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Less than 30 minutes until smash starts, and a little less than an hour until they'll announce the "new Pokémon" (if they wait until the end like usual).
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I'll post things as they go.
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This will be my first time watching Pokemon Smash, should be interesting....well for the first 10 minutes. Then I'll probably get bored from not understanding anything they're saying.
No doubt the reveal will be in the last 15 minutes or so. |
This will be my first time too (watching it live, that is). Can't wait. I won't have a clue they'll say but I love the Japanese language (and its craziness) so my ears won't mind. And I don't care how long I have to wait for the end of the show I just want to see it.
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Where do you go to watch Pokémon Smash??
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I'm watching it from the link Suicune posted earlier. Hopefully I won't be too weird out...I've seen non live smash episodes before and they were strange to say the least xD
Okay it's starting! |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W_KgsVeYIKM&proxmate=us
This was posted earlier (I apologies if I'm not allowed to do this) |
The "?" Pokemon was battling against a Cloyster so I can only assume it & Shellder will also be included in the regional Dex?
Oh, and it looks like it was using the move Shadow Ball... Sableye anyone? |
Lol the commercial earlier...
Yay it's finally starting for real. I do guess Cloyster will be popping up...also the ? was using looked like a ghost move...could it be Mewtwo, Sableye evolution, or an eeveelution (they can use Shadow ball too) |
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It's almost time :)
Lol the iris cosplay. |
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What's going?! lol, why is that dude enjoying a meal?
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They shown the starters battling right before Masuda lifted up the Red "?" card, I wonder if it has anything to do with them. |
Mewtwo forms are confirmed!
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They did it, they ruined him.
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The Trailer was Mewtwo too, it doesn't look bad with this quality :)
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Nintendo, I am disappoint. :sleeping:
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Mewtwo I admit looks weird in this form lol. |
See i knew that scan was real!
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I hope this means we will get more info on Mewtwo's backstory in Gen 6. There was a thread about that kind of thing here a while ago, with a lot of non-believers. I'm glad to see this happening, though. It's looking like gen 6 will be focusing on genetics to some extent at this point. I do wish there was more information or gameplay though.
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Well Mewtwo is the first Pokémon to get a Signature move outside of it's generation too...seems like Mewtwo is the only Pokémon who seems to get things outside it's generation that doesn't evolve...
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I hate you Game Freak. Was its name announced? |
The new forme looks... odd, but somewhat cool. I think I'll like it, even though it seems like something straight from an ephemeral subgenre.
edit: You guys knock him far too fast. Everyone did the same thing to Oshawott, then everyone loved him. We've done it to Froakie and already some of the old haters are liking his appearance. Just give it some time. |
I do like the design already, I just feel it may ruin Mewtwo for many people.
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I loved it as soon as I saw it in better quality (I liked it in the scan too after I found it's body in the image xD). So it's got some love too :3
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It only 'ruins it' because it's a new forme to a classic Pokemon. Again, people will grow to love the forme and the original separate from each other, as Mewtwo is still Mewtwo! XD
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Hahaha loving all the nostalgia crooks saying they'll quit Pokémon.
It doesn't look bad. In fact, it looks better than the scans! And I totally like the prospect of Mewtwo getting a new form. The game has evolved, and other powerhouses surfaced. Mewtwo the original is still powerful, but a new form might be what it needs to be KING again! |
Mewthree/New mewtwo form looks rad in my opinion
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I think the same, don't know why it's getting hate, guess it's Nostalgia. I may have joined the based with Gen 3 but I don't think I'll be angry if they ever gave the Latis, or Groudon, and Kyogre formes. I sort of want Groudon to get one so that they can give it fire as a typing :3
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I concur with the idea of 'Mewthree.' It fits the trend of the Mew names and what else could it possibly be? Then again, it is just a forme so it could have something completely different!
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I imagine Speed and Special Defense will get some sort of tremendous gain, if there's any stat boosts. That thing looks like it levitates and can move extremely fast.
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May they give Mewtwo's new forme B and W Kyurem Stats to make it king again? That'll be something...
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We got one reveal... wow, that was really anti-climactic. I was expecting something about the games, not just that Mewtwo forme reveal. :s
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The Pokemon website has been updated with the New Pokemon, nothing we don't already know but it still looks good.
