Those names are still better than Hilda and Hilbert. Though they sound too stereotypical (BW by far didn't go with stereotypical American names), and are from 4 chan so they're vitually 100 percent fake.
Ho-Oh
February 24th, 2013 9:04 AM
Nono Hilda and Hilbert weren't as bad as this :( besides those were unique namings in that they started with the same letter so I don't think it'll reoccur again soon (plz).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 24th, 2013 9:08 AM
We got used to Hilda and Hilbert though so even if these were true (unlikely) we'll do the same. Personally I perfer Jane to Hilda.
Platinum Lucario
February 24th, 2013 10:01 AM
Hm... y'know... I'm pretty sure The Pokémon Company would come up with a much more better name than any of the names rumored on 4chan and Hilbert and Hilda.
I would never believe anything from 4chan, really. :x
But apart from that, I'm feeling like that Pokémon X and Y will have sequels and follow the same pattern as Black and White, 'cause I don't think I've ever heard of a "Z" chromosome before, I only know of an X or Y chromosome. They're almost like the Yin Yang of Pokémon Black and White in a way. xD
gold/silverFTW
February 24th, 2013 11:52 AM
I don't really like the ideas for the legendaries. What does cards have to do with time? But I do like the time travel idea. Like what if there is a bustling city in the present, and in the past its a tiny village. That would be interesting. I find this very hard to believe though, and if its real, I'd be very disappointed. :(
vaporeon7
February 24th, 2013 12:39 PM
I would be annoyed if they used Jane.
It would make me think of the King of the Hill episode about the Jane cult too much.
roosterman
February 24th, 2013 1:09 PM
guys! i just got this idea. i was wondering what the legendary dogs were before they died so, well, i did what anyone would do and googled it. i found an old thread from 2009 on some other forum and everyone was arguing about what they were. several of them said it was jolteon, flareon, and vaporeon, 2 thought it was 3 bidoof, but most of them were saying that the story was made so that they could give them some origin forms in heart gold and soul silver. seeing as everyone says X and Y are about genetics, i think this could be a possibility, reviving them like they did with mewtwo, fossils, and genesect. whadaya think?
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 24th, 2013 2:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokémonShinySilver
(Post 7552691)
Hm... y'know... I'm pretty sure The Pokémon Company would come up with a much more better name than any of the names rumored on 4chan and Hilbert and Hilda.
I would never believe anything from 4chan, really. :x
But apart from that, I'm feeling like that Pokémon X and Y will have sequels and follow the same pattern as Black and White, 'cause I don't think I've ever heard of a "Z" chromosome before, I only know of an X or Y chromosome. They're almost like the Yin Yang of Pokémon Black and White in a way. xD
Well it's said that GF planned to make a third version to BW but decided to do sequels instead to please Nintendo who were annoyed at the game not being a 3Ds game so they were made to do something beyond the normal third version. So "Grey" was dumped due to executive meddling per say.
Also Google Z and W chromosomes. Even if they were to make sequels I hope it'll be W and Z rather than to give them numbers, it'll seem more original that way.
Napsy
February 24th, 2013 2:56 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Napsy
I can't have been the only person to say this; but, What if Sylveon was a gender based pokemon with a 100% female ratio?
And they released a male counterpart?
Quote:
Holy ****, you are smart!!!!!!
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not gomen ;-;
Logiedan
February 24th, 2013 3:03 PM
I speculated that as well.
And I think the names are just fake, only because of John and Jane Doe. lol. And I don't get why they would randomly have names no longer customizable. It's your own save file and 'exploration of the generation' so I don't see that possible at all.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 24th, 2013 3:05 PM
If they do a male only eeveelution I see as either rock or Fighting, and Fighting fits with Sylveon if it's either Normal or Flying. However it may just be one of those feminine looking mons.
Archeops12354
February 24th, 2013 3:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Napsy
(Post 7553183)
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not gomen ;-;
No, I just never thought of what you wrote...
Pinkie-Dawn
February 24th, 2013 3:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerilyn
(Post 7552401)
It definitely doesn't seem to be as painful as the thought of Doduos spinning their necks like a helicopter trying to fly. Oh gosh...
On another note, not sure if anyone brought this up before but, it seems as though more rumors are floating around 4chan based on this article here, Pokémon X And Pokémon Y To Bring Significant Changes To Series? I'm almost 99.9% these are fake, but there are some pretty cool ideas in there. One of the interesting things that stuck out to me is the plot being heavily influence by past and present time travel and how the past affects the present and future. Also, there's some cool new "rumored" items and info on the new Legendary Pokémon.
For something that's likely fake, it's a good read.
Actually, the rumor originated from 4chan, but My Nintendo News took it as real news, even though they shouldn't, and made it into an article.
Now regarding the protagonists' names, aren't their official names revealed by the game's release? It's kinda strange to reveal them so early. Isn't Jean a girl's name?
Sabrewulf238
February 24th, 2013 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn
(Post 7553280)
Isn't Jean a girl's name?
No Jean can be a man's name.
vaporeon7
February 24th, 2013 11:41 PM
Jean would be too obvious for a default name. Jean... gene. Come on.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2013 12:02 AM
How about Joanne for the girl.
Hikamaru
February 25th, 2013 12:06 AM
I was a bit surprised by these names stated by 4chan, I don't think they have anything to do with the main "genetics" theme of the game not to mention how similar the names are.
Anyways, I'm hoping for Sugimori art of the protagonists to get released soon.
@Logiedan: I agree with you, I think the names are fake, I don't usually trust 4chan with these things.
Mujahid
February 25th, 2013 12:08 AM
I expect this coro coro to give protagonists and the Region. Won't be surprised if we get a couple of pokemons too. And ofc ,data on sylveon.
Hikamaru
February 25th, 2013 12:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mujahid
(Post 7553798)
I expect this coro coro to give protagonists and the Region. Won't be surprised if we get a couple of pokemons too. And ofc ,data on sylveon.
I'm agreeing, I think the next CoroCoro might give the protagonist official art + names, region name and design, maybe some new Pokemon and they might even throw in Sylveon's type.
I'm surprised how very little news has been surfacing, that might be the problem with worldwide releases in one month.
vaporeon7
February 25th, 2013 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hikari10
(Post 7553809)
I'm agreeing, I think the next CoroCoro might give the protagonist official art + names, region name and design, maybe some new Pokemon and they might even throw in Sylveon's type.
I'm surprised how very little news has been surfacing, that might be the problem with worldwide releases in one month.
As I said before, you have Jean, which sounds the same as gene.
It would make the OT look weird, with all new Pokémon having one of the two.
Starry Windy
February 25th, 2013 12:27 AM
I think the next Corocoro might reveal some city in the new region of Pokemon X and Y as well.
