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MarinoKadame March 1st, 2013 3:48 PM

I always liked the fossil pokemons and a Dragon one could be interesting. And we got lot of Water/Rock, some flying and steel and pure Rock. Some combo never been made with rock Like Electric/Rock, Dragon/Rock, Poison/Rock, Ghost/Rock, Ice/Rock and Normal/Rock. I hope they add one of them as fossil because we got enough of those Water/Rock fossils.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 1st, 2013 4:17 PM

Yeah, the type originality of gen 5's fossils disappointed me. I want something more like Hoenn's which had one new combo, and a older one which only another Pokémon had but which wasn't a fossil. Speaking of fossils I wonder if we'll get a "third fossil" like Relicanth (living fossil, and Genesect (re-engineered fossil), or one like Aerodactyl...however they seem to be an odd generations thing so maybe not...

For fossil's I'll like a T-rex Dragon/Rock (ancestor of Larvitar maybe?), and a mammoth (I know it's not from the dinosaur era but it'll be cool to have another mammoth Pokémon) it can be Ice/Rock, that's two new rock combo's ^_^.

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 8:18 PM

I really wanted a pokemon with a **** ton of Hp, but no defences (because of the high Hp, you will get tons of exp when you kill, *cough*, I mean faint it). Ok, statistics time!!!!!!!!!!

Hp: 350
Atk: 5
Def: 1
SpAtk: 5
SpDef: 1
Spd 5

Base stat total: 367
This pokemon's stats do look pathetic, but the point is to make a pokemon that is easy to take down, and you get tons of exp from it. (FYI, the more hp a poke has, the more exp you get when you faint it. Thats why you get loads of exp when you take down an Audino or a Chansey/Blissey)

Miss Doronjo March 1st, 2013 9:08 PM

Hm, that pokemon's statistics kind of reminds me... of a reverse Shuckle. Because you know -- Shuckle has low HP and high Defense and Special Defense, but that pokemon statistics are the other way around~ I'd would be col if it'd give loads of EXP points, or maybe loads of utility moves for battle!

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7560708)
Hm, that pokemon's statistics kind of reminds me... of a reverse Shuckle. Because you know -- Shuckle has low HP and high Defense and Special Defense, but that pokemon statistics are the other way around~ I'd would be col if it'd give loads of EXP points, or maybe loads of utility moves for battle!

Although it could have some decent utility, with that frail of defenses it's not going to survive long, even with that astronomical HP stat. Anything super-effective is either going to KO it or knock it down at least to half HP, so it's almost a waste =/ It'd be cool for grinding purposes, but outside of that I wouldn't see something like this having value or even being implemented.

Miss Doronjo March 1st, 2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7560769)
Another suggestion for a Pokemon!

I don't know what characteristics it should have really, but something that is Grass/Electric should do! It took me a while to figure this one out, but this typing is actually pretty good, competitively! Only has around..4 weakness? Two of which aren't -too- common I think(poison and bug), so I think it should be okay. :3 I can most definitely see it as being more of a special attacker, too~!

The only concern I have with that is that I'd like to think that Electric represents working technology and grass represents nature of some sort, so, they'd be kind of conditioning forces, although, that'd be nice to see! Actually, you've remind me of something speculated long ago; perhaps we'll see pokemon that actually have "mutated genes", in which these pokemon have "contradicted dual types" like a Fire/Water type, a Psychic/Dark type, etc, etc.

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7560775)
The only concern I have with that is that I'd like to think that Electric represents working technology and grass represents nature of some sort, so, they'd be kind of conditioning forces, although, that'd be nice to see! Actually, you've remind me of something speculated long ago; perhaps we'll see pokemon that actually have "mutated genes", in which these pokemon have "contradicted dual types" like a Fire/Water type, a Psychic/Dark type, etc, etc.

I think having that sort of "mutation" or whatever they want to call it would be cool, and it's probably why they haven't had some of these fabled types because they were polar opposites. With the game being based on genetics I can definitely see something like that being possible, and it could be interesting!

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7560743)
Although it could have some decent utility, with that frail of defenses it's not going to survive long, even with that astronomical HP stat. Anything super-effective is either going to KO it or knock it down at least to half HP, so it's almost a waste =/ It'd be cool for grinding purposes, but outside of that I wouldn't see something like this having value or even being implemented.

I know this pokemon is very frail, I didn't want this pokemon to be used in actual battle, I simply wanted a pokemon that would make level-grinding so much easier. My idea was to basically make a giant blob of exp so you could level up your good pokemon much faster.


On the other hand, maybe this pokemon could get a kickass evolution - a super defensive one.
Hooray! Statistics time!

Hp: 290 Ability: Magic Guard
Atk: 10
Def: 135
SpAtk: 10
SpDef: 140
Spd: 5

Base stat total: 590
Looking at it's stats, it's pretty obvious that this pokemon can wall any attack, at the cost of being pathetic offensively. My plan is to make the ultimate annoying pokemon, and if this pokemon has magic guard, then say bye-bye to toxic and will-o-wisp. Have it learn toxic, thunder wave, recover, and your choice of entry hazards (preferably stealth rock - if it can learn it). There you have it, the ultimate annoyer.

