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Mark Kamill March 5th, 2013 3:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7566468)
I'm not an experienced Fakédex-er, but it appears he's been working on the material for a while. It seems like the list of Pokémon, Gym Leaders, etc, was created well beforehand. That really isn't the hard part, there are many people who have made something similar.

However, the way it was presented is rather.. well done? Instead of going all-out with everything, and have it written off as another wishlist, he first presented it as if he had very limited access to the stuff, recited from memory or brief info sheets. Quick descriptions from artwork, small overview of game features, some interface, etc. He refers to specific points in the trailer, having explanations for minute details, and so on. He has all the designs ready, all names and so on. However, to avoid inconsistencies, he pretends not to know much, instead portioning out his stuff little by little. This way, nothing he says goes against anything he will say later.

If this is fake, it has accomplished its objective. Every Pokémon fan site has a thread or two discussing it. Many fans have swallowed the bait completely. Many are sceptical (myself included), but even they agree this is very well crafted. Any news from GameFreak refusing what we've been presented could blow the list completely. On the other hand, any news from GameFreak not refusing it would just cause the debate to stir even higher.

If it's legit, however, Mr. XY should either be looking for a new job soon, or he has done his job well and generated a fantastic amount of PR. Whether or not his bosses wanted this to happen is uncertain, but either way it has got the fans pumped for the game.



Well, some of his ideas do look cool~ The typings look interesting; I hope the new pokemon for X&Y will be similar to some of the typings listed! Or at least, I hope the new evolutions do~

I would say the lack of anything else from him could either be cause he gave so much that his job as trolling us is done, or he actually is from Nintendo and is now sitting in jail for breaking the wonderful thing called an NDA.

Z25 March 5th, 2013 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7566524)
I would say the lack of anything else from him could either be cause he gave so much that his job as trolling us is done, or he actually is from Nintendo and is now sitting in jail for breaking the wonderful thing called an NDA.

While i don't know what NDA is, i would assume he wouldn't get that long in jail for it. Also nintendo may have just fired him if he works for them. Nintendo may also have asked him to stop posting for a bit to get the fans to talk more about it, that is if this is a new marketing plan which we have seen this year their approach to advertising is different. Either way the 15th will disprove or prove him right or wrong. I think that it could go either way, some of it sounds real and some of it is questionable but who knows, maybe nintendo wanted to change the series to bring more fans to it. They may have also changed it since it is the first main 3d pokemon game and they want to change it's level of play.

Mark Kamill March 5th, 2013 4:01 PM

Non-Disclosure Agreement, which basically means that anyone involved in the localization of the game is not permitted to openly disclose anything of the game to the world, which was basically this. Which is also why I doubt its a marketing thing from Nintendo, that would actually be grounds to null any future breachings of NDA's.

Jake♫ March 5th, 2013 4:11 PM

On top of that, NDAs usually do have jail times attached to them, and I doubt someone would like to risk that by leaking information about a Pokémon game.

Mark Kamill March 5th, 2013 4:34 PM

Which, as I said could be the reason why XY hasn't posted anything else. Lets say its real, he done got himself caught.

Z25 March 5th, 2013 6:14 PM

Or maybe he doesn't want anymore attention so that nintendo doesn't find who he is.

Jake♫ March 5th, 2013 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 7566839)
Or maybe he doesn't want anymore attention so that nintendo doesn't find who he is.

At this point if what he's leaking has been true it's a little too late for him =P For his sake here's hoping his leaks aren't true. Plus, I think some of the stuff he's been "leaking" has been shoddy at best, so I doubt any of it has been true anyways.

Cyclone March 5th, 2013 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7566468)
I'm not an experienced Fakédex-er, but it appears he's been working on the material for a while. It seems like the list of Pokémon, Gym Leaders, etc, was created well beforehand. That really isn't the hard part, there are many people who have made something similar.

However, the way it was presented is rather.. well done? Instead of going all-out with everything, and have it written off as another wishlist, he first presented it as if he had very limited access to the stuff, recited from memory or brief info sheets. Quick descriptions from artwork, small overview of game features, some interface, etc. He refers to specific points in the trailer, having explanations for minute details, and so on. He has all the designs ready, all names and so on. However, to avoid inconsistencies, he pretends not to know much, instead portioning out his stuff little by little. This way, nothing he says goes against anything he will say later.

If this is fake, it has accomplished its objective. Every Pokémon fan site has a thread or two discussing it. Many fans have swallowed the bait completely. Many are sceptical (myself included), but even they agree this is very well crafted. Any news from GameFreak refusing what we've been presented could blow the list completely. On the other hand, any news from GameFreak not refusing it would just cause the debate to stir even higher.