Cerberus87
February 25th, 2013 12:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaporeon7
(Post 7553815)
As I said before, you have Jean, which sounds the same as gene.
It would make the OT look weird, with all new Pokémon having one of the two.
Jean is a French name (equal to John), and its pronunciation in French is nothing like the word "gene".
Anyway, despite the rumours of Xavier, I think X is the girls' game (because of the XX chromosome), so the male protag's name will probably start with Y.
Guy
February 25th, 2013 4:19 AM
I don't expect the names to tie into either game titles. This hasn't been done since the days of RBG and GSC. Also, looking back at the other protagonists' names from games before, they hardly even had any relation to the overall theme, if at all.
Ho-Oh
February 25th, 2013 4:59 AM
I feel like they'll likely break that and name it after X and Y given well, they are letters and nothing else, so it'd make sense for the characters to go with the letters.
Ho-Oh
February 25th, 2013 5:18 AM
Yes and Hilda and Hilbert also aren't everyday names either ;( Buyeah because of those, anything is really possible tbh.
Mark Kamill
February 25th, 2013 7:40 AM
Xavier and Yvette for the protag names, I won't accept anything else. I want GF to go stir crazy with the old habits of the game like some kind of rebound from all the fresh and shocking that gen 5 brought us.
Napsy
February 25th, 2013 7:43 AM
Or what if they just had names with X and Y inside, but they made a big sound on the name.
Like.... Alexandra, Alexis, Roxy, Trixie, and my personal favorite: Maxine.
As for the male, there's PLENTY of names with Y in them so.. it could really be anything.
Ho-Oh
February 25th, 2013 7:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Napsy
(Post 7554145)
Or what if they just had names with X and Y inside, but they made a big sound on the name.
Like.... Alexandra, Alexis, Roxy, Trixie, and my personal favorite: Maxine.
As for the male, there's PLENTY of names with Y in them so.. it could really be anything.
Roxy will be unlikely because of B2/W2's gym leader :( Maxine probably not because of R/S, iirc? Alexis is awesome though, and something along those likes I would approve of!
Napsy
February 25th, 2013 7:57 AM
Shoot. I totally knew that.
But yeah, I really do like Yvette and Xavier too though. If everything follows up correctly with gen 6 being based on Europe; then the names would also work really well.... because, well, they sound European!
Platinum Lucario
February 25th, 2013 8:35 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking the names of the player would be somewhat along the lines of X or Y, especially all having either an X or Y in their name, knowing that the Legendary Pokémon Xerneas and Yveltal had those letters at the beginning of their name.
Enteilord666
February 25th, 2013 8:51 AM
I saw the trailer. I'm going for X because of the awesome looking legendary. Fennekin looks great the other two are just lame. I know who I'm choosing. X and Y could make better starters like Hoenn where I could choose anybody and still enjoy the game. Can it be palyed on Nintendo ds?
Ho-Oh
February 25th, 2013 9:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enteilord666
(Post 7554205)
I saw the trailer. I'm going for X because of the awesome looking legendary. Fennekin looks great the other two are just lame. I know who I'm choosing. X and Y could make better starters like Hoenn where I could choose anybody and still enjoy the game. Can it be palyed on Nintendo ds?
Nope sadly no Nintendo DS, only the 3DS this time around. :( But I guess by then the price of the 3DS might've gone down??
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 25th, 2013 9:57 AM
If the girl is X she can be Xantha, and if the Boy is Y than maybe Yael (or Yale depending on how they want to spell it).
Or maybe the boy can be Yves which happens to be of french origin and comes from the name of a saint (the name Xavier also originates from a saint's name btw) and it sounds like Yvetal too.
Esper
February 25th, 2013 12:01 PM
Trying to come up with names that start with X and Y... they all just seem too forced. The protagonists' names don't need to be related to X and Y, really. There never ended up being a player character named Blake (or Blair or whatever) in BW or BW2 after all.
JayTheKing
February 25th, 2013 1:40 PM
Do you think we will be able to walk diagonally with the analog stick?
Diversion
February 25th, 2013 1:50 PM
Well maybe you can walk diagonally,
since it has the circle pad,which looks like an analog.
But I'm not really used to it,I'm used to: Up, down, left, and right.
Mark Kamill
February 25th, 2013 2:33 PM
I dunno, trailer looked kind of grid based, but something tells me it looks awkward cause the transition from 2D to 3D is something like the Shin Megami Tensei transition. Nocturne and IV look a bit on rails 4 way movement, but there is full 360 movement. I hope this is the case, but the 4x4 grass patches on route 3 have me doubtful.
Guy
February 25th, 2013 2:56 PM
While the possibility is there, I don't see GameFreak straying from the grid base movement; not yet anyway. If you look around the 0:58 mark of the trailer, there doesn't seem to be any suggestions of free wide motion based on how they controlled the player and the female following him.
Miss Doronjo
February 25th, 2013 2:59 PM
It'd be sort of a disappointment if they just stick to the original left, right, up, and down movement, to be honest. Plus, it'd feel very awkward if one were to use the circular direction pad.
Xander Olivieri
February 25th, 2013 3:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7554239)
By then the 3DS would be like 100 bucks, I'd imagine, so there'd be little excuse to miss out, really. :x
The systems only drop to 100 when they are about to be discontinued. Expect the 3DS to remain at 170 for another year or so. Then maybe it'll drop to 150, but it'll be a long time before the 3DS' drop to the discontinued price. 5 or 6 years.
vaporeon7
February 25th, 2013 3:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7554600)
The systems only drop to 100 when they are about to be discontinued. Expect the 3DS to remain at 170 for another year or so. Then maybe it'll drop to 150, but it'll be a long time before the 3DS' drop to the discontinued price. 5 or 6 years.
I've seen the 3DS in Australia on sale for $119 in store. And pretty much everything is more expensive here. (despite our higher dollar)
Chaos Lucario
February 25th, 2013 5:20 PM
well, i'm going to get Y version, because of Yveltal's pattern's, if you notice and you played Gen3 games, its patterns relate to Groudon, one of my favorite pokemon, but from a youtube video, i saw there is a possibility of being able to CUSTOMIZE your character, which in probobaly everyone's oppinion, is epic, and i see no reason that you can't simply choos an original poketrainer, such as Gold, or my favorite, Red! i think that would be cool! but it's not out yet and we'll just have to wait. only time will tell!
vaporeon7
February 25th, 2013 5:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Lucario
(Post 7554719)
well, i'm going to get Y version, because of Yveltal's pattern's, if you notice and you played Gen3 games, its patterns relate to Groudon, one of my favorite pokemon, but from a youtube video, i saw there is a possibility of being able to CUSTOMIZE your character, which in probobaly everyone's oppinion, is epic, and i see no reason that you can't simply choos an original poketrainer, such as Gold, or my favorite, Red! i think that would be cool! but it's not out yet and we'll just have to wait. only time will tell!
