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It could very well be a special Event that only occurs if you have Mewtwo/Mew leading your party, battling it. There would have to be a great story, too. Kind of like Sinjoh Ruins, if you will.
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I just think it's a new forme with maybe a new typing? I mean that'd sorta be like a new Pokemon kinda?? :(
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I see it as being Pure Psychic like the rest.
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Maybe it'll just end up being like Keldeo's Resolute form, and not change anything but appearance.
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If anything, I'm willing to bet that if you download the Unnerve Mewtwo being given away as promotion for the upcoming movie and transfer it into your copy of X or Y from B/W/B2/W2, then you can unlock and find the hidden Newtwo in the games. Or if it's a new form, then be able to have access to said form. This would be something similar to the Arceus event for DPPt > HG/SS and the Shiny Beasts Trio event for DPPt/HGSS > B/W before.
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I think that's the most likely way to get this new forme if it is a forme. I mean why else would they release it now in the Unova games when there's a much newer Mewtwo to come :(
Also, a little unrelated but I wanted to add in that I was watching the news which showed London and I was like, damn, that's totally X/Y! Or at least I saw an X/Y version in my head lool. |
If it's the hidden ability Mewtwo, than may this new forme have a different ability? Perhaps it won't keep unnerve and gain something else sort of like the Kami Radar trio when turned back to their normal formes, they have their hidden abilities.
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I feel like it should be mentioned that it is now after 8am April 10th in japan. CoroCoro leaks are expected anytime after now for the next 5 days. I doubt we're getting anything new, but hope for at least the name of Majin Mew.
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I think we'll get them around the 12th this time, but who knows. I'm hoping that they'll show the other one, or even tell us if there's another at all.
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I think the DNA Splicer will factor into NewMew. The item has to be in the new games for Kyurem to change forms, so they might as well add new pokemon to interact with the DNA Splicers.
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I dunno if they even will give us more info on NewMew, I have the feeling they will hold it back for a while.
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I hope we get more info on it and Sylveon like everyone else. Most info presented says its not very likely though. |
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I don't think they will tell anymore about NewMew until the movie comes out. They reveled this Pokemon at this time to promote the movie. They want you to see the movie to learn the name and story of NewMew.
They should just tell us Slyveon's Type already. It must be Flying... Normal... Pink TYPE? |
this image really made me tought of the possibility of the new mew being a fusion
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But once again, how does the tail migrate to the head?
I'm leaning more towards a failed experiment like Mewtwo. Forme doesn't match the tail moving. Cyclone |
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If Newtwo is some sort of new form for Mewtwo, it wouldn't be out of this world to believe that its tail moved to its head. Stranger things have definitely happened. I don't think it's an evolution for Mewtwo though, and I hope GameFreak doesn't delve further into Pokémon fusion than they already have. If anything, it's either a new form or as yourself and others believe, a standalone Pokémon who's deemed as a failed experiment; I'm rooting for the latter. |
Pokemon dosent always follow logic. Sky forme Shaymin looks vastly different than Land Shaymin, but is still the same Pokemon. I think it's still very likely that is is a new Mewtwo forme.
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Keep in mind that we're getting a new movie trailer on the 18th that's supposed to shed some light on Newtwo. Given that, there probably won't be that much on it in Corocoro, which is officially released just a couple days before that.
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Well I think many evolutions began to defy logic in the fourth generation, just take Nosepass and Probopass for example.
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Wouldn't evolutions that defy logic be a good thing? It's more creative than a full evolved form being just a bigger version of its basic/first stage evolution. *coughPoliwrathcough*
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I think is that new Pokemon can be not Mewtwo Form... But long waiting for fans MEWTHREE... Meybe they look similar. But it was idiotic idea to making a new Form for Pokemon from 1st gen in 6th generation. I think it was a Mewthree... And it take a new plot. Possible that Mewthree been weapon of Team Rocket in war with Team Plasma <Been two episodes do not aired about TR vs TP> Meybe this plot been in EXTREMESPEED GENESECT.
