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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 13th, 2013 3:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7537267)
I think Gamefreak showed with 5th gen that the Battle Frontier itself isn't a staple of the series, but a competitive battling facility is. I personally hope to see something in the spirit of the Frontier, but which isn't a clone of the 3rd gen Frontier. Just because people didn't like the Subway much, doesn't mean they shouldn't keep experimenting.

I want to see a facility with the "face" of the new region. Just cloning the Frontier would be wrong IMO.

I think it'll be nice if they didn't copy it, I wished that HgSs would've had it's own unique facility oppose to copying Pt's.

I hope we get some news on the new features of the games next issue.

Cerberus87 February 13th, 2013 4:04 PM

Back to Ninfia. Usually I wouldn't be much concerned about a new type, but it's quite telling that one of the first Pokémon announced was an eeveelution. Why would they do that? And why would they design something which has nothing to do with the current types? I don't think it looks like it can fly, and it doesn't look like a bug either. They seem to make a big deal about the typing, too, since they're not revealing it, whereas with Leafeon and Glaceon the typing was a given. I'm starting to believe it's a new type, but I don't know what it could be. I'm fairly sure it won't be a "Light" type. It might be translated this way, though.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 13th, 2013 4:14 PM

I find it interesting how they haven't revealed the types of any of the new pokemon beyond the starters which are obvious. I thought they were going to reveal the types of the Mascots yet they've been keeping it a secret with another secretive pokemon introduced...maybe it is a new type and all three share it.

voicerocker February 13th, 2013 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7537296)
Back to Ninfia. Usually I wouldn't be much concerned about a new type, but it's quite telling that one of the first Pokémon announced was an eeveelution. Why would they do that? And why would they design something which has nothing to do with the current types? I don't think it looks like it can fly, and it doesn't look like a bug either. They seem to make a big deal about the typing, too, since they're not revealing it, whereas with Leafeon and Glaceon the typing was a given. I'm starting to believe it's a new type, but I don't know what it could be. I'm fairly sure it won't be a "Light" type. It might be translated this way, though.

If I remember right, Reshiram's and Zekrom's types weren't revealed when they were either, and that started the whole Zekrom = Dark type, Reshiram = Light type thing. I don't think we're getting a new type, probably ever. It was 1999 (I think) when we got new types last, this is 2013. I feel like we would have gotten a new type by now if there were plans to introduce more over time.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 13th, 2013 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7537377)
That's if there are going to be remakes. :x Not to be joykill or anything like that, but given these games we have no idea whether or not R/S/E remakes would even be made.

Another thing I'm excited for are what new items are going to be introduced in these games~! n_n Even though it's for competitive reasons but items are interesting nonetheless!

Also, new types of Pokeballs would be nice. :3

Right, new pokeballs. I enjoyed the one's introduced in generation IV but was disappointed that generation V had none. Maybe the next issue could show case the new pokemon coming out of new pokeballs.
I do wonder how the animations will look when they come out...I don't beleive they showed them emerging in the trailer.

Arlo February 13th, 2013 5:03 PM

Regarding Ninfia - for a combination of reasons, I think it's going to be Dragon type.

Why, you might ask, would they make a cute, pink dragon type with bows? To highlight the new friendship mechanic they hinted at. The pokemon's happiness is apparently going to have an effect beyond simply triggering evolution or establishing the base power of Return. And what better way to introduce that mechanic than with an Eeveelution (one of the most popular lines of pokemon in the games) that's a Dragon type (probably the overall most popular type)? I predict that it will not only be Dragon type, but will have just about the best possible Eevee stat spread, so it will potentially be a VERY effective battler, BUT... only if you love it and take care of it. And with that face, who could resist?

'course, I could be partly wrong, mostly wrong or entirely wrong, but that's what I'm thinking at the moment...

Superfox February 13th, 2013 7:53 PM

So, is Ninfia all we're getting for the week?
 
Seriously? No starter evolutions? No background on the legendaries? No new Pokémon? Just another Eeveelution?

Don't get me wrong, its a good piece of news, but not enough for me to chew for a few more months. When are we finally going to see the starter evolutions?? That's what I wanna know.

WarriorCat February 13th, 2013 7:56 PM

It seems like this is all we're getting this month.
Just like past games, they will give a little more info on the games every month in Corocoro, which the scans start coming during the middle of the month.

Killjoy February 13th, 2013 7:59 PM

For this week? I doubt we'll be getting more for a while. This is only the second round of info so far, and it's been a while, so there's nothing suggesting we're getting any more soon. Mind you we could very well get some more.

I don't even remember how they delt out info the the older generations lol It does seem wierd, the lack of info we have

Pinta77 February 13th, 2013 8:02 PM

Ninfia looks so much like victini it isn't even funny

Xander Olivieri February 13th, 2013 8:03 PM

You do realize that we could have had absolutely nothing in exchange for the Eevee Evolution. We don't have to have any news until we get closer to October. So even a little bit is nice.

PrimalDialgasaur February 13th, 2013 8:23 PM

This is extremely random, but after watching Pokemon Ranger:Temple of the Sea just
now, I realized, we have never had a dolphin Pokemon! And they are like the symbols of the sea. (Yeah we have had whales, turtles, sharks, and numerous fish, but no dolphins? What??) maybe they might make one for Gen 6? And coro coro scans are due on Friday, right?

(Edit) Yeah, Kyogre is an orca whale (which is the largest member of the dolphin family) but its not really a dolphin.

PrimalDialgasaur February 13th, 2013 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7537972)
I did find it kind of strange that there are no dolphins made as of yet. u_u;; Hopefully one would be revealed within the next CoroCoro issue, maybe? Doubtful, but anything could happen, really.