I doubt you'd be able to ever choose a previous character because trainers like Red could appear in future games. Imagine if you played as Red and you could battle him later in the game like you could in Johto and Unova.
hughes
February 25th, 2013 6:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7554600)
The systems only drop to 100 when they are about to be discontinued. Expect the 3DS to remain at 170 for another year or so. Then maybe it'll drop to 150, but it'll be a long time before the 3DS' drop to the discontinued price. 5 or 6 years.
This. Honestly, I would think with this game coming out, 3DS prices for used ones will only go up (if anyone was looking for a used one). I got mine used on ebay for $92, had a couple dings on it, but it came with everything except an SD card so I couldn't complain. Try ebay if anyone is really looking for a deal.
Ho-Oh
February 25th, 2013 6:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaporeon7
(Post 7554630)
I've seen the 3DS in Australia on sale for $119 in store. And pretty much everything is more expensive here. (despite our higher dollar)
That was the cheap sale, though :x Otherwise it's usually a lot more. Maybe they'll have cheap trade in deals around that time, I guess!!
vaporeon7
February 25th, 2013 7:25 PM
Well at least the 3DS XL has drove down the price a bit of the normal 3DS.
Pinta77
February 25th, 2013 8:23 PM
A Scary Thought
What if Pokemon X & Y suck? Bare with me. Gaming in general has gotten lazy. You pay $60 dollars for new a ps3 that you can beat in a day!
So think about it. Gamefreak/Nintendo is putting effort into all the 3d models, making an entirely 3d map, and everything! Do you think they are going to put less effort into the storyline because of this?
Sirfetch’d
February 25th, 2013 8:54 PM
I think the games will be ok. I know it seems like most of the thought will go into making all of the 3D models and effects, but GF always has a way of making the games great and I doubt X&Y will be any different.
CloysterOyster
February 25th, 2013 9:48 PM
Hold your breath and wait I guess. I don't buy the new consoles and games anymore but I still study the newer Pokémon and the 6th generation gives me more to work with now.
Guy
February 26th, 2013 3:52 AM
Rather than have its own thread, I think this is a perfect little topic to discuss over in the X/Y General Chat and Speculation area. /merges
If these games suck, then you'll probably find me sitting alone in a dark corner crying.
Miss Doronjo
February 26th, 2013 4:16 AM
I'd certainly be disappointed~! However, I would still play the game, and see if I can warm up to it. I do that all the time; I used to did not like D/P until I've played it a few times, and now I easily love the storyline. I see that X&Y can just be enjoyable a few times around too.
silvereyes
February 26th, 2013 5:31 AM
Does anyone else think you'll have the option of trainer customization? I say this because of the sunglasses in the beginning when the trainer is staring into the mirror are gone when the trainer is running from the Eiffel Tower towards the end. Maybe small changes such as accessories?
Platinum Lucario
February 26th, 2013 6:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7555452)
See, here's the thing: I'd love for trainer customization to be introduced, but what are the chances of it really happening? I mentioned before that if anything, we would've seen screenshots of the main protagonists in different clothing of some sort, finally putting the character customization rumours to rest and all...but we haven't, so that's why I'm a bit skeptical really. I mean, I thought the sunglasses were part of the male protag's design? If not, then I can see them allowing small, customizations, but I'm not getting my hopes up on them allowing you to "pimp" out your character, so to speak. >.>
Yeah, after all... there is another hint on being able to customize your character in X and Y. There was a glitch just right when the player swung over the vine and his sunglasses were left behind, floating in the air.
But if it all turns out that there won't be customization... then I'd assume the sunglasses serve as some kind of special purpose, if not being an accessory.
Vapie
February 26th, 2013 7:06 AM
The games could possibly suck entirely. It does seem a bit rushed. But it would take a lot for me to hate a Pokemon game. I'd give it so many chances, because I'm so positively biased to the franchise.
EJ
February 26th, 2013 7:20 AM
I'm sure those deficiencies will be overlooked by a lot of us BECAUSE 3D POKEMON WOOO THREE-DIMENSIONALALALA
vaporeon7
February 26th, 2013 12:08 PM
At least with it on the 3DS, a patch is possible is something is really bad.
Mark Kamill
February 26th, 2013 12:39 PM
It just means if there is a game breaking bug or a loophole for duplication or custom DNS servers GF can easily patch the games to not work with them, like Mario Kart 7 was fixed so certain tracks won't have shortcuts that shouldn't be.
Mark Kamill
February 26th, 2013 1:14 PM
It won't. The worse it can do is that for those long stretches of grinding the animations taking 3-4 seconds each can get very tedious.
Xander Olivieri
February 26th, 2013 1:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaporeon7
(Post 7554934)
Well at least the 3DS XL has drove down the price a bit of the normal 3DS.
The 3DS XL didn't change the price of the 3DS at all....Dunno where you got that info from. The 3DS (going to go by prices here in the US) was 250 upon release. A few months later it dropped to 170. When the 3DS XL came out last year, the 3DS' price was still 170 and the XL's is 200.
Nintendo didn't drop the 3DS's price at all since the XL's release. I don't see another price drop for another 2 years at the least. They also won't drop to the 100 range until the successor to the 3DS is released in like 4 or 5 years at the least. When the systems drop to $99 then the system is being or is already discontinued.
RandomDSdevel
February 26th, 2013 2:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerilyn
(Post 7543658)
The animation is so pretty though.
Actually, I really liked the Generation IV trading animation better…
Konekodemon
February 26th, 2013 3:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .EJ
(Post 7514139)
In Totodile's case they based it off an animal that already has legs and made him a bipedal aka why Feraligatr still has four legs yet can walk on two. In the case of this Dolphin starter...there are no legs and it'd be a pokemon forced to live in the water.
This defeats the point of a dolphin ever being a starter pokemon for children because in the Pokemon canon the starter pokemon are supposed to be easy to train while pokemon based on fish/aquatic animals are limited to being near a body of water, or in it!
Dolphins don't live outside of water lol
But that's still no reason to be rude and try to force me to believe differently.
Xander Olivieri
February 26th, 2013 3:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556162)
Well, that entirely depends on where you go, and whether or not you buy it new or used. Amazon has a DS here for at least $115 used, and here's one for $109 used.
Of course, that also depends on the kind of person you are and whether or not you'll settle for a used 3DS. XD
Sites like Amazon and Ebay don't qualify for actual sales metrics. They are third party trading companies that hardly ever follow properly set price guides since a lot of the salers are regular people trying to make a quick buck and usually recieve their items in questionable means. Ebay and Amazon can also upcharge you to 3x the normal price. I've seen 3DS' on Ebay go for $500.
