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So there's still more? I doubt they'll reveal any new Pokemon unless, like I said the new Eeveelution has some sort of Counterpart but what we've got already is great.
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Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if this was all we got. However, I was really hoping we would have gotten to know the region name and possibly seen a glimpse of it by now. It's usually one of the first things that get revealed early on.
It's possible we can see a few more scans leak later within the day or next few days if there's more. CoroCoro doesn't officially come out until the 15th anyway. |
Regarding Ninfia, it being the lightest in weight of all Eeveelutions could further imply it being flying-type. That with its generally floaty appearance makes me bet on Flying. But could go any way. :P
I'd really love to see some more general info in the future pages. Especially more overworld and landscapes, hahaha |
Every time I hear "Light" type it brings back bad memories of people speculating before Gen V about it urghh. dem horrible reasons
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I hate Victini. His eyes are also creepy. I also hate Pikachu. Why the hell is he has to stuck himself between all those eevee family members in the poster, even though he is defiantly not an eeveelution?! |
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Is there really a need for a Light type though? |
We're likely getting more, there is still some XY news to be had, and the Pokemon Rumble U page hasn't been leaked yet. In other news, cutest eeveelution yet, or cutest one yet? I love the big ol eyes, and the ribbons give it some elegance. I wonder what type its going to be.
Scratch that, seems like this is all for XY this month. |
I must say I'm slightly disappointed in this Eeveelution. I thought it was fake when I first saw it. I'm kind of going back and forth between if I like it or not.
In any case, I think it's flying. It looks too much like Victini. I'm hoping for the male counterpart idea, that was pretty legit. |
I... really don't mind that it looks like a Victini, or have the colors of a Milotic. I mean, in the world of pokemon, pokemon look like other pokemon. I'm just glad that we have this little guy; I do wonder if there's going to be another Eeveelution revealed later maybe. CoroCoro is supposed to be released on the 15th no? Perhaps we'll see more scans?
In any case, judging by that in game image in the full scan... those kinda look like feathers to me (though being orange and red is odd, maybe sky attack?) and it doesn't look like it's getting hit, it looks like it's using the attack itself. Hence why flying just bumped normal off its perch as "most likely type" in my book. Though if it does turn out to be normal, there's a few interesting possibilities that makes more likely. If it is normal type, it stands to reason that it might be treated differently than the other eeveeolutions, due to being the same type as eevee. As such it might not adhere to the same conventions as past eeveeolutions. It could have a different set of base stats, maybe even a different total. It could have a different level-up move pattern. All sorts of things. But really, now that I've seen that in-game image I'm thinking flying, which I can't help but to wonder about. How will it perform in competitve battling? Of course this all depends on the spread and movepool. Flying is an interesting type, and is very potent offensively given the right moves. The problem is of course that most flying types that aren't straight up birds tend to get the shaft when it comes to flying type moves. |
I saw one speculation that said it looks like Ninfia is using Feather Dance in the one picture from the poster. Maybe it is a flying type?
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I'm looking at that picture and it doesn't look like FeatherDance at all, although it's hard to say as they like to revamp the designs of attacks. |
This Pokemon, I can honestly say, is the absolute worst looking Pokemon of all time! I'd much rather have seen a starter evolution rather then this piece of crap. I'm praying its not flying type, because they had an awesome chance to make an Eevelution a badass.
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Yea not entirely sure about it using feather dance....and also what feathers?
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It's not the worst looking Pokémon of all time, but IMO it's the worst eeveelution. It just seems overdesigned and barely fits with the others.
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Hmm. Well I like Ninfia, though of all the Eeveelutions it's the least appealing to me. Can't say I know what type it is but if I had to guess I'd go with Flying. I've seen speculation elsewhere that it's a new type but I hope to goodness it's not. Still, the text on the scan is mysterious. "There's a secret in this evelution", "which type?" etc.
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I'm going to laugh if this thing turns out to be normal typed, haha.
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I'd rather like it if it were normal-typed. Still can't shake the bug-type feeling I get from its name though.
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I get that, bug type feeling from Ninfia.
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I'm very unhappy. And this being one of the first new Pokemon? (Other then starters or legendaries of course) Was in awe of the landscape, the legendaries and 2/3 starters look great, but this thing....wow, can you say buzzkill? I'm hoping the other Pokemon (hopefully) coming with this scan can match up to the awesomeness of Xerneas/Yveltal.
