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Z25 April 21st, 2013 1:48 PM

If i remember the rumors correctly they both are about even so it could be either. I am really hoping for a fairy type though.

Sabrewulf238 April 21st, 2013 2:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7634439)
Which one proved more reliable in other words who has a better record?

I don't trust either of them, but that may just be my own bias talking.

It's possible that both of them are legit and one of their sources was misinformed.

I think I'm more inclined to believe the Fairy type guy (pokexperto) because I'm more familiar with him and his leakage of all those 5th gen pokemon.

That said I'm pretty confused about the whole thing....

Shiny Celebi April 21st, 2013 2:09 PM

This guy does have some credibilty due to leaking the BW Pokedex, I still would treat it as a rumor, but it is a very believable one at that. I see Fairy being a likely new type, and there are many Pokemon that fit into it, and could be retconned to have that type. Yveltal being Dark/Flying I would believe as it seems to have that look about it. Not saying it's real, but believable. I dont know why a guy who has posted a lot of real info would just make something like this up, but we'll see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 21st, 2013 2:29 PM

Maybe they're his own speculation? Often times we tend to make our opinion sound like facts on here...so maybe they're doing that in this case.

Pinkie-Dawn April 21st, 2013 3:39 PM

Looks like even MNN has gotten the info about the Fairy type rumor: http://mynintendonews.com/2013/04/22/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y-to-introduce-fairy-type-pokemon/

It also says that Clefairy, and maybe Togetic, will gain the new type.

BraveNewWorld April 21st, 2013 4:26 PM

I really hope the Fairy Type rumor doesn't come to fruition. It sounds silly.

Cyclone April 21st, 2013 5:34 PM

Today? I guess we'll find out in about 12 hours or so.

Personally, I don't see Gamefreak retyping existing Pokémon. Though the Normal type is the one being replaced in a case like Clefairy, it sets it to have certain new weaknesses, even if it's no longer weak to Fighting, and completely changes how that Pokémon is used. Making it Normal/Fairy might make sense, however.

With all that said, they won't retype Clefairy. It is already a complete family. Leave it alone.

Cyclone

Xander Olivieri April 21st, 2013 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7634631)
Looks like even MNN has gotten the info about the Fairy type rumor: http://mynintendonews.com/2013/04/22/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y-to-introduce-fairy-type-pokemon/

It also says that Clefairy, and maybe Togetic, will gain the new type.

MNN also posted Mr. XY's rumors didn't it? I remember some big web magazine did. Basically if its big enough rumor they kinda have to take a risk and post it. Especially if they are desperate for news to post.

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7634829)
Clefairy...it's hard to say on whether or not it'll be re-typed, because something like this has never really been done before. When Dark/Steel was released, the only Pokemon that really got re-typed during that time period was Magneton (add in others if I'm missing anything). So it's a possibility that past Pokemon could very well be re-typed, but how big that is that possibility is unknown.

Gen 2 had a lot of retypes, though not just for new Pokemon. Attacks got retyped as well, though really I also don't believe that they "have" to retype anything if they add in a new type. It makes enough sense not to what with it completely changing the meta game by adding new weaknesses to Pokemon.

Cyclone April 21st, 2013 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7634829)
Clefairy...it's hard to say on whether or not it'll be re-typed, because something like this has never really been done before. When Dark/Steel was released, the only Pokemon that really got re-typed during that time period was Magneton (add in others if I'm missing anything). So it's a possibility that past Pokemon could very well be re-typed, but how big that is that possibility is unknown.

Thanks for the pointer on that!

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Originally Posted by Bulbapedia
Magneton, along with its pre-evolution Magnemite, were pure Electric-type Pokémon in Generation I, but became dual type Electric/Steel in Generation II, since the Steel type did not exist when they debuted. Due to this type change, Magneton is the second Steel-type Pokémon in National Pokédex order (after Magnemite), but it was unable to learn any Steel-type moves until Generation III (and even then, it could only learn Metal Sound).

So both stages got the Steel type, not just one. However, this DOES give credence to a new type; Clefairy, for instance, could be Normal/Fairy. What was the other? Togetic? No. It's already Normal/Flying. If they were to give it "Fairy" typing, they would literally be changing one of the other two types. Unless tri-typing is a new feature.

Cyclone

Vapie April 21st, 2013 6:41 PM

Wow.. You know, out of all the types mentioned for Sylveon, fairy makes the most sense to me. I would actually perfectly okay with this. At least Sylveon looks kind of fairy like, unlike the other rumored types it could be. They could definitely pull this off. I'm actually hoping it's true.

BraveNewWorld April 21st, 2013 6:55 PM

There's the Fairy Egg Group
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fairy_%28Egg_Group%29

If Fairy is a new type then those in the egg group are the likely candidates to receive the new typing.

Xander Olivieri April 21st, 2013 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7634935)
If this Fairy type were to be introduced, I imagine it being a mix of Psychic and Dragon, since (I'm guessing Xander would correct me on this. xD), Dragons/Fairies are both mythical, to some sort of extent? I imagine them also have strong telepathic abilities, at least to the extent that they could pull off what Sylveon pulled off in the movie trailer.

Nothing to really correct >> They both are Mythical as they only exist in myths and legends.

I don't agree with Retyping though. There's no need to retype especially since that ruins Metagame more than just adding in a new type. They can always just do like they do with Bug and Dragon Egg Groups. Those in the egg groups don't have to be that type. There are 4 Bugs that aren't Bug typed and 16 dragons aren't Dragon typed. Also Snubbull retyped as a Fairy is scary. Granbull as Fairy is even worse.

Pinkie-Dawn April 21st, 2013 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7634878)
MNN also posted Mr. XY's rumors didn't it? I remember some big web magazine did. Basically if its big enough rumor they kinda have to take a risk and post it. Especially if they are desperate for news to post.

Yes, but unlike XY, this rumor is from the same guy who leaked the whole Gen V roster, so there's a possibility that it could be true.

Xander Olivieri April 21st, 2013 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7634965)
Yes, but unlike XY, this rumor is from the same guy who leaked the whole Gen V roster, so there's a possibility that it could be true.

