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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 2:03 PM

Less than 30 minutes until smash starts, and a little less than an hour until they'll announce the "new Pokémon" (if they wait until the end like usual).

Xander Olivieri April 6th, 2013 2:14 PM

I'll post things as they go.

Sabrewulf238 April 6th, 2013 2:18 PM

This will be my first time watching Pokemon Smash, should be interesting....well for the first 10 minutes. Then I'll probably get bored from not understanding anything they're saying.

No doubt the reveal will be in the last 15 minutes or so.

Gary's Ho-oh April 6th, 2013 2:26 PM

This will be my first time too (watching it live, that is). Can't wait. I won't have a clue they'll say but I love the Japanese language (and its craziness) so my ears won't mind. And I don't care how long I have to wait for the end of the show I just want to see it.

Nick April 6th, 2013 2:26 PM

Where do you go to watch Pokémon Smash??

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 2:29 PM

I'm watching it from the link Suicune posted earlier. Hopefully I won't be too weird out...I've seen non live smash episodes before and they were strange to say the least xD
Okay it's starting!

Gary's Ho-oh April 6th, 2013 2:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W_KgsVeYIKM&proxmate=us

This was posted earlier (I apologies if I'm not allowed to do this)

blue April 6th, 2013 2:32 PM

The "?" Pokemon was battling against a Cloyster so I can only assume it & Shellder will also be included in the regional Dex?
Oh, and it looks like it was using the move Shadow Ball... Sableye anyone?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 2:35 PM

Lol the commercial earlier...
Yay it's finally starting for real. I do guess Cloyster will be popping up...also the ? was using looked like a ghost move...could it be Mewtwo, Sableye evolution, or an eeveelution (they can use Shadow ball too)

Nick April 6th, 2013 2:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary's Ho-oh (Post 7612344)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W_KgsVeYIKM&proxmate=us

This was posted earlier (I apologies if I'm not allowed to do this)

Thanks!! You are a scholar and a gentleman. :)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 2:51 PM

It's almost time :)
Lol the iris cosplay.

Xander Olivieri April 6th, 2013 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7612351)
The "?" Pokemon was battling against a Cloyster so I can only assume it & Shellder will also be included in the regional Dex?
Oh, and it looks like it was using the move Shadow Ball... Sableye anyone?

That's just advertising. Doesn't necissarily mean they'll be in the games.

thedestinedblade April 6th, 2013 3:05 PM

What's going?! lol, why is that dude enjoying a meal?

blue April 6th, 2013 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7612391)
That's just advertising. Doesn't necissarily mean they'll be in the games.

I know, but I'm assuming it's a possibility.

They shown the starters battling right before Masuda lifted up the Red "?" card, I wonder if it has anything to do with them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:09 PM

Mewtwo forms are confirmed!

blue April 6th, 2013 3:10 PM

http://www.serebii.net/smash4131.jpg

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire April 6th, 2013 3:10 PM

They did it, they ruined him.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:13 PM

The Trailer was Mewtwo too, it doesn't look bad with this quality :)

thedestinedblade April 6th, 2013 3:13 PM

Nintendo, I am disappoint. :sleeping:

Hikamaru April 6th, 2013 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7612412)

It looks kinda odd, but I think this is the first time a Pokemon gets a new form in a game that the Pokemon was not introduced in the generation in question.

Mewtwo I admit looks weird in this form lol.

Z25 April 6th, 2013 3:13 PM

See i knew that scan was real!

Rivvon April 6th, 2013 3:15 PM

I hope this means we will get more info on Mewtwo's backstory in Gen 6. There was a thread about that kind of thing here a while ago, with a lot of non-believers. I'm glad to see this happening, though. It's looking like gen 6 will be focusing on genetics to some extent at this point. I do wish there was more information or gameplay though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:16 PM

Well Mewtwo is the first Pokémon to get a Signature move outside of it's generation too...seems like Mewtwo is the only Pokémon who seems to get things outside it's generation that doesn't evolve...

Moist April 6th, 2013 3:18 PM

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!NROPIHidnlghiOwhobg klsjpvjlbhseogfl

I hate you Game Freak.