Hopefully! Maybe it would be Psy/Water? (Dolphins being extremely smart and all.)

PrimalDialgasaur February 13th, 2013 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7537981)
Would be kind of a good counterpart to Sharpedo, who's Dark/Water, but Sharpedo would kind of have an unfair edge here. :(

True... Maybe be able to learn solar beam or something? Idk. Dolphins usually daylight creatures, having to come up for air.

halcyonic February 13th, 2013 11:09 PM

but how in the world would a dolphin be able to use solarbeam, id be laughing so hardly if it could do so

or they could make it clamperl-evo-like - either evolve into a water/psychic or water/fighting, depending on your choice

alisaie February 13th, 2013 11:10 PM

If they make a Dolphin Pokemon I would finally be able to die happy or something. I've been wanting a Dolphin Pokemon for years now. One of my initial disappointments with the Fifth Gen after they showed all the Pokemon was that they didn't make a Dolphin. I do not want to be disappointed again.

roosterman February 13th, 2013 11:20 PM

i just want the typing, thats all i ask, didn't that show say we would get more news today?

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire February 13th, 2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7537913)
You do realize that we could have had absolutely nothing in exchange for the Eevee Evolution. We don't have to have any news until we get closer to October. So even a little bit is nice.

I agree with this. Although, I do find it odd that they just give us this, six Pokemon, no typing for any of them and only weight and height for Xerneas and Yveltal. I find that odd, but some information is better than none.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire February 14th, 2013 12:01 AM

I wonder if they are against it because it could create controversy with the whole Japanese whale and dolphin killing thing. That's a pretty heavy topic right there. But we have Wailord, so I don't see why not. In my opinion though, a dolphin Pokemon would be hard to get right. I see it turning out looking very weird, but I'd embrace it if they got it right. On the Ninfia topic, I'm putting my money on it being flying. That looks a hell of a lot like Skyla and I could see it becoming her signature Pokemon.

Xander Olivieri February 14th, 2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by roosterman (Post 7538151)
i just want the typing, thats all i ask, didn't that show say we would get more news today?

What show? We only get News two major ways in Japan, during the Sunday Episodes of Pokemon Smash (Saturday afternoons for Americans) and on or around the 15th of every month when the Coro Coro Scans are released.

There aren't any other schedueled news releases other than this. Internationally we have to wait for one of these to align and watch Pokemon's Twitter/Pokemon.com to see if we get the international version of it. We still have 2 days to see if the Coro Coro leak is japanese exclusive (which is possible seeing as its more Movie related than game related with Ninfia headlining the Pikachu Short with Eevee.) If we don't get any info on Ninfia for English viewers by the 15th than its Japanese exclusive release.

vaporeon7 February 14th, 2013 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MidnightShine (Post 7538135)
but how in the world would a dolphin be able to use solarbeam, id be laughing so hardly if it could do so

or they could make it clamperl-evo-like - either evolve into a water/psychic or water/fighting, depending on your choice

I wouldn't mind something like that actually, maybe not those typings though.

Garoucher February 14th, 2013 2:03 AM

I think Ninfia will be Dragon type. Sounds a little weird, but come on, Vibrava is also Dragon Type.

SolarAbusoru February 14th, 2013 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Garoucher (Post 7538303)
I think Ninfia will be Dragon type. Sounds a little weird, but come on, Vibrava is also Dragon Type.

Vibrava is based on a 'Dragonfly', hence why it's Dragon type, so that reasoning doesn't really work.

If anything it will most likely be flying due to the kite-tail ribbons.

skyluigi2 February 14th, 2013 5:13 AM

Here's a random idea; its' official name is Sylveon, so what if it was Steel-type? Sylv? Silver?
...Maybe not. In my opinion, it's either Bug- or Flying-type.

blue February 14th, 2013 5:28 AM

Ok, I've just read Serebii and it's Sylveon huh? I like that name and it's kind of giving off a silver/steel feel to the name but judging by it's appearance I wouldn't class it as a steel type.. hmm.

Moxxy February 14th, 2013 5:32 AM

I feel like sylveon is
 
A ghost type, anyone else? I mean she's very pastel, the fangs, the eyes, ghosts can be cutesy right?
Anyone with me? I'm no expert on attacks in any way but they also led me to think this, even though I have no idea what's what.

What are your thoughts on typing?

François February 14th, 2013 5:36 AM

Sylveon -> Sylph and "Sylphs are female and are almost transparent. They're slender and graceful, with large glistening eyes and huge wings".

That to me seems like a fairly strong endorsement of this being the Flying type Eeveelution.

Mithel_Celestia February 14th, 2013 5:46 AM

Clue: Ninfia is considered the lightest eeveelution. Though not the lightest Pokemon, but the light weightness could provide a clue. Flying comes to mind, maybe some way of flight, I picture Sylveon could create wings made of energy. Imagine Sylveon with feather wings, it would look very cool.

Miss Doronjo February 14th, 2013 5:50 AM

Corocoro mentioned that that more secrets will be revealed about it next month. Sooo that will be the new addition. Any hopes? Maybe it's typing will be revealed? Or maybe how to actually evolve Eevee to it?

Ho-Oh February 14th, 2013 5:53 AM

I like the English name, and that it likely hints towards Flying-type Eeveelution. If that's trueee then I wonder why they decided on only flying??

But ya, I think next month we'll definitely get its typing, and perhaps details about an event involving it maybe...?

SolarAbusoru February 14th, 2013 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by François (Post 7538420)
Sylveon -> Sylph and "Sylphs are female and are almost transparent. They're slender and graceful, with large glistening eyes and huge wings".

