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vaporeon7 February 5th, 2013 4:33 AM

I really want to see like a berry farm, that'd be awesome. And it goes with Nica's farm idea.

Miss Doronjo February 5th, 2013 4:36 AM

Perhaps there will be new types of Fruit?

I did hear that grapes were quite common in France.

vaporeon7 February 5th, 2013 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7524784)
Perhaps there will be new types of Fruit?

I did hear that grapes were quite common in France.

I'd like to see new berries based of common french fruit.

blue February 5th, 2013 4:55 AM

They could introduce Vineyards, they're commonly found in France.

Ho-Oh February 5th, 2013 5:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7524784)
Perhaps there will be new types of Fruit?

I did hear that grapes were quite common in France.

New fruit is good as opposed to just berries. They can get very creative in regards to what fruit could improve/enhance for the Pokemon it's being given to, or maybe even the trainer just as a treat idek.

Platinum Lucario February 5th, 2013 5:20 AM

Hm... I would really like to see many new types of berries in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, and I would love to see them return as being able to grow them as trees.

Maybe your player's home might have a garden where you can grow berries as well? That would be so cool, considering that previous Pokémon games never had houses that had backyards.

blue February 5th, 2013 5:22 AM

I don't think they need to introduce any more Berries, what further use could they provide? We have PP boost, HP boost, Resistance against every type and more.

Mujahid February 5th, 2013 6:33 AM

No one wants Apricorns ? I would LOVE some Apricorns. This is one thing they have barely touched since their inception.

EJ February 5th, 2013 7:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver (Post 7524808)
Hm... I would really like to see many new types of berries in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, and I would love to see them return as being able to grow them as trees.

Maybe your player's home might have a garden where you can grow berries as well? That would be so cool, considering that previous Pokémon games never had houses that had backyards.

That's because practically no house in Pkmn games have backyards, and as stated before there's no point in introducing more berries unless it's one or two more that replenish your health ala potion/super potions; similar to what oran/sitrus berries do.

RandomDSdevel February 5th, 2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7479943)
The only thing I can think of is a relation to space and another dimension like Deoxys.

Wait: X could mean Xerneus's having been confined to land, Y could mean Yveltal having been granted access to the sky with its wings, and Z could imply that the third legendary swims beneath the surface of the sea!

vaporeon7 February 5th, 2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by .EJ (Post 7524869)
That's because practically no house in Pkmn games have backyards, and as stated before there's no point in introducing more berries unless it's one or two more that replenish your health ala potion/super potions; similar to what oran/sitrus berries do.

Well the Villa in Platinum had a front garden, and the player's house in Black 2 and White 2 had a garden to the side (though it was just for looks). I don't see why they couldn't have something like that.

blue February 5th, 2013 11:37 AM

I'd be in favour of that, you could enter through the back of your house in which you could personalize with crops and patches, plant seeds, sort of like a Gardening activity.

RandomDSdevel February 5th, 2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 7485464)
I can see movement glitches. One bad thing about the game coming out internationally in the same month is that if a major glitch is discovered, it can't be fixed in localisations because...they'll already be localized! So that might be ugly, but hopefully not. That Zoroark glitch isn't too hard to avoid and I doubt a lot of us have the Japanese games (oops guess I'll have to watch out for it).

I guess it would be fixed in later copies, like how they fixed things in later copies of Ocarina of Time and removed the original Fire Temple theme. Sucks for those of us that might get a messed up copy on release day though. :(

Mario Kart 7 got patched, and so can Pokémon X and Y.

vaporeon7 February 5th, 2013 12:50 PM

Speaking of downloading stuff, I wonder if there will be any event items that will let us catch a rare Pokémon like Darkrai.

Cyclone February 5th, 2013 3:55 PM

BTW Sydian, I'm sure if you ask Nintendo, they can get you a patched copy. You may have to pay for shipping however.

Cyclone

EJ February 5th, 2013 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7525046)
Well the Villa in Platinum had a front garden, and the player's house in Black 2 and White 2 had a garden to the side (though it was just for looks). I don't see why they couldn't have something like that.

You dropped two examples out of how many regions now? This is what I'm getting at...it's not done often enough to form a serious speculation out of it.

vaporeon7 February 5th, 2013 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by .EJ (Post 7525280)
You dropped two examples out of how many regions now? This is what I'm getting at...it's not done often enough to form a serious speculation out of it.

The Berry Master's garden in Hoenn, Mr. Backlot's mansion and Bill's house also come to mind.