Some people said its not the same guy. The one that leaked the Gen 5 roster had the game then too. I doubt he has the game now.

It all still conflicts with the Mewtwo leak guy since he said that Sylveon is Flying type.

Though...apparently if nothing appears in the next few hours to 11 hours I guess its false? The leaker said the info would come out today. Some said it was for the Japanese site which would be in 11 hours seeing as its just 1pm for them. If he meant today today, seeing as this rumor was posted earlier...according to Pokejungle there are some posts that are from 12 hours ago, so he has only 2 to 4 hours left to go.

Cyclone April 21st, 2013 7:29 PM

He's looking for attention, basically. He must be bored.

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Originally Posted by BraveNewWorld (Post 7634957)
There's the Fairy Egg Group
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fairy_%28Egg_Group%29

If Fairy is a new type then those in the egg group are the likely candidates to receive the new typing.

I'm sorry, I don't see Pikachu being a Fairy.

Cyclone

Xander Olivieri April 21st, 2013 9:54 PM

Just had a small discussion about what Fairy could be strong/weak against.

Poison came up due to warranted belief that it needs a boost. Though based on old stories and the old ambiguous meaning and grouping for Fairy, it didn't really make sense...I started looking through some old info I had as well as various sites and remembered about Cold Iron. Iron was used to ward on Spirits, Fairies, Witches and other Malevolent Supernatural beings.

If they follow this Steel should be SE and resist Fairy type

Just to kinda play off, what do you think Fairy would be Super Effective against, be weak to, immune to or resist?

Haza April 21st, 2013 11:08 PM

Praying that "Fairy" translates to "Light"... if it's even true.

Aslan April 22nd, 2013 12:04 AM

Personally I'd say the 'Fairy' type is strong against Dark. If Fairy translates to 'light', like the above poster said then the concept does make sense in a way. In books generally or it's well-known that light overcomes dark. Dark being super effective against Fairy could also work but I would like to see something like this. I can't think of what it could possibly be immune to though so I'll figure that one out later. n_n

SolarAbusoru April 22nd, 2013 12:29 AM

I don't believe it one bit, there is no need for a new type, and Fairy just sounds unnecessary, Just wait til Pokemon.com reveals info themselves.

Guy April 22nd, 2013 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7635274)
I don't believe it one bit, there is no need for a new type, and Fairy just sounds unnecessary, Just wait til Pokemon.com reveals info themselves.

It's just a bit of fun speculation. No one is saying it's set in stone or anything. Whether it ends up true or not, only time will tell.

I for one, while I don't think we need a new type, wouldn't mind something as mythical as a Fairy-type. It's certainly better than the overrated Light type anyway, which is speculated on every time a new generation comes knocking. Besides, if they can incorporate a new type and keep the balance, it could be a nice shake up for the meta-game.

vaporeon7 April 22nd, 2013 3:19 AM

I really doubt that we will get a fairy type. Sylveon looks like a flying type.
I also think this looks a bit like a wing.

blue April 22nd, 2013 3:42 AM

I would be pretty okay with a fairy type being introduced, it would really make that much of a major impact on gameplay and it would be a unique addition to the current type chart.

gotron228 April 22nd, 2013 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7635361)
I really doubt that we will get a fairy type. Sylveon looks like a flying type.
I also think this looks a bit like a wing.

Fairies generally have wings.

vaporeon7 April 22nd, 2013 4:49 AM

I just realised that it is the same shape as Sylveon's ears.

Navy Blue April 22nd, 2013 5:28 AM

Fairy type would be neat..
Sylveon really fits, but I'm still all ears for something official to be released to I can chew at it like a termite! > : D

vaporeon7 April 22nd, 2013 5:33 AM

Pokémon is almost 20 years old, it feels too late to add a new type in my opinion.

Pinkie-Dawn April 22nd, 2013 5:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7635188)
Just had a small discussion about what Fairy could be strong/weak against.

Poison came up due to warranted belief that it needs a boost. Though based on old stories and the old ambiguous meaning and grouping for Fairy, it didn't really make sense...I started looking through some old info I had as well as various sites and remembered about Cold Iron. Iron was used to ward on Spirits, Fairies, Witches and other Malevolent Supernatural beings.

If they follow this Steel should be SE and resist Fairy type

Just to kinda play off, what do you think Fairy would be Super Effective against, be weak to, immune to or resist?

Super Effective Against: Fighting, Dragon (unless we go under Fairly Odd Parents logic on Dragons being impervious to magic)

Weak to: Dark, Steel, Electric

Resistant to: Fairy, Fighting, Psychic

Types Who Resist It: Fairy, Steel, Psychic

Xander Olivieri April 22nd, 2013 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Narnia (Post 7635263)
Personally I'd say the 'Fairy' type is strong against Dark. If Fairy translates to 'light', like the above poster said then the concept does make sense in a way. In books generally or it's well-known that light overcomes dark. Dark being super effective against Fairy could also work but I would like to see something like this. I can't think of what it could possibly be immune to though so I'll figure that one out later. n_n

In most books where Light overcomes the Darkness, Darkness is also overpowering light to the point that is is almost snuffed out. Light overcoming Darkness is a metaphor more than half the time meaning no matter how hard or dire a situation is, it can always be overcome with perseverance and will. Light doesn't simply go out it still exists so it can eventually become stronger. Though in the same books Darkness devours light. As in the darkness consumes the will of those and makes them weaker.

So even with the two most common relations Light is strong against Dark and weak against dark while Dark can be immune to light.

Guy April 22nd, 2013 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7635461)
Pokémon is almost 20 years old, it feels too late to add a new type in my opinion.

If the timeline of X/Y takes place after B2W2, then they can easily introduce a new type as a new discovery.

RandomDSdevel April 22nd, 2013 9:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BraveNewWorld (Post 7628848)
One thing that I'd like to see is a skippable tutorial/intro. Just give me my starter Pokemon, five Pokeballs, and Pokedex and let me start playing.

Either that or a tutorial which would lead you into figuring things out on your own would be cool by me, I guess.

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7629469)
They don't have to change any previous Pokemon if a new type is introduced. It can be new Pokemon onward only.

I thought it was a room move too but it doesn't really match any.