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I kinda want this to be normal. If they have another Eeveelution this semester it would make sense for the counterpart to be Ghost - I dunno - I just feel like that makes sense.
I've been waiting for a ghost Eevee forever. |
I like Ninfia, it's just adorable... That is, if you can ignore for a second that it looks like Milotic and Victini's lovechild (with a ribbon). Otherwise it's cute. Here's hoping for something awesome typing-related, like Dragon or Flying :) ...or both.
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I thought I'd compile some of the main arguments about it's type I've seen being tossed around:
Flying-type
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I still bet on it betting Flying or maybe Fighting in some way, but Normal type can be... interesting? I'm not sure if it's going to be a Dragon though. Although, that would be interesting as well. |
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I sort of agree with you on some points, but I don't much mind the "cutesy" looking pokemon myself, but looking at this new pokemon, I think of it as setting more options to competitive playing of pokemon, or just battling in general. I see that's one of the ways that these pokemon are indeed "revolutionary". Mmm, but well, if you do get another Eeveelution, I just hope it's unique on its own right when it comes to type and movesets maybe - to me, features are only part of a pokemon's appeal. Hopefully there will be more leaks of CoroCoro scans this week. |
First impressions are rarely good with Pokémon designs. Every time they experiment with styles and do something we're not used to, many of us are repulsed at first. Many Pokémon I like now, I would probably have really disliked the first time I saw the in a context like this. And the first time I saw the starters they looked absolutely ridiculous to me. But so did the gen V starters, and so did the IV ones.
Basically, it's a matter of gradually getting used to the design style. GF usually changes it between generations, which is why evolutions between generations often seem funky (obvious example would be the Rhyhorn-Rhydon-Rhyperior family). But in a year, Ninfia will probably look as natural to us as, say, Espeon does now. |
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We've seen a total of six Pokemon from the new generation. It's too early to call "oh this generation will all be too cutesy" or "all this stuff is too manly looking" right now. Wait till we have more Pokemon to determine that. Besides, I hated Chespin and Froakie at first, and after a few hours, I got used to them. You just have to let things sink in a bit before you go off hating everything.
Also hated Black Kyurem when it was revealed now I love it for no reason...lmao. :( I've just learned to keep my mouth shut on things and wait for it to settle before I say "OH THIS IS UGLY!" or what not. Besides, if you don't like the official art, I'm sure there's tons of fanart now. That's what got me to like Chespin and Froakie. Official art doesn't always do a Pokemon any good. |
it's not a Normal type, Eevee is the Normal type of the Evveelution family
my guess is either Flying or Fighting, that, and the colors are similar to Skyla Looks like a Milotic/Mienshao got merged with an Eevee |
I agree, I was just furious because that pokemon's art looks SO bad... I know EEVEE evolutions are mainly cutsy, but that just took it too far for me. I shouldn't have thrown up with rage on the forum, sorry about that. I'll get used to it...maybe... Froakie still isn't appealing, like I said, the evolutions is a make or break for me. I love Fennekin (hoping for a new Ninetales-type) and chespin would be awesome if it evolved into a giant hedgehog thing. It just depends until they release more info.
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I hope that this is a female and maybe there will be a male counterpart? It's a little bit too girly, even for an eeveelution. I'm a bit disappointed, but I still like it.
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I like the new eeveelution. But then, I like them all. I don't even care what type it is. Eevee and its evolutions have always been a favourite of mine.
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Ninfia, however, looks way too different from the other eeveelutions. At first I thought it was a standalone Pokémon. It doesn't help that it looks the most girly of them either. |
I have a feeling that the "Ninf" in Ninfia comes from the word feminine.
It would be cool to have a male counterpart named Linmia (Masculine). |
The name sounds like it's based off the word "nymph", to me. Since we already have a grass, water and dark type Eevee and this certainly doesn't look like a ground-type, I think it will be based off celestial nymphs, which mostly represented stars and light.
I personally think it will be a Light-type. One could say it's designs are similar to Skyla and stuff and would argue that it will be Flying-type, but the blue/red could also be references to the Red and Blue ends of the light spectrum. |
Does anyone notice Ninfia doesn't have "Eon" at the end of it's name?