If it's legit, however, Mr. XY should either be looking for a new job soon, or he has done his job well and generated a fantastic amount of PR. Whether or not his bosses wanted this to happen is uncertain, but either way it has got the fans pumped for the game.


Well, some of his ideas do look cool~ The typings look interesting; I hope the new pokemon for X&Y will be similar to some of the typings listed! Or at least, I hope the new evolutions do~

I see I chose a bad time for a break. Bad Cyclone, bad Cyclone.

Where are some of these posts located?

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Originally Posted by zoroarkrules25 (Post 7566571)
While i don't know what NDA is

Non-Disclosure Agreement.

Cyclone

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 5th, 2013 10:06 PM

Does anyone think we may have another generation mascot like Victini was for 5? You know a Pokémon we get early on upon release of these games, and has the numeral of the generation on it. Or do you think it was a one time thing?

I hope we get something next week, as this news drought is making me feel like I'm sitting next to a Groudon.

Jake♫ March 5th, 2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7567141)
Does anyone think we may have another generation mascot like Victini was for 5? You know a Pokémon we get early on upon release of these games, and has the numeral of the generation on it. Or do you think it was a one time thing?

I hope we get something next week, as this news drought is making me feel like I'm sitting next to a Groudon.

If by numeral you mean Roman numeral, that'll be a little trickier to do seeing as 6 is VI, and there was actually two legends (Victini and Virizion) that started like that! However, I could see them having another mascot that isn't really pertinent to any story line thrown in there again like Victini was. And let's be honest: Victini was adorable, so if they made another cute one I'd be perfectly fine with that =P

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7567141)
Does anyone think we may have another generation mascot like Victini was for 5? You know a Pokémon we get early on upon release of these games, and has the numeral of the generation on it. Or do you think it was a one time thing?

I hope we get something next week, as this news drought is making me feel like I'm sitting next to a Groudon.

I'm sure we will get another Victini or Mew-like Pokémon. They need something to star in the movies after all.

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 4:36 AM

Hopefully its not another 000 Pokemon considering how it felt more of a one and done deal.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 4:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7567462)
Hopefully its not another 000 Pokemon considering how it felt more of a one and done deal.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got another #000, I guess it helps the game glitch less if someone hacks Pokémon #000. (not that you can hack a 3DS game atm or anything)

Diversion March 6th, 2013 4:42 AM

Having another #000 is weird.
To be honest it sucks.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 4:44 AM

I didn't really like it either, it just confuses people really.

Cyclone March 6th, 2013 5:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7567466)
I didn't really like it either, it just confuses people really.

It gave the impression of Victini being the predecessor of all Pokémon in Unova. There's nothing confusing about it, whatsoever, unless you're poking through organizing the National Dex and sticking it after Arceus in Sinnoh. I thought it might belong at the end, but after thinking about it, I like where they put it here.

Doi we need another 000? No. But if they want someone to be the predecessor again, it makes sense. Arceus should have been an 000.

Cyclone

Ho-Oh March 6th, 2013 7:33 AM

Um, there's no need for another 000 given that it's already taken and having two in that spot would make no sense whatever imo. :(

Miss Doronjo March 6th, 2013 7:37 AM

I was thinking that maybe they will go down the 000 road because this new region is isolated, so... I dunno, it'd make sense to me. But yes, I do wonder what the cute legendary will look like. I do wonder what the trio legendaries look like as well!

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 10:58 AM

Well last year we got deers and Kami's so anything is honestly available. I personally want legendary sharks, and have em go all out with the typings and what not.

Guy March 6th, 2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7567628)
I was thinking that maybe they will go down the 000 road because this new region is isolated, so... I dunno, it'd make sense to me. But yes, I do wonder what the cute legendary will look like. I do wonder what the trio legendaries look like as well!

I don't think Victini was listed as #000 because Unova was the first region detached from the location of the first four, but because Gen V was to be considered a "reboot" of the franchise and GameFreak decided to be creative and officially create Pokémon #000 that wasn't Missingo. So it made sense for them to create a Pokémon listed as #000 for what was to be a new beginning for the series.

I'm doubtful that they'll do it again though, at least for this generation anyway.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 6th, 2013 11:31 AM

Come to think about it Victini being 000 may have another reason than simply to bring victory to those who own it. Perhaps it also symbolizes how Victini isn't native to Unova but to another region, maybe this new region because as mentioned before France made the Statue to Liberty and gave it to America as a present, perhaps the Lighthouse in Unova is like that and the people of this region put Victini in it to keep it safe. Maybe we can get more Victini background as I was curious as to who the person was who put it there.