EJ February 5th, 2013 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7525341)
The Berry Master's garden in Hoenn, Mr. Backlot's mansion and Bill's house also come to mind.

Hmm, fair enough. If it were more widespread I'd be more inclined to see it happening. Maybe if they make a big deal out of everyone having gardens.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 5th, 2013 7:45 PM

Well the French do love to be outdoors so maybe. I do expect giant gardens in front of the mansion/castles.

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 12:13 AM

I hope we see some castles. Maybe the evil team can take the owners hostage or something.

blue February 6th, 2013 2:08 AM

We had N's Castle in BW which was where he resided so it would be kinda doing the same routine again, maybe there could be one for decoration purposes that you could explore in 3D and look out over the region from the rooftop.

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 2:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7525757)
We had N's Castle in BW which was where he resided so it would be kinda doing the same routine again, maybe there could be one for decoration purposes that you could explore in 3D and look out over the region from the rooftop.

I think that'd be nice, like Aspertia's City's lookout.

ilovejirachi123 February 6th, 2013 3:44 AM

what if the leader of the evil team was a rich and respected man or woman. this way it is almost like a mystery and it wouldn't be so oveus like in BW.

P.S. maybe he could even be your ali up until you find out his secret.

Platinum Lucario February 6th, 2013 3:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7525757)
We had N's Castle in BW which was where he resided so it would be kinda doing the same routine again, maybe there could be one for decoration purposes that you could explore in 3D and look out over the region from the rooftop.

Hm... what about something like a department store from the previous games? Then you'd be able to look at all the buildings and get a great view of things? Something more like the Celedon Department Store in HG/SS?

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 3:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovejirachi123 (Post 7525801)
what if the leader of the evil team was a rich and respected man or woman. this way it is almost like a mystery and it wouldn't be so oveus like in BW.

P.S. maybe he could even be your ali up until you find out his secret.

Kind of reminds me too much of Pokémon Colosseum tbh.

blue February 6th, 2013 7:19 AM

I thought Colosseum had a great storyline, so to incorporate a similar scenario into a mainstream handheld Pokemon game would be pretty cool IMO. It could take place after the events that occurred in Colosseum, kind of like a sequel.

RandomDSdevel February 6th, 2013 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pokemonmasteraaron (Post 7487402)
That was my first empresion after watching the traillor. But I'm pretty sure it will be genetics. Think abou t it, they could make use of the DNA splicers if it is genetics.

What DNA splicers…? I never noticed them, ever!

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Originally Posted by pokemonmasteraaron (Post 7487457)
Exactly. I wonder what the evil team will be like? And what their name is?

I'm reserving the name of 'Team Vortex' for a fan game that I'm working on but hope to actually publish! I can try, can't I? 'Aeonn' region, here I come!!!

Guy February 6th, 2013 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel (Post 7526000)
What DNA splicers…? I never noticed them, ever!

The DNA Splicers is a key item found in B2W2. It's what the player uses to merge Kyurem with either Reshiram or Zekrom to form White Kyurem or Black Kyurem. If it's brought back in X and Y, I doubt they'll change its main use for anything more despite the apparent theme in DNA / genetics.

EJ February 6th, 2013 8:55 AM

Although personally I would have preferred the dimensions/coordinates theory; the more and more we go along, the more I learn towards DNA/genetics.

ehh, does anybody know when get more news?

Guy February 6th, 2013 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by .EJ (Post 7526039)
Although personally I would have preferred the dimensions/coordinates theory; the more and more we go along, the more I learn towards DNA/genetics.

ehh, does anybody know when get more news?

Hopefully early next week, around the 12th, new scans from this month's CoroCoro issue will be leaked online. I'm really looking forward to what may be on them this time around!

EJ February 6th, 2013 9:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7526044)
Hopefully early next week, around the 12th, new scans from this month's CoroCoro issue will be leaked online. I'm really looking forward to what may be on them this time around!

Hopefully we see legit new pokemon haha I'm anticipating the rodent/bird families

Ho-Oh February 6th, 2013 9:32 AM

I look forward to the evil team despite what I said on twitter of chances that there might not be an evil team :x

Ho-Oh February 6th, 2013 9:37 AM

I dunno yet but given how it's been going lately of the changed patterns idk they could just shock is! Nevertheless in BW it was revealed around late August so maybe around then??

EJ February 6th, 2013 10:21 AM

hmm, no evil team eh? Interesting concept but what would be the plot then?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 6th, 2013 12:09 PM

That would make the rivals the main antagonists (as in the literary term not saying they're evil or anything.)
I'm hoping for more players in this game plot as in more than one team. We could have three evil teams who rule over one third of the region and are fighting one another for the whole. The last team standing could depend on the starter you pick like team X(using letter as place holder) for Froakie, team Y for Fennekin, and Z Green for Chespin.

