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I hope we get some news on the new features of the games next issue. |
Back to Ninfia. Usually I wouldn't be much concerned about a new type, but it's quite telling that one of the first Pokémon announced was an eeveelution. Why would they do that? And why would they design something which has nothing to do with the current types? I don't think it looks like it can fly, and it doesn't look like a bug either. They seem to make a big deal about the typing, too, since they're not revealing it, whereas with Leafeon and Glaceon the typing was a given. I'm starting to believe it's a new type, but I don't know what it could be. I'm fairly sure it won't be a "Light" type. It might be translated this way, though.
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I find it interesting how they haven't revealed the types of any of the new pokemon beyond the starters which are obvious. I thought they were going to reveal the types of the Mascots yet they've been keeping it a secret with another secretive pokemon introduced...maybe it is a new type and all three share it.
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I do wonder how the animations will look when they come out...I don't beleive they showed them emerging in the trailer. |
Regarding Ninfia - for a combination of reasons, I think it's going to be Dragon type.
Why, you might ask, would they make a cute, pink dragon type with bows? To highlight the new friendship mechanic they hinted at. The pokemon's happiness is apparently going to have an effect beyond simply triggering evolution or establishing the base power of Return. And what better way to introduce that mechanic than with an Eeveelution (one of the most popular lines of pokemon in the games) that's a Dragon type (probably the overall most popular type)? I predict that it will not only be Dragon type, but will have just about the best possible Eevee stat spread, so it will potentially be a VERY effective battler, BUT... only if you love it and take care of it. And with that face, who could resist? 'course, I could be partly wrong, mostly wrong or entirely wrong, but that's what I'm thinking at the moment... |
So, is Ninfia all we're getting for the week?
Seriously? No starter evolutions? No background on the legendaries? No new Pokémon? Just another Eeveelution?
Don't get me wrong, its a good piece of news, but not enough for me to chew for a few more months. When are we finally going to see the starter evolutions?? That's what I wanna know. |
It seems like this is all we're getting this month.
Just like past games, they will give a little more info on the games every month in Corocoro, which the scans start coming during the middle of the month. |
For this week? I doubt we'll be getting more for a while. This is only the second round of info so far, and it's been a while, so there's nothing suggesting we're getting any more soon. Mind you we could very well get some more.
I don't even remember how they delt out info the the older generations lol It does seem wierd, the lack of info we have |
Ninfia looks so much like victini it isn't even funny
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You do realize that we could have had absolutely nothing in exchange for the Eevee Evolution. We don't have to have any news until we get closer to October. So even a little bit is nice.
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This is extremely random, but after watching Pokemon Ranger:Temple of the Sea just
now, I realized, we have never had a dolphin Pokemon! And they are like the symbols of the sea. (Yeah we have had whales, turtles, sharks, and numerous fish, but no dolphins? What??) maybe they might make one for Gen 6? And coro coro scans are due on Friday, right? (Edit) Yeah, Kyogre is an orca whale (which is the largest member of the dolphin family) but its not really a dolphin. |
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but how in the world would a dolphin be able to use solarbeam, id be laughing so hardly if it could do so
or they could make it clamperl-evo-like - either evolve into a water/psychic or water/fighting, depending on your choice |
If they make a Dolphin Pokemon I would finally be able to die happy or something. I've been wanting a Dolphin Pokemon for years now. One of my initial disappointments with the Fifth Gen after they showed all the Pokemon was that they didn't make a Dolphin. I do not want to be disappointed again.
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i just want the typing, thats all i ask, didn't that show say we would get more news today?
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I wonder if they are against it because it could create controversy with the whole Japanese whale and dolphin killing thing. That's a pretty heavy topic right there. But we have Wailord, so I don't see why not. In my opinion though, a dolphin Pokemon would be hard to get right. I see it turning out looking very weird, but I'd embrace it if they got it right. On the Ninfia topic, I'm putting my money on it being flying. That looks a hell of a lot like Skyla and I could see it becoming her signature Pokemon.
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There aren't any other schedueled news releases other than this. Internationally we have to wait for one of these to align and watch Pokemon's Twitter/Pokemon.com to see if we get the international version of it. We still have 2 days to see if the Coro Coro leak is japanese exclusive (which is possible seeing as its more Movie related than game related with Ninfia headlining the Pikachu Short with Eevee.) If we don't get any info on Ninfia for English viewers by the 15th than its Japanese exclusive release. |
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I think Ninfia will be Dragon type. Sounds a little weird, but come on, Vibrava is also Dragon Type.
