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Gary0ak January 8th, 2013 2:22 PM

Multiple Save Files
 
Do you think Pokemon X and Y (And future Pokemon 3DS games in general) can support multiple save files? This could help against annoying brothers and sisters who delete your save file.

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary0ak (Post 7479506)
Do you think Pokemon X and Y (And future Pokemon 3DS games in general) can support multiple save files? This could help against annoying brothers and sisters who delete your save file.

Um That wouldn't help any more than the already in place save protection of not being able to delete the save file without being at the Main Menu

Plus if there were Multiple save files it Would be far to easy to Clone Pokemon -_-

Sydian January 8th, 2013 2:25 PM

I don't see them adding in another spot to have more than one save, honestly. Then again, with all the crazy things Game Freak has done the past few years, I don't think anyone can really predict this kind of stuff haha.

Mama-Mamo January 8th, 2013 2:26 PM

OMG YES. This would be great! :,D

Then I can be more organized in the housing of my prized Pokes! Multiple save files= more boxes in my PC. :3

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama-Mamo (Post 7479520)
OMG YES. This would be great! :,D

Then I can be more organized in the housing of my prized Pokes! Multiple save files= more boxes in my PC. :3

It Won't Happen

Multiple Save Files = Easy Pokemon Cloning

SaniOKh January 8th, 2013 2:31 PM

I don't think so. I don't think they will break this tradition.

Besides, thinking about why Pokémon games have 1 save file per cart, I'm not sure I want this. Scratch that, I'm sure I don't want this. Every time you win against a trainer, pick up an item or complete a side mission, it adds to the size of the save file. Pokémon themselves take a lot of space. It's basically either you have one save file and a big Pokémon game with lots of stuff to do, which is the case now, or (insert number here) saves and (the same number) times less trainers to fight, items to pick up, side quests, boxes in the Pokémon storage system etc. With each generation becoming bigger and better, emphasis on the "bigger", having multiple save files with all the repercussions would severely handicap the game.

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SaniOKh (Post 7479534)
I don't think so. I don't think they will break this tradition.

Besides, thinking about why Pokémon games have 1 save file per cart, I'm not sure I want this. Scratch that, I'm sure I don't want this. Every time you win against a trainer, pick up an item or complete a side mission, it adds to the size of the save file. Pokémon themselves take a lot of space. It's basically either you have one save file and a big Pokémon game with lots of stuff to do, which is the case now, or (insert number here) saves and (the same number) times less trainers to fight, items to pick up, side quests, boxes in the Pokémon storage system etc. With each generation becoming bigger and better, emphasis on the "bigger", having multiple save files with all the repercussions would severely handicap the game.

Actually the Save File Doesn't get any bigger at all

A Save File is a Pre-Determined Size from the Start and it stays that size Forever

DS Save Files were Generally 512kb 3DS Save will Probably be Between 1-4mb

Tman January 8th, 2013 2:36 PM

Nintendo is a company. Companies exist to make money. 1 save per cart makes someone not wanting to delete their save obtain more copies of the game. More games bought = More Money

SaniOKh January 8th, 2013 2:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shubshub (Post 7479541)
Actually the Save File Doesn't get any bigger at all

A Save File is a Pre-Determined Size from the Start and it stays that size Forever

DS Save Files were Generally 512kb 3DS Save will Probably be Between 1-4mb

I know, I just tried to explain it without going into too much detail :) .

But this is an even better way to explain the problem: either you have 4mb allocated to one save file with all the Pokémon data you can store, all the "Trainer fought" and "Item picked up" flags etc allowing a huge amount of content to be played, or you split it in 1mb files per save file, allowing to save much less data (EG: 4 boxes instead of 16) .

Kura January 8th, 2013 2:39 PM

I don't see them adding this feature. Seems like one is enough.. and there isn't really any hardware problems with the way it's acting now.. plus.. more save files= more people playing one game= less sales.

vaporeon7 January 8th, 2013 2:41 PM

I don't see it ever happening to be honest. It would just mean less people buying additional games. Not to mention the problem of Pokémon transfer.

Sydian January 8th, 2013 2:42 PM

I don't see why some of y'all are bringing up easy cloning? You can easily clone in gen V, so...I don't see how that's a big deal. :/ I guess cause they'd be giving us the opportunity for it, but still.

Don't think it'll happen anyway though.

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SaniOKh (Post 7479559)
I know, I just tried to explain it without going into too much detail :) .

But this is an even better way to explain the problem: either you have 4mb allocated to one save file with all the Pokémon data you can store, all the "Trainer fought" and "Item picked up" flags etc allowing for a humongous amount of content, or you split it in 1mb files per save file, allowing to save much less data.

Also if Multiple Save files were added Lets put it this way

A 3DS Game is between 1-8GB (And Seeing as though this is Pokemon expect it to be around 3gb)
The following things would Increase the Game ROM Size
3D Models (Which 6th Gen has)
The Length of the Game
The Amount of Pokemon


And With Multiple save files at 4mb each (Most games that allow multiple saves allow for 2-3 Saves) Thats About 8-16mb Worth of Save Files (And Multiple Saves are Normally Merged into 1 File to reduce clutter) So thats Basically a Predetermined File Size of 16mb Thats a Bit Big for a Game Save

Autaven January 8th, 2013 2:45 PM

Can't see it happening. It wouldn't really effect me to be fair as I don't have anyone else to be wanting a shot of it, good time to be an only child. But I really doubt they would add more.