That to me seems like a fairly strong endorsement of this being the Flying type Eeveelution.

I had the same idea, Sylv could only mean Sylph and Sylphs are beings of the air, so it's one of the biggest pieces of evidence that it'd end up as a flying type.

Xander Olivieri February 14th, 2013 8:22 AM

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Originally Posted by François (Post 7538420)
Sylveon -> Sylph and "Sylphs are female and are almost transparent. They're slender and graceful, with large glistening eyes and huge wings".

That to me seems like a fairly strong endorsement of this being the Flying type Eeveelution.

Thats not all true. Slyphs can be male as they have no real gender. They are spirits that use wind to construct their bodies and are usually feminine by looks but fan take male forms. Though they are really genderless spiritual constructs.

I am agreeing that Sylveon has a good chance of being Flying now, but still have to wit for confirmation.

Mujahid February 14th, 2013 8:31 AM

If it DOES end up being Flying type, i would be disappointed. Yes, it's the lightest eevelution but not my much. Neither does it have a very aerodynamic Body shape.4 ribbons can't lift 23 kgs.

Spinosaurus February 14th, 2013 8:38 AM

So wait, are the bow tie and ribbons coming from its flesh? It sure looks like it and that's plain creepy.

What a soulless design, borderline terrible. Then again I suppose that's what you should expect from an Eevee evolution.

Guy February 14th, 2013 8:44 AM

Given the English name, which is pretty awesome by the way, I think it's looking more and more likely that Sylveon will be a Flying type. With the Sylph connection, does anyone think the long ribbons were inspired from the Sylph Hummingbird?



Also, we've got some footage.


Schwan February 14th, 2013 9:15 AM

I like that idea. I'd love for it to be a Ghost. The shiny can be purple maybe.

Also, this is gonna get moved to the CoroCoro discussion thread.

Nick February 14th, 2013 10:26 AM

oh my god, what if it is? the move at :15 could be aerial ace!!

Keiran February 14th, 2013 10:35 AM

It's Trump Card, actually.

PlatinumDude February 14th, 2013 10:41 AM

I dig "Sylveon". I have no idea what the first attack was, but the next two were most definitely Trump Card and Swift.

Keiran February 14th, 2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7538678)
I dig "Sylveon". I have no idea what the first attack was, but the next two were most definitely Trump Card and Swift.

It looked like focus blast, not sure though. I'm curious what that third move was though. It looks like it's charging up Zap Cannon but it just stops.

Rivvon February 14th, 2013 11:31 AM

Wow, that actually would explain the eyes and fangs! And its elegance could make it vampire-based. Not sure how the name ties in with it (well, it would tie in with Nynfia), but that's not a bad interpretation at all! I'm definitely keeping that on my possibilities list.

Garoucher February 14th, 2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7538312)
Vibrava is based on a 'Dragonfly', hence why it's Dragon type, so that reasoning doesn't really work.

I didn't know that. But that makes sense. I should have searched that but since that is a lot of Pokémons with weird types, I thought that Vibrava was just more one. But thanks for informing me. ;)
Anyway, I think Sylveon will not be dragon type but yes, flying type due to the prefix. Like the others prefixes of olders eeveelotuions resemble to something, "Sylph", in this case, resembles to the air.
I think that isn't more anything to argue about this.

Ace. February 14th, 2013 12:14 PM

Sylveon doesn't look like a ghost type to me. It looks like a normal type. But I think it will be a flying type because lots of people are also saying it'll be a flying type c; I don't think it'll be a light type because err.. I just don't want a light type c;

blue February 14th, 2013 1:47 PM

I think it fits in well in terms of design with the other Eeveelutions, I was slightly skeptical at first but I'm really warming to it now! Especially after finding out it's English translated name. Plus, the Eeveelution count is at a nice rounded figure now.

http://images.vg247.com/current//2013/02/Eevee_Evoli_Graphic_EN-545x600.jpg

Mark Kamill February 14th, 2013 2:05 PM

Why is the pic lined up for super effective and weakness equality? Don't tell me Sylveon is flying...

Guy February 14th, 2013 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7538913)
Why is the pic lined up for super effective and weakness equality? Don't tell me Sylveon is flying...

It's funny you mention that, because I noticed this earlier. It definitely supports the idea of Sylveon being Flying, since Water is already taken.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff98522426bd9972055fc929d98d8686/tumblr_mi82wwWXyL1s2kalqo1_1280.jpg

RedWing February 14th, 2013 2:24 PM

EDIT: Nevermind...

I'd love for Sylveon to be Flying, personally. I'm just curious as to how it will evolve. Will it be location-based? Or maybe the first trade Eeveelution?

C Payne February 14th, 2013 2:34 PM

That short trailer and the flowing ribbons is only convincing me more and more that it is a Flying-type(along with the Sylph talk) and it's just too friggin' adorable that I have to finally admit it.


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Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7538689)
It looked like focus blast, not sure though. I'm curious what that third move was though. It looks like it's charging up Zap Cannon but it just stops.

Yeah the first move definitely looks like Focus Blast. As for the third one, maybe Focus Energy? Or I guess it could be a new move altogether, it doesn't have a resemblance of any current move that really sticks out.

blue February 14th, 2013 2:41 PM

By that logic it could easily be reversed, meaning Sylveon is Super Effective against Jolteon which makes it a Ground Type, something that hasn't been used either.

HyperXhydra February 14th, 2013 2:58 PM

It's most probably a flying type, but after I saw the trailer I think it's a normal type.

François February 14th, 2013 3:00 PM

Yeah but that thing, a Ground pokémon?