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7560792)
I know this pokemon is very frail, I didn't want this pokemon to be used in actual battle, I simply wanted a pokemon that would make level-grinding so much easier. My idea was to basically make a giant blob of exp so you could level up your good pokemon much faster.

But isn't that what Audino is pretty much for right now? I mean I know it has its niche in battling, but it's mostly used solely for grinding as it is. I can see maybe giving the new generation a new version of Audino, but I'd rather just see it get carried over from Unova than make some blob-thing that's totally useless.

Archeops12354 March 1st, 2013 11:51 PM

I have written this before in a different topic, but I think it was out of place so I decided to copy it down in this thread.

Zlythax. (Poison/Dark)
I thought it was a cool name, it's design sorta looks like a cross between the creature 'venom' from spiderman, and sableye. This creature has a long, furry tongue that hangs out from it's Sableye - like grin. It has blank, soulless blue eyes (like Sylveon), and has long, black scythes that replace it's hands (like Kabutops's blades - except longer and black).
Now it's stats:

Ability: Assassin (Increases the accuracy of OHKO moves, like guillotine, from 30% to 80%)

Hp: 100
Atk: 15
Def: 80
SpAtk: 15
SpDef: 80
Spd: 150

Base stat total: 440

You are probably disappointed with it's attack stats, but when it has the ability 'Assassin', who needs attack? Zlythax can learn ALL the OHKO moves, including a new one called 'Death Slice', a dark type guillotine which is it's signature move.
Since Zlythax has a stunning 150 speed stat, it should OHKO everything in it's path, at least 80% of the time!

Jake♫ March 1st, 2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Archeops12354 (Post 7560862)
I have written this before in a different topic, but I think it was out of place so I decided to copy it down in this thread.

Zlythax. (Poison/Dark)
I thought it was a cool name, it's design sorta looks like a cross between the creature 'venom' from spiderman, and sableye. This creature has a long, furry tongue that hangs out from it's Sableye - like grin. It has blank, soulless blue eyes (like Sylveon), and has long, black scythes that replace it's hands (like Kabutops's blades - except longer and black).
Now it's stats:

Ability: Assassin (Increases the accuracy of OHKO moves, like guillotine, from 30% to 80%)

Hp: 100
Atk: 15
Def: 80
SpAtk: 15
SpDef: 80
Spd: 150

Base stat total: 440

You are probably disappointed with it's attack stats, but when it has the ability 'Assassin', who needs attack? Zlythax can learn ALL the OHKO moves, including a new one called 'Death Slice', a dark type guillotine which is it's signature move.
Since Zlythax has a stunning 150 speed stat, it should OHKO everything in it's path, at least 80% of the time!

That is so ridiculously overpowered that it's definitely never going to happen. If something like this learned Hone Claws, it's OHKO moves would hit 100% of the time. The design is a nice enough concept, but that kind of ability with that speed stat is not going to happen. If you threw a Choice Scarf on it it would be unbeatable outside of extremely lucky misses and if something got the chance to either hit it with a Choice Banded Earthquake or got lucky twice in a row and got an opportunity to set up and get an attack off.

Maybe if that buff was more like a 20% bump up to 50% (which I still don't see happening), with it's HP and Defense stat's it could easily set up a Hone Claws (which it would obviously have with your description) which would just be silly.

Aslan March 2nd, 2013 12:09 AM

I'd like to see various Pokemon introduced in this new generation and from the ones seen so far, I'm looking forward to seeing what all sorts of wonderful creations they can conjure up :3. Right now I would like to see evolutions for some weaker Pokemon such as Farfetch'd just to give it a little boost perhaps stat wise and maybe even a different typing! Although I do understand not every Pokemon can be a strong fighter, they're all special and unique in their own way.

And I'd also really like to see any sort of Pokemon with opposite typings like Grass/Fire, a much better Electric/Ground and the one I would most want to see is a Dark/Psychic, if that sort of Pokemon ever came around I'd definitely use it no matter what <3. Other than that for the longest time I've really wanted Lapras to evolve into something that closer resembles Nessie or the Loch Ness monster.

Lastly, a dolphin-like Pokemon that isn't purely water-type is something I'd also like to see. From memory I don't remember any water/psychic types so yes. And there are so many more sorts of Pokemon I'd like to see in this generation but then I'd waffle on for ages. :B

Archeops12354 March 2nd, 2013 8:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7560867)
That is so ridiculously overpowered that it's definitely never going to happen. If something like this learned Hone Claws, it's OHKO moves would hit 100% of the time. The design is a nice enough concept, but that kind of ability with that speed stat is not going to happen. If you threw a Choice Scarf on it it would be unbeatable outside of extremely lucky misses and if something got the chance to either hit it with a Choice Banded Earthquake or got lucky twice in a row and got an opportunity to set up and get an attack off.

