit 100% of the time. The design is a nice enough concept, but that kind of ability with that speed stat is not going to happen. If you threw a Choice Scarf on it it would be unbeatable outside of extremely lucky misses and if something got the chance to either hit it with a Choice Banded Earthquake or got lucky twice in a row and got an opportunity to set up and get an attack off.

Maybe if that buff was more like a 20% bump up to 50% (which I still don't see happening), with it's HP and Defense stat's it could easily set up a Hone Claws (which it would obviously have with your description) which would just be silly.

FYI the OHKO moves have a fixed accuracy, so the accuracy can't be boosted with hone claws, it's ability changes the fixed accuracy to 70% to make up for its stupidly low attack (I wrote 80% by accident, 80% is TOO DAMN HIGH!). Although I do agree that it's defenses are too high, perhaps change the hp to 80, def to 75, and special def to 70.
Those defenses should make it fair because any ground move would definitely cripple it (if not faint it), and besides we all know how annoyingly inaccurate those 70% moves such as blizzard and thunder are now don't we? 70%? Pfft, more like 50%.
With all honesty, I don't believe its speed stat should be changed one bit, I believe it is fine the way it is. He is a speedy killer, but is screwed if he misses. That doesn't seem too overpowered if you ask me, since his pathetic attack stats restricts him to 70% accurate offensive moves which are still unreliable accuracy.

Kurapika March 2nd, 2013 5:58 PM

50% accuracy for OHKO is already big enough so 80% ?? lol, no thanks!! And, to top it off, you give it such a very good defensive stats and a resisting typing.... No, just no.
Imo, that ability should never be added.

Scarecr0wFixatioN March 2nd, 2013 6:17 PM

A snake pokemon that's competitively viable. Please x.x

Archeops12354 March 2nd, 2013 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurapika (Post 7562127)
50% accuracy for OHKO is already big enough so 80% ?? lol, no thanks!! And, to top it off, you give it such a very good defensive stats and a resisting typing.... No, just no.
Imo, that ability should never be added.


GRRRRRRR, I meant to write down 70%!!!!!!! Anyway, I already changed its defensive stats in my most recent reply:

Hp: 70
Def: 70
SpDef: 65

A good Earthquake should take it out no prob, and besides, 70% accuracy is still unreliable. Heh, thunder and blizzard, we all know how accurate those are! So what if it seems a little overpowered, do you remember Alakazam? Or sandstorm Excadrill? Or Garchomp even? Those pokemon are/were broken, yet they managed to exist in the pokemon games.
Although I do agree that its typing is a bit too much, maybe just a mono dark type would be enough.

Jake♫ March 2nd, 2013 8:30 PM

Alakazam is far from broken, Garchomp isn't broken, and Excadrill can be argued it is (but I still don't think it is). But that's straying away from the point of this thread =P

As for types of Pokémon I'd love to see, I feel like Gen 4 and Gen 5 were lacking on Fire types a lot, so I'd love to see some decent new fire types get introduced!

Scarecr0wFixatioN March 2nd, 2013 9:58 PM

I think a fire/poison type would be pretty neat to see. I have no idea would it would look like, but I hope they do it this gen.

Archeops12354 March 3rd, 2013 3:48 AM

As for types of Pokémon I'd love to see, I feel like Gen 4 and Gen 5 were lacking on Fire types a lot, so I'd love to see some decent new fire types get introduced![/QUOTE]



Well aside from the horrible gen 4 - 5 fire types such as Infernape, Magmortar, Heat Rotom, Heatran, Fire Arceus, Darmanitan, Chandelure, Volcarona, Reshiram, and White Kyurem, I completely agree that GF should make at least decent fire types.

Pinkie-Dawn March 3rd, 2013 6:54 AM

Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Miss Doronjo March 3rd, 2013 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7562781)
Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Yeah, sure it can! In fact, that would be an awesome concept of a pokemon, imo. I'm just not sure if it would have a secondary typing or not.

Ho-Oh March 3rd, 2013 7:29 AM

It'd be fire/light, buuut since light doesn't exist I think it'd only fit fire. XD; Kind of an awesome mon idea tho!

Mujahid March 3rd, 2013 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecr0wFixatioN (Post 7562461)
I think a fire/poison type would be pretty neat to see. I have no idea would it would look like, but I hope they do it this gen.