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7567912)
I don't think Victini was listed as #000 because Unova was the first region detached from the location of the first four, but because Gen V was to be considered a "reboot" of the franchise and GameFreak decided to be creative and officially create Pokémon #000 that wasn't Missingo. So it made sense for them to create a Pokémon listed as #000 for what was to be a new beginning for the series.

I'm doubtful that they'll do it again though, at least for this generation anyway.

Exactly. Victini's numbering was wholly a move due to the reboot feeling GF wanted to give BW. If we ever get one again it would be much more down the line perhaps even after generation 10. Speaking of numbering, I wouldn't mind if GF offered a 3rd dex option labelled new world or such, with the numbering continuing from Unova's original 156.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 11:42 AM

It could be totally possible tat Victini isn't Unova native. After all, if you look at Corphish's Pokédex entries for R/S/E, it mentions that it is not a Hoenn native Pokémon, but rather a pest. I don't see why they couldn't have done that again.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 6th, 2013 11:43 AM

I think that the National Pokedex should be changed to International unless this new region is also part of the Pokemon Nation that Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh belong to. Apperantly in Pokemon Pokejapan conquered America in WWII...

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7567943)
I think that the National Pokedex should be changed to International unless this new region is also part of the Pokemon Nation that Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh belong to. Apperantly in Pokemon Pokejapan conquered America in WWII...

I agree. Currently it's more of a worldwide dex than a National dex.

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7567943)
I think that the National Pokedex should be changed to International unless this new region is also part of the Pokemon Nation that Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh belong to. Apperantly in Pokemon Pokejapan conquered America in WWII...

Exactly. The National Dex feels like a weird naming convention when you have not only 1 but 2 regions that will likely be far away from the others.

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7567940)
It could be totally possible tat Victini isn't Unova native. After all, if you look at Corphish's Pokédex entries for R/S/E, it mentions that it is not a Hoenn native Pokémon, but rather a pest. I don't see why they couldn't have done that again.

It actually isn't a Unova Pokemon, a rich guy stored away the precious Pokemon as part of his private collection.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 11:58 AM

I doubt they'll change it from National Dex though, I'm guessing if they didn't change it last generation, they never will.

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 12:04 PM

True enough. As I said, a neat solution would be a new world option which just features Unova/Pokeregion 6

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7567976)
True enough. As I said, a neat solution would be a new world option which just features Unova/Pokeregion 6

When you say new world, do you mean like a new planet, because that'd be confusing.

Mark Kamill March 6th, 2013 12:43 PM

No, I mean like the other side of the planet, like the new world was basically the Americas to the Colombus Era explorers. Unova and Pokeregion 6, if based on France of course, are literally just 2 sides of an ocean while Pokejapan is still on the other side of the world.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7568028)
No, I mean like the other side of the planet, like the new world was basically the Americas to the Colombus Era explorers. Unova and Pokeregion 6, if based on France of course, are literally just 2 sides of an ocean while Pokejapan is still on the other side of the world.

That makes more sense. If you did travel to Unova, I wonder how many years would've passed.

Jake♫ March 6th, 2013 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7567943)
I think that the National Pokedex should be changed to International unless this new region is also part of the Pokemon Nation that Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh belong to. Apperantly in Pokemon Pokejapan conquered America in WWII...

That's actually a valid point that I never really have thought about. National would really only cover what was found in that region, since it's technically one nation I suppose. Unless the theory of the games is that each region is part of one large Pokémon country, and then it would make sense to keep it as the National Dex, but at this point there's so many regions that are spread out it doesn't really seem plausible that that's accurate.

Diversion March 6th, 2013 2:07 PM

Well I would like to revisit the other regions, but it doesn't seem to fit the game.
6th gen has just started, don't get your hopes up. Maybe we will revisit other region(s) in the third game.

vaporeon7 March 6th, 2013 3:32 PM

I'd rather a Hoenn remake than traveling to Hoenn in the post-game.

Guy March 7th, 2013 4:01 AM

We're straying a bit off-topic here, you guys. If you would like to discuss RSE Remakes, you may do so in the RSE Remake Speculation Thread over in Pokémon Gaming Central.

As far as including a past region in X and Y goes, I sincerely hope not. I rather they spend the time and space building on the new region instead.