Miss Doronjo February 14th, 2013 3:30 PM

Arguably I could say that it "doesn't" look like a ground pokemon, and I'm still betting on it to be flying, but, maybe the next issue will tell.

Guy February 14th, 2013 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7538958)
By that logic it could easily be reversed, meaning Sylveon is Super Effective against Jolteon which makes it a Ground Type, something that hasn't been used either.

While that's true, even if GameFreak is trying to go for a more ambiguous design with Sylveon, I highly doubt that it's going to end up being a Ground type. I would picture something just a little bit more earthly than that even if the possibility is there.

Irish Chameleon February 14th, 2013 4:06 PM

After the moves it used the only 2 sticking out to me are normal and flying.

Each eeveelution has their own distinct visual traits sticking them out, umbreon with hoops, glaceon with the glacier earring looking things, leafeon with the leafs, jolteon with the spikes and so on.

It's clear that Sylveons are tassles, or ribbons and bows. Which in a sense reminds me of chimecho family nd Jirachi, all pokemon which can fly and float. The pink look of the pokemon still makes it seem like a normal type though, fitting in with the puffs and clefs.

I'm stil not sure, I'll place my wager on flying though, which would be slightly weird to see a 4 legged pokemon just flying in the air :L

C Payne February 14th, 2013 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7538958)
By that logic it could easily be reversed, meaning Sylveon is Super Effective against Jolteon which makes it a Ground Type, something that hasn't been used either.

Now you're just talking crazy, haha.

We all know that it would look more, as Aerilyn says, earthy if it were really a ground type. So far they have managed to give each Eeveelution a look that fits it's type really well, this doesn't look even remotely close to a ground type.

blue February 14th, 2013 4:21 PM

It's just how they're currently portraying it, they've highlighted that they are keeping the typing a secret which may imply that it is ambiguous. If it was going to be something predictable by the appearance, they wouldn't bother keeping it a secret at all. Plus, an earthy design would be far too similar to Leafeon IMO. There are the odd few Pokemon who don't look remotely close to their typing too.

thedestinedblade February 14th, 2013 4:53 PM

When I heard Sylveon as being the English name, I immediately thought of Sylph. Don't much about mythology but in the Tales of series they're almost always associated with wind. :laugh: So I'll stick with it being a flying-type.

Still see Victini when I see it's face, lol.

Pinkie-Dawn February 14th, 2013 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7538935)
It's funny you mention that, because I noticed this earlier. It definitely supports the idea of Sylveon being Flying, since Water is already taken.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff98522426bd9972055fc929d98d8686/tumblr_mi82wwWXyL1s2kalqo1_1280.jpg

Judging by the image, it could be these following:

- If Sylveon is a Flying type, then Jolteon has the advantage
- If Sylveon is a new type, then either the type itself has the advantage against Electric or is weak to Electric.

Miss Doronjo February 14th, 2013 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Icebloom (Post 7539113)
When I heard Sylveon as being the English name, I immediately thought of Sylph. Don't much about mythology but in the Tales of series they're almost always associated with wind. :laugh: So I'll stick with it being a flying-type.

Still see Victini when I see it's face, lol.

Yeah that's what I thought too~! Sylph is a wind spirit in the Tales games, which sorta associate it with wind or Flying! Other than that, Sylphs are generally related to air or wind from alchemy. So, I'm betting it'll be a flying type as well.

Hm... thinking about it, the colors of it are quite intriguing. I mean, noticed that the colors are not exactly monochrome like the rest of the eeveelutions (well, maybe kind of barring Leafeon) that sorta represent their type? Well, maybe it's something minor, but, I see it very unique compared to the rest of the eeveelutions, if anything. It can be a very interesting flying type if it turns out to be one.

Xander Olivieri February 14th, 2013 6:53 PM

Majority of Wind based attacks aren't flying type. I'll have to get a full count when I'm on a computor, but right off the top of my head, Silver Wind (bug), Icy Wind (ice), Ominous Wind (ghost), Gust (flying), Hurricane (flying), Whirlwind (normal), and Razor Wind (normal). These I remember right off as definate wind based attacks. Going to look up the others if there are others, but my point wind =/= flying in every aspect.

So Sylveon being wind doesn't mean its guaranteed Flying. They can sneak in another type pretty easily.

My only question is: If the moves in the trailer were Focus Blast, Swift, Trump Card, and Future Sight, can Eevee and its evolutions learn all four? The evolutions and Eevee are usually very limited in their move pools due to Eevee's ability to have a large number of evolutions. I can't see it learning Focus Blast and Future sight if its Flying.

Yamiidenryuu February 14th, 2013 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7539228)
Majority of Wind based attacks aren't flying type. I'll have to get a full count when I'm on a computor, but right off the top of my head, Silver Wind (bug), Icy Wind (ice), Ominous Wind (ghost), Gust (flying), Hurricane (flying), Whirlwind (normal), and Razor Wind (normal). These I remember right off as definate wind based attacks. Going to look up the others if there are others, but my point wind =/= flying in every aspect.

Of those, Silver Wind, Ominous Wind and Icy Wind are non-flying for the same reason Fire Punch and its relatives are non-fighting: To allow Pokemon of a certain type access to types of attacks it might not get otherwise. Also, you forgot Aeroblast, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Defog, and Tailwind.

