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Well, if you think about it, flamethrower burns you, but if you have sunny day activated, the chance that it will burn you will increase cause the Pokemon's skin would be more sensitive thanks to the intense sunlight.
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I mean, assuming if X&Y would revamp abilities and such. |
I understand the reasoning behind it, but is it really necessary? It's just adding more complexity to something that doesn't need it I guess =/
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Its just a way to give us a better chance at burning our foe, without eating up another move slot, and the same for freeze/paralyze.
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And Bulldoze has a very powerful effect, it doesn't need more power. |
I've always thought that Bulldoze was kind of gimmicky, and quite situational. (eg. you have a ferrothorn, the opponent switches to magnezone, sooo bulldoze away?)
I dunno, I'm beginning to think that the only way X&Y will revamp moves is if they plan to add more situational moves, or more powerful staple moves in general. That'd be interesting to see. |
I feel it'll be nice if Bulldoze was upped to 70.
Also I think Solar Beam should be changed up a bit, it seems to be the least used of the 120 BP moves. Perhaps increase it's power to 130 or 140 BP so even when nerfed it'll be 65 or 70 BP. |
I'd like to see a water type move like Overheat, I think we need one. And maybe electric too.
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Also, I know SolarBeam's only good effect is being used in sun (since it hits in a single turn under those conditions) and even better when combined with Chlorophyll users since getting a Speed boost and firing one-shot SolarBeams can be deadly. And I do agree with Vap's post, we should get some moves similar to Overheat, but with different types. |
If Bulldoze gets a boost, Snarl, Struggle Bug, and Low Sweep should too. Low Sweep is a Fighting version of Bulldoze in one vs one. Struggle Bug and Snarl do the same thing but Struggle Bug is 30 while Snarl is 55, both lower than Bulldoze and both can be more effective upsetting Special attackers.
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We also need stronger ghost type moves, iicr, Shadow ball is the strongest excluding Shadow Force.
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I also think most Physical-based Ghosts need better STAB moves, Banette is useless cos its best STAB is Shadow Claw, and that doesn't even that hard unless if it was a critical hit. |
I don't think Pokemon needs a new Type. I don't think a new Type will be added. Light-Type just seems redundant. However, one video I saw suggested a "Fairy-Type". This would include all the "Pink Balloon" Pokemon like Blissey, Jigglypuff, and other pokemon with "fairy" as their species.
Normal-Type today is already divided into 2 main groups. Animal pokemon, and misfit pokemon. How is Porygon a "Normal Type? Exactly what is NORMAL about a pokemon made of Data that shoots electric and psychic attacks? So, I think there is genuine design space for Normal Type to be split into 2 distinct types. Normal-Type would become the home on ACTUAL Normal animals like Lilipup and Ratatta. (there is nothing normal about Joey's Ratatta. He's in like, the top percentile of ratattas.) The New Type would be the official Hodge-podge-Type that Normal is currently. Filled with bizarre things like Porygon, Likitunge, Jigglypuff and others. (people say Likitunge is a chameleon. I disagree. The thing is pink and made of rubber and look like no Earthly creature. It is not Normal to be pink and inflatable.) |
I fairy type would make me thing of Yugioh, just saying.
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I'm not really in favor of a fairy type, or any new type really, but of course its a possibility and I do agree that Porygon shouldn't be a normal type, but its done now and I don't really see them changing the typing completely of Porygon. But I can see them adding a fairy typing to Jigglypuff, Blissey, Audino, all those pokemon that are in that group with those, so that they would be Normal/Fairy. What I can't see them doing is ridding them of their normal typing and making them purely fairy, although they might make new pokemon that are purely fairy, that is IF they introduce a fairy type. I personally don't believe they will introduce any new type because all the typings seem pretty balanced as they are right now, but I guess if they added a new type fairy would be an interesting one.... I just don't really see how it would fit in.. like what types it would be weak against it/what types it would be strong against.
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Fairy-type would just be awkward, since it'd be hard classifying them. Maybe they'd all have to be cutesy Pokemon or something pink? Yeah, it'd be silly.
Plus, most Normal-types have cute looks to them anyway, like Clefairy and Jigglypuff. We may have a Fairy egg group, but I don't think it would cut it as a type. It's just as bad as all those people speculating Light-type. I'm actually fine with the current type chart anyway. Changing it up would make things more complicated. |
Yeah some stronger Ghost and Dark moves would be nice, oh and ice as well, none of the other ice moves except for ice beam seem to be close to Blizzard in BP, not counting Kyurem's signature moves. And there's no 100 BP or higher physical ice move either, again not counting Black Kyurem's signature move. If we had some stronger ice moves Dragon can be kept in better check and thus the arguement that Dragon is broken and we need a new type would fall (more) apart.