Miss Doronjo March 7th, 2013 4:34 AM

I've said this before, but, going to past regions would take away the emphasis on the development of this new region, IMO. I mean, hey, let's give this new region a chance, yes? I'm sure that we can all love it!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 7th, 2013 6:25 AM

I would love that to happen to be honest...maybe after we finish the French/Paris based region we go to the northwestern island region which has more snow, and different biomes than the french based on. Oh and it's based on London.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:03 AM

I feel like developing the new region is going to be a difficult task as it is with the new graphics engine, let alone another region (whether previous or another new one). As much as I'd love it I just really doubt it =/

Cyclone March 7th, 2013 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7569226)
I feel like developing the new region is going to be a difficult task as it is with the new graphics engine, let alone another region (whether previous or another new one). As much as I'd love it I just really doubt it =/

Actually, previous regions would be easier, I'd say. After all, you have the existing world already, and just have to replicate it. Meanwhile, change the things (like Apricorn Trees) that have nothing to do with the new game.

Cyclone

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:57 AM

It would be easier since they have a model to base it off of, but it still would be largely time consuming to recreate them all over again.

Random question: Do you guys think we'll have more varied landscapes, instead of it depending on seasons like Unova? Outside of maybe Twist Mountain, Unova wasn't really that varied of a reason when it came to landscape. Sinnoh had all of the northern routes covered in snow, as well with some more varied landscapes in general. I'd just love to see some more variance with this game, especially with the 3D.

Mark Kamill March 7th, 2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7569041)
You know, I've now thought of something interesting, speaking of traveling to other regions....

I want to know of this game would do a "two regions in one" kind of deal, y'know? It's a very intriguing thought, that after exploring and going through one region of the game, you have the opportunity to go travel to another unknown region, somewhere hidden off to you until you beat the primarily region's E4 or maybe after you get a certain number of badges. @[email protected] I'd love for that to happen, personally, however doubtful that may be.

I'm actually secretly wishing without setting off any alarms an additional DLC later on which adds more Pokemon along with a second region, but still part of gen 6. Something like Gen 6 part 2.

Sabrewulf238 March 7th, 2013 12:08 PM

Did you guys see this?

Spoiler:
*Movie News.

The Movie News focuses mainly on Mewtwo, with a sidebar detailing its various appearances, including the original film, Mewtwo Returns, its role in Red and Blue, Pokemon Stadium, and even Smash Brothers Melee. Mewtwo is said to have amnesia within the film, and doesn't remember who Ash is, and considers him an enemy alongside the rest of humanity. Mewtwo engages in a fight with the Red Genesect in order to "free it" from its prison, as it senses its pain from being transformed into a weapon. Mewtwo is said to have obtained a new power, but it is not stated what.

The city within the film is called Neodoll City, and is a high-tech utopia where brilliant minds are said to gather. Ash and Co. travel there in order to attend a conference that Professor Oak invited them to focusing on the bonds between human and Pokemon.

*Sylveon gets a section focused on it, revealing Species and Type.

Sylveon is the Kashinfuu Pokemon, "Spring Wind". It is a pure-Flying Eevee Evolution, and is also 100% Female. Evolution method isn't stated exactly, but it evolves through its "bonds" with another Pokemon reaching a fever pitch. It further teases this by promising information on a new evolution mechanic in the future.

The Mini-Movie takes place within a park and a group of Eeveelution Sisters. Pikachu and friends help a young Eevee woo the Sylveon sister, while Oshawott and Meowth engage in a "love battle" in order to win over her as well. The Mini-Movie is said to take place directly before the main film in a city park, and Sylveon and the Eeveelutions will apparently cameo within the main film to aid in the big battle.

*The magazine expands on the Starters and Legendaries, with Species and Types:

Chespin is the Igaguri Pokemon, "Chestnut".
Fennekin is the Kitsunemimi Pokemon, "Fox Ears".
Froakie is the Kaeru Pokemon, "Frog".
Xerneas is the CHI (written out in romanji) Pokemon. Psychic/Ground.
Yveltal is the PSI (written out in romanji) Pokemon. Fighting/Flying.

Magazine has little speculative blurbs about them. Mentions how Chespin seems to be wearing a "hat", and wonders if it can be removed. Fennekin's blurb points out the fluff within its ears and questions if it's able to hear with all that fluff. Froakie's questions about the function of the clouds on its back, and wonders if it stores anything in it. Xerneas' points out the rainbow glow coming from its horns and asks what kind of power they contain, and Yveltal's mentions how its tail has a third hand on the end.

Next issue will apparently reveal the secret of Xerneas and Yveltal, and the meaning of CHI and PSI.