RedWing February 14th, 2013 7:05 PM

There is one rather mad theory I found on Instagram suggesting Sylpheon will be the first "Love" Type Pokemon, based on the following:

>There are several moves centered around love/attraction (Sweet Kiss, Charm, Attract, etc.)
>Umbreon was the fourth Eeveelution and introduced the Dark-type, so since Slyptheon is the eighth, it may be a new type.
>Internationally revealed on Valentine's Day
>CoroCoro hinted at not being able to expect Slypheon's type
>All Eeveelutions resist themselves, so Flying, Dragon, Ground and all other current typings would fail since they do not resist themselves (Bar Steel, but we've ruled that out)
>Yancy, the Trainer from BW2 that poses as Nat'es "love interest" has a very similar design to Slypheon.

Thoughts?

Miss Doronjo February 14th, 2013 7:15 PM

A Love Type? I'm not sure about that. Though... it can be interesting.

Eh, honestly, I don't think the moves in the video tell us very much about it's typing anyway. It gives us barely any hints at all. The first move and third move are too ambiguous to draw any conclusions from (we can't even conclusively determine what type they are). Trump Card is a level up move for Eevee and distributed seemingly at random, and Swift (if it's Swift) is widely distributed to Pokemon of all types, including Espeon by level up and all the other Eevolutions by Move tutor in HGSS and Emerald. It using those moves doesn't necessarily even mean they're in its own natural movepool and even if we did know that for sure it wouldn't tell us much.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 14th, 2013 7:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWing (Post 7539232)
There is one rather mad theory I found on Instagram suggesting Sylpheon will be the first "Love" Type Pokemon, based on the following:

>There are several moves centered around love/attraction (Sweet Kiss, Charm, Attract, etc.)
>Umbreon was the fourth Eeveelution and introduced the Dark-type, so since Slyptheon is the eighth, it may be a new type.
>Internationally revealed on Valentine's Day
>CoroCoro hinted at not being able to expect Slypheon's type
>All Eeveelutions resist themselves, so Flying, Dragon, Ground and all other current typings would fail since they do not resist themselves (Bar Steel, but we've ruled that out)
>Yancy, the Trainer from BW2 that poses as Nat'es "love interest" has a very similar design to Slypheon.

Thoughts?

Love type? Personally I'll perfer a Fairie type, light type, sound type, and digital type over a love type...maybe call it emotion type instead.

I'm thinking that it'll be Flying, as it's the Pokemon version of Wind as can be seen with Tornadus who is pure flying and is based on the Kami of Wind.

RedWing February 14th, 2013 7:29 PM

I doubt the actual incorporation of "Love" as a typing, but who knows? One of the big motifs behind X/Y is bonding with your Pokemon, so maybe it will be a new typing to signify this deeper bond?

As for the moves Slyveon used, I'm gonna say the first move was Last Resort (Another level-up move for Eons) and the third move...well, I have no idea.

EDIT: Here's the image about the "Love" Type

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582616_339651486140336_1876734508_n.jpg

Moxxy February 14th, 2013 7:33 PM

I still see ghost and I just can't shake it. When I look at the magazine picture with sylveon in front with mouth open and the fangs....

The color is so very pale compared to the others - ghost
The blank stare in her eyes
The fangs.... Really? Do you see fangs on any of the others?
If it was flying I think the videos would show a hover animation or ... Just something..
The ribbons remind me of a ghost or spirit or the like

I would really hope if they ever do a flying type it actually has some kind of cute wings.

Miss Doronjo February 14th, 2013 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Moxxy (Post 7539259)
I still see ghost and I just can't shake it. When I look at the magazine picture with sylveon in front with mouth open and the fangs....

The color is so very pale compared to the others - ghost
The blank stare in her eyes
The fangs.... Really? Do you see fangs on any of the others?
If it was flying I think the videos would show a hover animation or ... Just something..
The ribbons remind me of a ghost or spirit or the like

I would really hope if they ever do a flying type it actually has some kind of cute wings.

Actually, if you look closely, some the Eeveelutions do have fangs, like Umbreon here:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123165535/pokemon/images/1/13/Gary's_Umbreon_Shadow_Ball.jpg

Ghost can certainly be an option out there too, but, then, I think it becomes the question of, "how does its typing relate to the other eeveelutions in a way?" Well... if that makes sense. But Ghost can still be an option for it.

RedWing February 14th, 2013 7:43 PM

Virtually any unused type is an option.

I can see Ghost in the aspect that Slyeon represents a happy spirit that is glad to be free. It'd be a nice change to the mischievous, darker images of Ghost-types.

Would love for it to be "Love" or "Emotion" or some new type though. The idea's stuck to me.

thedestinedblade February 14th, 2013 7:44 PM

I honestly see more Skyla than Yancy in Sylveon.

I mean, if they add an entirely new type, I'd imagine they'd have to go back and re-type a lot of pokemon, no?

RedWing February 14th, 2013 7:48 PM

I see a bit of both.

And, not necessarily. They could re-type, or simply say that the new typing is unique to the new region due to climate/geography/mystical things.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 14th, 2013 7:59 PM

Well only one of Kanto's was retyped, they could keep the others the same, even if they do have aspects which scream out "Love" or "Emotion" they don't necessary have to be changed, after all not all Dragon looking pokemon are dragon, and Eeletrik isn't part water despite it having a space available.

Moxxy February 14th, 2013 8:01 PM

I figured if any of the eeveelutions had fangs it would be umbreon. Which just makes me say ghost even more :p

I do know what you mean about tying in the ghost type with the present types.

I hope they don't drag this out for too long I am really curious!!

RedWing February 14th, 2013 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7539288)
Well only one of Kanto's was retyped, they could keep the others the same, even if they do have aspects which scream out "Love" or "Emotion" they don't necessary have to be changed, after all not all Dragon looking pokemon are dragon, and Eeletrik isn't part water despite it having a space available.