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If anything it will most likely be flying due to the kite-tail ribbons. |
Here's a random idea; its' official name is Sylveon, so what if it was Steel-type? Sylv? Silver?
...Maybe not. In my opinion, it's either Bug- or Flying-type. |
Ok, I've just read Serebii and it's Sylveon huh? I like that name and it's kind of giving off a silver/steel feel to the name but judging by it's appearance I wouldn't class it as a steel type.. hmm.
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I feel like sylveon is
A ghost type, anyone else? I mean she's very pastel, the fangs, the eyes, ghosts can be cutesy right?
Anyone with me? I'm no expert on attacks in any way but they also led me to think this, even though I have no idea what's what. What are your thoughts on typing? |
Sylveon -> Sylph and "Sylphs are female and are almost transparent. They're slender and graceful, with large glistening eyes and huge wings".
That to me seems like a fairly strong endorsement of this being the Flying type Eeveelution. |
Clue: Ninfia is considered the lightest eeveelution. Though not the lightest Pokemon, but the light weightness could provide a clue. Flying comes to mind, maybe some way of flight, I picture Sylveon could create wings made of energy. Imagine Sylveon with feather wings, it would look very cool.
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Corocoro mentioned that that more secrets will be revealed about it next month. Sooo that will be the new addition. Any hopes? Maybe it's typing will be revealed? Or maybe how to actually evolve Eevee to it?
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I like the English name, and that it likely hints towards Flying-type Eeveelution. If that's trueee then I wonder why they decided on only flying??
But ya, I think next month we'll definitely get its typing, and perhaps details about an event involving it maybe...? |
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I am agreeing that Sylveon has a good chance of being Flying now, but still have to wit for confirmation. |
If it DOES end up being Flying type, i would be disappointed. Yes, it's the lightest eevelution but not my much. Neither does it have a very aerodynamic Body shape.4 ribbons can't lift 23 kgs.
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So wait, are the bow tie and ribbons coming from its flesh? It sure looks like it and that's plain creepy.
What a soulless design, borderline terrible. Then again I suppose that's what you should expect from an Eevee evolution. |
Given the English name, which is pretty awesome by the way, I think it's looking more and more likely that Sylveon will be a Flying type. With the Sylph connection, does anyone think the long ribbons were inspired from the Sylph Hummingbird?
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I like that idea. I'd love for it to be a Ghost. The shiny can be purple maybe.
Also, this is gonna get moved to the CoroCoro discussion thread. |
oh my god, what if it is? the move at :15 could be aerial ace!!
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It's Trump Card, actually.
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I dig "Sylveon". I have no idea what the first attack was, but the next two were most definitely Trump Card and Swift.
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Wow, that actually would explain the eyes and fangs! And its elegance could make it vampire-based. Not sure how the name ties in with it (well, it would tie in with Nynfia), but that's not a bad interpretation at all! I'm definitely keeping that on my possibilities list.
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Anyway, I think Sylveon will not be dragon type but yes, flying type due to the prefix. Like the others prefixes of olders eeveelotuions resemble to something, "Sylph", in this case, resembles to the air. I think that isn't more anything to argue about this. |
Sylveon doesn't look like a ghost type to me. It looks like a normal type. But I think it will be a flying type because lots of people are also saying it'll be a flying type c; I don't think it'll be a light type because err.. I just don't want a light type c;
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I think it fits in well in terms of design with the other Eeveelutions, I was slightly skeptical at first but I'm really warming to it now! Especially after finding out it's English translated name. Plus, the Eeveelution count is at a nice rounded figure now.
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Why is the pic lined up for super effective and weakness equality? Don't tell me Sylveon is flying...
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I'd love for Sylveon to be Flying, personally. I'm just curious as to how it will evolve. Will it be location-based? Or maybe the first trade Eeveelution? |
That short trailer and the flowing ribbons is only convincing me more and more that it is a Flying-type(along with the Sylph talk) and it's just too friggin' adorable that I have to finally admit it.
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By that logic it could easily be reversed, meaning Sylveon is Super Effective against Jolteon which makes it a Ground Type, something that hasn't been used either.
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It's most probably a flying type, but after I saw the trailer I think it's a normal type.
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Yeah but that thing, a Ground pokémon?
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Arguably I could say that it "doesn't" look like a ground pokemon, and I'm still betting on it to be flying, but, maybe the next issue will tell.