Mark Kamill February 6th, 2013 12:36 PM

I suspect CoroCoro will have the protags and the region, no actually I have no doubt that won't be shown. Something tells me that all 9 months will be used for slow but steady and oh so meaningful info. Something like what is to follow. As a note, 2-3 new Pokemon is a mandatory reveal, and in the end alongside with all of this we shall likely have 30 or so new Pokemon as per previous generations:
February-New Movie 16 Pokemon, Protag's, and region. These 3 are usually the base info along side the starters, and seeing how starters+legendaries(which are usually June info instead of April/May when it comes to gen 4/5 reveals) have already been given, the only thing left now is the basis.
March-Pokedex, Pokedevice, Battle changes. After covering the basics to the games when it comes to characters, we start to get into how everything works. The pokedex will get a feature as I suspect a huge reworking of it compared to the limp BW changes outside of the habitat list, the Pokedevice will get a small introduction with basic features outlined. Battle Changes would be whatever the new feature with bonding is, and we might get hints of other changes through screens.
April-Online bits and pieces, coverage of some sort of spinoff that works with the games.
May-Evil Team, more bits of the game that have changed, as the roller skates, more info on the bonding feature.
June-Media Blowout. Not too many things revealed, but thanks to E3 the majority of info will be here.

July,August, September, October will be about covering various characters, Professor, Gym Leaders, Rival, what not. Maybe some more features, but the gist of what changes we will get will all come in the upcoming months instead. Perhaps Battle Tower and such as well in these months.I feel there is much to be revealed compared to previous generations, even DP, and that the 10 month wait is justified by a deluge of info we will get each month, that might not even scratch much of the games surface. And I really hope the region gets revealed this month, it would be the ultimate driving force behind speculation, and could work for them brilliantly.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 6th, 2013 2:16 PM

If they show the region soon I imagine they will cover parts of it like they did with Johto (remakes) and Unova's map as to not reveal everything in the games.

ilovejirachi123 February 6th, 2013 2:54 PM

or instead there could be a world cricus that effects everyone. it is like caused by the lkegendaries. so its up to you to say the world.:]

Guy February 6th, 2013 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7526324)
If they show the region soon I imagine they will cover parts of it like they did with Johto (remakes) and Unova's map as to not reveal everything in the games.

Dissecting a new region's map is one of my favorite parts about speculation. There's a lot of discussion and ideas that comes out of it. So I hope they do reveal it in this month's CoroCoro. It would make sense to do so after all. I mean, how can you get hyped about where you're going, if you don't even know where you're going in the first place, right?

Plus, if I recall correctly, the region usually gets revealed early on. So, fingers crossed.

Mark Kamill February 6th, 2013 3:32 PM

It indeed does. DP,Pt,HGSS,BW, and B2W2 all have had their region map revealed in the second info month after the first info month. B2W2 is the anomaly, as in that B2W2 was revealed in a weird way, and nothing but art for the mascots was revealed, and as such March was the first info month and April the second. Not to mention XY has given us the starters as well, which usually are revealed cocurrently with the protag's and region.

Miss Doronjo February 6th, 2013 4:23 PM

Whatever the new map is, I hope travelling through there is not as linear as BW. Which was good, but I'd perfer alternate routes for alternate gym badges (still out of 8)?

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 4:46 PM

I hope there are lots of routes and cities, Unova wasn't as good as Hoenn as Unova had very few towns, cities and routes. They were bigger, but...

Guy February 6th, 2013 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7526507)
I hope there are lots of routes and cities, Unova wasn't as good as Hoenn as Unova had very few towns, cities and routes. They were bigger, but...

They were sort of dull and forgettable, right?

Unova was just so straight foward and it lacked the variety to make it a really interesting region altogether. Each town and city didn't seem all that different to me, with the exception of Castelia City. They all just seemed to blend.

You mention Hoenn, which I think is one of the most diversified regions. I loved the different cities and towns like Fortree, Sootopolis, and Pacifidlog. Sure, there was a lot of water routes, but the variety in the locations made up for that in my opinion. This is something I hope we get to see again in the X and Y region. Not towns that look too bland or one big city that got too much attention, but a region that is filled with culture, color, and variety. Plus, a lot of different routes to take us to each of these areas. It's supposedly set in France, but there are a lot of other European countries and cultures they can pull ideas from if they really wanted to.