GameFreak has changed certain Pokémon's typings before, even if that was just changing the Magnemite/-ton/-zone evolution family's typing from pure Electric to a mix of Electric and Steel. It has also changed move animations between generations, too, if I remember correctly.

blue April 22nd, 2013 10:01 AM

I would still use the tutorial on the first play of any new generation game, idk why but it's a must have for me even if I do know how to play.

Jake♫ April 22nd, 2013 10:08 AM

There will always be some sort of loophole where it would totally possible to introduce a new typing into the games, but that doesn't mean that they have to/should. We really have no idea what's going on in the heads of Game Freak/Nintendo, and the Fairy-type rumor is just that: a rumor. It could be possible, but I really hope not =x

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 22nd, 2013 7:04 PM

Fairfolk type? That's an alternate name for fairies as they were easily offended if one called them fairies, so the legends I've read say. Maybe it could be called Magic type or something along those lines as Fairies are magical.

Navy Blue April 22nd, 2013 7:22 PM

Yeah, Magic would fit better than Fairy as it is an element(-ish).
Imagine, Sylveon, Magic type :D

Altairis April 22nd, 2013 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7634935)
If this Fairy type were to be introduced, I imagine it being a mix of Psychic and Dragon, since (I'm guessing Xander would correct me on this. xD), Dragons/Fairies are both mythical, to some sort of extent? I imagine them also have strong telepathic abilities, at least to the extent that they could pull off what Sylveon pulled off in the movie trailer.

That's what I would think. I would actually totally be okay with it if it was another Dragonlike type. except I would probably think of Fairy Tail everytime I saw the word Fairy in Pokemon.

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7634963)
I don't agree with Retyping though. There's no need to retype especially since that ruins Metagame more than just adding in a new type.

I don't think retyping would "ruin" the metagame because with each new generation, metagames get entirely reconstructed. They don't just keep the same tiers and change around a few Pokemon, since there are new abilities, attacks, kinds of Pokemon, the entire thing shifts. Weather wasn't used as much until Politoed and Ninetales got their DW abilities, and for a while OU entirely revolved around weather. (I don't seriously OU as much anymore but there was definitely a time of only weather back on PO) As such, non-weather benefitters don't get used as much and the metagame shifts. So there really isn't a reason not to do something because of the metagame. n_n (ALSO I WAS ASSUMING YOU MEANT COMPETITIVE? SORRY)

Xander Olivieri April 22nd, 2013 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lapras* (Post 7636358)
That's what I would think. I would actually totally be okay with it if it was another Dragonlike type. except I would probably think of Fairy Tail everytime I saw the word Fairy in Pokemon.



I don't think retyping would "ruin" the metagame because with each new generation, metagames get entirely reconstructed. They don't just keep the same tiers and change around a few Pokemon, since there are new abilities, attacks, kinds of Pokemon, the entire thing shifts. Weather wasn't used as much until Politoed and Ninetales got their DW abilities, and for a while OU entirely revolved around weather. (I don't seriously OU as much anymore but there was definitely a time of only weather back on PO) As such, non-weather benefitters don't get used as much and the metagame shifts. So there really isn't a reason not to do something because of the metagame. n_n (ALSO I WAS ASSUMING YOU MEANT COMPETITIVE? SORRY)


Metagame is only competitive gaming. And what I mean, We have set Pokemon already. They get retyped and take a huge hit thanks to the new types by doubling their weaknesses and barely increasing any strengths.

Look at Fairy for example. Blissey line if to get Fairy can take a huge hit as their only weakness is Fighting. Fairy is say weak to Steel and...Dark for argument sake, now Blissey is weak to 2 common types. Blissey was used to wall thing with her bulky HP but now has 3 weaknesses. Say they add Rock. She is also now weak to Steath Rock which cripples her effectiveness.

Some other new type idea: They release a Magic type. Say its strong against Ghost. Ghost Pokemon that weren't that used are now used less.

While the chances to increase more pokemon's potential it messes with just as many if not more by hindering them further. Rebalancing the type chart isn't really the major issue. Pokemon that have existed for 5 generations are at risk of potentially huge crippling factors. Imagine Gardevoir getting Fairy typed and it being weak to Dark. She now has a x4 weakness to dark types which really hurts her.

Clefairy's line isn't that used though she's an ok pokemon with Gen 4 and 5 updates. She gains new weaknesses which prevent her use even more. The entire tier list would shift when introducing a new type. That is an apparent given and what most Metagaming members fear the most...which is why so many are against adding more types. It ruins what they've mastered already and they'd have to completely rework teams.

I'm not against adding new types. There is just a lot of hurt that is going to come in. It would be both a blessing and a curse as it resets the competitive field for a short time much like Gen 5 did when all the tournaments were only allowing Gen 5 Pokemon. It would probably take longer for them to balance out teams with new types added in than just new Pokemon, but that still remains that during that time the Metagame would have been destroyed and would have to be rebuilt from the ground up.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 22nd, 2013 9:55 PM

You've got a point there, it would be a big change given how big the metagame has become since the last time they've added types. Gen 2 could get away with it, but I'm not so sure gen 6 can.

Xander Olivieri April 22nd, 2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636490)
Honestly though...can the metagame actually get any worse than it is now? Be honest with yourself. I mean, not a lot of people are fans of B/W or what BW2 had to offer in terms of competitive, and if anything, starting over completely fresh would be welcome in some's minds. Heck, I'd go as far as to say that 4th gen's metagame was the superior one over 5th gen, as there was a lot that 5th gen pretty much ruined. OU is now a boring mix of toed/tar/ninetails/insert scizor/latios/dragon counter here, and that's really all you're going to see 9 times out of 10. What else is there? OU is lacking in variety, and what it lacks, the more underused tiers make up for it (such as UU/NU or even RU, for example).

In my honest opinion, I feel that introducing a new type would most likely freshen things up a bit more than anything else. Would it still carry consequence? Of course! But with what we've got now, are we really losing anything significant? Not really.

We're losing everything that we currently have. That's highly significant. Other than the nostolgia rage, this is the biggest reason new types aren't wanted by people.