*There are three New Pokemon revealed advertising New Evolutions and Pre-Evolutions of older Pokemon alongside Sylveon, alongside their Sugimori Art and an in-game screen-shot:

Arutarosu [アルタロス], which is said to be the pre-evolution of Tauros. Normal. Species is Kengyuu Pokemon, "cow-puller", apparently from "kengyuusei", the "Puller of Cow Star". 19.7 kg. 0.9 m. Is a little brown bull, with only one tail, and ears instead of horns. Has a "cowbell" charm on its neck, a circular piece of metal with bull horns coming out the sides. The magazine indicates that it uses the cowbell to lead other Pokemon, and the in-game screen-shot shows musical notes coming from the bell in a battle.

Koorain [コーライン], which is said to be the evolution of Torkoal. Fire. Species is Sekitan Pokemon, "Coal", same as Torkoal. Very large Torkoal, with black "train tracks" lines running down its neck down its stomach, and around its legs. Has two "smoke stack" horns on the top of its head. Shell is larger, with two openings on both sides which are opened up like shafts, red fire seen inside. 291.8 kg. 2.8 m. Its in-game picture shows a red flame emitting from it in a fight against a Torkoal, Torkoal in the foreground, Koorain in the back, with the magazine pointing out the size difference between the two.

Yamemasu [ヤメマス], which is an alternate-evolution to Wynaut and a counterpart to Wobbuffet. Psychic. Species is the Kibaya Pokemon, "quick-tempered". Looks a lot like Wobbuffet, with a red zig-zag around its neck as its head is red, and it's got meaner looking (><) eyes as they're narrowing downward. Even the eyes on its tail look mad. Its arms are layered like a paper fan, and its swatting them. It's slightly skinnier, with its legs a bit raised and less flabby. 28.5 kg. 1.3 m. Its in-game picture has it swatting its arms at a Wobbuffet in battle in some kind of attack, and the magazine points out how it's able to attack on its own unlike Wobbuffet.

*Anime News about next saga.

Feature on Sableye, who will be appearing in an upcoming episode. Sableye is apparently a "genius" intellect Pokemon who has been stealing books from the Nacrene Museum in order to read them, causing the Museum to shut down. While attempting to capture it, Sableye nabs Ash's PokeDex...

There will be an upcoming arc focused on the Nature Sanctuary, in which Virgil returns in order to protect a Shiny Haxorus from Team Rocket. A "heroic" Nuzleaf also plays a role, apparently teaming up with Cilan who has become a "Kamen Sommelier!".


It was posted by somebody over at pokejungle saying it was going to be the contents of the next Corocoro. I doesn't say anything for it's reliability of course but thought I would post it here just in case. They said it was on /vp/ where they found it....which means nothing to me. Is that something about 4chan?

All I can think of is how distraught the fans of a joint Tauros/Miltank prevo will be.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 12:13 PM

/vp/ is the Pokémon board on 4chan. And a lot of that seems pretty viable, although I doubt that Sylveon would only be a female exclusive Eeveelution. However, I do like the Torkoal evolution and the alternate to Wobbuffet, even if I kind of doubt that would actually happen. Who knows, it may be real! Better than what Mr. XY has been spewing on 4chan.

Cyclone March 7th, 2013 12:17 PM

If it's fake, it's very well-written. We should wait for the magazine, however.

Those wanting a new type for Sylveon will be disappointed if it's true.

Cyclone

Aura Vitae March 7th, 2013 12:32 PM

Female only for Sylveon? Seems kind of odd considering Eevee's gender ratio but whatever. If this is real though I wouldn't mind it at all because the bit about the movie sounds interesting and doesn't seem to betray what was shown in the trailer for the movie. That Wobbuffet alternate sounds interesting.

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 1:39 PM

I want a Torkoal evolution a lot. Especially so I can use Evoilite Torkoal.

Yamiidenryuu March 7th, 2013 1:41 PM

That was already proven false by the new movie info we just got yesterday. The movie's location is "New Tork" rather than Neodoll, and Mewtwo does not seem to have amnesia. So it's unlikely that the rest of it is true.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamiidenryuu (Post 7569664)
That was already proven false by the new movie info we just got yesterday. The movie's location is "New Tork" rather than Neodoll, and Mewtwo does not seem to have amnesia. So it's unlikely that the rest of it is true.

Two things that are possible with that:
  1. Translation isn't perfect, so it's still a possibility
  2. You're right and it's false

It's more than likely the latter, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want a Torkoal evolution =x

Z25 March 7th, 2013 3:41 PM

Here is what serebii said about it: Thanks to Adamant, we have some translations of the plot. While most was known beforehand, we do have a bit more in regards to Mewtwo. In it, Mewtwo has an extistential crisis thinking "These Pokemon were not meant to exist in this world... just like me". Sableye is also a mysterious Pokémon that lives in the Pokémon Hills where it befriends Ash & Co. The sableye could appear before then though so the pokemon might be fake but not the anime part.