That's what I'm hoping for.

Ho-Oh February 6th, 2013 5:56 PM

... :(

I found Unova cities unique and I remember all of them very well! For me Hoenn was the forgettable one. XD; I'd hate for it to be completely like Hoenn, because the cities were so boring and tropical and idk, lacking Unova's spark. I'd love to see them designed like Colloseum tbh, and from what we've seen that doesn't seem impossibleee!

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7526538)
They were sort of dull and forgettable, right?

Unova was just so straight foward and it lacked the variety to make it a really interesting region altogether. Each town and city didn't seem all that different to me, with the exception of Castelia City. They all just seemed to blend.

You mention Hoenn, which I think is one of the most diversified regions. I loved the different cities and towns like Fortree, Sootopolis, and Pacifidlog. Sure, there was a lot of water routes, but the variety in the locations made up for that in my opinion. This is something I hope we get to see again in the X and Y region. Not towns that look too bland or one big city that got too much attention, but a region that is filled with culture, color, and variety. Plus, a lot of different routes to take us to each of these areas. It's supposedly set in France, but there are a lot of other European countries and cultures they can pull ideas from if they really wanted to.

That's what I'm hoping for.

It's not that I didn't like Unova's cities, I mean I love Castelia, but I think Hoenn was great because almost every city was unique. From the markets and beach of Slateport, the warm relaxing feeling of Lavaridge, the fresh and green feeling of Verdenturf to the nature feeling of Fortree, Hoenn was a smorgasbord of environments to explore. That's what I want, and that is why I think a lot of people want a remake of R/S as well.

Mark Kamill February 6th, 2013 6:32 PM

Yeah, I dunno, Unova is Hoenn Deux in terms of variations, and the routes are the best in the series. If we're strictly taking BW Unova its agreeable, but B2W2 Unova is one of the best efforts for a region yet. Not to mention, if anything, Unova is the first region with specific music for all cities/towns, which in itself makes it unique. If its the direction the series is going, then so be it, if not just a tad tweaking would make it perfect.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 6th, 2013 7:35 PM

Hoenn had different music for several cities as well, Verdanturf and Fortree come to mind. Anyways I think it'll be cool if the region had Hoenn's ecological variety but with Unova's city size, just this time add something to the cities, Unova was really lacking that the only cities I enjoyed visitiing were the three cities in the middle (Castelia, Nimbasa, Opalucid).

vaporeon7 February 6th, 2013 11:33 PM

I hope there is transport systems like the bullet train in Johto/Kanto. Even though it wasn't needed, it was still fun anyway.

ilovejirachi123 February 7th, 2013 3:42 AM

that would be cool if you were able to interact in the train/plane whatever. not like the subway system, but a cool thing like a look out or maybe part of the story invoves being in traansportation system. :]

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 4:11 AM

Talking of a look out, I'd like to see something along the lines of the Aspertia look out again. :) It was really nice to see the area in the far distance!

Cerberus87 February 7th, 2013 4:42 AM

I hope it's not like Hoenn. I prefer industrial areas.

Funny that people are comparing Unova to Hoenn, as I thought they were two extremes of the same issue. Unova is quite simple to navigate and may not have the sense of getting lost, but Hoenn had very poor path issues which stem from its lack of linearity. I recall that, to get to Meteor Falls you need to take the Fiery Path to Fallarbor, then a route to the left and the south. After you return the Meteorite to Prof. Cozmo, you have two options: do a circle route all the way back to Mauville and to the Fiery Path entrance, where the cable car is located (which is what I think you're supposed to do because there are trainers to fight north of Rustboro), or do the reverse path from Fallarbor through the Fiery Path and then the cable car, which is quite long as well. To make matters worse, you didn't even have Fly at your disposal at that point in the game. It was one of the most glaring examples of poor routing in all of the Pokémon games. Then Hoenn also had the useless Pacifidlog Town and that dreaded route of doom with the fast currents which takes ages to explore without a walkthrough. In light of that, I definitely prefer Unova's approach.

Well, at least Hoenn had the merit of not making the Town Map completely useless. :D

Mark Kamill February 7th, 2013 4:55 AM

Hoenn did not make the town map useless, if you didn't know where you were going after Mauville you could easily get lost. Unova is the one that made the map useless, the descriptions showed up even without visiting it, which was a nice thing other town maps did. Visit city/town get local description, now read. Another feature I want back however is the city/town road layout with important buildings. That was pretty fun to have, even if useless. God, BW cut so much out..