Precisely.

Now, what would it be weak/strong against?

I'm gonna say:

Weak to: Electric, Dark, and Psychic...Maybe Fighting.

Why? Emotions can be altered via electroshock therapy. Malicious intentions screw up emotions, overthinking messes with emotions, and domestic abuse.

Strong against: Normal, Dark, Psychic

Why? Cuz "Normal" people/animals are affected by emotion, "Love" conquers all, and the heart wants what the heart wants.

Meh, cliches all around, but it could work.

Pinkie-Dawn February 14th, 2013 8:16 PM

I was thinking Love/Light to have a type advantage against Fighting, have a resistance to Fire, Fighting, and its own type, and have a type disadvantage from Dark, Poison, and Electric (was also thinking of adding Ice, but that'll give it too many weaknesses).

RedWing February 14th, 2013 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7539314)
I was thinking Love/Light to have a type advantage against Fighting, have a resistance to Fire, Fighting, and its own type, and have a type disadvantage from Dark, Poison, and Electric (was also thinking of adding Ice, but that'll give it too many weaknesses).

Why resistant to Fire?

I forgot resistances: Obviously resistant to itself, as well as resistant to Normal...that's all I can really see it resisting.

Pinkie-Dawn February 14th, 2013 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWing (Post 7539320)
Why resistant to Fire?

I forgot resistances: Obviously resistant to itself, as well as resistant to Normal...that's all I can really see it resisting.

Fire is usually associated with love; that's I gave it a Fire resistance.

Bluerang1 February 14th, 2013 8:26 PM

I'm actually happy with Sylveon now, if it ends up being Flying typing. It's ears. they are a bit wing-like so that would work. I know not all Flying types have wings but you'd expect an Eevee to adapt some, grow from its back.

I would prefer it to be Dragon though, it'd somehow explain the bows.

Superjub February 14th, 2013 8:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedWing (Post 7539255)
I doubt the actual incorporation of "Love" as a typing, but who knows? One of the big motifs behind X/Y is bonding with your Pokemon, so maybe it will be a new typing to signify this deeper bond?

As for the moves Slyveon used, I'm gonna say the first move was Last Resort (Another level-up move for Eons) and the third move...well, I have no idea.

EDIT: Here's the image about the "Love" Type

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582616_339651486140336_1876734508_n.jpg

I have to admit I too considered it being a new type, although in my case I was thinking the often speculated Light type. However, the idea of the love type sounds nice. :) A lot of the moves could have a chance to infatuate the Pokemon too. :) Having said that, I don't know, the Love type seems a bit too out there if you get what I mean. It kinda crosses into many different mechanics and elements (e.g.: Pokemon happiness) that I don't know if it could survive as a standalone type. Still an interesting theory. :)

Personally, when I first saw it my gut instinct was Normal. It just screams normal through the colouring and design (having a cute-sy look to it.) However, I must admit from what I've read I'm being to doubt myself. I think Flying and Ghost both seem quite likely also. :) I just have no idea haha.

Also, guys, what about evolution? I know, I know. It's type hasn't been introduced yet. But do you think, based upon its design, it'll maybe be a female-exclusive Eeveelution? And, following on from this, we know they like to release pairs of Eeveelutions. Do you think a more masculine Eeveelution is around the corner? :o Just something that's been on my mind.

marcc5m February 14th, 2013 8:44 PM

"Love type".

No. Just...please, no.

Ho-Oh February 14th, 2013 8:45 PM

Love type is very interesting! Perhaps rather than being a love-type it evolves through a heart scale, so to tie in with the Valentines thing? (Though that find is v interesting that it's on V-Day!)

Haza February 14th, 2013 9:08 PM

It's crazy that more people support and show interest in a Love type than a Light type... I'm certain that whatever way it goes I'll be disappointed with it's design and concept. It just doesn't look like anything and doesn't fit in with the other Eeveelutions with that awkward head and huge eyes.

Xander Olivieri February 14th, 2013 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamiidenryuu (Post 7539230)
Of those, Silver Wind, Ominous Wind and Icy Wind are non-flying for the same reason Fire Punch and its relatives are non-fighting: To allow Pokemon of a certain type access to types of attacks it might not get otherwise. Also, you forgot Aeroblast, Air Cutter, Air Slash, Defog, and Tailwind.

I said those were the ones I could Pull from memory. I also highly doubt the punch relation as few "Punching" attacks are Normal as well. As for the ones you listed, Aeroblast is a breath attack that is a Signature move for Lugia. Air Cutter isn't a wind based attack, but rather a forced shock wave that cuts through the air. Same with Air Slash. Tailwind is a Wind based attack for support. Ominous Wind and Silver Wind are also variations of Ancient Power so their relation isn't even that close to other Wind based attacks.

Golurks Were Meant to Fly February 14th, 2013 10:32 PM

The idea of a new love or emotion type... I've made up my mind that's what I think it is. The new friendship system, all the facts in that little box.. it just seems too perfect not to be true. I'm probably really wrong and it's actually steel type or something, but whatever.

But also, with all the eeveelutions so far, one could easily tell what type they were. With Sylveon, this seems less the case... but if it were Love type, then that WOULD be the case.

C Payne February 14th, 2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7539086)
It's just how they're currently portraying it, they've highlighted that they are keeping the typing a secret which may imply that it is ambiguous. If it was going to be something predictable by the appearance, they wouldn't bother keeping it a secret at all. Plus, an earthy design would be far too similar to Leafeon IMO. There are the odd few Pokemon who don't look remotely close to their typing too.