As for New vs Used, Used has a preset % difference from the current sales price that is set by Nintendo so Nintendo indirectly controls the used price as well.
Miss Doronjo
February 26th, 2013 4:11 PM
The 3D graphics in the game is definitely a step-up from our traditional 2-D sprites, imo. This new feel of pokemon game play can be quite refreshing for new and old players! Well, of course, the graphics are not final, and it's not perfect, but hell, I love this new graphic style!
RandomDSdevel
February 26th, 2013 4:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iTeruri
(Post 7548197)
That makes sense.
Japan gets them first because it's where the games are made.
The US gets them second, because translating from Japenese to English makes sense.
A delay between the American release and the Australian release makes no sense, but it's there.
Then the translation to the other European languages begins, so the games can be released in Europe (in all languages at the same time).
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More than likely I'll get the games the day before the release date. I think Diamond might've been the last Pokémon game I bought on the release date, all others I bought before the official release date (with Black being the exception, but I got white the day before the release). I even got my 3DS the day before the official release (does that make me a very early adopter?).
Uh, guys, you forgot something:
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel
(Post 7536756)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that owners of the American 3DS can change their system's language between American English, Latin-American Spanish, Canadian French, and Brazilian Portuguese in their settings…
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru
(Post 7548162)
I was looking at Pokémon X and Pokémon Y as names and I have come to the conclusion that Pokémon Y, aesthetically, looks extremely awkward. Especially all by itself.
...
Pokémon Y...
...
So awkward.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerilyn
(Post 7548187)
When found alone, Y can be an awkward letter. I just hope that if there's a third game, Pokémon W won't be the title. Now that's awkward.
...
Pokémon W...
....
Definitely worse than Pokémon Y when by itself.
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Originally Posted by Aerilyn
(Post 7548560)
Like Y, W by itself just seems awkward but more so. If they were to title whatever third game we get Pokémon W, whatever OCD I may have is going to kick in and all I'll see it as is an abbreviation of Pokémon White.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7548581)
It seems like the third game's name would likely be Z, because that name is completely badass and because it possibly can't be anything else but Z, because that name is so freaking cool. ;O;
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo
(Post 7548587)
Another possibility is that it can be something like XX or XY, from the whole genetics speculations I guess~!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire
(Post 7548714)
Unless they decide to leave out DLC from these games... it's possible.
Though I agree with the W and Z for sequels, after all W and Z make up a another sex-chromosome pair (birds irc).
You guys do know that I thought of this first in the following, quoted post?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel
(Post 7536756)
Actually, only mammals use the X/Y sex-determination system; birds use the Z/W one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238
(Post 7549437)
The whole "this info will shock, anger or relieve" makes me very suspicious.
I'm not buying it at all. Also Pinsir should get an evolution not a baby form....
edit: Just read further and saw he mentioned a Pinsir evolution along with a baby form.....eh I don't know why I'm even bothering.
But Pinsir could share a pre-evolution with Heracross if it had one, couldn't it?
Xander Olivieri
February 26th, 2013 4:41 PM
Oh cool~ UK is getting their own Pokemon Centered Magazine~
Looks like we have another news source for Pokemon X and Pokemon Y about to come in~
Livewire
February 26th, 2013 4:43 PM
please please please show Sylveon's typing so people stop talking about it PLEASE
RandomDSdevel
February 26th, 2013 4:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556280)
I don't think it matters much who thought of what first, topics can get a bit repetitive here and there, and with the lack of information we've been getting, it should be expected, just saying! :x
Oh, right; sorry, I just want people to remember me!
Pinkie-Dawn
February 26th, 2013 8:22 PM
Remember that 4chan user who spread the latest rumors such as Jean and Jane and 99 new Pokemon? Well he's back, and he's spreading the exact same rumors, only in more detail:
Spoiler:
Quote:
First off, for those of you who screen capped the original thread, feel free to check my trip with that of the original. There have been multiple people posting as "Mr. XY' lately, but I have not posted since the original thread.
Second of all, in the original thread I made this more clear, but my phrasing of the "main characters are named Jean and Jane, non-customizable" was meant to reference customizing their designs, not their names. Sorry for the confusion.
Anyway, I have compiled a list of all the New Pokemon I know of, about 80 or so of the 99. Some of them I have only heard about from fellow co-workers and second-hand sources, while others I have seen myself. Mainly, there's a few "new line" Pokemon I have yet to see, or don't have much information on, so there are some gaps left to fill. With New Evolutions and Baby Pokemon, there are also quite a few of them I've yet to see for myself, yet I have heard which Pokemon are obtaining them.
As I said before, this Generation has a large amount of New Evolutions and Baby Pokemon, while the New-Line Pokemon are less orthodox than previous Gens, bumping old Generational archetypes (there's no real early-bird, rodent, or bug this time around) in favor of mostly new, or underused, type combinations.
There are a large amount of Old Pokemon present during the main campaign, the Regional Dex around 400 I believe including the New Pokemon. New Evolutions are, I believe, obtainable during the main campaign and not pushed towards the end like in Diamond and Pearl. On the note of Old Pokemon, Gen V Pokemon can be transfered over, although I do not know the exact mechanics of the transfer process.
Starters
*Chespin
*Chespin Evo (Grass). Sharpens up, little whirligig on hood.
*Chespin Final (Grass/Flying). "Mammalian Garchomp", helicopter-based.
*Fennekin
*Fennekin Evo (Fire/Psychic). Lotus-shaped ear fluffs.
*Fennekin Final (Fire/Psychic). Tail splits into lotus-shape as well, very majestic and Ninetales-like.
*Froakie
*Froakie Evo (Water). Grows a horn, gets larger and more cloud fluff.
*Froakie Final (Water). Huge, horned frog with clouds covering its body.
New Lines
*"Robo" Mouse (Electric/Steel). New Pikachu? Metallic mouse with computer mouse plug tail.
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*Straight-jacket Ghost (Ghost/Steel). Shadowy, creature with a roundish head, thin body. Has metallic chains wrapped around its chest resembling a straight-jacket.
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*White Feathered Dinosaur (Rock/Ice). One of the Fossil Pokemon I believe. Bipedal, and raptor like, with white feathers covering its body. Has on a feathery "mask" making it resemble an owl.
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*Red Feathered Dinosaur (Rock/Fire). Other Fossil Pokemon it seems. Has reddish-brown and black feathers, and a red comb on its head making it resemble a rooster.
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*Crystal Girl (Psychic/Ice). Magical girl creature sleeping in a magical looking crystal that's floating.
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*Music Ox (Rock/Ground). Very large, black-furred ox. It has large white, horns that resemble tubas "they open at the end", and it has curled, white hair that looks like an old-fashioned powdered wig.