Miss Doronjo February 7th, 2013 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7526073)
I look forward to the evil team despite what I said on twitter of chances that there might not be an evil team :x

Why would you say that? =O

Unless maybe they won't be as evil as say, Team Rocket? I dunno, Team Plasma didn't really catch me as 'evil' either (apart from Ghetsis) so maybe they'll be like them?

Mark Kamill February 7th, 2013 5:58 AM

Evil team headed by the Professor. Genetics playing a role, would lead the professor's studies down a dark road, with you being her pawn for most of the way. Too dark perhaps for Pokemon where the professor is usually your mentor, but I would love it.

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 6:09 AM

Well I mean not evil team but just a bad team, really. There's so many other things that we could be fighting against - racing against the time to stop evil Pokemon, etc, it doesn't necessarily have to be a human/team.

Miss Doronjo February 7th, 2013 6:16 AM

Pokemon do have willpower, so that can be possible. =O Liiike... what if the evil pokemon were the legedaries? And yes, before anyone says "but pokemon can't be truly evil" yes, that's normally true, but it can still be possible... sorta.

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 6:26 AM

Well, the third could be worse than Yveltal and Xerneas combined. We hear about it and at first only gym leaders/e4 are fighting it, meaning we can only battle a few who stay back (so 8 stay back, there's really more than 8, tying in with the more than 8 gym leaders thread) and we go along like a normal trainer like every other game and have struggles like every other game, but you notice bad things occuring in the region as you get closer to the area the legendary is. There's a team but the team is a vigilante team and trying to stop it without gym leaders/e4 knowing. Everyone thinks that they are evil though, given that in the past every region has had an evil team. However! Once you get to the 8th gym and bypass there, you realise what the "evil" team is doing and they explain that they're fighting the evil Pokemon too but the gym leaders/e4 keep getting in their way. Then they tell you why the third mon was evil, which is because its heart was corrupted, a throwback to Colloseum/XD and the third generation in general. Only you can help restore its heart, as gym leaders/e4 notice a fighting spirit within you, or something within you. Then after that you confront the evil Pokemon, and at first you fail. You're disheartened, everyone is disappointed in you, etc, but then the front way out is blocked, so you go the back way, and there you find Xerneas or Yveltal, and together you and the Pokemon go together (and its ability trumps the other Pokemon, somehow) and face the evil Pokemon and purify its heart. Then you go off on your way to defeat the remaining gym leaders, and the elite four - however at that time the "vigilante" team is annoyed that you were heroic and sets out to sabotage you and kidnap your Pokemon specifically etc, so it's effectively like two different stories that tie in really well. In the end you defeat them and stand in the hall of fame~~~~

Could be a nice twist :3

EJ February 7th, 2013 6:44 AM

I love the idea you've come up with but we all know GameFreak isn't going to do something relatively elaborate because it's a children's game. Every game has been pretty straightforward and linear...the only game that broke the mold Rampardos has moldbreaker somewhat would be Black & White and its emphasis on story...but that was offset with a extraordinarily linear campaign when compared to previous Gens.

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 6:50 AM

But still, they've bypassed their patterns - B2/W2, gen 6 announced globally, making gen 5 a one-region generation, and B2/W2 even referenced to freezing someone so imo anything is possible, and given this is a brand new generation I'd like to see them do something out of the box, and that's the most out of the box I can think of really!

Miss Doronjo February 7th, 2013 6:51 AM

That doesn't mean they won't still do it. D=
In fact, elaboration can be pretty nice, even for a 'E' for everyone game!

Platinum Lucario February 7th, 2013 7:07 AM

Perhaps the evil team could actually be about genetically modifying the Pokémon? Perhaps their evil intentions is to take control of Xerneas and Yveltal to be able to create their own versions of Pokémon to take over the world? Yeah something along those lines.

As for CoroCoro, I'm kind of getting this feeling that they won't reveal anything new, just probably some things about the Pikachu and Eevee Friends short film. But I hope they reveal more than just that, I hope they reveal Xerneas and Yveltal's types (which I may speculate that Xerneas would be Psychic/Steel-type and Yveltal as a Dark/Fire-type).

And if I doubt they would reveal a new Eeveelution as of yet, probably the new Eeveelution would be revealed on Pokémon Smash... not on the Sunday coming up... but the week after that one. Seeing as they've revealed 2 old Eeveelutions last week and 2 of them the week before as costumes... and I think there was also another two of them revealed the weak after that one as well, but I haven't seen the one on January 20th... so I don't know which two of them were revealed. So which ones have they revealed? Well as far as I know... they've revealed _____, Glaceon, Umbreon, Leafeon, Espeon, Vaporeon. If they have revealed Flareon already, then Jolteon would be shown on Pokémon Smash. But if they've revealed Jolteon already, then they've only got Flareon to go. So yeah... this Pokémon Smash could quite possibly reveal a silhouette of the new Eeveelution.