Eeveelutions aren't entirely like other Pokemon, design-wise, though. All of them so far have been closely related, look wise, to the type they represent. Earthy doesn't have to mean plants either, we're talking...I guess you can say dirty, as in you know, being associated more with dirt?(this is not implying I agree with it being a Ground type, I still highly doubt that) I'd sooner believe it's a new type(that's possibly weak to/strong against Electric types) than the Ground type.

If it weren't for the typing 'circle' that was brought up, we probably wouldn't have a real clue as to what it could be. We've all come up with how it could look like a Flying type, a Ghost, a Normal type, or a Female version of it's type(whatever that is) among other suggestions.

Who's to say that GF isn't having a little fun with us as well? How would we all feel if they made other reveals to sway us away from what it really is(if it isn't a new type) and then 'BAM!'...it turns out to be what we figured before? Pretty crazy but more than likely would have a good laugh still because it would be what we had thought all along. Surprises can work like that you know. Who knows, maybe they figured its look could mean different things and wanted to see what we think it looks like before officially revealing it.


EDIT: With all of this 'Love' type talk, maybe two previous Pokemon who could switch over/add it on would be Luvdisc and Alomomola? :P

Sabrewulf238 February 14th, 2013 11:41 PM

In terms of types....is it possible that they might split Flying into:

Flying and Wind types? I think there's a fakemon website where some of the fakemon they create have the wind type. (Pokefactory) The Wind type fakemon are able to manipulate wind but they can't fly (at least not traditionally with wings) or use bird-like moves.

skyluigi2 February 14th, 2013 11:52 PM

I'm sorry, but unless Game Freak announce a new type, I just can't see it happening. I think Sylveon will be Bug, Dragon or Flying type.

Ho-Oh February 15th, 2013 1:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7539501)
In terms of types....is it possible that they might split Flying into:

Flying and Wind types? I think there's a fakemon website where some of the fakemon they create have the wind type. (Pokefactory) The Wind type fakemon are able to manipulate wind but they can't fly (at least not traditionally with wings) or use bird-like moves.

I don't see them doing this just for Sylveon. :( It's an interesting idea but they've had Flying for so long, changing it up would be quite strange/hard to get used to, as opposed to Light type imo.

Also guys I was just thinking, Cinccino has a scarf attached to itself p much! So Sylveon's ribbons aren't as weird :3

CloysterOyster February 15th, 2013 1:07 AM

So it's not Ninfeon anymore but it's Sylveon? What does the prefix "Sylv" derive from? I still think Sylveon's a Normal-type, it has alot of Normal-type characteristics, although in some art it shows it flying using its ribbons, so it could also be a Flying-type. That would make it only the second Pokémon to be a pure Flying-type, next to Tornadus. Some thing it's ridiculous for it to be a Normal-type since Eevee is already Normal, but Eevee could still evolve into a Normal-type, thus covering 8 of the 17 types. I don't see any Bug, Fighting or Dragon characteristics, so that's out of the picture for me (although Altaria, a bird, is a Dragon/Flying type, so looks can be deceiving). Eevee has not evolved into a dual type yet, so maybe Sylveon is but we'll have to wait and see.

Not sure about this "Love" type, but the speculated Light type sounds good to me. Probably would see alot of the older Pokémon gain a secondary type with it, like Cleffa's evolutionary line and other fairy-looking Pokémon.

Ho-Oh February 15th, 2013 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CloysterOyster (Post 7539525)
So it's not Ninfeon anymore but it's Sylveon? What does the prefix "Sylv" derive from? I still think Sylveon's a Normal-type, it has alot of Normal-type characteristics, although in some art it shows it flying using its ribbons, so it could also be a Flying-type. That would make it only the second Pokémon to be a pure Flying-type, next to Tornadus. Some thing it's ridiculous for it to be a Normal-type since Eevee is already Normal, but Eevee could still evolve into a Normal-type, thus covering 8 of the 17 types.

Well y'know, what if Sylveon actually ISN'T just Flying, and is instead Flying/Normal? It would make sense for those who think normal, and those who think flying too, which will keep Tornadus unique, and cover two typings. It's not really dual typing imo because it's happened for so many flying types before, so...

blue February 15th, 2013 1:32 AM

Well, the majority of flying types have a dual Normal typing anyway, so to give Sylveon only one type being Flying would make it the only non-legendary Pokemon to be pure Flying which would be pretty neat IMO, they're long overdue IMo.

Ho-Oh February 15th, 2013 1:44 AM

But it looks like it could easily be Flying or Normal, and because of that it could just follow the old pattern. The only way to break said pattern is if it's a new type or a dual type of anything else. ;( Normal/Flying wouldn't really imo.

blue February 15th, 2013 2:10 AM

I think a dual type of any kind would break the chain, each eeveelution has a specific stand alone type so to give Sylveon any combination would be a change regardless. I also don't see any benefits from slapping on an extra Normal type assuming its primary typing is Flying.

CloysterOyster February 15th, 2013 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7539529)
Well y'know, what if Sylveon actually ISN'T just Flying, and is instead Flying/Normal? It would make sense for those who think normal, and those who think flying too, which will keep Tornadus unique, and cover two typings. It's not really dual typing imo because it's happened for so many flying types before, so...

I was thinking Flying/Normal too. That has never been done in that order. That would certainly break the chain.

vaporeon7 February 15th, 2013 3:01 AM

It could always be a fighting type and whip people like Meinshao does.

holdmykidney February 15th, 2013 4:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CloysterOyster (Post 7539525)
What does the prefix "Sylv" derive from? I still think Sylveon's a Normal-type, it has alot of Normal-type characteristics, although in some art it shows it flying using its ribbons, so it could also be a Flying-type.