Was its name announced?

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:18 PM

The new forme looks... odd, but somewhat cool. I think I'll like it, even though it seems like something straight from an ephemeral subgenre.

edit: You guys knock him far too fast. Everyone did the same thing to Oshawott, then everyone loved him. We've done it to Froakie and already some of the old haters are liking his appearance. Just give it some time.

blue April 6th, 2013 3:19 PM

I do like the design already, I just feel it may ruin Mewtwo for many people.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:20 PM

I loved it as soon as I saw it in better quality (I liked it in the scan too after I found it's body in the image xD). So it's got some love too :3

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:22 PM

It only 'ruins it' because it's a new forme to a classic Pokemon. Again, people will grow to love the forme and the original separate from each other, as Mewtwo is still Mewtwo! XD

Cerberus87 April 6th, 2013 3:22 PM

Hahaha loving all the nostalgia crooks saying they'll quit Pokémon.

It doesn't look bad. In fact, it looks better than the scans! And I totally like the prospect of Mewtwo getting a new form. The game has evolved, and other powerhouses surfaced. Mewtwo the original is still powerful, but a new form might be what it needs to be KING again!

Ben. April 6th, 2013 3:22 PM

Mewthree/New mewtwo form looks rad in my opinion
Spoiler:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:25 PM

I think the same, don't know why it's getting hate, guess it's Nostalgia. I may have joined the based with Gen 3 but I don't think I'll be angry if they ever gave the Latis, or Groudon, and Kyogre formes. I sort of want Groudon to get one so that they can give it fire as a typing :3

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:26 PM

I concur with the idea of 'Mewthree.' It fits the trend of the Mew names and what else could it possibly be? Then again, it is just a forme so it could have something completely different!

Xander Olivieri April 6th, 2013 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7612456)
Hahaha loving all the nostalgia crooks saying they'll quit Pokémon.

It doesn't look bad. In fact, it looks better than the scans! And I totally like the prospect of Mewtwo getting a new form. The game has evolved, and other powerhouses surfaced. Mewtwo the original is still powerful, but a new form might be what it needs to be KING again!

Eh....they most likely will only redistribute its stats. It'll still be 3rd highest and possibility of them messing him up by taking away his incredible special stat is pretty high.

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:27 PM

I imagine Speed and Special Defense will get some sort of tremendous gain, if there's any stat boosts. That thing looks like it levitates and can move extremely fast.

edit: Special Attack, too, of course!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:28 PM

May they give Mewtwo's new forme B and W Kyurem Stats to make it king again? That'll be something...

Cerberus87 April 6th, 2013 3:28 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7612468)
Eh....they most likely will only redistribute its stats. It'll still be 3rd highest and possibility of them messing him up by taking away his incredible special stat is pretty high.

A different stat distribution might make him more effective in the metagame. And it also could be gaining a new type, who knows.

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:31 PM

We got one reveal... wow, that was really anti-climactic. I was expecting something about the games, not just that Mewtwo forme reveal. :s

blue April 6th, 2013 3:35 PM

The Pokemon website has been updated with the New Pokemon, nothing we don't already know but it still looks good.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:35 PM

Pokémon.com makes it sound as if it may not be Mewtwo after all...but Mewthree from the way they're calling it a Pokémon that resembles Mewtwo but isn't quite the same...of course this could also mean it's a more powerful forme as it's stronger than before.

antemortem April 6th, 2013 3:37 PM

Maybe it's Mewthree and it has to do with someone trying to genetically splice Mewtwo and Mew's genes back together, but yet another malfunction caused Mewthree to be born instead? I don't know, something cool like that. xD

Rivvon April 6th, 2013 3:39 PM

Weren't the Kyurem formes described as "new" before anything about them being formes was officially announced? The international Pokémon site could just be being vague for the sake of not revealing anything else yet, which I'm actually kind of disappointed about. We still don't know Sylveon's Type, the name of the region, or the mascots' Types, and now we don't have any solid info on this new guy.

Cyclone April 6th, 2013 3:39 PM

I was late to the stream. The first comment that stood out was "boobs confirmed".