Gen 5 changed some aspects of the Meta. Saying it didn't and saying Gen 5 ruined Meta are two contradicting statements. Gen 5 removed the OP'd set ups and then re-balanced some of the Pokemon with new abilities that lowered their use or upped their use. The balances were small enough that there weren't huge shifts.

While I don't not want a new type, I'd be inclined to agree with the metagame whines about how bad a new type would completely ruin the current set up. Sure Rain teams will redominate the battle unless Gen 6 restructures Weather effects to increase the ones that lack or debuff the current headers so that non weather teams have more chances.

Kinda hoping they introduce more Weather killers like they ended up doing with Psyduck. Maybe even more items that kill weather effects or abilities. There's more they can do to re-balance the metagame without introducing new types. They'd be smaller updates and the shifts would be smaller rather than throwing everything we have now into the trash and starting from scratch which is actually a lot harder. Someone new has a better chance as they don't have all the old stuff programmed into them. Older ones will try to use the old combos and teams only to get upset that their time was wasted since the new stuff completely ruined what they had been doing for a while.

Completely shifting is ruining until everything is rebuilt.

Xander Olivieri April 22nd, 2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636520)
Better to just rage about the new type and get over it than rage about how Venusaur and Volcarona are sweeping people's teams left and right in Sun, and how Tentacruel/Toxicroak/Polioed/Jolt are the pokes you're most likely going to see in rain, and that Hippo/Tar/Gliscor/Chomp/Jirachi/Skarmory are going to be the Pokemon you're going to see most in sand.

The general point is...the metagame, at this point, is just boring and extremely repetitive. Back in 4th gen, the only weather you really had to worry about was sand and that was because of the introduction of Gliscor and as well as (iirc) T-tar's 50% sanstorm boost to it's spdef, as well as Hippowdon. Rain was only a concern because of Starmie (who was like, a top tier threat iirc), but aside from that, I feel that a lot more strategy was used back in 4th gen competitive, because you won't have to worry about your opponent spamming weather anymore, really.

And it's not so much about introducing Weather killers anymore (though that would help, believe me). It's just introducing Pokemon with more variety. That's what the metagame is lacking. More diverse typing, more diverse abilities, more substance. Something to make OU less weather-based and actually centered around building a decent team and preparing for x threats and figuring out how to deal with it, kind of like how it was in Gen 4, what with most team's biggest threat at that point was prob LO (or Sash) Weavile.

As long as this generation introduces variety, I'm happy.

I don't find current set up boring or repetitive, neither do some current Metagame fans. Even Gen 6's Metagame will get old as soon as its set in stone. Gen 4 was stale until Gen 5 changed things around. Gen 3 was stale until Gen 4 changed things around. Its going to be a repeating cycle until the end of days for Pokemon. Better balancing is better than introducing something new and completely destroying only to have everything fall back to where it was before. After a few months it will always be boring and repetitive as the same teams will always be on top.

Gen 6 can offer way better updates than a new type especially since we don't know if we are only getting 1 new type or not. If one is on its way, what's to say there aren't 2 or 3 new types?

Also according to MNN Togetic gets type change...either Normal or Flying is getting removed if true. If flying is removed then Togetic and Togekiss no longer fear Stealth Rock or any of the common threats. It has potential to become a seriously dangerous Pokemon in Meta since it can abuse Serene Grace very well.

While it seems like a good thing, everyone running it will pretty much be trying to Crit Hax their opponent. Some odder rivalries will appear but many Pokemon that aren't up to taking a Serene Grace Hacked Crit/Status will have severe tier drops. If Fairy replaces Normal, there is a lot of unforseen things that can happen to increase Togekiss' weaknesses more than as a Normal type. If this is the scenario then Togekiss gets ruined due to retyping.

Look at all the people that were butthurt about the Rotom "fix" in B/W. Eventually some accepted it for Type walling, but all of the Rotoms had lost their core strategy which hurt it pretty badly until other ways to use it popped up.

ilias_ April 22nd, 2013 10:57 PM

I couldn't read all the posts but I want to say that I am not against adding a new type. It is going to be interesting, in my opinion.
I will be sad, if they don't create good Dragon types tho. :( Can't wait for the game!

Ho-Oh April 23rd, 2013 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636349)
If that is a new-type, then I really can't wait to see the kinds of Magic-types we'll have. n___n;; And then there'll be a Magic-type Gym leader, and E4, and the list goes on~!

...It's kind of strange now, how I've shifted from being on the fence about new types to now being kind of for it. :x

idk which post to quote so I am quoting this one!!

Anyway I think Magic is way too close to Psychic, given that they'd both do the same sort of things.

vaporeon7 April 23rd, 2013 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7636643)
idk which post to quote so I am quoting this one!!

Anyway I think Magic is way too close to Psychic, given that they'd both do the same sort of things.

I have to agree, I've always thought Pokémon with magical powers like Mr. Mime, have just been Psychic types.

Navy Blue April 23rd, 2013 5:14 AM

Yes. Variety. I love it.
For Pokemon, of course I'd start over. I don't want to be left behind, so I will adapt to changes eventually; and plus, I do like the idea of strategy (sorta bored of killing every one of them with my starter(Serperior)).

Pinkie-Dawn April 23rd, 2013 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636520)
Better to just rage about the new type and get over it than rage about how Venusaur and Volcarona are sweeping people's teams left and right in Sun, and how Tentacruel/Toxicroak/Polioed/Jolt are the pokes you're most likely going to see in rain, and that Hippo/Tar/Gliscor/Chomp/Jirachi/Skarmory are going to be the Pokemon you're going to see most in sand.

The general point is...the metagame, at this point, is just boring and extremely repetitive. Back in 4th gen, the only weather you really had to worry about was sand and that was because of the introduction of Gliscor and as well as (iirc) T-tar's 50% sanstorm boost to it's spdef, as well as Hippowdon. Rain was only a concern because of Starmie (who was like, a top tier threat iirc), but aside from that, I feel that a lot more strategy was used back in 4th gen competitive, because you won't have to worry about your opponent spamming weather anymore, really.