The closest I can think of is the word "sylvania" which refers to forests and trees. It does kinda look like Deerling's spring form, but I can't imagine they'd do another grass type.

I have a nice video of Sylveon in battle from X & Y - It uses Trump Card, Focus Blast (I think) and Swift and some sort of dark-coloured stat affecting move I can't identify.

What if Sylveon is a powered-up Normal type evolution for Eevee? It would be nice for that Adaptability attribute which Eevee has to be passed onto something with a bit of kick.

Miss Doronjo February 15th, 2013 7:24 AM

Maybe the love theme is pretty strong in Sylveon, as posted above. It might be a new type, or it might be an old, but either way, maybe it will be a running theme. It can be pretty love-themed without being of the "love/emotion" type (emotion for more applicability), seeing as its ability can reflect most traits GameFreak care to give it. We all know Primeape is notoriously angry, and thus it has Anger Point and Vital Spirit as its abilities. Slaking is lazy, with Truant (and moves like Slack off and Yawn). Dragonite is said to be able to control the weather, and thus gets almost all the weather moves in the game, and so on. Even without restorting to a new type, GameFreak can make Sylveon pretty love-ey.

A Love-type seems like an interesting idea, but it would be very hard to make type matchups that would make sense with it, bar against Dark-type (and maybe Steel-type - as machines don't feel emotions, but this is very debatable as Magnezone FEELS emotions according to its PokéDex entry). Then again, A Love type would be a good replacement for a Light type, though I can't imagine what types it could hit super-effectively, or not very effectively, or what it would resist or be weak to. Speaking of which, imagine if they changed the Attract mechanics so that it could affect same-sex Pokémon. It would be an act of respect from Game Freak to recognize that homosexuality is natural and that gay couples should have their rights recognized, Although Game Freak would possibly have problems with the Church.

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Originally Posted by CloysterOyster (Post 7539525)
What does the prefix "Sylv" derive from?

Right now, I'm thinking the Slyph theory may be the most likely. According to what I've read about Sylphs:

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Sylphs are winged air elements or fairies. They ride the wind, flying high with eagles, Sylphs are almost transparent. They're slender and graceful, with large glistening eyes and huge wings. Sylphs befriend and protect other flying creatures, such as birds, moths and butterflies. Sylphs can move as fast as lightning, but they may also drift along on draughts or puffs of wind.
Almost transparent - Slight stretch, but Sylveon is predominately white-coloured.
They ride the wind - I believe some made the connection between the bows and scarfs with kites, which would make sense as kites can "ride the wind".
They're slender and graceful - The lightest Eeveelution.
Large glistening eyes - Sylveon has massive blue eyes.
Butterflies - Some people thought the bows looked like butterflies, and this is where they could come in.

I think there are more definitions of Sylphs which... I'll check out. Again, maybe knowing the origin of this mon can give us a hint towards its stat spread? Sylphs are described as moving as fast as lightning, and they befriend and protect other flying creatures. Perhaps a fast, defensive Flying type? Something along the lines of 65/60/110/65/95/130, though more HP would be nice. And just an extra: if Sylphs move as fast as lightning, and Jolteon is an Electric type, it's possible that Sylveon will have the same speed as Jolteon.

I'm actually more interested on how it evolves. Maybe this is a stretch but:



Maybe? Although, we can already technically trade Eevee holding a Prism Scale in Gen V. Another thing I'm wondering about is it's ability. What's it's ability going to be? Something new, or related to Flying/Wind in general? Or something basic like Adaptability?

Sabrewulf238 February 15th, 2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7539524)
I don't see them doing this just for Sylveon. :( It's an interesting idea but they've had Flying for so long, changing it up would be quite strange/hard to get used to, as opposed to Light type imo.

Also guys I was just thinking, Cinccino has a scarf attached to itself p much! So Sylveon's ribbons aren't as weird :3

Well I never said it would be just for Sylveon. Of course it would be used for new pokemon too.

Maybe Normal/Flying types would become Wind/Flying?

Ho-Oh February 15th, 2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7539931)
Well I never said it would be just for Sylveon. Of course it would be used for new pokemon too.

Maybe Normal/Flying types would become Wind/Flying?

I guess although I'd rather just keep them flying/normal as it makes it a little easier for fighting types :( but ya maybe if Sylveon launches it but I kinda doubt it that's all. But by doing it for Sylveon I meant that being the original reason then spreading to everything else lmao.

roosterman February 15th, 2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7538208)
What show? We only get News two major ways in Japan, during the Sunday Episodes of Pokemon Smash (Saturday afternoons for Americans) and on or around the 15th of every month when the Coro Coro Scans are released.

There aren't any other schedueled news releases other than this. Internationally we have to wait for one of these to align and watch Pokemon's Twitter/Pokemon.com to see if we get the international version of it. We still have 2 days to see if the Coro Coro leak is japanese exclusive (which is possible seeing as its more Movie related than game related with Ninfia headlining the Pikachu Short with Eevee.) If we don't get any info on Ninfia for English viewers by the 15th than its Japanese exclusive release.

thats it, pokemon smash. whatever site it was i was reading about ninfea on said that smash said to expect news on Wednesday, guess not. its the 15th now so maybe we get typing? the pokemon website is dropping some really heavy hints that its gonna be a new type, almost like, a never used before on anything type. darn, i wanted a dragon.

blue February 15th, 2013 11:17 AM

I wonder if Smash will reveal the typing tomorrow? They heavily hinted at the Eeveelutuons for next weeks preview (last week) and with CoroCoro being the first to reveal Sylveon, they could just give us a little more infomation..


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