A Bombardier beetle ! They can make it so it secretes both Acid and Fire. Now, that'll be one scary Pokemon.

Archeops12354 March 4th, 2013 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7562781)
Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Ooooooh a fireworks pokemon! Such a cool idea! :D
Maybe a good name for it would be Blazzaka ('Blaze' and 'Fire Cracker')
You know what time it is ... Statistics time!

Ability: Fuse (After being hit by a fire move, 3 turns later the pokemon will attack the enemy team and faint all the opposing team, the user will faint as well)

Hp: 110
Atk: 70
Def: 100
SpAtk: 70
SpDef: 105
Spd: 55

Base stat total: 500

Zorogami March 4th, 2013 3:37 PM

I have been hoping for a Electric/Fighting Pokemon since like Gen3...
There are so many combinations they havent tried out yet, i think they should make some pokemon
with new mixed typing: like the "mutated" kind, as you guys have been calling it.
I would love to see a fire/water pokemon, but i have no clue what that could look like...

Archeops12354 March 6th, 2013 3:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7564320)
Um...by "faint all the opposing team" do you mean faint all of the Pokemon on that team? @[email protected] That is just...so ridiculously overpowered that it seems unlikely in general that something like this would be used.

I meant fainting all the enemys pokemon that are currently on the field. Besides, it activates 3 turns later (just like perish song), and if Blazzaka faints before the 3 turns have past, then the explosive is deactivated. This problem though is that it could spam detect and protect until the explosive activates, but hey it's just an idea!
I agree that Blazzaka should be a frail, but powerful sweeper. The high defensive stats would probably work better for a bomb/mine pokemon, but not fireworks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7564320)
For me, I'd like an Amoeba-ish Pokemon(that's not Ditto). If the heavy speculation that these games are surrounded on genetics are correct, it would seem likely that something like this p be included, though confusing as to what type it would be. I would assume "Psychic/Poison", but that's just kind of whipping stuff out of nowhere, haha. I mean, I was thinking more like a disease or a germ Pokemon of some sort(which I imagine would just be pure poison), but eh.

Disease pokemon? We already have one - Reuniclus, the cancer pokemon!

Ho-Oh March 6th, 2013 7:08 AM

Oh I was replying to the other thread and I thought of this. Unova was primarily based upon strong physical attackers (I did the maths) - do you think this generation will be based on strong special attackers...? So instead of mass fighting mons we'd get more fire/electric/water, etc.

Miss Doronjo March 6th, 2013 7:33 AM

I was actually hoping for more specially defensive pokemon this time around so that people don't really have to rely on blissey anymore~ But yes, more special attacks is also just as fine!

Ho-Oh March 6th, 2013 7:40 AM

Well iirc Sinnoh had a lot of defensive mons, whereas Hoenn was more physical, maybe? And before that I didn't really notice a pattern, so if it is to follow on it'll probably be special attackinggg. Specially defensive I don't think we need more of, because really, we have enough as it is, whereas more special attackers to dominate would be awesome!

Miss Doronjo March 6th, 2013 7:43 AM

Well, I actually hope that it doesn't pull a Gen 1 where special attackers where dominate. XD But, I just want a balance between offensive and defensive, y'know? The metagame's power creep increased from Unova, so, people found it hard to stall. Well, I don't mind that, buuuut yeah, I just wanted more defensive mons~!

Ho-Oh March 6th, 2013 7:49 AM

Hmm yeah I see why there'd need to be more specially defensive Pokemon but special attacking mons idk, they're usually not like super fast unless they're electric so they can easily be revenge killed imo.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 6th, 2013 9:05 AM

I'm honestly hoping the pokémon of this generation are more balanced in stats like a jack of all trades rather than be glass cannons, mighty glaciers, and fragile speedsters.

Iqid Loopz March 6th, 2013 11:25 AM

I might be flamed for this but it would be interesting if they did a 'Virus', 'Zombie', 'Host', 'Cure' 'Immune' Pokemon cycle type thing.