EJ February 7th, 2013 7:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527248)
I suppose this is what bothers me a bit when concerning speculation. Not you guys specifically, but we all come up with these awesome and really cool ideas that could be in the games(especially concerning the storyline), and knowing GF, it's kind of doubtful that they would really be super elaborate with things, especially knowing what we've been given in the past has pretty much been the same formula.
  • At the beginning of the game, x happens, causing you to do x, and you get your starter Pokemon
  • You then start your adventure and beat all 8 gyms.
  • You challenge the Elite 4 and the champion, and defeat them.

And that's pretty much it(evil teams included, I almost forgot to mention that), but what I really want is for them to really "break off" from the formula a bit, and test the waters with some new things in X/Y. Who knows, it might really resonate well with the fans~!

Yea totally. I seriously would love to see them break away from the status quo they've come up with and surprise us....even though I'm sure some will complain.

EJ February 7th, 2013 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527271)
I kind of felt like a killjoy typing that lmfao but I strongly feel that we're going to get some similar formula or something, which is why I'm not getting my hopes up too much with these games, and I'd like to be pleasantly surprised, if anything.

So far, according to these screenshots, they're definitely different from what we're used to in our traditional main games(what with the screenshot of the main character swinging from a vine and whatnot), seeing as there's probably different methods of exploring, but how far are they really willing to go to break away from what we've been seeing for five generations straight? I at least hope so.

Nah it's cool; sometimes I feel the same way when I keep reminding myself and everyone that GameFreak probably won't add and/or change a WHOLE lot to the games....

.. and I can't help but feel that they'll handhold us through the "new cool features!" like vine-swinging and maybe the roller-skating stuff we've seen as well. That's at least some change!

EJ February 7th, 2013 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527283)
See, that's what made me hopeful at first. Hopefully they include rollerskates instead of the bikes, and hopefully they made exploration of caves and everything else different, and hopefully GF continues on the right track that they've made since B/W and made the storyline more interesting, but how much can we hope, if that makes sense? ;O;

But I'm not going to be pessimistic or anything lmao, I like being positive and just hoping for the best in these games. n_n;

Yea it makes sense but it gets me doubting GameFreak :/ For example, the first two games of a Gen always seem "mediocre" when compared to the 3rd version which always seems to be the more refined, actual product that it was meant to be.

The exception of course being Gen V where we got sequels instead, but even then...those felt like what Black/White 1 should have been; by incorporating some of our old favorites (pokemon-wise) and making us head to the eastern part of the region which was never touched in Black/White1 PreE4.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is, I hope GameFreak nails it on the first iterations, and not one that comes a couple years later. I'll still have fun with X & Y regardless but food for thought!

François February 7th, 2013 8:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7527229)
Well, the third could be worse than Yveltal and Xerneas combined. We hear about it and at first only gym leaders/e4 are fighting it, meaning we can only battle a few who stay back (so 8 stay back, there's really more than 8, tying in with the more than 8 gym leaders thread) and we go along like a normal trainer like every other game and have struggles like every other game, but you notice bad things occuring in the region as you get closer to the area the legendary is. There's a team but the team is a vigilante team and trying to stop it without gym leaders/e4 knowing. Everyone thinks that they are evil though, given that in the past every region has had an evil team. However! Once you get to the 8th gym and bypass there, you realise what the "evil" team is doing and they explain that they're fighting the evil Pokemon too but the gym leaders/e4 keep getting in their way. Then they tell you why the third mon was evil, which is because its heart was corrupted, a throwback to Colloseum/XD and the third generation in general. Only you can help restore its heart, as gym leaders/e4 notice a fighting spirit within you, or something within you. Then after that you confront the evil Pokemon, and at first you fail. You're disheartened, everyone is disappointed in you, etc, but then the front way out is blocked, so you go the back way, and there you find Xerneas or Yveltal, and together you and the Pokemon go together (and its ability trumps the other Pokemon, somehow) and face the evil Pokemon and purify its heart. Then you go off on your way to defeat the remaining gym leaders, and the elite four - however at that time the "vigilante" team is annoyed that you were heroic and sets out to sabotage you and kidnap your Pokemon specifically etc, so it's effectively like two different stories that tie in really well. In the end you defeat them and stand in the hall of fame~~~~

Could be a nice twist :3

You should be in charge of GameFreak.