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After the moves it used the only 2 sticking out to me are normal and flying.
Each eeveelution has their own distinct visual traits sticking them out, umbreon with hoops, glaceon with the glacier earring looking things, leafeon with the leafs, jolteon with the spikes and so on. It's clear that Sylveons are tassles, or ribbons and bows. Which in a sense reminds me of chimecho family nd Jirachi, all pokemon which can fly and float. The pink look of the pokemon still makes it seem like a normal type though, fitting in with the puffs and clefs. I'm stil not sure, I'll place my wager on flying though, which would be slightly weird to see a 4 legged pokemon just flying in the air :L |
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We all know that it would look more, as Aerilyn says, earthy if it were really a ground type. So far they have managed to give each Eeveelution a look that fits it's type really well, this doesn't look even remotely close to a ground type. |
It's just how they're currently portraying it, they've highlighted that they are keeping the typing a secret which may imply that it is ambiguous. If it was going to be something predictable by the appearance, they wouldn't bother keeping it a secret at all. Plus, an earthy design would be far too similar to Leafeon IMO. There are the odd few Pokemon who don't look remotely close to their typing too.
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When I heard Sylveon as being the English name, I immediately thought of Sylph. Don't much about mythology but in the Tales of series they're almost always associated with wind. :laugh: So I'll stick with it being a flying-type.
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Hm... thinking about it, the colors of it are quite intriguing. I mean, noticed that the colors are not exactly monochrome like the rest of the eeveelutions (well, maybe kind of barring Leafeon) that sorta represent their type? Well, maybe it's something minor, but, I see it very unique compared to the rest of the eeveelutions, if anything. It can be a very interesting flying type if it turns out to be one. |
Majority of Wind based attacks aren't flying type. I'll have to get a full count when I'm on a computor, but right off the top of my head, Silver Wind (bug), Icy Wind (ice), Ominous Wind (ghost), Gust (flying), Hurricane (flying), Whirlwind (normal), and Razor Wind (normal). These I remember right off as definate wind based attacks. Going to look up the others if there are others, but my point wind =/= flying in every aspect.
So Sylveon being wind doesn't mean its guaranteed Flying. They can sneak in another type pretty easily. My only question is: If the moves in the trailer were Focus Blast, Swift, Trump Card, and Future Sight, can Eevee and its evolutions learn all four? The evolutions and Eevee are usually very limited in their move pools due to Eevee's ability to have a large number of evolutions. I can't see it learning Focus Blast and Future sight if its Flying. |
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There is one rather mad theory I found on Instagram suggesting Sylpheon will be the first "Love" Type Pokemon, based on the following:
>There are several moves centered around love/attraction (Sweet Kiss, Charm, Attract, etc.) >Umbreon was the fourth Eeveelution and introduced the Dark-type, so since Slyptheon is the eighth, it may be a new type. >Internationally revealed on Valentine's Day >CoroCoro hinted at not being able to expect Slypheon's type >All Eeveelutions resist themselves, so Flying, Dragon, Ground and all other current typings would fail since they do not resist themselves (Bar Steel, but we've ruled that out) >Yancy, the Trainer from BW2 that poses as Nat'es "love interest" has a very similar design to Slypheon. Thoughts? |
A Love Type? I'm not sure about that. Though... it can be interesting.
Eh, honestly, I don't think the moves in the video tell us very much about it's typing anyway. It gives us barely any hints at all. The first move and third move are too ambiguous to draw any conclusions from (we can't even conclusively determine what type they are). Trump Card is a level up move for Eevee and distributed seemingly at random, and Swift (if it's Swift) is widely distributed to Pokemon of all types, including Espeon by level up and all the other Eevolutions by Move tutor in HGSS and Emerald. It using those moves doesn't necessarily even mean they're in its own natural movepool and even if we did know that for sure it wouldn't tell us much. |
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I'm thinking that it'll be Flying, as it's the Pokemon version of Wind as can be seen with Tornadus who is pure flying and is based on the Kami of Wind. |
I doubt the actual incorporation of "Love" as a typing, but who knows? One of the big motifs behind X/Y is bonding with your Pokemon, so maybe it will be a new typing to signify this deeper bond?
As for the moves Slyveon used, I'm gonna say the first move was Last Resort (Another level-up move for Eons) and the third move...well, I have no idea. EDIT: Here's the image about the "Love" Type https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582616_339651486140336_1876734508_n.jpg |
I still see ghost and I just can't shake it. When I look at the magazine picture with sylveon in front with mouth open and the fangs....