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Pokémon.com makes it sound as if it may not be Mewtwo after all...but Mewthree from the way they're calling it a Pokémon that resembles Mewtwo but isn't quite the same...of course this could also mean it's a more powerful forme as it's stronger than before.
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Maybe it's Mewthree and it has to do with someone trying to genetically splice Mewtwo and Mew's genes back together, but yet another malfunction caused Mewthree to be born instead? I don't know, something cool like that. xD
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Weren't the Kyurem formes described as "new" before anything about them being formes was officially announced? The international Pokémon site could just be being vague for the sake of not revealing anything else yet, which I'm actually kind of disappointed about. We still don't know Sylveon's Type, the name of the region, or the mascots' Types, and now we don't have any solid info on this new guy.
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I was late to the stream. The first comment that stood out was "boobs confirmed".
So...I saw the new Mewtwo form. I want to just point out that I called it from its appearance in the trailer. I will commence gloating. I'll gloat even more if Sylveon ends up being Ghost-type (may not be confirmed yet). Cyclone |
It's possible...or what if someone tried fusing Mewtwo's genes with Genesect's to create this (sure it looks more like Mewtwo but both those Pokémon have to do with genes).
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I think I dislike him a bit less now that I know he's not a Mewtwo form, he still looks really weird though. I'll probably only learn to tolerate him. |
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The Pokemon website mentions alot about it being a new Pokemon so until I know more , I'm gonna go with that and say it's a new Pokemon related to Mewtwo. Though they have stated a Pokemon's new before and it just ends up being a new form. Just leaning more toward a new Pokemon related to Mewtwo.
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Mewtwo had a kid much like Mew is said to have given "birth" to Me? Or just another group looking to make a power house legend out of Mew's genes.
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That this pokemon is a completely new pokemon and not a form of Mewtwo seems very believable. After all a similar connection already exists between Mew and Mewtwo. Not everything has to be a new form.
Did anyone else think the windy ice move it used when it was attacking gyarados looked really fierce? |
These games are a mystery to look forward to.
Wonder if they're going to treat all the reveals like this, leaving us guessing and speculating xD |
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I happen to think so, too. Cyclone |
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No but it will be interesting to see how they reveal the rest of the Pokemon, Sylveon & Mewtwo Forme was certainly interesting. These games are shaping up to be peculiarly intriguing |
I said I liked it when we only had some poor quality scans and I still like after seeing its artwork and gameplay footage in high quality.
But yeah, people will get over it. Just give them time |
Hopefully, I don't want to hear peoples rants about it even a year after the games have come out like with some of the Unova Pokémon.
Have anyone noticed how thus far the only Pokémon revealed that weren't revealed in the trailer when the games were announced aka Sylveon and Mewtwo (forme)/three are connected to Kanto. May other Kanto Pokémon appear? Because it seems there's quite a focus on Kanto as of right now. I'm hoping we get some more original gen 6 and evolutions/ Pokémon related to gen 2-5. |
I've noticed something on how Nintendo/Game Freak/whoever announced this: they never flat out said this "new Pokémon" is actually Mewtwo in any of the places revealing this. I know they want to make it worth talking about but the official YouTube trailer said it "bears an intriguing resemblance to the Legendary Mewtwo!" or something similar everywhere else.
I still believe this is in fact a Mewtwo form but we won't get a clear answer from the guys at Pokémon for maybe a while. |
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It could be Gf trolling us by making this "New Pokémon" seem like a different species when it's actually Mewtwo...like the official site says X and Y just keep getting more mysterious.
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And the film we know it will appear in (thanks to the leak) won't come out in Japan until July 13, a good 3 months from now. So it's going to be a LOOONG ride before we might get solid info.
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Same with Sylveon...well at least this reassures our thoughts about the Summer bringing a flood of Pokémon X and Y news.
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I think there might be a big hint to this being a new pokemon...
On the pokemon website it says "This pokemon shares many traits with Mewtwo, including a light-purple body, and piercing, powerful eyes." Why mention anything about the eyes? Seems kind of pointless, until you see that the two have both a different style and colour of eyes. No form change has ever changed the eyes of the pokemon, and there would really be no reason to. I also don't see why they would choose to take Mewtwo's tail and turn it into part of the head. |
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I'm starting to believe the lovechild of Mewtwo and Jessie idea. #Joke Cyclone |
This looks SO much better than the poster. I was against the design but now i find it Kinda cool.