So...I saw the new Mewtwo form. I want to just point out that I called it from its appearance in the trailer. I will commence gloating.

I'll gloat even more if Sylveon ends up being Ghost-type (may not be confirmed yet).

Cyclone

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:39 PM

It's possible...or what if someone tried fusing Mewtwo's genes with Genesect's to create this (sure it looks more like Mewtwo but both those Pokémon have to do with genes).

Sabrewulf238 April 6th, 2013 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spherical Ice (Post 7611970)

This must be fake then, since the legs on the newly confirmed "Mewthree" are all wrong.

I think I dislike him a bit less now that I know he's not a Mewtwo form, he still looks really weird though. I'll probably only learn to tolerate him.

Cyclone April 6th, 2013 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7612513)
This must be fake then, since the legs on the newly confirmed "Mewthree" are all wrong.

I think I dislike him a bit less now that I know he's not a Mewtwo form, he still looks really weird though. I'll probably only learn to tolerate him.

Wait. Did they call it a Forme, or an entirely new Pokémon? Bulbapedia already locked the page to stop speculation edits.

Cyclone

Treecko April 6th, 2013 3:46 PM

The Pokemon website mentions alot about it being a new Pokemon so until I know more , I'm gonna go with that and say it's a new Pokemon related to Mewtwo. Though they have stated a Pokemon's new before and it just ends up being a new form. Just leaning more toward a new Pokemon related to Mewtwo.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:48 PM

Mewtwo had a kid much like Mew is said to have given "birth" to Me? Or just another group looking to make a power house legend out of Mew's genes.

Cyclone April 6th, 2013 3:52 PM

BTW, here's the replay of the livestream linked earlier.

Cyclone

Sabrewulf238 April 6th, 2013 3:55 PM

That this pokemon is a completely new pokemon and not a form of Mewtwo seems very believable. After all a similar connection already exists between Mew and Mewtwo. Not everything has to be a new form.

Did anyone else think the windy ice move it used when it was attacking gyarados looked really fierce?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 3:57 PM

These games are a mystery to look forward to.

Wonder if they're going to treat all the reveals like this, leaving us guessing and speculating xD

Cyclone April 6th, 2013 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7612547)
These games are a mystery to look forward to.

Wonder if they're going to treat all the reveals like this, leaving us guessing and speculating xD

The Magic 8-Ball says: "Absolutely!"

I happen to think so, too.

Cyclone

blue April 6th, 2013 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7612574)
The Magic 8-Ball says: "Absolutely!"

I happen to think so, too.

Cyclone

So only 149 more major announcement reveals to go!

No but it will be interesting to see how they reveal the rest of the Pokemon, Sylveon & Mewtwo Forme was certainly interesting. These games are shaping up to be peculiarly intriguing

Gary's Ho-oh April 6th, 2013 4:20 PM

I said I liked it when we only had some poor quality scans and I still like after seeing its artwork and gameplay footage in high quality.

But yeah, people will get over it. Just give them time

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 4:26 PM

Hopefully, I don't want to hear peoples rants about it even a year after the games have come out like with some of the Unova Pokémon.

Have anyone noticed how thus far the only Pokémon revealed that weren't revealed in the trailer when the games were announced aka Sylveon and Mewtwo (forme)/three are connected to Kanto. May other Kanto Pokémon appear? Because it seems there's quite a focus on Kanto as of right now. I'm hoping we get some more original gen 6 and evolutions/ Pokémon related to gen 2-5.

Gary's Ho-oh April 6th, 2013 4:34 PM

I've noticed something on how Nintendo/Game Freak/whoever announced this: they never flat out said this "new Pokémon" is actually Mewtwo in any of the places revealing this. I know they want to make it worth talking about but the official YouTube trailer said it "bears an intriguing resemblance to the Legendary Mewtwo!" or something similar everywhere else.