François February 7th, 2013 9:51 AM

I quite like the STRONG SILENT TYPE thing they currently have going on and wouldn't like that to change. I enjoy the tradition of saying absolutely nothing throughout the entire journey except "yes" and "no".

François February 7th, 2013 10:00 AM

Yeah really I don't mind as long as the dialogue isn't really banal and blah. If you could choose what to say yourself it would be good, but I like to imagine my character is the one person in the region who has an actual personality (and doesn't express it because everyone else is too dull to understand it), so they'd best not ruin that!

Ho-Oh February 7th, 2013 10:02 AM

It could be changed to like 'yup' and 'nah' etc instead of yes and no but I hope we don't get to choose much like phrases in the mall thing which we owned in b2w2 it was annoying :(

François February 7th, 2013 10:04 AM

Yes, eventually I grew tired of my shopkeepers telling customers to die.

EJ February 7th, 2013 11:11 AM

I like having vocal characters but only if it's done right like Commander Shepard in the Mass Effect series or Nathan Drake from Uncharted.

EJ February 7th, 2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527503)
Eh, having actual vocals might be a long way away in Pokemon's case, and I personally hope I don't see it happen because I know tons of people are pretty picky with vocals and it just wouldn't fit within the games at all. u_u

It's one of those unspoken rules such as Link from LoZ never having a voice outside of screams/grunts/yelps. GF won't be adding a voice lol

>unspoken
hah!

mozartm99 February 7th, 2013 11:40 AM

I think it would be cool to have the main character say something every once in while. Even if it is just text.

Pokemaster234 February 7th, 2013 12:21 PM

Actually,they talk.But they never are shown in text. Like in BW2's anime trailer, the main characters
spoke. However,in the games,Nintendo places it like this because"we are the characters"and Nintendo
wants to "make us feel that".Same for TLOZ.

EJ February 7th, 2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokemaster234 (Post 7527533)
Actually,they talk.But they never are shown in text. Like in BW2's anime trailer, the main characters
spoke. However,in the games,Nintendo places it like this because"we are the characters"and Nintendo
wants to "make us feel that".Same for TLOZ.

Yea that's been known...which is why (at least in my part) I disagree with our character having actual dialogue, unless it's done exceptionally well.

But we know GF doesn't change much.

Guy February 7th, 2013 12:48 PM

I much prefer being the strong silent type. It allows us to give the protagonists their own personalities and let's us imagine what they'd say if we were them. Which technically we are them, and that's something I think GameFreak has always aimed for since the very birth of the games. So I don't think we'll ever see prominent dialogue for them other than the basic "Yes" and "No" options and what happened in B2W2. I hope the latter doesn't happens again and is just something that suited that special occasion; fingers crossed.

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 12:50 PM

I think the only words we'll say will still be things like yes, no, go Pokémon, etc.

EJ February 7th, 2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7527572)
I think the only words we'll say will still be things like yes, no, go Pokémon, etc.

The first thing I thought of was hahaha

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34513039.jpg

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:08 PM

I hope they include some better multiplayer minigames. Chasey or hide and seek would be fun to play with friends.

Guy February 7th, 2013 1:15 PM

Can "Egg Emergency" make a comeback? I'd love to see more Stadium/Stadium 2-esque mini-games show up in X and Y. Being on the 3DS, it could work out really well.

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527607)
Ah yes, that reminds me of the mini-games that Pokemon Stadium 2 had. Those were so much fun ;___; Hopefully something like that makes some sort of return?

Yeah, something like that would be great. As long as they don't do what they did in B2W2 and make the person you're playing with invisible.

Cyclone February 7th, 2013 1:19 PM

"Are you a boy or a girl?" "No."

Cyclone

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:26 PM

I hope there are some banks in the games, it will make it feel more grown up. Could teach little kids to save money too (after they just spent their $50 on the game).

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527638)
I guess it would depend...I mean, there are banks in the Mystery Dungeon games, so I suppose it couldn't hurt? n_n It's a nice idea nonetheless~!

I mean, thinking about it, a bank would have to be there in case you would lose your money, and in the main games, it's pretty damn hard to lose your money except when you lose and whit out(and even then, I think you only lose a small portion of it? I don't remember), so I don't think having one would serve that much of a purpose. u_u

It used to be a lot easier to use all your money, but after B2W2, that never happens anymore. I remember how in G/S/C, I'd always use the money I saved with mum to buy the healing items for the E4.