Miss Doronjo March 7th, 2013 4:25 PM

Hm, so, CoroCoro leaks will be sometime next week or so, right? Well, the 10th is this Sunday, which... from then onwards we can expect a leak? Well, whenever it comes, here's hoping for new info, along side info about Sylveon? ^^

Pinkie-Dawn March 7th, 2013 4:56 PM

But Torkoal's base stats prevents it from getting another evolution, unless they're pulling a Electabuzz/Magmar/Rhydon/Magnezone/Scyther/Porygon2 on it, and Tauros pre-evo not capable of evolving into Miltank also debunks this rumor as fake.

Shiny Celebi March 7th, 2013 5:23 PM

The rumors were proven false with the new movie trailer release.

I personally would take any rumors like this false for now. Also remember we could get fake scans over the next few days, last month, the magazine was leaked the 11th-12th.

I expect some Sylveon info, hopefully it's type,and more movie info. I dont know whether or not to expect any Pokemon reveals but probably few if so.

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 5:30 PM

The name 'New Tork' makes me cringe.

Guy March 7th, 2013 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7570057)
The name 'New Tork' makes me cringe.

Be thankful it's likely just another anime exclusive area.

Driving this back towards X and Y, we can probably expect CoroCoro leaks as early as Sunday night. I'm betting on around Monday or Tuesday night though, which is the 11th and 12th respectively. I'm surprised there hasn't been any fake scans surfacing these past few days. I guess there's still time yet.

I am curious to know what they'll reveal though, if it'll be just more info on Sylveon like mentioned last month or anything more. I'm really hoping we get a region name, some new screenshots, and the protagonist artwork. I feel like that's asking for a bit much though, given how slowly they've been with releasing news the past two months.

Xander Olivieri March 7th, 2013 5:55 PM

I don't remember anything saying officially Sylveon would be revealed more in the next Issue of Coro Coro. I asked some people to show me where that was and none have ever shown me.

As far as what I think, if we don't get more game update, as in some new minor stuff, like maybe new toys to play with or some small insignificant Pokemon, I don't expect anything other than Movie news.

Ho-Oh March 7th, 2013 6:02 PM

Well when we've had barely anything for two months you'd expect at least something interesting about the games, soooo hopefully there isn't too much small useless information!

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 6:05 PM

Honestly the only major thing I'd really expect them to give us is Sylveon's type, seeing as they revealed it last time. They'll probably just keep stringing us along though =/

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 6:09 PM

They probably only reveal movie merchandise. Like stuff for Genesect, Sableye, Pikachu, Axew... etc and one or two mystery ones. Which might be new Pokémon.

Guy March 7th, 2013 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7570114)
I don't remember anything saying officially Sylveon would be revealed more in the next Issue of Coro Coro. I asked some people to show me where that was and none have ever shown me.

Only real source I have is from Serebii's main page:

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[...] No further details were given about this Pokémon (referring to Sylveon), but CoroCoro said that more secrets will be revealed about it next month.
Take from that what you may. It could be wrong, definitely a possibility there, but Serebii usually has a good rep in putting up official news. Either way, whether its got some juicy new details on X&Y, just more info on Sylveon, or merely nothing at all, we'll likely see what we get in just a few days time.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 6:28 PM

I guess I can wait another month to hear more about Sylveon =P Now I'm just more curious about what will be revealed this issue. Maybe more about the starters evolutions?

Shiny Celebi March 7th, 2013 6:46 PM

I dont expect to see starter evos until closer to release, I really dont think it will be this early.

Watch them not reveal Sylveon's type and keep hyping it -_-

Xander Olivieri March 7th, 2013 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi (Post 7570216)
I dont expect to see starter evos until closer to release, I really dont think it will be this early.

Watch them not reveal Sylveon's type and keep hyping it -_-

I don't expect Sylveon's type to be revealed until July for the Movie. Since it may be a potential spoiler.

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 7:20 PM

Neither do I, at least it allows for more speculation.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 7:32 PM

Honestly there isn't much left to speculate on. I feel like we're beating a dead horse at this point and I just want it revealed! Unless someone else just pulls some crazy theory out of their butt what else is really left?

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7570272)
Honestly there isn't much left to speculate on. I feel like we're beating a dead horse at this point and I just want it revealed! Unless someone else just pulls some crazy theory out of their butt what else is really left?

If they unveiled the type, at least move move and ability speculation would happen.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7570285)
If they unveiled the type, at least move move and ability speculation would happen.

It would help if I read your post right and realized you meant more speculation if they released the type. My bad =x In that you are certainly correct! I look forward to speculating upon those things!