I really don't know how to explain it but here I go

Host Pokemon are just regular typed Pokemon And can evolve into either Zombie Pokemon by being bit/infected by a Virus Pokemon (Poison?), which only can produced by Zombie Pokemon (Poison/Ghost(Undead)). Or stinged by a Cure Pokemon(Type Unknown) to evolve into a Immune Pokemon (Type Unknown). And The Host Pokemon is the only one that can be infected, no other Pokemon.

The Cure and Virus Pokemon must need a Host Pokemon to evolve into their final Evolution.

I was think a way to get infected by the virus or cure, is by in battle with a WILD Virus or Cure Pokemon. If the Virus Pokemon uses Bite or Cure Pokemon uses sting on the Host. It injects what ever into the Host Pokemon. And after the battle the Host will evolve into the respected Pokemon and the Cure or Virus Pokemon disappears to evolve with the Host Pokemon. Or some sort of way.

Zombies/Virus Pokemon have a speed, defense, attack Bonus during the night, and the reverse deduction in the day. Virus more common appeared at at night Uncommon for Zommbie, But Both rarely appear during the day, in the wild. While Immune/Cure Pokemon have Speed, defense, attack bonus during the day, and vise versa. Wild also goes for the Immune and Cure Pokemon but opposite.

I know it sounds complicated but easy to understand once get it.

Don't kill me for my idea...

Shiny Celebi March 6th, 2013 2:58 PM

Some ideas for Pokemon I have, it's a bit of a long list:
Cardinal-Early route bird?
Peacock
Flamingo
Giant Panda
Hammerhead shark
Narwhal
Toucan
Gargoyle
Griffin
Jack o Lanturn-possibly Grass/Ghost typed
Monarch Butterfly
Squid
Sea Urchin
Dolphin
Swordfish

This is just a list of many ideas I have.

Pinkie-Dawn March 6th, 2013 5:25 PM

Anyone mentioned a sponge Pokemon for Gen VI? Seriously, a Pokemon-style Spongebob parody is way overdue, because we still haven't received a sponge Pokemon.

Archeops12354 March 7th, 2013 2:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi (Post 7568204)
Hammerhead shark
Griffin
Swordfish

Hammerhead shark? What about Dominatou? Cross between dominator (sharks are at the top of ocean food chain), and chuí tóu shā (Chinese for Hammerhead shark). Dominatou could be a physical sweeper, another glass cannon. The pre-evolution of Dominatou could be Chuisha (chuí tóu shā). Water/Dark just like Sharpedo

I like the swordfish idea, why not Swardish (sword and fish). And its evolution could be Barrablade (such a cool name, cross between Barracuda and blade), Barrablade looks like a swordfish with a massive steel blade instead. Either water/fighting or water/steel, probably water/fighting because a swordfish would naturally be an offensive animal, and fighting is much more offensive than steel.

The Griffin idea seems pretty cool, maybe it could be a pseudo legendary. It could have 3 stages (like most pseudo legendaries): Griffy , Griffain, and Griffalix. I'm not sure what its typing should be, Dragon/Flying is so overused, but Fire/Flying would probably be the best choice. Perhaps it could be a bulky pokemon like Tyranitar, instead of a glass cannon.

Kurapika March 7th, 2013 5:58 AM

I wonder what kind of "connected" legendaries and how many we'll have in this Gen. Will they still follow the "trio" thing as usual? hmm...

crehym March 7th, 2013 7:40 AM

I wanna see a Lego pokemon, that would be cool! (not Porygon) I also don't care if new pokes are based on non-living things.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7567639)
Well, I actually hope that it doesn't pull a Gen 1 where special attackers where dominate. XD But, I just want a balance between offensive and defensive, y'know? The metagame's power creep increased from Unova, so, people found it hard to stall. Well, I don't mind that, buuuut yeah, I just wanted more defensive mons~!

This this this this this! I honestly miss being able to run any sort of defensive team because Gen 5 made it pretty much impossible with all of the strong attackers it introduced. As long as we have some more defensive (especially because of all the Fighting types), and I guess some special defensive mons (For like some of the genie trio? I don't know =x) to balance it out it'd be nice!

Archeops12354 March 8th, 2013 1:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7569049)
Except Fire/Flying wouldn't exactly be the best typing to accomplish that, sadly. Stealth Rock nukes your chances of ever really trying to take a hit out of anything, but I guess it's worth a shot? :x

I completely disagree, despite the massive stealth rock weakness, I think it's a great typing. Fire/Flying only 3 weaknesses plus it resists annoying fight type moves, and is naturally immune to the all popular earthquake. Besides, Tyranitar is commonly referred to as the best pseudo legendary, despite the fact it has 6 weaknesses including a 4x weakness to fighting types and a 2x weakness to earthquake.