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One thing for sure, this is gonna take for me to get used to it.
I don't really hate TOO much. I just really wish it wasn't true. |
If this Mewtwo clone really is a new Pokemon for XY, then we've finally have ourselves our Gen VI Lucario clone.
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Not a HUUUGE fan but hey, it could have been worse. And we finally have something new to talk about. Though I wish they revealed a little bit more about Gen 6. :)
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Read this somewhere. What if This is a more perfect clone of Mew called Mewtwo X(or Y). This is in accordance with the genesect image where there are two boxes beneath Mewtwo. We'll have a Mewtwo X and a Mewtwo Y.
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Makes me wonder if this would be a legendary or not. I can see it playing an important role plot wise possibly. |
Its gonna be a new forme. Do you guys really see them giving us Mewtwo in the movie title, only for a new Pokemon to be the real star? No, me neither. Just how its gonna play out, I'm gonna say wait till CoroCoro. If we're getting a movie trailer on the 18th, is safe to assume that we might get something from CoroCoro with its event.
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So I just came to the realization that this probably means Mewthree will get into smash bros over the original Mewtwo. D:
Also had another scare, what if they call this new pokemon Mewx or Mewxy? That would be terrible. Lastly with the inclusion of this pokemon, do you think it might mean that Team Rocket will be the main villains in Pokemon XY? |
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A lot of people here seem to forget that in the games, Team Rocket had no relation to Mewtwo at all, Mewtwo was birthed by a group of scientists in a mansion on Cinnabar island, these scientists were independent and had no affiliation with Team Rocket whatsoever. Mewtwo was only created by Team Rocket in the anime, which as we should all know by now, is non-canon. So no, Team Rocket will not be in X and Y cause of this new Mew clone, because they never had anything to do with Mew in the games at all. |
First glance, I was disapointed. But now I'm over it. It looks really awesome! I'm still hoping this is going to be a new Pokémon rather than a new Mewtwo forme.
The Pokemon Company International stated that this is a new Pokemon, but has a connection with Mewtwo. But hey, Mewtwo is also connected with Mew and these are still 2 different Pokemon. Mewthree? And btw, we can savely say this is a Psychic type, right? |
I'll say this, it is better than any previous formes in legendaries we've had (IMO) i.e Kyurem, Giratina, Keldeo etc. If it is a new Pokemon then even better!
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Also, I call fake. The poster was for B/W/B2/W2. It looks like a horrible Photoshop. http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3133/mewtwoformes.png |
This would have been more suited for the 20th anniversary if you ask me but I wonder what role it will play in game, Mewtwo could also be a major part of X & Y.
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It'd be cool if it was some failed Mew experiment; hence the similarities to Mewtwo. I really hope it's not a Mewtwo evolution/alternate form-surely, even Gamefreak is not capable of producing such blasphemy. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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In regards to this picture... People think that this shows Genesect along with its other 4 forms below, meaning Mewtwo will have 2 forms of its own. But we already know that the Shiny Genesect seems to be the leader of the other 4 that escaped. Perhaps it isn't different forms, but a team vs team idea with the leaders at the top? |
Meaning maybe this new Mewtwo-like creature is one of Mewtwo's henchman, and that there is another that could also be at his side? Perhaps the two new ones, if there is another new one yet to be seen, are both failed experiments and it's a kind of experimentation war? That'd be a pretty solid plot point, honestly.
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Your theory could become reality.
And this new Form/Pokemon has to be a brand new Pokémon. The official site is hinting it; "Who is this new Pokemon?" "Newly discovered Pokemon." "Shares some traits with Mewtwo." And also questionmarks beneath his artwork. Why would they conceil its name if it is just a Mewtwo? Why? Why the questionmarks? Because it is a new species! |
I think they made the Genesect army so they can show all of Genesects different drives, with the Shiny one representing the driveless Genesect, but made shiny to make it special. The same thing may happen with Mewtwo even if the ones assuming the formes are other Mewtwo's...which sort of ruins the uniqueness of Mewtwo as being the only Mew clone in the anime imo.