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*Bodyguard Gargoyle (Dragon/Fighting). Grayish, doggish gargoyle creature that's very stout and tough looking. It has red patterns on its arms that look like tattoos, and little red earrings.
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*Scent Dog (Normal). Little, hound dog with a prominent nose. Probably the "plainest" of the New Pokemon.
*Hunting Dog (Normal). Evolution. Larger, with floppy ears covering its eyes, and an ever larger nose.
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*Trashcan Monster (Poison/Steel). Trashcan with leech-like mouth, looks "cartoony" as it bends in ways metal should not.
*Dumpster Monster (Poison/Steel). Evolution. Dumpster (still "cartoony" though) with trash compactor mouth. Predatory relationship with previous pollution-based Pokemon I hear.
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*Black Bird Monk (Flying/Fighting). Small and little, with bowl-cut "hair" feathers, long nose, and black/white feathers. Has "glove" looking hand-feathers. Resembles a black/white monk outfit, or martial arts outfit.
*Black Bird Monk Evo (Flying/Fighting). Evolution. Larger, more crow-looking. I believe the line is inspired by Bruce Lee, because their appearance resembles the famous black/white outfit he's known for.
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*Locust Ninja (Bug/Dark). Green and purple bipedal little bug, with its body resembling "ninja" armor a bit, with little scythe arms. Has under-bite with little teeth that stretch up past its head.
*Locust Assassin (Bug/Dark). Evolution. Looks more "ferocious", with longer scythes, meaner face, and two sets of "underbite" teeth.
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*Kangaroo (Normal). Resembles a peach-colored, little kangaroo. It looks like a normal one compared to Kangaskahn, and is much cuter. No pouch.
*Fighting Kangaroo (Normal/Fighting). Evolution. Larger, and tougher looking. Has black spots around its eyes, and little black "armor pads" running down its tail. Instead of a pouch, has an x-shaped bandage on its stomach.
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*Blue Fishing Cat (Water). It's a bluish wild cat with black spots, and its ears resemble fish-fins. Also has a curvy, hook-like tail.
*Metallic Fishing Cat (Water/Steel). Evolution. Larger, leopard like. It has longer, curved talons, and a thin metal "rod" runs along its back, ending with a long, steel hooked tail.
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*Coconut Soldier (Grass/Fire). Has a coconut army helmet with a green palm on the top. Main body is roundish, red/green "camo" colored, and it's got a protruding "cannon" mouth.
*Guerrilla Coconut (Grass/Fire). Evolution. Personally my favorite new design yet. Resembles first form, but now has a large bush surroundings its body, in addition to two sprouting out of its head, as if to camouflage itself.
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*Mud Pig (Ground/Fighting). Small, roundish bipedal warthog with a red Mohawk, and mud covering its pink body on its bottom half, making it look like it has on shorts.
*Mud Pig Evo (Ground/Fighting). Evolution. Larger, very muscular looking like a wrestler. Also has mud covering its face, looking like a mask, and prominent lips sticking out. Resembles Kinnikuman.
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*Ice Bug (Bug/Ice). Little, white caterpillar creature. Has white "cocoon" wrapped around its body like a snow jacket, including a part at its neck where two strands hang out like a scarf.
*Stained Glass Moth (Bug/Ice). Evolution. White, pretty moth with striking, icy wings that are multi-colored and resemble stained-glass windows.
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*Melting Lizard (Poison/Ground). Quadrupedal, fat little lizard that's orange with black patterns on it. It's got oil substance falling out of its mouth, and little oil splotches around its feet.
*Melting Lizard Evo (Poison/Ground). Evolution. Larger, and its whole body has a "dripping" look to it, like its falling off. It's legs are "unseen", as the art has it emerging from a pool of black oil. I think it can "melt" into it.
*Star Creature Pseudo-Legend (Dark/Electric). Little yellow-black star-shaped creature, sort of dragon-like.
*Planet Creature Pseudo-Legend (Dark/Electric). Evolution. Very spherical, planet-like with yellow "saturn" ring around body.
*Black Hole Creature Pseudo-Legend (Dark/Electric). Final Evolution. Humanoid, with vortex patterns on its body that swirl inward. Line seems to be based on "star life cycle". Presumably Pseudo, as they come before Legendaries it seems.
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*Clover Dragon (Grass/Dragon). Small, bipedal yellow "European" dragon with green wings and tail. Its wings have little clover leafs on them.
*Clover Dragon Evo (Grass/Dragon). Evolution. Larger, slightly more serpentine, with more clover leaves on it. Has four legs in addition to wings.
*Clover Dragon Final (Grass/Dragon). Final Evolution. Very elongated, with multiple legs, two sets of wings, with clovers sprouting out over its body.
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*Ghost Jellyfish (Water/Ghost). Weird, white "ghost sheet" jellyfish, with a little dark-blue body underneath.
*Ghost Dolphin (Water/Ghost). Evolution. Still has the white ghost-sheet top, and dark-blue lower body, but resembles a dolphin more so.
*Ghost Whale (Water/Ghost). Final Evolution. Resembles a killer whale, with the white ghost-sheet covering the front-part of its body, although there are holes in parts of it giving it the spots you see on an orca.
Baby Pokemon
*Pinsir (Bug). Stag beetle with "shield" shell.
*Heracross (Bug). Roundish, roly-poly
*Girafarig (Normal). Small giraffe part, larger black tail. Giraffe ducking down, the tail is in the "head" position.
*Bouffalant (Normal). Fluffy afro with legs/nose popping out. Has gold comb-shaped objects on sides of afro.
*Lapras (Water). Smaller, shell-less, horn-less lighter-blue Lapras.
*Tropius (Grass).Banana-horned, yellow Saurolophus.
*Skarmory (Normal/Flying). Brown, stealth-jet shaped bird with red wings like Skarmory. Not metallic.
*Lickitung (Normal?). Yet to see myself.
*Carnivine (Grass?). Yet to see myself.
*Sigilyph (Psychic/Flying?). Yet to see myself.
*Druddigon (Dragon). Yet to see myself.
Evolutions
*Sylveon (Normal). Bond Evolution.
*Pinsir (Bug). Four-armed, four-horned with detachable horns it wields like swords.
*Hariyama (Fighting). Mountain-colored, with white hair and beard.
*Lumineon (Water). Red highlights and infinity-symbol fins.
*Flaaffy Split (Electric). Neon-blue ram with pink fluff. Tesla-coil horns.
*Darumaka Split (Fire/Ice). Snowman ape, with dull flame eyebrows and orange spots running down chest.
*Farfetch'd (Normal/Flying). Leek transforms into large, leek sword with stoic face. Farfetch'd stays the same.
*Sawk (Fighting). Sleeves rip, gets buff. Spiky, "Bart Simpson" head and extra eyebrow.
*Throh (Fighting). Chest rips, showing pecs. Grows spikes on chest and shoulders. Eyebrows thicken.