Sorry, that was a little off topic, :nervous:. I would personally like to have mechanoid pokemon, maybe steel/fighting. Or perhaps a possessed mechanoid, Steel/Ghost with levitate (only one weakness - fire).

Ho-Oh March 8th, 2013 2:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crehym (Post 7569214)
I wanna see a Lego pokemon, that would be cool! (not Porygon) I also don't care if new pokes are based on non-living things.

I like Pokemon based on non-living things but lego just seems too... borderline? Kind of like it's crossing into other territory aka company-wise. :(

Miss Doronjo March 8th, 2013 5:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7570571)
I like Pokemon based on non-living things but lego just seems too... borderline? Kind of like it's crossing into other territory aka company-wise. :(

Well, it doesn't have to be "lego". There are more building blocks around Asia they can use! Personally, I love the idea of a building block pokemon~ Though, I do hope that it doesn't... crumble, hehe. And, it would have strange anatomy for sure... and plus, what type would it be? I see some sort of steel type with that, but... yeah, that would a strange yet interesting pokemon!

Pinkie-Dawn March 8th, 2013 7:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crehym (Post 7569214)
I wanna see a Lego pokemon, that would be cool! (not Porygon) I also don't care if new pokes are based on non-living things.

Given the fact that the region is based on Europe and LEGO originated from Europe, I don't see this as a coincidence.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 8th, 2013 10:50 AM

As soon as I read Lego Pokemon I remembered the Lego looking Digimon...so hopefully if they did make one it won't be a Lego Dragon looking Pokemon...

Jake♫ March 8th, 2013 12:22 PM

I don't know why but now I have this image of a Fighting/Rock typed Pokémon that has a humanoid shape and is made from bricks. Probably the whole building block idea, but it seems like it could be cool.

Archeops12354 March 8th, 2013 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crehym (Post 7569214)
I wanna see a Lego pokemon, that would be cool! (not Porygon) I also don't care if new pokes are based on non-living things.

What if this pokemon could made by collecting certain objects (like building bricks), and there is this person who if you give him all the parts, he will create the Lego pokemon for you. Or maybe this pokemon could have a pre-evolution, and if you give it a 'toy bricks' item, then it will evolve into the Lego pokemon.
This may seem like an unlikely concept to create a Lego pokemon, but you never know, GF has surprised us before. In gen 5 they made an icecream pokemon, a pokemon made of floating gears, and a giant snowflake pokemon (Cryogonal). GF even introduced a pedophile pokemon in gen 1 (Mr. Mime).
So you never know, it could happen.

(Hooray, I wrote the 500th reply to this thread!) XD

Ho-Oh March 14th, 2013 3:33 AM

How about like... a robotic dog? They were totally the rage years ago and if they returned through X/Y it'd be fun to like train it differently and help it gain human feelings, compared to other Pokemon :x

Jake♫ March 14th, 2013 12:40 PM

That'd be cool concept, but where the heck would we encounter that? You wouldn't see it in the wild since it's not naturally occurring. So would someone give it to you somewhere? It seems almost like a Game Corner prize to me.

Miss Doronjo March 14th, 2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7580812)
That'd be cool concept, but where the heck would we encounter that? You wouldn't see it in the wild since it's not naturally occurring. So would someone give it to you somewhere? It seems almost like a Game Corner prize to me.

Robotic Pokemon can also be attracted to electricity, so, maybe we can encounter a robotic animal near a power plant of some sort. Magnemites were found near, or inside Power Plants, for example.



I've been thinking that maybe GF will create their pokemon based off of famous French animals, so, I've too a look at a source online:
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There are no "famous" animals as such in France, but there are a few you might notice. First comes the unofficial emblem of France, the gallic rooster. Otherwise there are poodles (dogs) , pigs, horses, snails , frogs, turkeys, sheep, cattles, peacocks , chickens... etc
Or more exotic animals like bears and wolves in the mountainous parts of France (although they're more notorious than famous) as well as cougars, jaguars and monkeys in French Guiana.
I dunno about you guys, but, I'd love to see some sort of peacock pokemon, or more peacock pokemon if they already have one.