I change my mind about it being Flying or Normal, because in Corocoro they said it's type is a secret, which could mean that is a new type, and I am so hoping that new type is "Light". |
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When Dark and Steel were introduced in GSC, it was because the game was broken. Psychic had no legitimate threats, so they had to make some.
What is so broken in Pokemon today that they need new type. Haven't we learned by now that Game Freak firmly believes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Light type itself is stupid because Fire makes light. Any Pokemon slated to be Light Type could easily be re-cast as a Fire pokemon. Plus, there are a bunch of type combinations that haven't even be tried before. The new Eevee is jarring to say the least. It it for real... I love all the other ones. IF this new one is flying type, I will love it too. 1. Because we need a Pure Flying type pokemon. (Tornadus doesn't count.) 2. It doesn't look like any other type. |
The scans seem to make a big deal of it being "talented," supposedly using a variety of attacks (because it looks to be using Swift and some sort of Fire attack in the screenshots), so perhaps it is Normal but can use a variety of attacks. My boyfriend suggested it having Multitype xD I know that sounds a bit Farfetch'd(!), but looking at it now I wouldn't be surprised if it was, lol!
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That's a scan from CoroCoro so it's definitely true.
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At first I though it's a new form of Victini, most probably it's a flying type.
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It looks very flying-type ish. Also, the bows look like buterflies, so it could definitely be a Flying type. Its hair scarf things look like Skyla's hair, too.
In any case, I love it. It's ADORABLE. |
It looks like Victini - the colour scheme, the fangs, even the "V" design on its paws and its forehead. Perhaps it's a Victini forme when combined with Eevee, an extension of the same mechanism/concept they used for Kyurem-B/W?
*Or an Eevee forme/evolution in the presence of Victini? |
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I.. really don't think the art means all that much. It could be just a coincidence that the two look similar (which I kind of don't see to be honest; it doesn't look -exactly- like Victini). I mean, juuust because pokemon look like various other pokemon, doesn't necessarily mean it means much of anything. A lot of pokemon do share some familiar facial features, especially the eyes.
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Since when does Ninfia look anything like Victini...? I'm sorry, but I am not able to see any real resemblance, other than the resemblances that MANY Pokemon share.
I think Ninfia is very unique as a Pokemon, compared to what we currently have. |
It also looks way too similar To Milotic. The color scheme and the ribbons.
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The first thing I thought when I saw it was that it looked like Victini mixed with Milotic.
I think it's a new type, which I think will be a Rainbow-type, and I would of thought that even if there wasn't a rainbow in the background. I also think the new legendary Pokémon revealed last month are the same type, plus something additional. The one for Y is clearly part Flying-type. I would prefer a Light-type, which is something I've wanted since gen 2. This announcement clearly means a return to having new evolutions for older Pokémon which makes me extremely happy. I didn't think we would see a new Eevee, but I was hoping for one. I hope we get a second one, but I doubt it. I don't like the look of this one. |
So how will Ninfeon's base stats will be spread? We know it's 130, 110, 90, 65, 65, and 60 from all Eeveelutions.
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Aaah, it's adorable! I'm thinking it looks an awful lot like a normal type. Although it could be flying, with all the flowiness, and the ribbons do look a little bit like butterflies.
Perhaps it evolves when given a ribbon or winning one (possibility of contests?). |
She looks agile at least so I'm hoping she'll join Espeon in the base 110 club. I also hope she becomes a fast Pokemon with a huge Defense stat (130), decent HP (95), and basically nothing for offenses (65 each with the last 60 in SpDef.)
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I'll want it to be a speedy, special attacker pokémon with decent defenses, and low attack stat if flying, if it's normal than reverse the sp atk with the atk.
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That is an interesting spread Fast and Defensive wall at the same time. Has that been done before? Nothing comes to mind. It might not be the most competitive thing, but it would be worth it just to be different. However, Flying is typically a offensive type. |
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Wait no, Leafeon is physical you fool. :( |
Hm, maybe clues of it's physical or special specialty speculations can come from the clearer image of the second page that reveals Ninfia here:
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On the first image on the left, it looks like a Swift attack... or some sort of new star attack? The middle image looks like some sort of flaming-feather attack.. could that be a new move? Well, whatever they are, they don't appear to be physical moves. So, maybe it's specially based? Of course, the jury is still out on that one. |
I can't help but add in my own guess guess as to what stat arrangement Ninfia will have (in order of HP/Atk/Def/SAtk/SDef/Spe of course):
60/65/65/95/130/110. I like Doronjo's spread too, but I think it'll make Ninfia play a bit like a faster Umbreon. |
The new Eeveelution looks alright, not great, but still cute. But the fakemon art drawn by Rueme is far greater then Ninfia.