*Bronzor Split (Steel/Psychic). Mirror. Mirror surrounded by metallic blue frame, with eyes and arms below the mirror part.
*Starmie (Water/Psychic). Looks more...futuristic, platinum-colored. Has little "starships" circling around it. Seems to be a nod to "shoot the core" shoot-em-up bosses.
*Houndoom (Dark/Fire). Has canine-skulls with red-eyes on shoulders, giving it a Cerberus-thing going on.
*Claydol Evolution (Ground/Psychic). Very elaborate looking, body becomes more humanoid and "feminine" with wide hips and "breasts". Seems to be fertility idol or something.
*Persian (Normal?). Yet to see myself.
*Sableye (Dark/Ghost?). Yet to see myself.
*Combee (Bug/Flying?). Yet to see myself. Perhaps a Male Combee Evolution?
*Audino (Normal?). Yet to see myself.
*Torkoal (Fire?). Yet to see myself.
*Qwilfish (Water/Poison?). Yet to see myself.
Here is the list of Gym Leaders and Elite Four, at least in the present. I have heard that there are additional Gyms in the past that are available during the post-game, but I am unsure of how many there are and what they're like.
GYM LEADERS
Snyder (Bug) - Web Badge - Galatan Gym: Rugged, brown-haired man wearing outdoor gear, such as hiking boots, and a vest filled with various tools and doo-dads covering it. An outdoors-man skilled in trapping and such who is a master Bug Catcher.
Blanche (Normal) - Star Badge - Coladale Gym : "Pixie-cut", orange-haired young girl in a typical ballerina outfit. Is a ballet prodigy.
Justin (Dark) - Eclipse Badge - Croceanna Gym: Slicked-back, black hair guy in a police officer outfit wearing an eye-patch. Former convict turned good who tames dangerous Pokemon.
Rochelle (Rock) - Solid Badge - Mistiltin Gym: Long, brown-haired woman wearing a racing outfit and holding a helmet. Is a motor rally racer and car enthusiast.
Felicity (Psychic) - Grace Badge - Durendock Gym: Black-haired "office woman" wearing very fashionable eyeglasses. Interior decorator that practices Feng Shui and is very orderly.
Flavius and Ferra (Steel) - Grid Badge - Caladbough Gym: An older, "fluffy hair" man wearing a flashy golden suit and a beautiful blond woman in a silver dress. Are co-hosts that run a game show at their Gym.
Jules (Ghost) - Spirit Badge - Nagelrelm Gym :Young boy is a black suit, with pale skin and light-blond hair. Eyes closed. Is a blind violinist who uses his other senses to play.
Vincent (Fighting) - Force Badge - Tyrforge Gym: Pretty plain looking, middle-aged man wearing a black sweater and brown pants. Well known movie star and philanthropist.
ELITE FOUR
Odelia (Grass) - Young, primmed woman with medium-length red hair wearing a fancy dark-green horse-riding suit holding a rapier.
Marty (Water) - Muscular dude dressed up in a full-body swimsuit, with a baseball cap and goggles. Has a towel wrapped around his neck.
Ignatius (Fire) - Purple-haired man handsome looking man wearing a red/black "priest" outfit, with "intense" eyes.
Eydis (Electric) - Very muscular, powerful looking woman with a yellow/pink mohawk wearing a black leotard and a white biker jacket.
Oliver (???) - Your character's father, grown up. Uses a mixed team I believe.
And that's all the info I bring today. Enjoy, speculate, criticize, believe, disbelieve, it's your choice.
Hikamaru
February 26th, 2013 8:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo
(Post 7556224)
The 3D graphics in the game is definitely a step-up from our traditional 2-D sprites, imo. This new feel of pokemon game play can be quite refreshing for new and old players! Well, of course, the graphics are not final, and it's not perfect, but hell, I love this new graphic style!
I do agree with ya Shawn, these graphics look pretty cool and almost realistic, nice and refreshing since these are after all the first main Pokemon games on 3DS. Let's hope my experience changes when I eventually do my playthrough.
@Pinkie-Dawn: Pretty nice compilation on the 4chan rumors there, maybe we might get a Dark-type Gym Leader, finally after 5 generations. I'd be surprised if any of these are confirmed true.
Xander Olivieri
February 26th, 2013 8:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556606)
Those...details really are awfully specific here. I mean, I'm at a loss whether or not to really take this for a grain of salt, because for someone to really go through that much effort and all of it ending up being a hoax is kind of strange, but this is 4chan we're talking about, so yeah. .___.
Not too happy with Chespin's Grass/Flying though, to me, it seems like something that would be either Grass/Rock or Grass/Ground, either one or the other. Fennekin's Fire/Psychic is pretty much what most fans are expecting, if not Fire/Fighting. I expected Froakie to be Water/Flying, but for it to retain its water typing is pretty eh. All in all, I'm really not convinced by what I'm seeing, and I'd rather see something official before I start coming close to believing it.
His entire post is fake. 1) He's going to jail if his boss finds out because he's supposed to be a member of Nintendo of America or something. Which, ya, like the guy in Japan that leaked the Gen 5 starter evolutions, this guy is going to prison if true.
2) Its too early for half of that info to be revealed. He's just given up about a third of the game info. Ya no. Its all fake.
Hikamaru
February 26th, 2013 8:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7556619)
His entire post is fake. 1) He's going to jail if his boss finds out because he's supposed to be a member of Nintendo of America or something. Which, ya, like the guy in Japan that leaked the Gen 5 starter evolutions, this guy is going to prison if true.
2) Its too early for half of that info to be revealed. He's just given up about a third of the game info. Ya no. Its all fake.
Yeah, Xander basically nailed it. I know most stuff 4chan leaks turns out to be false. And Chespin doesn't look worthy of a Grass/Flying-type evolution given the creature it's based on.
Xander Olivieri
February 26th, 2013 8:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556629)
Well, that's comforting. XD I thought it was just some 4chan member who might've gotten it from a leak somewhere...but the problem there is the "where the hell did he get this information from??"
Grass/Flying...pfft I hope that never happens to a grass starter. >___>
He's pretending to be from one of the Nintendo companies. Nintendo classifies this as Fraud and Theft, so if that guy really does work for them, this is 5 to 15 years. Not worth it.
EDIT: Someone on Pokejungle mentioned something I forgot. There is supposed to be a Grass GYM in X and Y, not a Grass E4 member, since there was a trailer of the PC traveling through what is speculated to be a Grass Type Gym. So easy bust there.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 26th, 2013 9:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7556633)
He's pretending to be from one of the Nintendo companies. Nintendo classifies this as Fraud and Theft, so if that guy really does work for them, this is 5 to 15 years. Not worth it.