Jake♫ March 14th, 2013 1:13 PM

I'd love a jaguar based Pokémon if we're taking from that list. It'd make a cool looking Pokémon, maybe a a grass type, since it's a jungle cat?

Ho-Oh March 16th, 2013 3:26 AM

It'd have to be part fire, too, I think, because I take them as like vicious and fire is really the only vicious type I can think of. XD; Other than dark obviously.

Zorogami March 16th, 2013 3:30 AM

Agree with a Panther type needing to be Dark, that'd be fitting.
I'd love to see a Pokemon based on a lion, could be a fire/something type. And i think a Kangaroo would be pretty cute, he could be Fighting/Normal maybe?

Guy March 16th, 2013 6:18 AM

Since the two go hand-in-hand and there's been a lot of topic overlap, I've changed the topic of this thread to discuss not only new Pokémon ideas you have but also the new type combinations you'd like to see on these new Pokémon as well, while closing the old "New Type Combinations Speculation Thread" from before. This should also allow for the discussion to not be as limited as it once was too.

Going back on track; Ice-type Wolf Pokémon and Fire/Water Pistol Shrimp Pokémon FTW!

Miss Doronjo March 16th, 2013 6:25 AM

I've seen Fakemon of a Ice wolf before:

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/150/f/2011/125/f/0/f0f5c92ff5f3d004ee5dbc6d56e021e8-d3fohto.png

He does look very cute and playful. ;__; Though I wonder if it'll resemble Houndoom or Mightyena in a way. But, no matter, I'd love a Ice wolf. :3

Markopolo March 16th, 2013 10:43 AM

An evolution of ditto! Or a pokemon that is Dark/Psychic type!

Guy March 16th, 2013 5:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7583362)
I've seen Fakemon of a Ice wolf before:

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/150/f/2011/125/f/0/f0f5c92ff5f3d004ee5dbc6d56e021e8-d3fohto.png

He does look very cute and playful. ;__; Though I wonder if it'll resemble Houndoom or Mightyena in a way. But, no matter, I'd love a Ice wolf. :3

I'd kind of want an Ice Wolf to look a bit more like Absol actually. Or perhaps like Arcanine.

I suppose this would be that Fakemon's evolution. I certainly wouldn't mind it.

Zorogami March 16th, 2013 6:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7583356)
Going back on track; Ice-type Wolf Pokémon and Fire/Water Pistol Shrimp Pokémon FTW!

That Pistol Shrimp pokemon sounds like an amazing idea!! I' love to see a design for that pokemon, would probably look awesome!


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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7584112)
The purpose of Ditto is to transform into something, but what more can it evolve into that can further help it accomplish that purpose?

I have to agree, giving Ditto an evolution would be somewhat pointless, since he can already transform into any pokemon, so i guess it's pretty unlikely to happen

Ho-Oh March 16th, 2013 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7583362)
I've seen Fakemon of a Ice wolf before:

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/150/f/2011/125/f/0/f0f5c92ff5f3d004ee5dbc6d56e021e8-d3fohto.png

He does look very cute and playful. ;__; Though I wonder if it'll resemble Houndoom or Mightyena in a way. But, no matter, I'd love a Ice wolf. :3

That's adorable!! I think it'd definitely be a physical attacker, and could somewhat rival Lillipup in a way. I'd love to see something like that in these games. :)

Karel_Kazuki March 17th, 2013 3:45 AM

Electric/Grass
Dark/Water
Psychic/Bug
Ice/Bug
Flying/Fighting
Fighting/Bug
and Steel/Fire if it hasnt been done.

Zorogami March 17th, 2013 3:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 7584667)
Electric/Grass
Dark/Water
Psychic/Bug
Ice/Bug
Flying/Fighting
Fighting/Bug
and Steel/Fire if it hasnt been done.

Electric/Grass, Ice/Bug, Psychic/Bug and Flying/Fighting hasn't been done yet and I'd love to see some pokemon with that typing too! Especially Flying/Fighting would be awesome, i've been hoping for a pokemon with this type for a long time now. As for Fighting/Bug we have Heracross, Water/Dark we have Sharpedo and Crawdaunt and Steel/Fire there is Heatran, but i wouldn't mind seeing some more pokemon with these type combos, since we only have a handful, and one of them is a legendary anyways...