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527649)
That's more or less inevitable though, if you really wanted to be prepared for the E4 and if you had underleveled Pokemon/Pokemon that were around the level of the E4 though, because I used to(and actually still do) the very same thing myself. Whenever I got to the end of Victory Road, I would spend a ridiculous amount on Full Restores and Full Heals and basically be broke afterwards until I beat the E4 u__u.

Though I suppose that's why the Amulet Coin as well as a certain Incense(I don't remember which one) exists, so it's easier to make more money, which means it would be harder to really spend it all.

The Luck Incense and Amulet Coin were too easy to obtain in my opinion. In B2W2, I would I a Lucky Egg on one Pokémon and those items on the rest. I quickly had an abundance of money.

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527690)
But how else would you obtain them? It wouldn't really make any sense for them to make getting these items harder, at least to me.

Well they could make them obtainable later and not let you buy them after the 4th gym.

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 2:46 PM

I wonder how my signature moves will be given to more Pokémon. Heaps of them turned into non-signature in gen V.

EJ February 7th, 2013 2:52 PM

Hmm as for the bank idea. It could be easily executed by incorporating electronic banking. Your trainer card could double as both your ID and bank card so whenever you win/lose a battle you automatically gain/lose money.....actually that sounds like I just came up with some head canon

But yea, at the beginning of the game you could sign up for your bank to receive a percentage of your winnings in a Savings account. Even though this will never happen ;_;

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527749)
What do you mean by that? D: Like, this:

Like how Twineedle could be learnt by Escalivier as well instead of just my good friend, Beedrill.

Pinkie-Dawn February 7th, 2013 4:36 PM

Lets not forget that Rock Wrecker was Rhyperior's signature move before Crustle was able to learn it too.

EJ February 7th, 2013 5:08 PM

I think it'd be neat to see it being used...although i don't know about it being an HM.

EJ February 7th, 2013 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7527928)
I don't think it would have to be an HM again, because Dive is pretty useless outside of going underwater, so yeah. XD;

I guess it could be sort of like Rock Smash and Flash where they used to be HM's but now are simply just TM's that can be used outside of battle.

EJ February 7th, 2013 5:32 PM

:0 that'd be a great idea. Although not a variety in the sky haha except for flying types

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 7:30 PM

I think it'd be interesting if fly worked how it did in Ranger: Guardian Signs, that was pretty enjoyable.

EJ February 7th, 2013 8:03 PM

YES! That's the first thing I thought of when flying around was mentioned. Though I never played Guardian signs entirely so I only remember the intro of your character riding a Staraptor.


@twilight sky: I did love digging around for fossils and stuff. It was like a nice little mini-game. Nah, you're not asking for too much!

vaporeon7 February 7th, 2013 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by .EJ (Post 7528133)
YES! That's the first thing I thought of when flying around was mentioned. Though I never played Guardian signs entirely so I only remember the intro of your character riding a Staraptor.


@twilight sky: I did love digging around for fossils and stuff. It was like a nice little mini-game. Nah, you're not asking for too much!

Basically you could control where you flew to, and you could encounter Pokémon in the sky. It was great!

SnowpointQuincy February 7th, 2013 8:34 PM

Does it feel like forever since Nintendo said anything about Pokemon? It has been like a month with no new info. I would lake to see 1 or 2 little spoilers a month till October.

EJ February 7th, 2013 8:36 PM

Uhh there's speculation that we'll get news in the upcoming weeks but idk much about that.

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7528165)
Basically you could control where you flew to, and you could encounter Pokémon in the sky. It was great!

OH cool. This is the game with the pichu that plays an ukulele right? I never got to actual exploration in the sky. I wish the main series games would incorporate some ideas from the side games.

EJ February 7th, 2013 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7528206)
We should be getting some scans from CoroCoro sometime next week or so?? Around there, someone can correct me on that. @[email protected]

I believe this is correct yea. At least that's what I heard in some other sites.

Hikamaru February 7th, 2013 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7528206)
We should be getting some scans from CoroCoro sometime next week or so?? Around there, someone can correct me on that. @[email protected]

Awesome, can't wait for new details. It's now a month since the announcement from Satoru Iwata went live.

Maybe they might reveal some Gym Leaders or new Pokemon or something?

Xander Olivieri February 7th, 2013 9:00 PM

No guarantee that we'll get anything from CoroCoro since they news won't be region specific anymore. If they release news it'll most likely be done at the same point and time. Even of they did a Pokemon Smash episode, we'd know about any new details roughly the same day with the international Pokemon websites.

I believe the same for Coro Coro.


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