EDIT: Someone on Pokejungle mentioned something I forgot. There is supposed to be a Grass GYM in X and Y, not a Grass E4 member, since there was a trailer of the PC traveling through what is speculated to be a Grass Type Gym. So easy bust there.
I beleive the grass gym was speculation. Either way this is totally fake...these people should use their free time to create fan made games or something...
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 26th, 2013 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556673)
Well, this is 4chan, what do you expect? It's reasonable to be skeptical of them when it comes to something like this, though I do admit that the effort put into it was indeed amusing, it almost got me falling for it, sadly. @[email protected];
That said though, speaking of gyms, I managed to think of an interesting topic: in what order would you like the gyms to appear by? For me, it's:
Water
Fire
Grass
Psychic
Dark
Rock
Normal
Dragon
Probably cliche and overused to have Dragons as last gym, but the battles are always fun, so I don't mind. XD
I want the gyms to be:
1. Ground
2. Poison
3. Psychic
4. Steel
5. Dragon or Normal (as one of the gyms does seem to be normal)
6. Fighting
7. Bug
8. Dark
since as the PTW shows the types listed need some more gym leaders, especially compared to the overused water gym.
vaporeon7
February 26th, 2013 10:23 PM
I want fire, electric, grass and water to be the E4 types, that'd be cool.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 26th, 2013 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaporeon7
(Post 7556689)
I want fire, electric, grass and water to be the E4 types, that'd be cool.
Same here, either that or Fire, Ice, Electric, and Dragon.
Miss Doronjo
February 27th, 2013 4:38 AM
About the rumor, The "leak" is too perfect, imo. There is a Farfetch'd evolution, a Qwilfish evolution, Pinsir gets the treatment, Lapras a pre-evo, not to mention all the special type combinations we've been drooling over for so long. Everything appears to be just as we want it, and that is making me suspicious. It's also immensely detailed, kind of like a neatly organized wishlist passed out as a leak. We've seen plenty of elaborate wish lists in this thread, so it's clearly not impossible to create something detailed, yet believeable, and post it as "the real deal".
Keep in mind that the kids who've stayed with Pokémon since the very start are in their mid-twenties now. They know the patterns of GameFreak, they know the communities, and they follow the speculation. With a little determination, imagination and some time, they sure could create some damn convincing Fakemon and post them as real. We're not in the "Pikablu" or "Nidogod" era anymore. The Pokéfans of today know that the most believable claims are the least exaggerated ones. The Internet is quite full of recipes on how NOT to create a good rumour. All you have to do to stand out from the rest, and appear extremely credible in relation to the others, is being sparse on details and watching your grammar.
That being said, "Mr. XY" could be speaking the truth. The next reveal might shoot him down completely, or confirm what we've heard. The middle ground is extremely narrow given the amount of stuff he posted, so he is indeed balancing on the edge with this. Then again, anonymity => no repercussions. If he's just trolling, there will be no consequences to him. We will remember the incredibly detailed fake, not the guy behind it.
In any case, I do have ideas for E4 and Gyms myself:
1. Dark
2. Flying
3. Rock
4. Fighting
5. Poison
6. Ground
7. Ghost
8. Ice
With elite four:
1. Grass
2. Fire
3. Water
4. Electric
Mujahid
February 27th, 2013 4:46 AM
If they do make a Dark type gym (which is LONG due) it should be a later gym. I would prefer it to be last.
Platinum Lucario
February 27th, 2013 5:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mujahid
(Post 7556890)
If they do make a Dark type gym (which is LONG due) it should be a later gym. I would prefer it to be last.
As much as we wish that there'll be a Dark-type Gym, if there ever is one... then it should have a more "city streets at night" theme for the Gym where things are broken and smashed, like what you'd normally see in impoverished places.
That's what I'd like to see as a Dark-type Gym, but as far as I'm concerned... when Pokémon on Facebook asked "What is your favorite type of Gym?" most people said other types, though I saw some say "Dark-type" as much as they wish for a Dark-type Gym.
Let's just hope that a Dark-type Gym will appear in Pokémon X and Y. ^^
Pinkie-Dawn
February 27th, 2013 6:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556930)
With the elite four this time around, part of me prefers them not to have any specific type at all. I know that's kind of copying the Champion, but I want a more challenging E4, not just "whip out a supereffective pokemon and gg". I understand that it'll be less original, sure, but the cost is minimal compared to tougher and possibly funner battles. XD
But that's the reason why the Elite 4 from the first three gens fell flat. They weren't using Pokemon associated with their specialized types, not to mention using 2-3 Pokemon from the same line, and it's also why we're in need for more diversity on certain types to prevent this from happening again. If they're going to make another Ghost type specialist, then they'll need to make more Ghost Pokemon.
Pinkie-Dawn
February 27th, 2013 6:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556952)
I don't know about Gen I and II, but Generation III's E4 did not fall flat, and they actually did use Pokemon associated with their specialized type. I mean, Glacia and Drake? Sidney? Phoebe? Each and every single Pokemon that they used correlated with their specific type, so I don't know where you're getting this from. Take a look for yourself, really.
Gen III's Elite 4 did fell flat, because you ignored what I said about them using 2-3 Pokemon from the same line. Glacia, Drake, and Pheobe are guilty for this statement.
Pinkie-Dawn
February 27th, 2013 7:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7556954)
But again, the diversity has never been an issue since Gen III, so why bring it up?
Because you wanted this gen's Elite 4 to abandon the type specialist tradition and go with a mix team like the champion.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 27th, 2013 7:56 AM
How about we have an E4 of Steel, Ghost, Normal, and Ground, all types which have resistances against another type. Also if they give them cover moves against types they're weak against, such as Earthquake for the Steel leader's pokemon, and Stone edge for the ground Pokemon to take down ice types.
vaporeon7
February 27th, 2013 8:10 AM
I just hope if they're all type specialists, that they all use Pokémon of that type. I'm looking at you D/P Volkner and Flint.
E4
1)Dragon
2)Flying
3)Electric
4)Water
Champion is fire and mixed at the same time.
This setup feels the best for me, the E4 is mostly new with 1 returning type, all the gyms are mostly the rarer ones, and rock needs to make a comeback gym wise, its not a Pokemon game if there isn't a rock gym. I'm looking at you gen 5.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 27th, 2013 11:43 AM
Anyone think we may see another triple gym like Unova only with different types. Maybe a Ground, Electric, Flying trio. If one picks Chespin you battle the flying, if Fennekin than you battle ground, if Froakie you battle electric. Interestingly they're the types of the Kami trio so a gym trio of these types doesn't seem all that random imo. Also the first gym leader should be a girl, thus far Roxanne is the only female out of the 8 first gym leaders of the 5 known regions.
vaporeon7
February 27th, 2013 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilight Sky
(Post 7557220)
I would actually like it if the Champion were to have some sort of specialized type as well, wouldn't that make things too easy? I'm thinking of back in Gen III, when Wallace and Steven were both champions, and yet they used specialized Pokemon, but were the battles too simple doing so? Comparing both Steven and Wallace to Cynthia, were the battles easier or harder? I'd say Cynthia was definitely one of the harder ones, so maybe the Champion ought to stick to being mixed.