I still believe this is in fact a Mewtwo form but we won't get a clear answer from the guys at Pokémon for maybe a while.

blue April 6th, 2013 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary's Ho-oh (Post 7612623)
I've noticed something on how Nintendo/Game Freak/whoever announced this: they never flat out said this "new Pokémon" is actually Mewtwo in any of the places revealing this. I know they want to make it worth talking about but the official YouTube trailer said it "bears an intriguing resemblance to the Legendary Mewtwo!"

I still believe this is in fact a Mewtwo form but we won't get a clear answer from the guys at Pokémon for maybe a while.

On the official website it is titled "Who is this new Pokémon?"

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 5:58 PM

It could be Gf trolling us by making this "New Pokémon" seem like a different species when it's actually Mewtwo...like the official site says X and Y just keep getting more mysterious.

Gary's Ho-oh April 6th, 2013 6:25 PM

And the film we know it will appear in (thanks to the leak) won't come out in Japan until July 13, a good 3 months from now. So it's going to be a LOOONG ride before we might get solid info.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 6th, 2013 6:27 PM

Same with Sylveon...well at least this reassures our thoughts about the Summer bringing a flood of Pokémon X and Y news.

brica8 April 6th, 2013 6:38 PM

I think there might be a big hint to this being a new pokemon...

On the pokemon website it says "This pokemon shares many traits with Mewtwo, including a light-purple body, and piercing, powerful eyes."

Why mention anything about the eyes? Seems kind of pointless, until you see that the two have both a different style and colour of eyes. No form change has ever changed the eyes of the pokemon, and there would really be no reason to. I also don't see why they would choose to take Mewtwo's tail and turn it into part of the head.

Cyclone April 6th, 2013 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brica8 (Post 7612785)
I also don't see why they would choose to take Mewtwo's tail and turn it into part of the head.

This. So much this. A Mewtwo forme would still have a tail. This...thing has a normal waist and rear end.

I'm starting to believe the lovechild of Mewtwo and Jessie idea. #Joke

Cyclone

Mujahid April 6th, 2013 9:11 PM

This looks SO much better than the poster. I was against the design but now i find it Kinda cool.

Keyaki April 6th, 2013 9:13 PM

One thing for sure, this is gonna take for me to get used to it.

I don't really hate TOO much. I just really wish it wasn't true.

Pinkie-Dawn April 6th, 2013 9:20 PM

If this Mewtwo clone really is a new Pokemon for XY, then we've finally have ourselves our Gen VI Lucario clone.

porkiewpyne April 6th, 2013 9:21 PM

Not a HUUUGE fan but hey, it could have been worse. And we finally have something new to talk about. Though I wish they revealed a little bit more about Gen 6. :)

Mujahid April 6th, 2013 9:24 PM

Read this somewhere. What if This is a more perfect clone of Mew called Mewtwo X(or Y). This is in accordance with the genesect image where there are two boxes beneath Mewtwo. We'll have a Mewtwo X and a Mewtwo Y.

Scarecr0wFixatioN April 6th, 2013 9:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7613109)
As if that was going to be surprising. It was only a matter of time until we had ourselves a "Lucario/Zoroark" clone of some sort. Considering that this is a "Lucario" clone, as you put it, I wonder what's going to be the next Zoroark?


Makes me wonder if this would be a legendary or not. I can see it playing an important role plot wise possibly.

Mark Kamill April 7th, 2013 12:24 AM

Its gonna be a new forme. Do you guys really see them giving us Mewtwo in the movie title, only for a new Pokemon to be the real star? No, me neither. Just how its gonna play out, I'm gonna say wait till CoroCoro. If we're getting a movie trailer on the 18th, is safe to assume that we might get something from CoroCoro with its event.

Sabrewulf238 April 7th, 2013 12:40 AM

So I just came to the realization that this probably means Mewthree will get into smash bros over the original Mewtwo. D:

Also had another scare, what if they call this new pokemon Mewx or Mewxy? That would be terrible.

Lastly with the inclusion of this pokemon, do you think it might mean that Team Rocket will be the main villains in Pokemon XY?

SolarAbusoru April 7th, 2013 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7613373)
So I just came to the realization that this probably means Mewthree will get into smash bros over the original Mewtwo. D:

Also had another scare, what if they call this new pokemon Mewx or Mewxy? That would be terrible.