Ho-Oh March 17th, 2013 7:44 AM

I agree with more fire/steel! It's such a useful typing and I definitely think it should be used more and hopefully is in mons in this generation and flash fire again too plz <3

Zorogami March 17th, 2013 9:43 AM

Fire/Steel is a really cool typing, i hate when only legendaries get these kinds of combos. They should definitely make more of them!!

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 11:01 AM

I actually thought Flying/Fighting almost should have been Braviary, but since it wasn't I'd love to see that happen. Maybe the legendary will finally give us that?

Kurapika March 17th, 2013 11:05 AM

About the Robotic Poke.. it can be Steel + 2nd type (ground, fire, electric ..Etc) depending on its forme which will probably depend on the environnement?!
Hehe, I am not the only one hoping for a non-legendary fire-steel Pokémon. :] Imagine if Slugma, Magcargo, Torkoal or Numel get a steel-fire evolution? Hmm...
I also would love an Electric - Ice Pokémon and a Koffing's cousin, a Poison Electric Pokémon with Levitate, Oh god!

Regarding legendaries, I would like to see less Dragon even tough I am an Ice Beam fan, haha! :D
Yvetal and Xerneas don't look really like Dragons so I am happy. :3 I also would like to see some epic uber Poison-typed legendary, it can probably have some signature poison move that cause both poison and confusion? Hmm...

Zorogami March 17th, 2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7585164)
I actually thought Flying/Fighting almost should have been Braviary, but since it wasn't I'd love to see that happen. Maybe the legendary will finally give us that?

Braviary would have been a great Fighting/Flying Pokemon, although i think a pokemon with this dual type would need some kind of legs/arms to actually fight? Maybe not, i dont know...
But please please please don't let it be a legendary who gets this combo, i hate it when only they get brand new dual types, they should be given to more "normal" pokemon!

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Originally Posted by Kurapika (Post 7585170)
I also would love an Electric - Ice Pokémon and a Koffing's cousin, a Poison Electric Pokémon with Levitate, Oh god!

Both sound like really cool idea, especially having an Electric/Ice Pokemon :D

Southueki March 17th, 2013 11:59 AM

I would love to see a Fire/Grass lion Pokémon.

It would be mostly green, with a flaming mane and maybe a flame at the end of it's tail

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7583362)
I've seen Fakemon of a Ice wolf before:

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/150/f/2011/125/f/0/f0f5c92ff5f3d004ee5dbc6d56e021e8-d3fohto.png

He does look very cute and playful. ;__; Though I wonder if it'll resemble Houndoom or Mightyena in a way. But, no matter, I'd love a Ice wolf. :3

Just saw this, and the amount I want it is incredible. I can see it going from cute to a ferocious mountain lion kind of thing when it evolves.

Karel_Kazuki March 17th, 2013 7:22 PM

Has Fire Poison been done yet? or Ice Poison?

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Karel_Kazuki (Post 7585877)
Has Fire Poison been done yet? or Ice Poison?

Neither has! I'd love to see the former especially, since we have all these Fire types learning things like Smog. A Fire/Poison dual type would definitely be something I'd want to see. Ice/Poison sounds interesting too, especially since it takes away that pesky Fighting weakness away that plagues Ice types.

Xander Olivieri March 17th, 2013 8:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7585901)
Neither has! I'd love to see the former especially, since we have all these Fire types learning things like Smog. A Fire/Poison dual type would definitely be something I'd want to see. Ice/Poison sounds interesting too, especially since it takes away that pesky Fighting weakness away that plagues Ice types.

Ice/Poison sounds like it would be cool, though its a type combination that just doesn't meld well....It loses Fighting only. It keeps everything else. Resistance wise its very meh. Grass, Poison, Ice, and Bug. Not that great. Not to mention both types get a huge shaft stat wise. Together it would have pretty mediocre stats and Move pool.

Fire/Poison is so interesting...x4 weakness to ground is just so unsexy.