Hm...
I think Cynthia was a good challenge, and I hope they keep it like that. The final boss battle of the main story should be hard after all. I also liked how all her Pokémon had 31 IVs in each stat.
blue
February 27th, 2013 1:34 PM
This would be my ideal line up;
Gyms
Ground
Normal
Steel
Poison
Psychic
Bug
Dragon
Dark
E4
Grass
Fire
Water
Electric
Flying - Champion
With the Elite Four being primarily based around the Elements, the Gyms in no particular order but something like that would be niice.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 27th, 2013 1:48 PM
Maybe the E4 can be Ground, Flying, Water, Fire, and for the Champion will be Psychic (representing the five elements: Earth, Wind, Water, Fire, and Aether).
Esper
February 27th, 2013 2:01 PM
I'd be happy to see an E4 without Ghost-, Fighting- or Dark-types. Those would make for much more interesting gym types. That said, I did like how they made the Gen V E4 all have types that complimented each other and I'd like to see something like that again.
vaporeon7
February 27th, 2013 4:40 PM
I hope all the gym leaders had another thing they did in life. I liked how the Skyla was also a pilot, Elesa was a model, etc.
...yes the Skyla
Pinkie-Dawn
February 27th, 2013 6:38 PM
Yet another rumor from 4chan has popped up, and this one contradicts Mr. XY's info. Here's the original texture:
This is perhaps the most believable rumor I've ever read, but the inclusion of Genesect's new forme and the original dragon makes it sound suspicious, although they did create Regigigas, who was the golem trio's ring leader depsite the trio being 3rd gen Pokemon.
Xander Olivieri
February 27th, 2013 7:05 PM
Inclusion of Original Dragon makes it fake. If they wanted to do the original Dragon they would have in B2W2. That time has passed.
Ho-Oh
February 27th, 2013 7:09 PM
That kind of brings an interesting point - what if gyms are no longer based on types and instead on nationalities or concepts??
Jake♫
February 27th, 2013 7:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forever
(Post 7557886)
That kind of brings an interesting point - what if gyms are no longer based on types and instead on nationalities or concepts??
I don't think Game Freak would stray away from something like how gyms are formatted, especially when it makes sense. How would basing a gym on nationalities work exactly? Like would each nation use it's attributes like exports and things that are seen in a culture's everyday life determine the types it would use?
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 27th, 2013 8:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7557878)
Inclusion of Original Dragon makes it fake. If they wanted to do the original Dragon they would have in B2W2. That time has passed.
Not necessary. It's possible they wanted to save the original dragon for the next generation. It's possible the Dragon isn't called Kyurem but something else. Regigigas was added into generation 4 despite it being hinted at in generation 3 in the ruins, and it didn't play much of a role in story. So I see the original dragon should it really appear, show up post game.
Xander Olivieri
February 27th, 2013 8:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire
(Post 7557987)
Not necessary. It's possible they wanted to save the original dragon for the next generation. It's possible the Dragon isn't called Kyurem but something else. Regigigas was added into generation 4 despite it being hinted at in generation 3 in the ruins, and it didn't play much of a role in story. So I see the original dragon should it really appear, show up post game.
Where did they hint at Regigigas in Gen 3? All the legends spoke of were those three and how they had to be sealed away because they were too powerful/dangerous. He also isn't a new form in which the Original Dragon would be. The whole point for the Original Dragon would be centered around Unova where it was born seeing as the Dragon was said to have created Unova itself and is why Reshiram and Zekrom are there. They never added new forms to Legendaries outside of the Generation they were introduced.
Seeing as it will have to use Reshiram and Zekrom, its most certainly a form instead of a brand new Pokemon. Unova is done with and so are its legends. All the new stuff would revolve around the new region and new legends. Like with the supposed fused form of Dialga/Palkia which was heavily hinted at in Eterna City. Once that Generation is done, its done.
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
February 27th, 2013 9:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7558018)
Where did they hint at Regigigas in Gen 3? All the legends spoke of were those three and how they had to be sealed away because they were too powerful/dangerous. He also isn't a new form in which the Original Dragon would be. The whole point for the Original Dragon would be centered around Unova where it was born seeing as the Dragon was said to have created Unova itself and is why Reshiram and Zekrom are there. They never added new forms to Legendaries outside of the Generation they were introduced.
Seeing as it will have to use Reshiram and Zekrom, its most certainly a form instead of a brand new Pokemon. Unova is done with and so are its legends. All the new stuff would revolve around the new region and new legends. Like with the supposed fused form of Dialga/Palkia which was heavily hinted at in Eterna City. Once that Generation is done, its done.
As I said in my original post perhaps it's not even Kyurem (that's what I meant by maybe it's not called Kyurem) but something entirely different. Also this could be breaking the mold, as you've said many times GF can do what they want.
As for Regigagas being hinted at, while it's more speculation bulbapedia has a nice reason for why it may be Regigigas that was refered to rather than the Regi trio, "It is believed by some that the "We feared it." section refers to Regigigas, as opposed to Regirock, Regice, and Registeel, as it wouldn't make sense to refer to three Pokémon as an "it"."
Xander Olivieri
February 27th, 2013 9:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire
(Post 7558053)
As I said in my original post perhaps it's not even Kyurem (that's what I meant by maybe it's not called Kyurem) but something entirely different. Also this could be breaking the mold, as you've said many times GF can do what they want.
I didn't mention Kyurem at all either. I only said Reshiram and Zekrom as the original story said both of them were evenly split from the original meaning those two are all that's needed to make the Original one, but that would still be a form, not a new Pokemon. Forms aren't added after the generation is over. Reshiram and Zekrom are about Unova and Unova only.
Jake♫
February 27th, 2013 9:58 PM
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Originally Posted by XanderO
(Post 7558089)
I didn't mention Kyurem at all either. I only said Reshiram and Zekrom as the original story said both of them were evenly split from the original meaning those two are all that's needed to make the Original one, but that would still be a form, not a new Pokemon. Forms aren't added after the generation is over. Reshiram and Zekrom are about Unova and Unova only.
Honestly I'm not sure if it would be a new form though. I realize that you're combining two Pokémon similar to Kyurem-W and Kyurem-B, but it states that it's one original dragon. So what dragon would it be a form of, typing, etc? If it were just to be a new form then I'd agree that it wouldn't be added, but it's possible it could be considered an entirely different dragon.