And it's not so much about introducing Weather killers anymore (though that would help, believe me). It's just introducing Pokemon with more variety. That's what the metagame is lacking. More diverse typing, more diverse abilities, more substance. Something to make OU less weather-based and actually centered around building a decent team and preparing for x threats and figuring out how to deal with it, kind of like how it was in Gen 4, what with most team's biggest threat at that point was prob LO (or Sash) Weavile.

As long as this generation introduces variety, I'm happy.

The only variety I'm looking for in XY is more Pokemon in OU, so there will be less in the lower tiers. That way, a lot of low-tier Pokemon won't have their hearts broken for not being used by players who think they're weak/useless/inferior to Pokemon in OU. These Pokemon want to fight against the big boys.

I wouldn't call Gen IV's metagame as the best, because of the complete dominance of Stealth Rock, which has hindered a lot of Fire, Ice, Bug, and Flying types, and it allowed Dragon types to wreck the metagame with physical Outrage, leading to the dominance of Water, Fighting, Ground, and Steel types to counter each other and resist Stealth Rock. There was also physical Dark moves like Pursuit that greatly hindered Psychic types.

blue April 23rd, 2013 6:03 AM

Even though it's only fan art, if the Boxart for X & Y were to look anything like this, I'd be happy.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/936433_530283253689503_307268160_n.png

vaporeon7 April 23rd, 2013 6:05 AM

I would like box art like that. I'm expecting 3D box art though.

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 7:34 AM

I went back a few pages and didn't see this posted anywhere, so here's a tweet from Pokémon:



Please don't be a new type >.<

blue April 23rd, 2013 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7636914)
I went back a few pages and didn't see this posted anywhere, so here's a tweet from Pokémon:



Please don't be a new type >.<

They did a similar Tweet prior to the eeveelution announcement, this is looking more plausible by the days.

SolarAbusoru April 23rd, 2013 7:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7636914)
I went back a few pages and didn't see this posted anywhere, so here's a tweet from Pokémon:



Please don't be a new type >.<

Uhhh that tweet is kinda fake, first off, I am looking at Pokémon's twitter at this moment and they never made a tweet on the 22nd, 2nd, the twitter font is arial, that picture there is Times New Roman.

SolarAbusoru April 23rd, 2013 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636940)
Oh dear.

Surprised they actually included Clefairy.

Well, let's go through the list here:

Clefairy:
  • Is a Pokemon (duh)
  • Fairy-like (another duh)
  • Normal-typed
  • Wondering why they didn't mention Clefable since it's more fairy-like but I guess.
  • Is one type

Sylveon
  • Is a Pokemon
  • Fairy-like
  • MIGHT be Normal-typed
  • Chances are pretty likely it's singular-typed.

Xerneas
  • Is a Pokemon
  • It....isn't really Fairy-like, ish?
  • Could possibly be singular typed, though I can't imagine it being Normal, but it's a possibility!
  • Legendary Pokemon

Also, the reason why I said "Is a pokemon" is just in case Pokemon wanted to do something cheesy like "they're all pokemon!!! hahahahah" or something like that just to troll and piss people off (though I feel that's kind of unlikely).

So yeah, maybe I'm just not seeing some pattern of consistency here other than the fact that Xerneas might be just one-type, since Sylveon and Clefairy are?

That Tweet is fake, it's the wrong font and if you actually visit Pokémon's twitter, you'll see this tweet does NOT exist.

Cyclone April 23rd, 2013 8:13 AM

Nothing like a fake tweet to cause confusion. I could easily create a fake tweet myself saying "Sylveon confirmed Bug-type" and there would be wild panic when I post the image because some people don't think, check the official account first; they haven't tweeted anything of that nature, obviously.

And no, I'm not making a fake tweet.

Cyclone

Shiny Celebi April 23rd, 2013 8:19 AM

I do think a new type is possible and I would welcome it. I personally care nothing for the metagame, it isn't about that for me, it's about adding something interesting to the games, a new type would do just that, mix things up. I like the idea of a Fairy type honestly, or any other interesting ideas they come up with. A new type also means more concepts to explore when creating Pokemon, and I'd look forward to seeing what the new type would include Pokemon wise.

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 8:32 AM

Thank the lord that tweet is fake, as I was freaking out (as Derk can attest to =P). Still, I REALLY don't want a new type.

Cyclone April 23rd, 2013 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7636976)
Except you would have to be a credible person (i.e, someone working for Gamefreak/Nintendo/or an affiliate of those two) for people to actually believe you and start flipping out. Otherwise, they probably wouldn't worry about it too much. :P

Did I neglect to mention I would be able to merge the @Pokemon layout with the actual text by using Paint to copy the text over top of the layout? I can demonstrate this if you don't follow what I'm saying.

Cyclone

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 10:28 AM

I'm hoping the starter town is in a different climate than it usually is, maybe it could be in the desert...that'll be something new and unique compared to the past six hometowns.

RandomDSdevel April 23rd, 2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7636821)
I would like box art like that. I'm expecting 3D box art though.

You mean that you want the X/Y box-art to feature something like the holographic imagery used in the bonus pages from the last two Collector's Edition guides? Now, that would be [I]quite[/I[ awesome!

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 10:54 AM

Agreeing with a different climate for the starting town. I mean, it sort of makes sense having a neutral area for the three starters, but then again their all manually brought there anyways so that doesn't really matter anyways. But yeah, it'd just be interesting to have a player start near a volcano or in a desert as suggested!

RandomDSdevel April 23rd, 2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7637149)
Agreeing with this, though I can definitely see why they chose more or less of a neutral climate to start off. Though I'd prefer it if your main character would start off in more of a snowy climate, but that's just me. :P

Were't there some patches of snow in Pokémon Platinum Version's Twinleaf Town that replaced the puddles that had been there in Diamond and Pearl? I wouldn't mind seeing more of that white stuff near the beginning of the game…

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7637153)
Agreeing with a different climate for the starting town. I mean, it sort of makes sense having a neutral area for the three starters, but then again their all manually brought there anyways so that doesn't really matter anyways. But yeah, it'd just be interesting to have a player start near a volcano or in a desert as suggested!