Lastly with the inclusion of this pokemon, do you think it might mean that Team Rocket will be the main villains in Pokemon XY?

No they won't

A lot of people here seem to forget that in the games, Team Rocket had no relation to Mewtwo at all, Mewtwo was birthed by a group of scientists in a mansion on Cinnabar island, these scientists were independent and had no affiliation with Team Rocket whatsoever.
Mewtwo was only created by Team Rocket in the anime, which as we should all know by now, is non-canon. So no, Team Rocket will not be in X and Y cause of this new Mew clone, because they never had anything to do with Mew in the games at all.

Liberal Army April 7th, 2013 1:52 AM

First glance, I was disapointed. But now I'm over it. It looks really awesome! I'm still hoping this is going to be a new Pokémon rather than a new Mewtwo forme.
The Pokemon Company International stated that this is a new Pokemon, but has a connection with Mewtwo. But hey, Mewtwo is also connected with Mew and these are still 2 different Pokemon. Mewthree?

And btw, we can savely say this is a Psychic type, right?

blue April 7th, 2013 5:07 AM

I'll say this, it is better than any previous formes in legendaries we've had (IMO) i.e Kyurem, Giratina, Keldeo etc. If it is a new Pokemon then even better!

JP April 7th, 2013 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7613356)
Its gonna be a new forme. Do you guys really see them giving us Mewtwo in the movie title, only for a new Pokemon to be the real star? No, me neither. Just how its gonna play out, I'm gonna say wait till CoroCoro. If we're getting a movie trailer on the 18th, is safe to assume that we might get something from CoroCoro with its event.

Movie titles aren't always final. Wouldn't be the first time that they had one title only to change it later on to prevent any kind of spoiler. If I remember right, they did it with the Zoroark movie.

Cyclone April 7th, 2013 6:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 7613268)

An image is better here.

Also, I call fake. The poster was for B/W/B2/W2. It looks like a horrible Photoshop.

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3133/mewtwoformes.png

blue April 7th, 2013 6:47 AM

This would have been more suited for the 20th anniversary if you ask me but I wonder what role it will play in game, Mewtwo could also be a major part of X & Y.

Pinkie-Dawn April 7th, 2013 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7613715)
An image is better here.

Also, I call fake. The poster was for B/W/B2/W2. It looks like a horrible Photoshop.

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3133/mewtwoformes.png

But that poster might be giving a hint that our new Pokemon could be a new forme for Mewtwo rather than a new Pokemon related a Mewtwo, because it's placed on the same position as Mewtwo from the previous poster.

Clannad April 7th, 2013 9:37 AM

It'd be cool if it was some failed Mew experiment; hence the similarities to Mewtwo. I really hope it's not a Mewtwo evolution/alternate form-surely, even Gamefreak is not capable of producing such blasphemy. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

brica8 April 7th, 2013 10:58 AM

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In regards to this picture...

People think that this shows Genesect along with its other 4 forms below, meaning Mewtwo will have 2 forms of its own. But we already know that the Shiny Genesect seems to be the leader of the other 4 that escaped. Perhaps it isn't different forms, but a team vs team idea with the leaders at the top?

antemortem April 7th, 2013 11:29 AM

Meaning maybe this new Mewtwo-like creature is one of Mewtwo's henchman, and that there is another that could also be at his side? Perhaps the two new ones, if there is another new one yet to be seen, are both failed experiments and it's a kind of experimentation war? That'd be a pretty solid plot point, honestly.

Liberal Army April 7th, 2013 11:39 AM

Your theory could become reality.
And this new Form/Pokemon has to be a brand new Pokémon. The official site is hinting it;
"Who is this new Pokemon?"
"Newly discovered Pokemon."
"Shares some traits with Mewtwo."
And also questionmarks beneath his artwork. Why would they conceil its name if it is just a Mewtwo? Why? Why the questionmarks? Because it is a new species!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 7th, 2013 11:45 AM

I think they made the Genesect army so they can show all of Genesects different drives, with the Shiny one representing the driveless Genesect, but made shiny to make it special. The same thing may happen with Mewtwo even if the ones assuming the formes are other Mewtwo's...which sort of ruins the uniqueness of Mewtwo as being the only Mew clone in the anime imo.