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Freeze Shock and Ice Burn are strong, but they don't count as reliable since they take 2 turns to hit and are exclusive to Kyurem's B2/W2 formes. Also, there's no Ice move that's always guaranteed to freeze, which is a bit disturbing but it is a pretty broken status condition since it renders you unable to attack until you thaw out, and some moves can even free yourself from frozen status. |
I have been making the point of Freezing moves for Ages. We don't have a single move with more than 30% chance of freezing and that too is conditional ( Secret power). Also, i don't see how Freeze is broken. It's not a lot different from Sleep.And you have 9 moves that surely cause Sleep with very high accuracies.
While a sure freezing move will be annoying, we can at least have an Ice move with 30% freezing chance. |
If fire moves were dispersed more, then I'm okay with a 100% freeze move. Although I want it reduced to less than sleep in terms of when you "defrost" :x
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Freeze should come back to what it was in RBY, maybe make it not permanent but lasting more turns than sleep. It's the rarest status, it should be the most terrifying as well.
And Icicle Crash is already pretty good, the only problem with it is that only fat Pokémon learn it. |
They should also bring back the mechanic of no recharge move after KOing a Pokemon with a Hyper Beam-like move, so they wouldn't be as useless in battle as they are now.
As far as needing more powerful Ghost and Dark moves, a dA user, who generally despises Gen II, complained about how there's too many powerful moves like Dragon Pulse and and Sucker Punch and wished GF would stick with making more less powerful moves like Snarl and Bulldoze for Pokemon to learn like in the first two gens. |
I think the problem with giving freeze more chances to happen (when compared to sleep) is that it can (technically) last indefinitely, since you only have a 20% chance of unthawing naturally, whereas with sleep it's a five turn maximum and then you're guaranteed to wake up. Plus, the only moves that can unthaw yourself are Flame Wheel, Scald, Sacred Fire (Lol Ho-Oh), Flare Blitz, and Fusion Flare. It's just almost overpowering how much it can really incapacitate something for a large amount of time, so I would never want to see a 100% freezing move.
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The only game I really hated Freeze was in Emerald...got frozen by Walreins all the time. Yet I also inflicted the most freezes at that time. I sort of miss it now after 2 generations of barely seeing it, and the frozen Pokémon melting it right away anyways... perhaps they should restrict it to 6 turns, six as it's so rare, plus this is generation 6 xD. I'll like a 30 percent chance of freezing move with 60 power that's not secret power. And as I said before more physical ice moves! Also ice should be changed back to gen 1 where it was super effective against fire (yes Reshiram,Ho-oh, Moltres, Charzard, will go from 1x weak against fire to 4x).
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But the change to what it is now is what made sense: Fire MELTS Ice, making it weak to it. Changing it back would make no sense.
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The could make all fire moves and even some fighting moves get you out of there, or give it sing's awful 55 accuracy.
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I don't think Fighting type attacks make sense, but allowing more Fire moves to let you out would definitely be cool.
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I was thinking of how some movies have a character get totally frozen just to break out a few seconds later and keep on fighting, but now that I think of it I guess it doesn't really make sense for Pokemon
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But.. In the anime, yeah, it looks like some pokemon can do certain things, like, how many times have we've seen Pikachu break out of ice with Thunderbolt or Volt Tackle? There was even one episode on where Ash's Snorlax used Rest while it was frozen. Maybe it'd make sense if X&Y can change the way to break out a freezing state by incorporated, like... maybe using a move that has to do with increasing body heat? EDIT: well, actually, I just learned in bulbapedia that a frozen Pokémon can still use the moves Flame Wheel, Sacred Fire, Flare Blitz, Fusion Flare, and Scald while frozen; these moves will thaw the user. |
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We couldn't have an auto freeze move, it'd just be too broken. And to go back to freeze's old mechanics... I don't want to think about it. It'll be rise of the Serene Grace Pokémon with Ice Beam.
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In my opionion, Fire type Pokémon in general should have an advantage of thawing out faster than normal when frozen. If they were to make a move that had a 100% chance of freezing your opponent, then I think the indefinite amount of turns a Pokémon were to stay frozen would need to be changed to two - five turns similar to when a Pokémon is asleep during battle. Sunny Day should also allow for Pokémon to thaw out faster. It doesn't make sense how a Pokémon cannot be frozen under sunny weather, yet they can't be thawed out any faster when Sunny Day is in effect. It's a logical error I think GameFreak still needs to work out. |
I think the only way that GF will make an auto-freeze move is that if they'd change the mechanics of freezing in general. Maybe it'd be like sleeping and it'd be up too.. I think it is 3 turns now? (Speaking of which, boy did they nerf sleeping over the generations. @[email protected]) So, I'd like to think freezing would only be 1-3 turns if they made an auto freeze move.