Also the concealed name may only be the name of the forme...perhaps it spoils how it's obtained... |
I haven't posted on these forums for a long time, but this felt important enough to bring be back.
Mewtwo is one of those core pokemon you just don't touch, so I hope they handle this really carefully. Although they'll struggle to impress me, because I'm still angry things like Pichu were ever made. If anything, I hope it's just related and not a forme of Mewtwo because then it's easier to forget about. This is a long shot but looking at the size of it, it could play a similar role to Phione (bred from Mewtwo, can't evolve). |
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I really do think that Mewtwo from the first film has probably dedicated himself to seeking justice for Pokemon when it comes to their dealings with humans. He's probably mos sensitive when it comes to abominations like himself, which is why he's appearing again in the upcoming film with Genesect. The NewMew is probably one of the previous failed experiments in cloning mew, and there could even be more. I think the point of them is to tie into with the now obvious genetics them of X&Y, and the perfect opportunity to explain more on the Mew cloning experiments. I really think it's a separate Pokemon, and that this one along with possible other clones will be the key to fighting and calming the Genesects. MEWTWO's AWAKENING is still valid since the old Mewtwo has already proven to be quite the leader with Pokemon.
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Usually whenever a new legendary is being shown that legendary is the focus of the Movie, I find it odd that they wouldn't do that this time around if it does turn out to be a new Pokémon as it'll steal the spotlight from Mewtwo, and take even more of the light from Genesect.
Anyway a week until Corocoro...perhaps it'll show off the second forme, or other "clone". |
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I don't think we'll get much more information in CoroCoro at this point. I think they want it to be international so I doubt we'll get much because that'd not be very ~international~
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They can still reveal big things through CoroCoro if they want to regardless of it being a Japanese-specific magazine. The Pokémon Company clearly knows what will be in it ahead of time and will just update the official site either a day before, at the same time, or maybe a little while after to reveal it internationally. |
Oh right, I forgot about that. But idk, we only just got MewZ info even still not so long ago, and given how slow they are with information, they might just end up making us wait another month (also we know more at this point than we did in Generation 5 despite information being slowww).
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Well, imagine with the Japanese-only release how long we waited for information. :P
We got a little scoop this month. They won't reveal Sylveon's type yet. But my Ghost guess remains intact as my first instinct. I'm ust wondering if the pink could mean a new type instead of my second guess of Dragon. Cyclone |
I dont expect much more of this NewMew info, they might decide to hype it a bit more before revealing it so I wont be too dissapointed if that's the case. I dont expect anything else other than that from CoroCoro.
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This might be handy: all known theories so far:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7292153600/h508173B0/ TBH, theory #6 is something I have considered since this new Pokémon looks like a younger Mewtwo (though that wouldn't explain why it would lose its ability to know all TM's and HM's) |
Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone think it could be Mewtwo + Mew using the DNA Splicer? Just thinking this due to the XY genetic link.
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As for how Newtwo fits in between Mew and Mewtwo, I'm kind of hoping it's a failed experiment and is its own Pokémon. If it's any sort of evolution or bridge evolution for Mewtwo and Mew, then I feel like that lessens their status as legendaries in a way. |
I am perfectly happy with this Newtwo as long as it is its own thing, and not a new form of Mewtwo. They could do a lot with this new Pokemon.
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I sincerely hope this Newtwo is legal to use in official battle facilities, depending if it's on the same ranks as Latios, Latias, Heatran, Regigigas, and Cressilia, because I would consider replacing Alakazam for this guy as my Psychic main.
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If it's a forme of Mewtwo, it may not be usable in official facilities. If it's it's own thing, it may or may not, hard to say. While Id like it to be it's own species, I'm prepared for it to just be a form.
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Well neither Mew and Mewtwo are allowed in the battle facilities so I'm guessing they'll do the same with the new clone/forme, unless if they were to give it a Slacking/Regigigas/ Archeops like ability.
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There is very little, like 0%, chance of them linking the two through evolution or even evolving either of them. With Mewtwo existing before a Pre-evo and not having the ability to breed, there isn't much chance of it being mewtwo's pre-evo. So #1 or #2 are the only possible answers. Quote:
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