Shiny Celebi March 7th, 2013 7:56 PM

Dont forget speculation on Sylveon's evolution method, there'd be that as well as moves/abilities and such for Sylveon, even if it's type is revealed.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi (Post 7570294)
Dont forget speculation on Sylveon's evolution method, there'd be that as well as moves/abilities and such for Sylveon, even if it's type is revealed.

If anything, I kind of expect that to be released along with it's typing. The two just seem to go hand-in-hand to me.

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 8:19 PM

Right now it's too hard to speculate moves. I wouldn't be too surprised if it had the ability Serene Grace. It just looks it.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7569296)
Random question: Do you guys think we'll have more varied landscapes, instead of it depending on seasons like Unova? Outside of maybe Twist Mountain, Unova wasn't really that varied of a reason when it came to landscape. Sinnoh had all of the northern routes covered in snow, as well with some more varied landscapes in general. I'd just love to see some more variance with this game, especially with the 3D.

I just wanted to ask this question again (as a way to stray away from going back onto a Sylveon discussion which is better saved for it's own thread =P)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 7th, 2013 8:42 PM

Sylveon's not even going to be in the main movie (as far as we know), only a short, which doesn't seem like something worth keeping it's type hidden for five months after it's announcement.

vaporeon7 March 7th, 2013 8:46 PM

I think we'll get a varied landscape like Hoenn. Or at least I hope we do.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 8:51 PM

I have to agree, Hoenn was pretty much the pinnacle of varied. It had desert, a volcano, regular areas, and a large ocean area. Honestly I'd just love to see something like that.

Ho-Oh March 7th, 2013 9:21 PM

I want it like Unova. Sure Unova lacks stuff but Unova was a great region and if this is similar landscape-wise to Unova I will like it very much n_n

Wobbu March 7th, 2013 9:49 PM

The trailer showed a forest, some grassy fields, and a large canyon. It seems as if there will be some variation. I hope they bring back snow, as in Snowpoint City style.

Sabrewulf238 March 7th, 2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7569988)
Tauros pre-evo not capable of evolving into Miltank also debunks this rumor as fake.

Why? Is there any real connection between the two apart from one being a cow and the other being a bull?

Also Torkoals base stat total is 470. That looks like it could easily get an evolution. Pokemon with a higher base stat total have evolved.

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7570469)
Why? Is there any real connection between the two apart from one being a cow and the other being a bull?

No, there really isn't. People assume that they are counterparts due to their gender exclusivity and being based on similar animals, but they are not officially related or counterparts.

Ace. March 7th, 2013 11:22 PM

Well, I like the fact that it features a tower that looks like the Eiffel Tower. I hope we can climb it and battle some trainers there with a special event on top overlooking a city or something because I wanna go to the Eiffel Tower one day (profile as a reference xD) so it would be cool to climb it in game.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 7th, 2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7570384)
I want it like Unova. Sure Unova lacks stuff but Unova was a great region and if this is similar landscape-wise to Unova I will like it very much n_n

I rather it not be a Unova clone, nor a Hoenn clone either, nor the rest of the regions. However I do hope to see it have as varied a setting as Hoenn, yet with different biomes. Maybe Meadow, Large city (maybe an abandon city covered with rare Pokémon) Desert, Deep Forest, Hills, snow covered mountains, lakes. Sounds like a mix of Sinnoh and Unova...

Jake♫ March 7th, 2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7570494)
I rather it not be a Unova clone, nor a Hoenn clone either, nor the rest of the regions. However I do hope to see it have as varied a setting as Hoenn, yet with different biomes. Maybe Meadow, Large city (maybe an abandon city covered with rare Pokémon) Desert, Deep Forest, Hills, snow covered mountains, lakes. Sounds like a mix of Sinnoh and Unova...

That's pretty much what I was going for when I said similar to Hoenn, not a clone but taking the variety element from it and making another great region.

vaporeon7 March 8th, 2013 1:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverDash (Post 7570490)
Well, I like the fact that it features a tower that looks like the Eiffel Tower. I hope we can climb it and battle some trainers there with a special event on top overlooking a city or something because I wanna go to the Eiffel Tower one day (profile as a reference xD) so it would be cool to climb it in game.

I think it might be something the the viewpoint from Aspertia City, but maybe an even better view. I think the city would look beautiful at night.

Jake♫ March 8th, 2013 1:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7570547)
I think it might be something the the viewpoint from Aspertia City, but maybe an even better view. I think the city would look beautiful at night.