Check these out: (Eeveelutions at the bottom of the page) http://rueme.deviantart.com/gallery/26440436 |
If the double helix in the japanese logo is anything to go by, this looks like a combination of eevee and skitty?
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It could be a Dual-type Eeveelution? That could possibly be why theyre keeping it a secret, it would be a first and it does sort of look like more than just one type. Even though they've been used previously, to me it looks like Psychic/Fire which coincidentially happens to be the same type combination as Victini. I could be wrong but it is something tht they have never done before for an eeveelution.
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If Ninfia is a Flying type, which I'm assuming it might be, then I hope it's more offensive than it is defensive. I'm terrible at making my own stat spread, but something akin to Togekiss would be great; if only the Eevee line had higher stats though instead, specifically 60/65/65. Although, if it had to be a speedy physical hitter, then it better come with some great physical moves. Flareon suffers from this, while Leafeon isn't half bad. Otherwise I don't entirely mind another special Eeveelution.
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Is it just me or do they look more like digimon than last Gen.?
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They want us to speculate on Nympeons typing. The main reason I believe it is a Light type is because.of this. If it had been any existing type it would be easily recognizable. If it were a normal type I'm sure it would resemble Eevee more.
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But a light type doesn't make any sense. The only argument people give is that Dark type needs a counter. What people miss is that it isn't even called "Dark" type in Japanese. It's "Evil" type. This alone ends he discussion for a light type. There is opposite for Evil type. You can say that Every other Type is an Opposite of Evil.
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Hmmm it's a little off the current topic, but it's something I was just thinking about. Given that there's two days until CoroCoro's real release, I kind of doubt we'll hear anything more other than this Eeveelution this month, actually. I expected it to be like a slow leak but there isn't anything yet today which makes me a little curious about this. Maybe we won't get any more major information til next month? Might put it more on-par with B/W's release, at least. ;(
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Eh, there really isn't much scans leaked other than a Rumble game for the Wii U and the official declaration of the new pokemon movie. There's two more days for chances for more leaks to be released about new pokemon, in which I'm betting that we'll probably get it on the 15th.
Is it likely? Maybe, maybe not. I'm still hoping for the official art of the protagonist to be released, along with more cities and pokemon. |
I also believe we're done for the month. I don't remember the last time Coro Coro revealed just one random pokemon. But if there were more, we would have had atleast something. Oh well, lets see.
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Gamefreak revises all their stuff anyway. Has nobody even noticed that between generations (especially Gen V) moves often get changes or PP/accuracy/base power boosts? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gamefreak purposefully went through the trouble of allowing more status moves to be reflected my Magic Bounce (or whatever it's called) as well, and that's just one example. If people who take the metagame very seriously do get bugged by this stuff, guess what: nobody is stopping anybody from playing the Gen V metagame! Seriously, there are simulators out there that can do Gen II, people. My message to the metagame, if they really care about this so much (myself, as somebody who very recently started competitive battling again after a long hiatus, not to mention somebody who loves in-game battles, would totally love it) is to get with the program. "Messing up" the metagame, as in adding more twists and ideas, would be a great thing! Things get very, very stale in the video gaming world, when they aren't revolutionized. We would still be playing Gen-I-quality games if Gamefreak never bothered to change anything. I would love to have a new type, but the purpose of this post is not to really start an argument or defend one. I'm not sure if it sounds like it, but I'm not trying to defend a new type or propose it or whatever, but I'm discussing why those aren't really valid points. Consider me playing devil's advocate, or whatever. Rather, I just want to take the time to say that if you have a closed mind (talking to people in general here) about something you have no control over, (unless suddenly everybody here started working on Gamefreak, and I was not informed) you just end up ignoring what could be potentially exciting possibilities. Nobody has the right to just shut down speculation, or reversely declare speculation as fact. I hope this doesn't sound too weird! Basically, in summary while I would love a new type, I don't believe or disbelieve that there will be a new type. Rather, I want to state that anything is possible! And I apologize if it seemed like I was directly attacking your post; I just sort of wanted to rebut it and use it as a platform for my own opinion. (Which isn't even very concrete...) On the subject of Ninfia actually being a new type (because I noticed this has begun to go off-topic...) I honestly don't know, and I don't really care. If it'd be pure Flying type, that'd be cool, but its typing is not my primary concern. What I will say is that I hope it isn't dual-typed. I hope CoroCoro has more information to give us; one new Pokemon and some other information I don't particularly care for doesn't satisfy me. I want to see more Pokemon! I don't care too much for anything else, unless Gamefreak really begins to break the mold and reveal a lot of new, more unique information (another "this game will have eight boring gyms" and I'll be really disappointed). |
Oh honestly. Every 5 minutes this discussion pops up. I could have swore there was already a topic for crazed Light fans to scream about how the type is absolutely definitely going to happen this generation, does it need to infect so many other threads? I hate to be rude but it is incredibly tiresome to see the same people saying the same things over and over again.