Also the concealed name may only be the name of the forme...perhaps it spoils how it's obtained...

Eruption April 7th, 2013 5:42 PM

I haven't posted on these forums for a long time, but this felt important enough to bring be back.

Mewtwo is one of those core pokemon you just don't touch, so I hope they handle this really carefully. Although they'll struggle to impress me, because I'm still angry things like Pichu were ever made.

If anything, I hope it's just related and not a forme of Mewtwo because then it's easier to forget about.

This is a long shot but looking at the size of it, it could play a similar role to Phione (bred from Mewtwo, can't evolve).

Cyclone April 7th, 2013 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 7614684)
I haven't posted on these forums for a long time, but this felt important enough to bring be back.

Mewtwo is one of those core pokemon you just don't touch, so I hope they handle this really carefully. Although they'll struggle to impress me, because I'm still angry things like Pichu were ever made.

If anything, I hope it's just related and not a forme of Mewtwo because then it's easier to forget about.

This is a long shot but looking at the size of it, it could play a similar role to Phione (bred from Mewtwo, can't evolve).

I'm going to copy this over to the Smash Live Feed thread if you don't mind. It was revealed in that episode and thus this is being discussed, and your idea of being like Phione could add to that discussion.

Cyclone

Haza April 7th, 2013 7:50 PM

I really do think that Mewtwo from the first film has probably dedicated himself to seeking justice for Pokemon when it comes to their dealings with humans. He's probably mos sensitive when it comes to abominations like himself, which is why he's appearing again in the upcoming film with Genesect. The NewMew is probably one of the previous failed experiments in cloning mew, and there could even be more. I think the point of them is to tie into with the now obvious genetics them of X&Y, and the perfect opportunity to explain more on the Mew cloning experiments. I really think it's a separate Pokemon, and that this one along with possible other clones will be the key to fighting and calming the Genesects. MEWTWO's AWAKENING is still valid since the old Mewtwo has already proven to be quite the leader with Pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 7th, 2013 8:57 PM

Usually whenever a new legendary is being shown that legendary is the focus of the Movie, I find it odd that they wouldn't do that this time around if it does turn out to be a new Pokémon as it'll steal the spotlight from Mewtwo, and take even more of the light from Genesect.

Anyway a week until Corocoro...perhaps it'll show off the second forme, or other "clone".

blue April 8th, 2013 4:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7614904)
Usually whenever a new legendary is being shown that legendary is the focus of the Movie, I find it odd that they wouldn't do that this time around if it does turn out to be a new Pokémon as it'll steal the spotlight from Mewtwo, and take even more of the light from Genesect.

Anyway a week until Corocoro...perhaps it'll show off the second forme, or other "clone".

Hopefully, either that or more details on what we already know and an answer to whether this new pokemon is in fact a new Pokemon or just a Mewtwo forme.

Ho-Oh April 8th, 2013 5:47 AM

I don't think we'll get much more information in CoroCoro at this point. I think they want it to be international so I doubt we'll get much because that'd not be very ~international~

Guy April 8th, 2013 8:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7615279)
I don't think we'll get much more information in CoroCoro at this point. I think they want it to be international so I doubt we'll get much because that'd not be very ~international~

That's not necessarily true. In February, early leaks from CoroCoro revealed Sylveon. A day before CoroCoro's official release in Japan, Sylveon was officially revealed internationally outside of Japan through the official site. Newtwo was also officially revealed in an episode of Pokémon Smash, which is a Japanese show, but internationally the official site revealed it around the same time.

They can still reveal big things through CoroCoro if they want to regardless of it being a Japanese-specific magazine. The Pokémon Company clearly knows what will be in it ahead of time and will just update the official site either a day before, at the same time, or maybe a little while after to reveal it internationally.

Ho-Oh April 8th, 2013 9:02 AM

Oh right, I forgot about that. But idk, we only just got MewZ info even still not so long ago, and given how slow they are with information, they might just end up making us wait another month (also we know more at this point than we did in Generation 5 despite information being slowww).