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Speaking of sleep, I hope they change the mechanic they added in Gen 5 in that the sleep counter resets every time you switch out. I think it just made sleep overpowered a bit =/
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Not sure if this has been covered but something interesting about the gyms has came to light:
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It is well structured and certainly sounds believable, I'd be pretty happy with thos roster tbh. Oh and if this is true then we finally get that overdue Dark type leader we've been craving for. |
Although it's plausible, the descriptions of each person don't really feel written in a style that would be for any publication. The only reason I'd hope for this to be true is that I want that Dark type leader =P
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A lot of that sounds great, but I get the feeling it's still early yet for them to be releasing this information, more so because it's far too detailed in my opinion. They've not only given out the name of each gym leader, but their type, the name of their badges, and the location of each gym. It's too much too soon, and as good as it all sounds, it's probably too good. I'm leaning more towards fake on this one, but I certainly wouldn't mind if it were real.
Afterthought, the description of each gym leader's appearance sounds very tame. |
Yeah that just seems fake :/ but we NEED a dark type gym leader.
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To be honest, a lot of those ideas does sound very cool~ I mean, I immediately fell in love with that ballerina-esque gym! Perhaps it is too much info in so little time, but, I'd still say credit should be where credit is due.
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You guys do know that's from the Mister XY rumor right?
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Has Pokemon Smash revealed any hintful information regarding XY, which will be revealed in this month's Corocoro, or has the show not started yet?
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Leaks will start to appear soon, earliest believable leak would be tomorrow since that's the 10th, some may surface tonight since its currently the 10th in Japan and the subscribers get their issues today or tomorrow. In that time Pokemon.com will update either before the 15th which is the legal date of Coro Coro release or after the 15th. |
I won't really believe it til the 12th given that just seems like the day for leaks lol. I mean it was a common pattern in Gen 5 at least. :x
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13th really if you're on the other side of the Atlantic ocean. Any region name would come with the region as well.
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We could be getting possible leaks of this month's cover as early as tonight, but I am more expecting it start hitting the internet sometime around tomorrow or Tuesday instead. |
I call it the region of these games :3 It's going to be kind of strange given that for Unova we got to call it Isshu for a while but this time around we'll be at just the English name which'll be weird :x
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You know what, I really, really, hope that we get to see the rival. Or rivals. That, and new pokemon, of course~ But, at least the rival or maybe the protagonist's artwork is enough for me.
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Well if last month was any indication we could be getting them tonight. From what I hear on the grape vine they were already leaked a full 2 days before they were found, so anythings possible.
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I'd expect them tomorrow morning honestly, but who knows. The earlier the better obviously.
As for what to refer to the region as until the actual name gets released, it's just easier to call it "the new region" to me, as calling it by its speculated inspiration doesn't really make sense to me. |
Id say the earliest is tonight.
Im not willing to call it "France" or "PokeFrance" just yet. It could be based on more than just France. Yes the city in the trailer was probably inspired by Paris with that Eiiffel Tower looking thing, but it was only one place). I actually hope it is more than just France, as more of Europe would make for a much more interesting region with a lot of influences. |
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Nah, I want France to happen as is. Each country of Europe is too homogenous and diverse to cramp all in one region, and I fully expect a couple of regions to come out of the continent. The US didn't simply because while the east coast might be different from the midlands and the west coast, the country in general is the same in terms of culture, society and history,, where as Europe is 2000+ years of history for each country. A lot of different mythologies as well that can be a basis, is another factor.
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I think it'll be french only, with maybe some england and germany if anything else considering those three european nations show up the most in Japanese media. However it'll be best if England and Germany got their own regions where a certain part is central. Like the German region can be split in two, and England be split into zones, etc. I can see a lot being done with them which otherwise might not appear if they cram them all together.
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Do you think we will be able to buy pokemon online as DLC?
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I guess I can see why they'd only use one country, and France itself does have some varied regions so it by itself could provide an interesting region alone. England I don't see as potential inspiration for a region on it's own though.
And I could see something being offered as DLC potentially, but I wouldn't expect the entire games to be released digitally. |
Digital Download, Jake, would be a really great way to allow for easy cross gen transferring, so you should actually hope for it. Plop in B2W2, have the games read by X/Y which is installed on your 3DS, and bam! you have yourself all the Pokemon you want.
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Yeah, I can see the DLC being the way to get event legends, with perhaps some extra story as well, which would be nice for the event legends as they don't tend to be well explained. Perhaps the evil team can appear like how Plasma appeared in Liberty Island in BW. The level of their Pokémon can vary on the number of badges we got upon download.