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Oh, and I wanted to mention, does anybody remember the animated trailer for B2/W2? I'd really love something like that for X and Y; that way, we get a lot of information in terms of setting, story, and mood. (Sort of, at least, in my opinion!) Whereas CoroCoro always seems (again, in my opinion) to leak out the most boring information possible. Not even any interesting gameplay information, or anything. We get new Pokemon, which is cool, but that's about it (and even then, we barely get any information about those Pokemon). |
Right thus far we only know the most things about the starters in their basic forms, the other three new pokemon we only know their height and weight, and that one of them (Ninfia) is an evolution of Eevee.
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Or at least from the new Nintendo Direct video? Pyramids would be awesome tbh~ |
Well the building in the trailer sort of reminded me of the Louvre so maybe it's pyramid (it doesn't have an actual name that I know of) will appear too.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_du_Louvre Even that could be the potential palace instead of the one at Versailles, thanks to the intricate architecture. But yeah, I really want the Nintendo Direct to drop a region name, or at least a region map. Its the one thing that I really want, and it would spark my interest for XY like no other. |
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When exactly is the next issue, by the way? I've heard that it was next month, but... |
A return of the battle building in HgSs near Blue's gym will be nice, it could take advantage of the 3DS' streetpass feature.
I don't think Corocoro will show the battle frontier if their's one unless if it's only a small piece like with PWT which showed the small shops and the flags which left some of us guessing what it could possibly be. |
Bring back the Battle Subway, and kill Fly. I found it extremely inane to not only have a Subway system, but a subway system with multiple stops, exist in a game with a much stagnated quick travel. It wouldn't even need to break the game, and could easily explained by having you obtain a boarding pass circa gym 4, with stations in the next cities unreachable due to access barred by gym badges. I understand the battle subway is for fighting, but Anville Town's line suggests otherwise.
Give us the frontier from the start, no 3rd version or sequel excuse should exist this time round. Anything those games would offer could easily come in the form of DLC now, so the Battle Frontier being here should happen. Give it a grand revival, with some more substantial rewards, and perhaps even a more complete feel to it. Have the PWT a facility, but with unlockable tournaments that depend on your beaten facilities. Beat them all? Well here, have a Battle Brain Tournament, complete with all the hax in the world! |
So, I just saw that new Eevee thing, Ninfia, or whatever. Just, no. And this...thing...is supposed to be cute? First of all, Minccino with it's scarves was bad enough, but now we have a pink...thing...covered in ribbons? Why?
I swear though, if this...thing...means that there is going to be a "Light" type, then...just...no. |
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I think Ninfia's cute, I like it better than Mincinno whom I like as well. |
Looking at Ninfia, I'm gonna say it'll be a Normal/Flying type, instead of being just 1 or the other. There's only 1 pure Flying type Pokemon: Tornadus, which is pretty much the "spirit of the wind". Standard Pokemon are usually judged by the elemental powers first. Since Ninfia doesn't seem to possess elemental features, I think that's a sign of it being Normal. And the ribbons (for the game footage pic in the magazine) apparently move, it might use those to fly.
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I think Gamefreak showed with 5th gen that the Battle Frontier itself isn't a staple of the series, but a competitive battling facility is. I personally hope to see something in the spirit of the Frontier, but which isn't a clone of the 3rd gen Frontier. Just because people didn't like the Subway much, doesn't mean they shouldn't keep experimenting.
I want to see a facility with the "face" of the new region. Just cloning the Frontier would be wrong IMO. |
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