Cyclone April 8th, 2013 9:05 AM

Well, imagine with the Japanese-only release how long we waited for information. :P

We got a little scoop this month. They won't reveal Sylveon's type yet. But my Ghost guess remains intact as my first instinct. I'm ust wondering if the pink could mean a new type instead of my second guess of Dragon.

Cyclone

Shiny Celebi April 8th, 2013 9:22 AM

I dont expect much more of this NewMew info, they might decide to hype it a bit more before revealing it so I wont be too dissapointed if that's the case. I dont expect anything else other than that from CoroCoro.

Gary's Ho-oh April 8th, 2013 9:40 AM

This might be handy: all known theories so far:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7292153600/h508173B0/

TBH, theory #6 is something I have considered since this new Pokémon looks like a younger Mewtwo (though that wouldn't explain why it would lose its ability to know all TM's and HM's)

PokemonPlatnum April 8th, 2013 3:58 PM

Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.

Guy April 8th, 2013 4:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PokemonPlatnum (Post 7615858)
Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.

While it's not impossible, I don't see them using the DNA Splicers for Mew and Mewtwo here. It seems like a key item that's specific to just Kyurem and Zekrom or Reshiram.

As for how Newtwo fits in between Mew and Mewtwo, I'm kind of hoping it's a failed experiment and is its own Pokémon. If it's any sort of evolution or bridge evolution for Mewtwo and Mew, then I feel like that lessens their status as legendaries in a way.

Vapie April 8th, 2013 4:16 PM

I am perfectly happy with this Newtwo as long as it is its own thing, and not a new form of Mewtwo. They could do a lot with this new Pokemon.

Cyclone April 8th, 2013 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PokemonPlatnum (Post 7615858)
Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.

Both have a tail, or in Mewtwo's case what could pass for a tail. The new one has it on its head, like Jessie's hair (hence why that lovechild joke exists). It's not a splicer.

Cyclone

Pinkie-Dawn April 8th, 2013 4:40 PM

I sincerely hope this Newtwo is legal to use in official battle facilities, depending if it's on the same ranks as Latios, Latias, Heatran, Regigigas, and Cressilia, because I would consider replacing Alakazam for this guy as my Psychic main.

Shiny Celebi April 8th, 2013 4:48 PM

If it's a forme of Mewtwo, it may not be usable in official facilities. If it's it's own thing, it may or may not, hard to say. While Id like it to be it's own species, I'm prepared for it to just be a form.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 8th, 2013 6:56 PM

Well neither Mew and Mewtwo are allowed in the battle facilities so I'm guessing they'll do the same with the new clone/forme, unless if they were to give it a Slacking/Regigigas/ Archeops like ability.

Xander Olivieri April 8th, 2013 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary's Ho-oh (Post 7615424)
This might be handy: all known theories so far:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7292153600/h508173B0/

TBH, theory #6 is something I have considered since this new Pokémon looks like a younger Mewtwo (though that wouldn't explain why it would lose its ability to know all TM's and HM's)

#3 to #6 have little to no chance of ever happening. #6 Can never happen. Mewtwo is the Clone of Mew. The two aren't directly linked through evolution. In essence Mew and Mewtwo are the same being living in the same time in separate bodies. They are their own individual persona's but they are the same being since one if made from the other.

There is very little, like 0%, chance of them linking the two through evolution or even evolving either of them. With Mewtwo existing before a Pre-evo and not having the ability to breed, there isn't much chance of it being mewtwo's pre-evo.

So #1 or #2 are the only possible answers.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7615932)
I sincerely hope this Newtwo is legal to use in official battle facilities, depending if it's on the same ranks as Latios, Latias, Heatran, Regigigas, and Cressilia, because I would consider replacing Alakazam for this guy as my Psychic main.

If Mewtwo and Mew aren't high chance that this one won't either. If Mewtwo form, then we definitely can't use. If related then it would depend on how they make him. If he is as I think, another download/Event Legendary, then nope. He could be our new Victini after all.


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