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I honestly dont see how it can't be a Mewtwo forme and I say it has a good chance of being just that. Although I'd like to think that it's a new Pokemon,it does look quite similar to Mewtwo, though a bit weird on how it's tail is now on it's head, I'm sure there is an explanation.
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Perhaps the eyes mean that it's become more vicious? It could be a "Red eyes- take warning" thing. |
I noticed the eyes too, actually. And what comes to mind is... Mewthree, evil or not? :(
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It's the eleventh in Japan now...we should get something by Sunday if anything as the official site typically updates around Corocoro's release.
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I severely doubt that we'd be given an actually evil Pokémon. Just seems out of character for the games as a whole honestly.
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I agree, making the pokemon evil just seems a little out of character and I doubt it will ever happen. People will always use Pokemon for evil purposes, but I can't see them putting in a Pokemon that is evil itself.
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Diamond: A Pokémon that was formed by 108 spirits. It is bound to a fissure in an Odd Keystone. Pearl: It was bound to a fissure in an Odd Keystone as punishment for misdeeds 500 years ago. Platinum: Its constant mischief and misdeeds resulted in it being bound to an Odd Keystone by a mysterious spell. HG/SS: It was formed by uniting 108 spirits. It has been bound to the Odd Keystone to keep it from doing any mischief. B/W/B2/W2: Its constant mischief and misdeeds resulted in it being bound to an Odd Keystone by a mysterious spell. Anime: Spiritomb, the Forbidden Pokémon. As punishment for misdeeds 500 years ago, Spiritomb was sealed in the fissure of an Odd Keystone It says misdeeds, but all Ghost Pokemon cause terror and play pranks. Its part of who they are, but none of them were evil. As for the Giant Pokemon from the Anime, if I remember correctly, they were sealed away because of their constant fighting that was tearing up the surrounding areas. I don't remember them being evil. They just caused strife due to their fighting. |
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There was one giant one I recall later that was real, a Claydol. I think it was seen as being evil? Cyclone |
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I thought that Vaporeon7 was talking about the explanation Koffing, Ekans, and Meowth gave about how no Pokemon is actually evil, which happened in "The Island of Giant Pokemon". They just do evil things if that's what their trainers command them to do. (While Meowth says that he is evil with or without a trainer, but... Meowth.) It's been years since I've seen that episode, but that's the gist of it.
(At least, I think that's what the "Island of the Giant Pokemon" reference is to. The other Kanto episode with giant Pokemon is The Ancient Puzzle of Pokemonopolis, and the only thing I remember about that episode is giant Jigglypuff hilarity.) Anime talk aside, a lot of the Ghost-type Pokemon are tricksters. Misdreavus scares people (for food) and I know another Ghost likes to pull on people's hair just to hear them scream. The only Ghost I could see being considered close to evil is Haunter, since its touch causes people to shiver until they die. But that's probably Haunter liking its tricks and killing people so it can have more ghost friends. I doubt that Mewthree will be evil for no reason. Though the name "Eclair form" is kind of amusing to me and makes me hungry. |
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As for the no Pokémon being evil reference, it was indeed Episode 17 where it was said in Pokémon-speak by one of the Team Rocket Pokémon. All of this goes against the evil Pokémon theory brought up. Cyclone |
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Exactly. The one sealed away was the Claydol, and even in that episode it's referred to as seeking a certain person, and ends up destroying everything. Kind of weird as I thought that Claydol evil.
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The only way I could see Mewthree being "evil" is if maybe it is a being made up of all the evil inside Mewtwo, like Buu in DBZ. I seriously doubt it, but that's the only way I see it that way.
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I see this NewMew as possibly being more vicious/destructive (like Giratina almost who is said to have been banned due to it's actions almost like Susano'O in Shinto Mythology (Susano'O is still nice though, just rebellous)) than actually evil.