I was thinking of desert when I typed that. Last night I had a dream in which the starter town was in a desert, it looked cool (Uxie was also there but that's beside the point). Maybe the observatory we saw in the trailer can be near the players house?

RandomDSdevel April 23rd, 2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7637165)
I was thinking of desert when I typed that. Last night I had a dream in which the starter town was in a desert, it looked cool (Uxie was also there but that's beside the point). Maybe the observatory we saw in the trailer can be near the players house?

How do you know that's an observatory? I thought it looked similar to Pokémon Colcsseum's Realgam Tower, so maybe that structure could somehow contain the region's Battle Tower that the third version or sequel pair usually turns into a Battle Frontier? But then again, Generation V just had the Battle Subway…

Liberal Army April 23rd, 2013 11:08 AM

When I watched GCPM11's X & Y Countdown today he showed us a full list of the Pokémon of Gen. VI. He didn't mention a source and I believe it is fake. Names are so hnrealistic and there are over 17 Legendaries. That's just ridiculous. I try to find the list on tge internet to post it here.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomDSdevel (Post 7637168)
How do you know that's an observatory? I thought it looked similar to Pokémon Colcsseum's Realgam Tower, so maybe that structure could somehow contain the region's Battle Tower that the third version or sequel pair usually turns into a Battle Frontier? But then again, Generation V just had the Battle Subway…

I was referring to it's real life counterpart, which is an observatory I believe. Who knows at this point what it may be...

A list...is that list the fake one we got awhile ago? 17 legendaries...I certainly hope the real list doesn't have that many...

C.Harlow April 23rd, 2013 12:25 PM

To be honest with you .. i dont look very excited about the new Pokémon game Y and X.. I mean.. theyve put it 3D .. and .. i dunno why i dont like it at all .. its like if it removes all the fun and "view" on all the previous Pokémon games .. =p

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 12:43 PM

Speaking of April, we only have a week left of this month! 23 days until the official release of Corocoro's next issue...maybe Pokémon Smash or the official site will have release something early like Smash did this time around.

Shiny Celebi April 23rd, 2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendhunter14 (Post 7637170)
When I watched GCPM11's X & Y Countdown today he showed us a full list of the Pokémon of Gen. VI. He didn't mention a source and I believe it is fake. Names are so hnrealistic and there are over 17 Legendaries. That's just ridiculous. I try to find the list on tge internet to post it here.

I would not believe anybody that releases a full Pokedex at this point. Mr XY did the same thing and we all know that was fake.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 1:03 PM

Do you guys think these games will have lots of news in the long run? I looked back at Serebii's pre release new Pokémon page for Generation V and a lot of the Pokémon were released shortly after, like there's two or more per month after the games announcement in May. Or perhaps GF and Nintendo just unveiled XY a little too early...and that explains why the info is stretched though a longer period of time as it's not that much.

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 1:08 PM

I'd be happy with even one thing announced each month. March was disappointing because we got absolutely nothing, January and February we got a lot, and this month we got news of the new Mewtwo form. I'd be happy just to settle with one tidbit of information a month, along with hints of stuff to come.

Vapie April 23rd, 2013 1:42 PM

The less info I have, the less I anticipate it, the faster it will be here. That could be good, but I prefer to be excited and build that anxious feeling :) I would like to have a little info a month at least. I don't want the games completely spelled out for me and ruined, but I want something!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 2:03 PM

You've got a point there, time seems to be going faster now than with BW, B2W2 and other games I've had considerable info on that I wanted.

Xander Olivieri April 23rd, 2013 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendhunter14 (Post 7637170)
When I watched GCPM11's X & Y Countdown today he showed us a full list of the Pokémon of Gen. VI. He didn't mention a source and I believe it is fake. Names are so hnrealistic and there are over 17 Legendaries. That's just ridiculous. I try to find the list on tge internet to post it here.

Can you link it? They may be fake, but still fun to look at.

blue April 23rd, 2013 2:44 PM

I don't think we'll have much news, if any in May.. we just had the Mewtwo announcement this month and they seem to be keeping quiet about these games. I'd bank on the summer months when more details will start to flow, even more so closer to the release date in October.

Pinkie-Dawn April 23rd, 2013 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapie (Post 7637359)
The less info I have, the less I anticipate it, the faster it will be here. That could be good, but I prefer to be excited and build that anxious feeling :) I would like to have a little info a month at least. I don't want the games completely spelled out for me and ruined, but I want something!

But then there will be people who complained about more info on XY before they get the game, because they think one trailer and nothing else to reveal is enough to build so much happen, at least according to a popular youtube ranter when he made a negative review on Brawl for not being the game he wants it to be and for being spoiled by the info before the game's release, making him less hyped.

Cyclone April 23rd, 2013 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi (Post 7637279)
I would not believe anybody that releases a full Pokedex at this point. Mr XY did the same thing and we all know that was fake.

It was the release of his Pokédex for his latest hack, "Pokémon Gotcha".

Cyclone

(Yes, I was going for the sarcastic joke here.)

blue April 23rd, 2013 3:01 PM

I wonder if Pokemon X & Y sales can pick up the slack from the slump in Wii U Sales? According to Bloomberg, Nintendo are having financial issues.
http://www.examiner.com/article/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y-publisher-suffering-from-financial-issues

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7637439)
Well, with May being the first summer month (more or less? At least, I consider it a summer month), it carries a probability of CoroCoro/Pokemon Smash releasing something quite interesting, though of course there's no guarantees. Though like Jake said, I'd be happy with just about any bit of information at this point.

Yeah, I'm just thinking the closer we get to the release could be the time when more information starts circulating.

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 3:19 PM

The biggest issue causing the Wii U sales is the lack of any real notable games. Once they get some out (like a new Mario, Zelda, or such), they'll be fine. Besides, X/Y will boost their profits anyways, so I wouldn't be too worried.

On the topic of data releasing, the summer months usually hold a plethora of information, so here's hoping!

BraveNewWorld April 23rd, 2013 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7637427)
But then there will be people who complained about more info on XY before they get the game, because they think one trailer and nothing else to reveal is enough to build so much happen, at least according to a popular youtube ranter when he made a negative review on Brawl for not being the game he wants it to be and for being spoiled by the info before the game's release, making him less hyped.