BanditThePikachu January 8th, 2013 3:09 PM

That would be amazing if they could!

Gary0ak January 8th, 2013 3:37 PM

Guys I meant 2 save slots not 100 -_-
And why are you so concerned about Pokemon Cloning?

curiousnathan January 8th, 2013 3:40 PM

I'd definitely like this to be implemented. It'd allow me to play both as a girl and a boy, with completely different teams. Although it might tarnish sales, like others have mentioned, so that might be an issue...

Shubshub January 8th, 2013 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary0ak (Post 7479819)
Guys I meant 2 save slots not 100 -_-
And why are you so concerned about Pokemon Cloning?

BECAUSE CLONING WOULD RUIN THE DAMN GAMES

If you could clone a Pokemon Legit then
You could clone your Pokemon then trade 1 Copy away and get an Ultra cool Pokemon
and the Other Person didnt clone their Ultra Cool Pokemon

That means that other Person traded their Ultra Cool Pokemon with you hoping to get Potentially your 1 and Only X Pokemon but in reality you basically got the Ultra Cool Pokemon for Free...

SuperKirbyFan January 8th, 2013 3:51 PM

I'd LOVE for multiple save files. It would allow me to have a second file for challenge runs without having to buy the other version or using an emulator(and I despise using emulators)

SoulSilver10112 January 8th, 2013 3:52 PM

I don't think this'll happen, as the save data is saved onto the game card, not the system, which would mean multiple save files difficult because the card would hold less data than a system.

Altairis January 8th, 2013 6:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shubshub (Post 7479858)
BECAUSE CLONING WOULD RUIN THE DAMN GAMES
If you could clone a Pokemon Legit then
You could clone your Pokemon then trade 1 Copy away and get an Ultra cool Pokemon
and the Other Person didnt clone their Ultra Cool Pokemon

That means that other Person traded their Ultra Cool Pokemon with you hoping to get Potentially your 1 and Only X Pokemon but in reality you basically got the Ultra Cool Pokemon for Free...

People already clone Pokemon all the time, there are several really easy ways to do it! That's how we trade nowadays really :) It's not like that really! That's how we get to keep our shinies so we can trade it away to more people. You can only benefit really! Plus if you only want a regular (not shiny, not EV or IV) Pokemon, it's actually quite easy, lots of people are willing to trade them away for free! :3

I would love it if multiple save files could happen, but I don't really see it! Wouldn't it take up a lot of space? I would prefer a large game file than one half the size and the ability to play with multiple files. I'm not sure though because I don't actually make the games! :P

They haven't had any multiple files for any spin offs where I can see it being more likely, so I don't think this game will be the one.

Cyclone January 8th, 2013 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shubshub (Post 7479516)
Um That wouldn't help any more than the already in place save protection of not being able to delete the save file without being at the Main Menu

Plus if there were Multiple save files it Would be far to easy to Clone Pokemon -_-

This. I mean, imagine these steps:

1. Play game. Collect all legendaries, some Events, etc.
2. On menu, Copy Game function to duplicate game.
3. Trade Pokémon from duplicate game.
4. Delete duplicate game.
5. Repeat steps 2-4.

It would mean infinite duplicate legendaries. Not what GF has in mind. They won't do this the same as many other types of games do (New Super Mario Bros. 2 for example), but they possibly could allow a second or third save WITHOUT the ability to copy your game. Or they might include a backup function that allows you to restore a saved game deleted in error (this might also be abused however by hackers).

Cyclone

Seth Rollins January 10th, 2013 5:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shubshub (Post 7479858)
BECAUSE CLONING WOULD RUIN THE DAMN GAMES

If you could clone a Pokemon Legit then
You could clone your Pokemon then trade 1 Copy away and get an Ultra cool Pokemon
and the Other Person didnt clone their Ultra Cool Pokemon

That means that other Person traded their Ultra Cool Pokemon with you hoping to get Potentially your 1 and Only X Pokemon but in reality you basically got the Ultra Cool Pokemon for Free...

Uhhhhh....dude. There are several ways to clone PKMNs. Example, you have Soul Silver and Diamond, you can clone your PKMNs in Diamond then trade to Sul Silver to trade to another person. You can clone PKMNs even in one game one save file. Another example: A dude wants Pichu for his Togepi. You can catch Pichu in the same place you catched him, then trade one and you keep the other one with you O_O. So, yeah, I hope they can make multiple save files.

Cordelia January 10th, 2013 5:50 AM

Highly doubtful -- they make more money by having only one save per file because people will buy another copy of the game.

blue January 10th, 2013 5:53 AM

If you could back save files up onto an SD card and then load them at any time, that would enable multiple saves in a way but I'm not sure that's likely just yet.


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