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 8:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7585978)
Ice/Poison sounds like it would be cool, though its a type combination that just doesn't meld well....It loses Fighting only. It keeps everything else. Resistance wise its very meh. Grass, Poison, Ice, and Bug. Not that great. Not to mention both types get a huge shaft stat wise. Together it would have pretty mediocre stats and Move pool.

Fire/Poison is so interesting...x4 weakness to ground is just so unsexy.

Agree with you on Ice/Poison. It's still weak to so many common types it's still not great, but it'd be interesting at least. As for Fire/Poison, Heatran has the same issue and still functions well! Balloons are great things =P

Xander Olivieri March 17th, 2013 9:11 PM

Balloons are easy to bypass and are situation at best though. Just cause Heatran also has it doesn't raise the appeal.

Pokemon that share the x4 Ground weakness

Magnezone: OU. Really good and doesn't have to worry about OHKOs with Sturdy. Has pretty decent stats to back it up.
Magneton: RU. Was as good as Magnezone before Gen 4 when Magnezone replaced it. Now its not used that often. Like with Magnezone it has decent stats to back it up.

Both are mostly due to its Steel Typing's natually high defenses.

Macargo: NU. It has its moments, but its not used for a reason.
Bastidon: NU. Despite having some pretty good defense, it sits in obscurity thanks to X4 Ground and X4 Fighting weakness. Has a bit more as to why its not used often, but still fits.
Probopass: NU. Pretty much the same as Bastidon.
Aggron: RU. Used more than the above two due to having a better attacking stat but still falls down hard.

Heatran's saving grace is he's a 600 BST Legendary. If his stats were below 500, he'd be with the others in RU/NU.

So baring 2 competitively x4 Ground isn't that great. Only 3 of which have x4 weakness to fighting which is possibly the only other reason they're down as far as they are which is really sad cause I really like two of them =C

If the Fire/Poison is under 500 BST, its going to be NU/RU bait. While it'll have potential in NU and RU, that's still not the best thing to go off of. It may even fall as far as the newly made PU which is 3.41% of NU usage.


I don't want to discourage the hope cause it CAN still be made, just it'll be very unappealing and fall into mediocrity very fast.

Zorogami March 18th, 2013 12:05 AM

I agree with XanderO, a x4 weakness to Ground would be a huge disadvantage. If this Pokemon happened to have Levitate as an ability though, he would only be weak to Water, Rock and Psychic, which would make him way more usable. And even with a x4 Ground weakness, I'd love to see the design for a pokemon with this typing!

Archeops12354 March 18th, 2013 12:46 AM

I have always wanted a Rock/Poison type pokemon with levitate, it has a 4x weakness to earthquake but levitate nullifies its ground weakness. I would like a pokemon with this typing is gen 6, and NOT terrible!!!!!!!!

Speaking of new pokemon, you all have probably seen it, but I'll post it anyway:

http://pokemondungeon.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/leaked-gen-iv-e1359792651765.png

What do you think of these possible pokemon? Please, give me your thoughts!
I personally like the birdie, he looks so badass, and I hope his final evolution ends up being a kickass bird similar to Staraptor, NOT Unfezant!!! And that facial expression just screams "Does it LOOK like I give a ****?"
I think that bug thing just looks stupid, but you never know, after all that stupid Shelmet evolves into ACCELGOR!!!!! But yeah, until otherwise the bug sucks.

(BTW sorry if this has already been done before :nervous:)

Ho-Oh March 18th, 2013 1:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7586180)
I have always wanted a Rock/Poison type pokemon with levitate, it has a 4x weakness to earthquake but levitate nullifies its ground weakness. I would like a pokemon with this typing is gen 6, and NOT terrible!!!!!!!!

Speaking of new pokemon, you all have probably seen it, but I'll post it anyway:

What do you think of these possible pokemon? Please, give me your thoughts!
I personally like the birdie, he looks so badass, and I hope his final evolution ends up being a kickass bird similar to Staraptor, NOT Unfezant!!! And that facial expression just screams "Does it LOOK like I give a ****?"
I think that bug thing just looks stupid, but you never know, after all that stupid Shelmet evolves into ACCELGOR!!!!! But yeah, until otherwise the bug sucks.

(BTW sorry if this has already been done before :nervous:)

Well they were proven fake so I don't really have an opinion on them :(

Rock/poison with levitate sounds pretty fun tho. :3;


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