The color is so very pale compared to the others - ghost The blank stare in her eyes The fangs.... Really? Do you see fangs on any of the others? If it was flying I think the videos would show a hover animation or ... Just something.. The ribbons remind me of a ghost or spirit or the like I would really hope if they ever do a flying type it actually has some kind of cute wings. |
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Virtually any unused type is an option.
I can see Ghost in the aspect that Slyeon represents a happy spirit that is glad to be free. It'd be a nice change to the mischievous, darker images of Ghost-types. Would love for it to be "Love" or "Emotion" or some new type though. The idea's stuck to me. |
I honestly see more Skyla than Yancy in Sylveon.
I mean, if they add an entirely new type, I'd imagine they'd have to go back and re-type a lot of pokemon, no? |
I see a bit of both.
And, not necessarily. They could re-type, or simply say that the new typing is unique to the new region due to climate/geography/mystical things. |
Well only one of Kanto's was retyped, they could keep the others the same, even if they do have aspects which scream out "Love" or "Emotion" they don't necessary have to be changed, after all not all Dragon looking pokemon are dragon, and Eeletrik isn't part water despite it having a space available.
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I figured if any of the eeveelutions had fangs it would be umbreon. Which just makes me say ghost even more :p
I do know what you mean about tying in the ghost type with the present types. I hope they don't drag this out for too long I am really curious!! |
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Now, what would it be weak/strong against? I'm gonna say: Weak to: Electric, Dark, and Psychic...Maybe Fighting. Why? Emotions can be altered via electroshock therapy. Malicious intentions screw up emotions, overthinking messes with emotions, and domestic abuse. Strong against: Normal, Dark, Psychic Why? Cuz "Normal" people/animals are affected by emotion, "Love" conquers all, and the heart wants what the heart wants. Meh, cliches all around, but it could work. |
I was thinking Love/Light to have a type advantage against Fighting, have a resistance to Fire, Fighting, and its own type, and have a type disadvantage from Dark, Poison, and Electric (was also thinking of adding Ice, but that'll give it too many weaknesses).
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I'm actually happy with Sylveon now, if it ends up being Flying typing. It's ears. they are a bit wing-like so that would work. I know not all Flying types have wings but you'd expect an Eevee to adapt some, grow from its back.
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Personally, when I first saw it my gut instinct was Normal. It just screams normal through the colouring and design (having a cute-sy look to it.) However, I must admit from what I've read I'm being to doubt myself. I think Flying and Ghost both seem quite likely also. :) I just have no idea haha. Also, guys, what about evolution? I know, I know. It's type hasn't been introduced yet. But do you think, based upon its design, it'll maybe be a female-exclusive Eeveelution? And, following on from this, we know they like to release pairs of Eeveelutions. Do you think a more masculine Eeveelution is around the corner? :o Just something that's been on my mind. |
"Love type".
No. Just...please, no. |
Love type is very interesting! Perhaps rather than being a love-type it evolves through a heart scale, so to tie in with the Valentines thing? (Though that find is v interesting that it's on V-Day!)
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It's crazy that more people support and show interest in a Love type than a Light type... I'm certain that whatever way it goes I'll be disappointed with it's design and concept. It just doesn't look like anything and doesn't fit in with the other Eeveelutions with that awkward head and huge eyes.
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The idea of a new love or emotion type... I've made up my mind that's what I think it is. The new friendship system, all the facts in that little box.. it just seems too perfect not to be true. I'm probably really wrong and it's actually steel type or something, but whatever.
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If it weren't for the typing 'circle' that was brought up, we probably wouldn't have a real clue as to what it could be. We've all come up with how it could look like a Flying type, a Ghost, a Normal type, or a Female version of it's type(whatever that is) among other suggestions. Who's to say that GF isn't having a little fun with us as well? How would we all feel if they made other reveals to sway us away from what it really is(if it isn't a new type) and then 'BAM!'...it turns out to be what we figured before? Pretty crazy but more than likely would have a good laugh still because it would be what we had thought all along. Surprises can work like that you know. Who knows, maybe they figured its look could mean different things and wanted to see what we think it looks like before officially revealing it. EDIT: With all of this 'Love' type talk, maybe two previous Pokemon who could switch over/add it on would be Luvdisc and Alomomola? :P |
In terms of types....is it possible that they might split Flying into:
Flying and Wind types? I think there's a fakemon website where some of the fakemon they create have the wind type. (Pokefactory) The Wind type fakemon are able to manipulate wind but they can't fly (at least not traditionally with wings) or use bird-like moves. |
I'm sorry, but unless Game Freak announce a new type, I just can't see it happening. I think Sylveon will be Bug, Dragon or Flying type.