Maybe if that buff was more like a 20% bump up to 50% (which I still don't see happening), with it's HP and Defense stat's it could easily set up a Hone Claws (which it would obviously have with your description) which would just be silly.

FYI the OHKO moves have a fixed accuracy, so the accuracy can't be boosted with hone claws, it's ability changes the fixed accuracy to 70% to make up for its stupidly low attack (I wrote 80% by accident, 80% is TOO DAMN HIGH!). Although I do agree that it's defenses are too high, perhaps change the hp to 80, def to 75, and special def to 70.
Those defenses should make it fair because any ground move would definitely cripple it (if not faint it), and besides we all know how annoyingly inaccurate those 70% moves such as blizzard and thunder are now don't we? 70%? Pfft, more like 50%.
With all honesty, I don't believe its speed stat should be changed one bit, I believe it is fine the way it is. He is a speedy killer, but is screwed if he misses. That doesn't seem too overpowered if you ask me, since his pathetic attack stats restricts him to 70% accurate offensive moves which are still unreliable accuracy.

Kurapika March 2nd, 2013 5:58 PM

50% accuracy for OHKO is already big enough so 80% ?? lol, no thanks!! And, to top it off, you give it such a very good defensive stats and a resisting typing.... No, just no.
Imo, that ability should never be added.

Scarecr0wFixatioN March 2nd, 2013 6:17 PM

A snake pokemon that's competitively viable. Please x.x

Archeops12354 March 2nd, 2013 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurapika (Post 7562127)
50% accuracy for OHKO is already big enough so 80% ?? lol, no thanks!! And, to top it off, you give it such a very good defensive stats and a resisting typing.... No, just no.
Imo, that ability should never be added.


GRRRRRRR, I meant to write down 70%!!!!!!! Anyway, I already changed its defensive stats in my most recent reply:

Hp: 70
Def: 70
SpDef: 65

A good Earthquake should take it out no prob, and besides, 70% accuracy is still unreliable. Heh, thunder and blizzard, we all know how accurate those are! So what if it seems a little overpowered, do you remember Alakazam? Or sandstorm Excadrill? Or Garchomp even? Those pokemon are/were broken, yet they managed to exist in the pokemon games.
Although I do agree that its typing is a bit too much, maybe just a mono dark type would be enough.

Jake♫ March 2nd, 2013 8:30 PM

Alakazam is far from broken, Garchomp isn't broken, and Excadrill can be argued it is (but I still don't think it is). But that's straying away from the point of this thread =P

As for types of Pokémon I'd love to see, I feel like Gen 4 and Gen 5 were lacking on Fire types a lot, so I'd love to see some decent new fire types get introduced!

Scarecr0wFixatioN March 2nd, 2013 9:58 PM

I think a fire/poison type would be pretty neat to see. I have no idea would it would look like, but I hope they do it this gen.

Archeops12354 March 3rd, 2013 3:48 AM

As for types of Pokémon I'd love to see, I feel like Gen 4 and Gen 5 were lacking on Fire types a lot, so I'd love to see some decent new fire types get introduced![/QUOTE]



Well aside from the horrible gen 4 - 5 fire types such as Infernape, Magmortar, Heat Rotom, Heatran, Fire Arceus, Darmanitan, Chandelure, Volcarona, Reshiram, and White Kyurem, I completely agree that GF should make at least decent fire types.

Pinkie-Dawn March 3rd, 2013 6:54 AM

Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Miss Doronjo March 3rd, 2013 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7562781)
Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Yeah, sure it can! In fact, that would be an awesome concept of a pokemon, imo. I'm just not sure if it would have a secondary typing or not.

Ho-Oh March 3rd, 2013 7:29 AM

It'd be fire/light, buuut since light doesn't exist I think it'd only fit fire. XD; Kind of an awesome mon idea tho!

Mujahid March 3rd, 2013 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecr0wFixatioN (Post 7562461)
I think a fire/poison type would be pretty neat to see. I have no idea would it would look like, but I hope they do it this gen.

A Bombardier beetle ! They can make it so it secretes both Acid and Fire. Now, that'll be one scary Pokemon.

Archeops12354 March 4th, 2013 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7562781)
Would a Pokemon based on fireworks help increase the diversity of Fire types?

Ooooooh a fireworks pokemon! Such a cool idea! :D
Maybe a good name for it would be Blazzaka ('Blaze' and 'Fire Cracker')
You know what time it is ... Statistics time!

Ability: Fuse (After being hit by a fire move, 3 turns later the pokemon will attack the enemy team and faint all the opposing team, the user will faint as well)

Hp: 110
Atk: 70
Def: 100
SpAtk: 70
SpDef: 105
Spd: 55

Base stat total: 500

Zorogami March 4th, 2013 3:37 PM

I have been hoping for a Electric/Fighting Pokemon since like Gen3...
There are so many combinations they havent tried out yet, i think they should make some pokemon
with new mixed typing: like the "mutated" kind, as you guys have been calling it.
I would love to see a fire/water pokemon, but i have no clue what that could look like...


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