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It's the 12th, so we may be getting some CoroCoro scans later tonight. I'm not expecting much other than more movie details with a new poster perhaps, and maybe some extra details on Newtwo.
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Completely forgot about CoroCoro but I'm half expecting it to just cover the recent Mewtwo forme news we've had.
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With the small amount of information CoroCoro has given us in January and February and with nothing in last month's issue, I can't really blame you for forgetting about it. Not to mention, since the recent news of Newtwo being announced from Pokémon Smash, I think people's expectations of what to expect this month are much lower.
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And even if we don't get anything this time around we still have the Trailer for the movie which promises to show Newmew on the 18th. So we should know something new around next week.
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Ah Comic, no wonder Ash's face looks more kidish looking, I was wondering why that was. Maybe it'll have the trailer info?
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I doubt it, they'll probably hold back for the trailer. I dont really expect anything of interest this month in CoroCoro, they'll probably just repeat what was revealed on Smash.
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Maybe it'll how sneak peek of the comic version that contains Mewthree?
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Corocoro has been leaked!
Not much information has been revealed, but the movie poster with Newtwo replacing Mewtwo is indeed real and is shown in the magazine. There's going to be a trailer on April 18th featuring Newtwo, so maybe some clearer information? Also not to forget, Corocoro states this is a new Mewtwo Forme, and the movie title; 'Extremespeed Genesect and the Awakening of Mewtwo' represents that forme as it is the awakening of Mewtwo. |
With that in mind, Smash is tomorrow. Could we be seeing a preview to a preview of something next week??
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Incredibly annoyed that this wasn't a separate Pokemon. Like, why does Mewtwo need to be changed? This is my first time actually being disappointed with something new in Pokemon. I was perfectly happy with the idea of it being a different Mew clone. I'll get over it, but I still wish it was it's own entity.
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Yeah, I'm also kind of disappointed in Mewthree being a Newtwo. It's getting rather tiring to have all these new forms for old Pokemon, some of which don't even need to be updated. I would have found Newtwo more appealing if it was a whole new clone, instead of just a weird change to a previous one. Hoping the trailer will start to swing my mind around to at least kind of liking this thing. It looks better than the original Mewtwo, I find.
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I agree on your later statement though. Excluding the version mascots and starters, everything we've been given since have been connected to older generations, specifically the First Gen. I'm hoping the next set of new Pokèmon we get in the months to come are more X/Y native rather than ones connected to generations past. |
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And what do I think? I think it's cool. I don't see a problem with Mewtwo getting a new Forme; after all, if we can have Tangrowth and Porygon-Z after three generations, and new Eeveelutions after five, why not continue the unfinished story of a Legendary? They are going back to their first movie and making a sequel, if you will. Sequels, of course, often don't do as well, but this is Pokémon and the most popular (I think) Pokémon in the history of the game. Even those who don't like the idea are going to be intrigued and go see the movie in Japan. And only then can people actually say what they really think. Cyclone |
Yeah, thus far everything new is focused on gen 1... I'll like some more focus on generations 2-6 related mons. And a 6 gen especially as it won't result in a 'they changed it, now it sucks' response from half of the vocal minority of the fan base...well not to the extent of changing gen 1's Pokémon.
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Generation 5 should get a lot of attention soon imo. I mean we're still part way through B2W2, so at least they could give us a few Pokemon related to gen 5 mons. :x
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As I said before in the evolution thread I'm hoping it focuses on gen 3, 4, and 5. Gen 3 has lots of single member families they can add to a la Roselia. And Gen IV didn't get any cross generational evolutions due to Gen V's no relation to old mon's rule. And Gen V due to what Forever just said. I don't want Johto to get ignored though :x
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I personally am seeing a mix of evos from previous generations but how many I dont know. I really want more to see new evolutionary families, that's what I care much more about. |
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But again, these were only vague, as in, there were such diary entries like.. "Mew gave birth. We named the newborn Mewtwo." and, "Mewtwo is far too powerful. We have failed to curb its vicious tendencies…" Things like that. |
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Maybe Johto and Kanto's legends will get more screen time to make up for their absence in B2W2 (No gen 1-2 legend was catchable in gen 5!)... I always saw Mewtwo as not a test tube clone like in the anime, but more of a life birth clone like real life clones such as Dolly the Sheep. So it having a new forme may be what it's was originally suppose to look? But became mutated after the attempts to control it, aka they locked up part of it's powers...if so than the Mewtwo we know really isn't it's true self... |
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Sometimes it happens in real life...also if this new forme is Mewtwo's original forme pre experiments perhaps it was smaller as a baby? It's possible.