That's just stupid. It's not like you have to pay attention to the stuff being leaked/announced. Who is this "popular youtuber"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7637444)
I wonder if Pokemon X & Y sales can pick up the slack from the slump in Wii U Sales? According to Bloomberg, Nintendo are having financial issues.
http://www.examiner.com/article/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y-publisher-suffering-from-financial-issues

The Wii U has two huge problems one is a lack of new games. The second is horrid loading times.

Pinkie-Dawn April 23rd, 2013 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BraveNewWorld (Post 7637551)
That's just stupid. It's not like you have to pay attention to the stuff being leaked/announced. Who is this "popular youtuber"?

His name is RandomDCE, and he also ranted about Pokemon being the same old same old and wants the core gameplay changed.

Atomic Pirate April 23rd, 2013 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendhunter14 (Post 7637170)
and there are over 17 Legendaries. That's just ridiculous.

Considering how many crappy, unnecessary legends we've gotten in the recent gens, it wouldn't be surprising to get 17.

Still, I agree that the list is probably fake.

Guy April 23rd, 2013 5:28 PM

I have my fingers crossed that May will be the beginning of some real X/Y news as we head closer into the summer (or winter, depending on where you live) months. Also, whatever new Pokémon they decide to reveal next, I'm really hoping it's something new and native to the new region and not connected to anything from previous generations. Those are always a bit more fun to talk about in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7637560)
His name is RandomDCE, and he also ranted about Pokemon being the same old same old and wants the core gameplay changed.

If he's tired of the same old, same old then he should spend some more time playing the spin-off games. Those are different. Otherwise, I don't see GameFreak changing the core game-play of the main series anytime soon. It has worked for them for almost twenty years, why change it now?

Cyclone April 23rd, 2013 5:33 PM

I'm still waiting for a link to the fakery. Anyone have it?

Also, the "Fairy" type release that someone rumoured was happening "today" didn't happen, so yeah. Credibility lost.

Cyclone

Jake♫ April 23rd, 2013 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7637578)
I wouldn't really lower my expectations to think that the legends this generations would be horrible by any means. Maybe I'm just more of an optimistic person, but yeah, that's how I see things. u_u This generation has the potential to bring about some cool looking legendaries, at least going from Xerneas' and Yveltal's designs.

On the other hand, the designs for the Unova dragons were actually rather cool, but we also got a slew of legendaries that had essentially no back story whatsoever thrown in as well. I mean it's possible to have a nice amount of legendaries with cool designs, but with the trends from the last two generations it's looking kind of bleak. Of course, I'm hoping that they pull through and we get some cool things (regardless if we have fewer or more)!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2013 8:53 PM

I think Generation III was proably the peak of legendaries in term of designs overall, after that we got a mix of designs I feel. Hopefully Gen VI will be a rebirth.

Liberal Army April 23rd, 2013 10:05 PM

I tried to find the list yesterday but unfortunately...
I will do my best to find! I remember that Chespin's evolutions are called Chespine and Chespike. Chespike is Grass/Steel. Fennekin's final evolution is Fire/Psychic and Froakie's final evolution is Water/Dark.

Ho-Oh April 24th, 2013 7:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendhunter14 (Post 7637928)
I tried to find the list yesterday but unfortunately...
I will do my best to find! I remember that Chespin's evolutions are called Chespine and Chespike. Chespike is Grass/Steel. Fennekin's final evolution is Fire/Psychic and Froakie's final evolution is Water/Dark.

Even if it isn't true, I like those names/evolution types. Chespine actually sounds really likely for an evolution of Chespin lmao.

Ho-Oh April 24th, 2013 7:50 AM

I agree, I'm pretty sure Fennekin will end up that way, at least if not, maybe fire/ground I guess but I honestly doubt it'd be anything other than fire/psychic.

Cyclone April 24th, 2013 8:06 AM

It was my guess for Fennekin as well, and I called that immediately. I think I also picked Water/Fighting, and I think Grass/Steel was also a gimme (though I might have at first said Grass/Ground).

Cyclone

Liberal Army April 24th, 2013 9:10 AM

Well I've finally found an English site with the full list. The link to the site is at the end of is post. You can find the list at the site in a spoiler.
Spoiler:
650 - Chespin - Grass
651 - Chespine - Grass
652 - Chespike - Grass/Steel
653 - Fennekin - Fire
654 - Flarox - Fire/Psychic
655 - Sphinox - Fire/Psychic
656 - Froakie - Water
657 - Troubble - Water/Dark
658 - Croaking - Water/Dark
659 - Cheekent - Normal
660 - Storat - Normal
661 - Woodby - Normal/Flying
662 - Woodrill - Normal/Flying
663 - Picuill - Normal/Flying
664 - Maglicious - Bug/Dark
665 - Flivious - Bug/Dark
666 - Beelzely - Bug/Dark
667 - Cubark - Electric
668 - Spargir - Electric
669 - Pankey - Normal
670 - Pancheat - Dark
671 - Simicheat - Dark
672 - Pancus - Psychic
673 - Simicus - Psychic
674 - Panarts - Fighting
675 - Simiarts - Fighting
676 - Audiness - Normal
677 - Sneezpass - Rock
678 - Swoonbat - Psychic/Flying
679 - Slipander - Water/Poison
680 - Salizard - Water/Poison
681 - Salider - Water/Poison
682 - Traine - Fighting
683 - Grappul - Fighting
684 - Whak - Fighting
685 - Goblye - Dark/Ghost
686 - Gullure - Steel
687 - Vineus - Grass
688 - Stemato - Grass
689 - Toumato - Grass
690 - Potatable - Grass/Ground
691 - Potarth - Grass/Ground
692 - Jeweler - Bug/Ice
693 - Gemcier - Bug/Ice
694 - Arcticoa - Bug/Ice
695 - Sylveon - Normal
696 - Porygon 3D - Normal
697 - Usaki - Electric
698 - Usakira - Electric
699 - Chatronome - Normal/Flying
700 - Mamold - Rock/Ice
701 - Mamage - Rock/Ice
702 - Sabini - Rock
703 - Sabunter - Rock
704 - Skared - Steel/Flying
705 - Tropid - Grass/Flying
706 - Dreaman - Ground/Psychic
707 - Calight - Steel
708 - Caledight - Steel/Rock
709 - Protectoc - Steel
710 - Aegield - Steel
711 - Candisite - Water/Poison
712 - Candrain - Water/Poison
713 - Piranivor - Water
714 - Signin - Water/Psychic
715 - Symphiny - Water/Psychic
716 - Adoloma - Water
717 - Heavark - Water/Electric
718 - Scarekin - Ghost/Fire
719 - Fawkcrow - Ghost/Fire
720 - Burrorm - Bug/Ground
721 - Wyrmmel - Bug/Ground
722 - Mositch - Bug/Flying
723 - Mosavaler - Bug/Flying
724 - Volava - Rock/Fire
725 - Vesuma - Rock/Fire
726 - Leouth - Fire
727 - Warrion - Fire/Fighting
728 - Sasqueti - Normal
729 - Torspring - Fire/Water
730 - Calfoose - Normal/Ice
731 - Antloose - Normal/Ice
732 - Cryohedral - al/Ghost
757 - Avaloch - Water/Rock
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1821366-official-rumor-thread/19.htm