I could definitely imagine the view from the top of that tower. I'm hoping that they can make it almost like the binoculars from Gen 1 (in a sense) where it can kind of act as an observation deck, except you'll actually be able to see what you're looking at. Plus the 3D would make it awesome.

vaporeon7 March 8th, 2013 2:15 AM

I wonder if this game will include more cars and trucks, I think it would be pretty cool if from the top of the tower, if you could hear traffic at peak times.

Ho-Oh March 8th, 2013 2:43 AM

Hearing the background sounds when you're up that high sounds like a really awesome concept imo! And then being able to zoom in and see the traffic! :3

vaporeon7 March 8th, 2013 2:58 AM

What about a glass floor? That'd be amazing.

Ho-Oh March 8th, 2013 3:01 AM

If we got the option to zoom into the area below, ya, then it'd be great. Otherwise we probably wouldn't be able to see through it easily enough for the most part. :(

Guy March 8th, 2013 4:10 AM

Just give it one of these type of binoculars or scope lenses or whatever you call these things! Then you can zoom in and see all different kinds of faraway places within the city / region atop the tower.

A glass floor would be pretty neat though.

Hikamaru March 8th, 2013 4:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7570621)
Just give it one of these type of binoculars or scope lenses or whatever you call these things! Then you can zoom in and see all different kinds of faraway places within the city / region atop the tower.

A glass floor would be pretty neat though.

I think a glass floor would look so beautiful, but given this is our first 3D main Pokemon game you never know what they'll pull off at us.

Miss Doronjo March 8th, 2013 4:54 AM

There's a place in Toronto called the CN tower that has a great glass floor that let's you look onto the world below~! So yeah, a glass floor would be an amazing view! As for the zoom feature, that too is a possibility; though I wonder how it can be used in practice~?

Cyclone March 8th, 2013 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7570642)
There's a place in Toronto called the CN tower that has a great glass floor that let's you look onto the world below~! So yeah, a glass floor would be an amazing view! As for the zoom feature, that too is a possibility; though I wonder how it can be used in practice~?

It also has those binocular things referenced a few posts ago. If there's one landmark I ought to be familiar with, that's the one.

Cyclone

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 8th, 2013 7:28 AM

How about a boat with a glass floor, it can allow us to look below at in the water giving it that Marine Tube from B2W2 only better looking.

Sabrewulf238 March 8th, 2013 10:57 AM

I was just thinking with the new 3D view it would be cool if the cable car from Mt.Chimney of the Hoenn region made a return.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire March 8th, 2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7570896)
I was just thinking with the new 3D view it would be cool if the cable car from Mt.Chimney of the Hoenn region made a return.

I would like to see the cable car make a return, we haven't had one since Emerald, and I enjoyed the view even if it was 2D, and didn't show much.

And as mentioned before by Forever and others, more trains would be nice to see, and this time they should let us travel on them, rather than simply for battle like the Magnet Train in Johto... hmm Paris has a subway too so perhaps we can see another one.

Jake♫ March 8th, 2013 11:59 AM

I like all of your ideas actually. That view from the top of the tower would be insane, plus a cable car feature would be cool too with the 3D making the view better than the simple one we got from the one in Gen 3.

As for moves that need buffs, I'm honestly pretty happy with what we have. Maybe bump up Hypnosis' accuracy back up to 70% again like Diamond and Pearl, otherwise I'm happy =P

Mark Kamill March 8th, 2013 12:53 PM

Bulldoze with 15PP, but raise it to 80 in terms of power. I need to reign terror the right way, not with a mere 60. Would also love to see Solarbeam getting nerfed with rainy weather.

Jake♫ March 8th, 2013 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7571130)
Would also love to see Solarbeam getting nerfed with rainy weather.

Now that you bring that up I really don't understand why that was never done when weather got introduced. It has the word Solar in it, so buffed by sun and hurt by anything else would make sense. Including Hail in there as well, and maybe Sand Storm (although I guess technically it can be a sandstorm and still be sunny out?).

Mark Kamill March 8th, 2013 1:28 PM

Basically yeah. Would also love to see blizzard getting nerfed with sunny day.

Miss Doronjo March 8th, 2013 1:37 PM

As for hail, maybe sun-based moves can be nerfed... somehow.

Like, Solarbeam having less power? I mean, moves like Moonlight and Synthesis works depending on the sun, maybe Solarbeam can work the same way.

Mark Kamill March 8th, 2013 1:54 PM

Yep. Continuing on with the somewhat logical realism, does anyone else want a boost on the flamethrower variant status effect depending on their weather?

vaporeon7 March 8th, 2013 1:58 PM

I think if it's sunny, frozen Pokémon should thaw faster.


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