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I am curious and like to read the theories of how Mewtwo goes into said form. I like the idea of it being the "pre experiment" but that would mean there would have to be two Mewtwos or else I'm not sure how Mewtwo would transition into that pre-experiment form. Unless they give it something that does away with all the experiments they did, which is highly unlikely. Maybe they do more experiments on Mewtwo... ? Also, yeah, I feel like they're trying to connect with older fans in a way or fans that just like Mewtwo, but as a person that likes Mewtwo this new form... isn't really growing on me. We'll see... |
All I can think of for Mewtwo changing into its new form it has something to do with altering it DNA (but not like Deoxys).
And how would you react to this idea I just thought of: We know that Generations IV & V game had forms exclusive to versions after the launch versions of same said Generations (Rotom, Giratina, & Shaymin in Gen IV and the Kami trio & Kyurem in Gen V). What if they did exclusive Pokémon available only in a Generation VI version after X&Y? |
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Perhaps this new forme is a manifestation of it's psychic powers? Idk something like that.
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We're half a year away from the games, what else do you guys think we'll see? Do you think the region will be clouded in mystery like most things announced about X and Y?
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Speculation on X and Y: The region is shaped like a giant XY combo. Or, the roads could connect into an XY shape criss-crossing the region.
The DNA Splicers could be used on Bidoof. He could because dual-typed Normal + X with all 17 types. Rotom will suddenly make sense. (just having a joke making!) |
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A region image would be nice, but the reason they cloud part of it is because it's beta, and not final. I don't see why they would just intentionally cloud part of the region; after all, the minimap doesn't say anything, and they could easily paste together two shots to remove any cursor, giving away nothing but the look of the area. Granted, we could pinpoint the starting location and starting path then, they may not want that or they might just show that. Route 3 will be part of it, I'd bet. Cyclone |
I'd be satisfied just knowing the region's name at this point to be honest. Although, I'm pretty that'll come when they finally show the map. So in other words, I also can't wait for them to reveal the map. That usually brings in quite the speculation as people dissect it. Which is my personal favorite part in speculating a new generation, dissecting the map.
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Region's name would be nice or something about the Gym Leaders because that's who I'm most curious about but they won't reveal those until closer to the release. I do like when they reveal the map, it always looks so nice and all the theories that surround it make it that much more awesome. I think my favorite part is dissecting the Gym Leaders. Dunno why, but I love it. |
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I'm also looking forward to seeing the new Gym Leaders and what types they'll cover. I'm not expecting that until the last few months though. The region is usually something that is revealed earlier. I can't remember correctly, but I think by this time we had already seen Castelia City when Black and White were coming out. I could be wrong though, it might have been later.
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I don't believe we've learned about most of the gym leaders if any until after BW were out in Japan...we speculated on the possible buildings though, such as Brycen's.
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A lot will depend on where the region is relative to the others. If we find out it's near, say, Hoenn, it increases the chances of a cameo from someone of that region. I do think it's likely that we see some past characters, though. It's been incorporated in past games. |
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I always liked Wally and if they're going to bring anybody back from the past I hope it's somebody from the Hoenn region. Also Pokemon XY is apparentely long enough after the other games (except maybe BW) that anybody we met previously who wasn't so tough could have become majorly more tough in that time. It would be interesting to see. |
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