blue April 24th, 2013 9:15 AM

Even though that could be fake, I don't want to spoil the Pokedex, I'd rather wait until the release to discover them in game like I did with Black and White. Alhough I did see the evolutions of the starters and by the looks of the names and type combinations I do hope they're legitamte.

blue April 24th, 2013 9:33 AM

I remember someone posted a list of the Pokemon for Black and White a couple of months prior to the release on Pokejungle which turned out to be real so I'm unsure whether to believe this one. I had another glance at the names and some of them sound really believable and sound like real Pokemon names, but 6 months before the release we get a full list of Pokemon? I just find that a little hard to believe.

Liberal Army April 24th, 2013 10:08 AM

I see something went wrong with the end of the list. A lot of Pokemon are skipped. Here are they again.
Spoiler:
732 - Cryohedral - Ice/Steel
733 - Santibird - Ice/Flying
734 - Grimark - Ghost/Ground
735 - Tomone - Ghost/Ground
736 - Troublin - Poison/Dark
737 - Trollot - Poison/Dark
738 - Drudigoyle - Dragon/Rock
739 - Thundorm - Electric/Flying
740 - Haillcane - Ice/Flying
741 - Chivalis - Steel/Grass
742 - Komokid - Dragon/Poison
743 - Kommando - Dragon/Poison
744 - Dracodo - Dragon/Poison
745 - Shellmera - Water/Steel
746 - Tidaluna - Water/Steel
747 - Gungawl - Fighting/Steel
748 - Mjoltle - Fighting/Electric
749 - Trikil - Fighting/Poison
750 - Camestle - Rock/Ground
751 - Babower - Rock/Ghost
752 - Xerneas - Psychic/Steel
753 - Yveltal - Fighting/Flying
754 - Zagedur - Dragon/Ground
755 - Wataril - Dark/Psychic
756 - Umbake - Normal/Ghost

BraveNewWorld April 24th, 2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7638394)
I just hope these aren't real.

All I have to say.

Don't leave out the potato Pokemon.

Quote:

690 - Potatable - Grass/Ground
691 - Potarth - Grass/Ground

There's no way...

The list also claims Sylveon is Normal. So when its typing is officially announced it could debunk the list.

Jake♫ April 24th, 2013 10:19 AM

Tomato and potato Pokémon? Yeah going to have to call BS on that...

Cyclone April 24th, 2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

692 - Jeweler - Bug/Ice
Uh...come again? Not a chance.

Cyclone

ilias_ April 24th, 2013 11:43 AM

I am not going to believe this list! haha It seems so fake, but I will say that I dont want a Dragon/Poison type! :( I want a cool Dragon/Psychic pokemon this time! :( haha I cant wait until October! :)

Xander Olivieri April 24th, 2013 12:04 PM

You guys debunking it because of Tomato and Potato and yet no one comments on Porygon 3D...If anything that is the biggest clue that its fake XD

Still not sold that Fennekin is to break Fire/Fighting tradition yet. It doesn't scream any side type at all either unlike Chespin who practically screams Rock/Ground as a sub type.

Jake♫ April 24th, 2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7638565)
You guys debunking it because of Tomato and Potato and yet no one comments on Porygon 3D...If anything that is the biggest clue that its fake XD

I didn't even see that XD Yeah that would definitely make the list fake.

Cyclone April 24th, 2013 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7638565)
You guys debunking it because of Tomato and Potato and yet no one comments on Porygon 3D...If anything that is the biggest clue that its fake XD

Still not sold that Fennekin is to break Fire/Fighting tradition yet. It doesn't scream any side type at all either unlike Chespin who practically screams Rock/Ground as a sub type.

I saw that. I wasn't going to question it; it's possible, but I doubt Porygon will get another evo. or altermate evo. The genetics thing lends to something happening with it, though (computer genetics, 0s and 1s, think about it).

I did see the Dragon/Poison, too. I generally dislike Poison types (namely battling them, but using them as well), but the combination would be new and unique. I wouldn't mind one species like that.

Cyclone

Jake♫ April 24th, 2013 1:36 PM

Honestly the Torspring one isn't THAT out of the question, seeing as it is a turtle, which are partly water-based. Of course I'd expect to see more of a pure Fire type or a Fire/Ground type evolution though, or maybe Fire/Steel.

Xander Olivieri April 24th, 2013 3:32 PM

Poster: Doesn't Need
Poster: Doesn't need
Poster: Doesn't Need


Honestly...Nothing needs to evolve. Please stop saying that. You simply don't "want" them to evolve. Nothing needs an evolution. They evolve because Gamefreak wants to evolve them. We don't see a purpose in them because we don't "want" them to evolve.

I don't mind nor care what evolves since I have no personal control over it. They'll either be good or bad and depending on how much I like them I'd probably never use one even if its a god among Pokemon.

Guy April 24th, 2013 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7638638)
I'm...unsure if Audino needs an evolution

I'm all for Audino having an evolution if it means more Exp. Points.


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