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So it's not Ninfeon anymore but it's Sylveon? What does the prefix "Sylv" derive from? I still think Sylveon's a Normal-type, it has alot of Normal-type characteristics, although in some art it shows it flying using its ribbons, so it could also be a Flying-type. That would make it only the second Pokémon to be a pure Flying-type, next to Tornadus. Some thing it's ridiculous for it to be a Normal-type since Eevee is already Normal, but Eevee could still evolve into a Normal-type, thus covering 8 of the 17 types. I don't see any Bug, Fighting or Dragon characteristics, so that's out of the picture for me (although Altaria, a bird, is a Dragon/Flying type, so looks can be deceiving). Eevee has not evolved into a dual type yet, so maybe Sylveon is but we'll have to wait and see.
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Well, the majority of flying types have a dual Normal typing anyway, so to give Sylveon only one type being Flying would make it the only non-legendary Pokemon to be pure Flying which would be pretty neat IMO, they're long overdue IMo.
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But it looks like it could easily be Flying or Normal, and because of that it could just follow the old pattern. The only way to break said pattern is if it's a new type or a dual type of anything else. ;( Normal/Flying wouldn't really imo.
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I think a dual type of any kind would break the chain, each eeveelution has a specific stand alone type so to give Sylveon any combination would be a change regardless. I also don't see any benefits from slapping on an extra Normal type assuming its primary typing is Flying.
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It could always be a fighting type and whip people like Meinshao does.
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I have a nice video of Sylveon in battle from X & Y - It uses Trump Card, Focus Blast (I think) and Swift and some sort of dark-coloured stat affecting move I can't identify. What if Sylveon is a powered-up Normal type evolution for Eevee? It would be nice for that Adaptability attribute which Eevee has to be passed onto something with a bit of kick. |
Maybe the love theme is pretty strong in Sylveon, as posted above. It might be a new type, or it might be an old, but either way, maybe it will be a running theme. It can be pretty love-themed without being of the "love/emotion" type (emotion for more applicability), seeing as its ability can reflect most traits GameFreak care to give it. We all know Primeape is notoriously angry, and thus it has Anger Point and Vital Spirit as its abilities. Slaking is lazy, with Truant (and moves like Slack off and Yawn). Dragonite is said to be able to control the weather, and thus gets almost all the weather moves in the game, and so on. Even without restorting to a new type, GameFreak can make Sylveon pretty love-ey.
A Love-type seems like an interesting idea, but it would be very hard to make type matchups that would make sense with it, bar against Dark-type (and maybe Steel-type - as machines don't feel emotions, but this is very debatable as Magnezone FEELS emotions according to its PokéDex entry). Then again, A Love type would be a good replacement for a Light type, though I can't imagine what types it could hit super-effectively, or not very effectively, or what it would resist or be weak to. Speaking of which, imagine if they changed the Attract mechanics so that it could affect same-sex Pokémon. It would be an act of respect from Game Freak to recognize that homosexuality is natural and that gay couples should have their rights recognized, Although Game Freak would possibly have problems with the Church. Quote:
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They ride the wind - I believe some made the connection between the bows and scarfs with kites, which would make sense as kites can "ride the wind". They're slender and graceful - The lightest Eeveelution. Large glistening eyes - Sylveon has massive blue eyes. Butterflies - Some people thought the bows looked like butterflies, and this is where they could come in. I think there are more definitions of Sylphs which... I'll check out. Again, maybe knowing the origin of this mon can give us a hint towards its stat spread? Sylphs are described as moving as fast as lightning, and they befriend and protect other flying creatures. Perhaps a fast, defensive Flying type? Something along the lines of 65/60/110/65/95/130, though more HP would be nice. And just an extra: if Sylphs move as fast as lightning, and Jolteon is an Electric type, it's possible that Sylveon will have the same speed as Jolteon. I'm actually more interested on how it evolves. Maybe this is a stretch but: Spoiler:
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I wonder if Smash will reveal the typing tomorrow? They heavily hinted at the Eeveelutuons for next weeks preview (last week) and with CoroCoro being the first to reveal Sylveon, they could just give us a little more infomation..
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