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I actually really like the sound of that Derk! I think having battle damage show on the Pokémon too would be really cool, now that we have full models. It was hard to do with a sprite, but with a full model to work with having scratches and areas being roughed up a bit might be viable now. They started that with slower moving sprites with B/W, so this could just be a further extension of that!
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Well, I don't think what I'm about to say will happen, however, it will be very nice to see, but I would like a battle system on where you'd have to work with the current terrain. For example, say you have a Raichu, and say the opponent has a Milotic. The opponent can order the Milotic to dive in the nearby water field, to dodge electric attacks from your Raichu. But, what if you command your Raichu to dive in the lake after it, and use Thunderbolt while underwater? Since water conducts electricity better than air, that can be mega effective!
Well, like I said, this system will probably be too complicated to keep track of in X&Y, but, it'd be nice to devise strategies of the sort. ^^ |
It'd definitely add another aspect to battling, but it's going into the area of becoming overly complicated. Plus, movement has never really been an aspect of the games before, and it's just a giant variable that would be difficult to work with. Would probably make battles take twice as long as they already do.
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Some battle interaction will happen, as the trailer has showed us. To what extent who knows, but the Megahorn idea is brilliant. I would love a wailord to get flung across the screen. XD
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We won't be getting a Time Capsule feature ever again imo. It would just be too hard now with everything like new abilities and stuff that would be prevented.
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Time Capsule doesn't really have any practical point anymore with all the different forms of Pokémon transferring that we have now, with Pal Park and Poké Transfer. I doubt it would ever come back.
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It could be cool to have certain quests in the game where you could potentially pair up with a friend to do it in a tag-team would be cool, but I wouldn't want it to be required. Other than I don't really know, I play Pokémon more solo-oriented so no clue =P
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I'd like to be able to create personal battle tournament rooms like they have in Mario Kart 7.
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I doubt something like this would ever be done in the Pokemon universe due to complexity. |
I'll like it if they bumped up the number of moves a given Pokémon can have to 5. It can give us more to work with.
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With Sylveon only showcasing 4 attacks I think its still four. Besides that 5 attacks on Pokemon would upset the tiers for current meta as a lot of new formats would open up. it would probably throw the current meta into as much chaos as a new type would.
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There was talk before Ruby & Sapphire's release that the Pokemon would be able to have more than 4 moves at a time but that never happened. |
I can't see why they'd change to five moves after 17 years. If the idea was dropped with gen III, I don't see it happening now.
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Not sure if anyone has seen this, but:
http://www.corocoro.tv/image/coro1/201304/main.jpg This was taken from CoroCoro's website. It's believed to be April's cover page issue of CoroCoro. If you take a look at the top-right corner of the page, you'll see the starters. It's probably nothing, but maybe it can mean that April's edition will bring more info about the starters? (btw, the issue that comes out in March is April's edition of Corocoro) |
I'm pretty sure that's Ichiban, which is just the side magazine of CoroCoro from a few weeks ago, which had nothing.
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Well, either or, I didn't expect much anyway. Probably just a showcase of the starters. |
I don't want you guys to get too excited, but apparently this issue has quite a bit. Doesn't sound like just Sylveon and screens for XY. God the wait is killing me.
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I'm hoping that we get leaks later tonight. Ah well, if I have to wait four more days I guess I can.
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Leaks definitely will be coming by tomorrow the latest, its already in the hands of the usual leakers.
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Oh daym that's awesome! By stickers I assume that means we'll see many X/Y mons? n_n That's great to hear~
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Hopefully. For all we know it could be the ones we already know about.
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Hey, hey, well, that's good to hear! I'm also excited on what we'll see! Even if it's not much, some news is better than no news, right?
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Given that we only know six, and by "various" I would assume it's a looooot more than just six imo.
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True Enough. I'm just trying to keep my expectations as low as possible so I won't be disappointed. But if its LOOOOT more then 6, by Arceus is this month gonna be so fun.
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Yeah, substantial is all I care about, not new Pokemon. I get really annoyed when people tell me wait for June, when in all honesty news should be substantial from here on out.
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I'm just hoping for regional information, and character art. I'm still trying to not expect much though x.x
The whole Sylveon hype's worn off me so I could care less if they reveal his type >.> |
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Honestly I'm not getting my hopes super-high just so I don't get super disappointed, but I'm definitely excited for the leaks! If anything, I'd just like to see the rivals and some new Pokémon. I'm expecting them to keep Sylveon's typing and stuff about the starters hidden longer. It just feels too early for them to release that kind of stuff.
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