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jellotime91 February 18th, 2013 2:32 PM

I believe Sylveon is either Normal, or Flying, but if it is Flying type it will certainly be "Normal / Flying" anyway.

Dragon is also a possibility, but I doubt it. I think the way the ribbons flow in the wind suggests that it is a flying type.

If it's normal type, I definitely wouldn't use it, but if it's flying type I would have it replace my usual bird (unless it can't learn fly, in that case screw it altogether.)

WishCookie February 18th, 2013 3:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7543952)
Electric type moves aren't very effective against Dragon types, and they're only neutral when it's a Dragon/Flying. Being an Eeveelution, I would say it's almost safe to assume Sylveon will be one pure type unless GameFreak really wanted to pull one from underneath us, which in this case I doubt.

Ooooohhh, right sorry. I forgot about that, I thought dragon-type pokemon counted as flying cause some of them got wings and everything but then like you said, if they have wings they're dragon/flying.

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7543991)
I guess it can be a little weird for it to be a flying type. I mean, it's on the ground on all fours - how exactly would it dodge moves like Earhquake? Maybe it could it float?

Well, have you seen Shaymin's flying form? Its on the ground with its all four but its ears makes it being able to fly. The same would probably go for Sylveon's bows since they will probably be able to somehow make Sylveon being able to fly or its just a dragon-type, who knows.

blue February 18th, 2013 4:37 PM

At a first glance, I wouldn't class Sylveon as a Bug type but then again... Pokemon can look completely different to their typing, just because a Pokemon is Red doesn't make it a Fire type.. Right?

Miss Doronjo February 18th, 2013 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7544026)
Sylveon is definitely a bug-type, possible a bug/flying, but at least a bug type!

"The Clipper (Parthenos sylvia) is a species of nymphalid butterfly found in South and South-East Asia, mostly in forested areas. The Clipper is a fast flying butterfly and has a habit of flying with its wings flapping stiffly between the horizontal position and a few degrees below the horizontal. It may glide between spurts of flapping."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenos_sylvia

Well, okay but... while it's true that "nymph" is a term used in entomology, that term itself is also adopted from the beings in Greek mythology: nymphs were like, lesser female nature deities. Sometimes, that term is used to refer to maidens or beautiful young women--all of which can explain Sylveon's feminine-like appearance. I dunn, it's just, out of all the possible uses of "nymph," the entomological term strikes me as the least likely that is being invoked here. I think we can have a feminine mystical being on our hands--which this ties together pretty much all of its different names in different languages.

Eh, that still leaves its type pretty hard to determine, imo.

AmericanWonderland February 18th, 2013 4:52 PM

Personally, I believe that Sylveon is either a bug type or a normal type. I'm leaning towards bug though. I also heard a very ridiculous rumor that it was a new type called light, which would be interesting, but really don't think that's a possibility in any way.

Ho-Oh February 19th, 2013 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7544469)
At a first glance, I wouldn't class Sylveon as a Bug type but then again... Pokemon can look completely different to their typing, just because a Pokemon is Red doesn't make it a Fire type.. Right?

But for Eeveelutions in specific every Pokemon has looked like its typing. To break that pattern now would be a little unusual when it's been going on for so many generations/evolutions in said line already.

Platinum Lucario February 19th, 2013 3:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7544026)
Sylveon is definitely a bug-type, possible a bug/flying, but at least a bug type!

"The Clipper (Parthenos sylvia) is a species of nymphalid butterfly found in South and South-East Asia, mostly in forested areas. The Clipper is a fast flying butterfly and has a habit of flying with its wings flapping stiffly between the horizontal position and a few degrees below the horizontal. It may glide between spurts of flapping."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenos_sylvia

At first I was thinking about Fighting-type, but when I saw this... that sounded very close to it's name (which I thought it was something like "silvia"), especially to how it's bows are shaped. So now it's starting to make me think that it's a Bug-type.

But y'know what I find strange? Every Bug-type Pokémon design that I've seen is based off either an insect, arachnid, crustacean or arthropod. If Sylveon was to be a Bug-type... it would break the cycle of all Bug-type Pokémon being based off insects, arachnids, crustaceans or arthropods. But again... it doesn't seem likely that Game Freak would develop a Pokémon to be a Bug-type when it doesn't appear like an Insect or something similar in any way.

CloysterOyster February 19th, 2013 5:26 AM

Here's what we do know about Eevee:

1. It's a pure Normal-type
2. It can evolve depending on the elements and what environment they're in
3. Has already evolved into 7 of the 17 types, that being Water (Vaporeon), Electric (Jolteon), Fire (Flareon), Psychic (Espeon), Dark (Umbreon), Grass (Leafeon) and Ice (Glaceon)
4. It has yet to evolve into a dual-type
5. It evolves with elemental stones or rocks, or time of day
6. It has not evolved into the following types as of yet: Normal, Flying, Fighting, Bug, Rock, Ground, Steel, Poison, Ghost and Dragon

Here's the type breakdown:

Normal - Most plausible theory. Its colors are white, light blue and pink, which seem fairy and angelic-like, which is characteristic of some Normal-types like Togetic and Clefairy. It also has bows which are closely associated with some Normal-types.

Flying - Second plausible theory. Its ribbons flow in the wind, which could mean its relative to fairies and can fly.

Fighting - Could possibly be but it doesn't have a tough appearance or seem to dress in any fighting-like attire

Bug - Does not have any bug characteristics, like antennae or stingers

Rock - Does not have a stone-like body or anything rock-related

Ground - Not sandy in color and does not look like one that'd live in the ground

Steel - Does not have a metallic appearance or anything metal on its body

Poison - Does not have dark colors like some other Poison-types and does not give the impression that it can use Poison moves

Ghost - Does not look transparent and is not eerie-looking like other Ghosts

Dragon - Does not look reptilian or dragon-like and has no visible claws or fangs

Miss Doronjo February 19th, 2013 5:37 AM

Hm, well, there's also the possibility that it can be a new type because while it has very little evidence going for it, at least the only evidence it has AGAINST it is that a new type in general is quite a stretch. All the other types have pretty big incorrelations with them (mostly that Sylveon looks nothing like them and it's names don't correlate at all).

blue February 19th, 2013 6:26 AM

I'm hoping we get something half decent in next month's issue, the fact that we got Sylveon this month may effect it somehow in terms of how much more is revealed? idk does that usually happen. I'm half expecting the most that we'll get to be the revealing of Sylveon's typing, especially since they've got another eight months to give out information.

Ho-Oh February 19th, 2013 7:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7545378)
I'm hoping we get something half decent in next month's issue, the fact that we got Sylveon this month may effect it somehow in terms of how much more is revealed? idk does that usually happen. I'm half expecting the most that we'll get to be the revealing of Sylveon's typing, especially since they've got another eight months to give out information.

By that point it'll also be two months into the speculation period, which definitely improves the chances of there being a lot more information, given that they have less to hold off on as it gets closer. :3

AmericanWonderland February 19th, 2013 8:28 AM

I honestly don't really care what Sylveon's type is, it's an eeveelution so I'm sure I'll love it! And I'm just excited in general for X and Y to come out, every new bit of information, or even just new theories, make me even more excited for the new generation!

brica8 February 19th, 2013 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7545281)
This soooo much!

Of course, we already know that even by -looking- at Sylveon, there's not really much we can get, it's bodily features don't really reveal anything, and each and every eeveelution's colors usually match its typing. What's unusual here is that we have an eeveelution in which we can't necessarily find exactly what typing it is, because it's colors don't necessary fit a specific type. The closest thing it could possibly come to is either Normal or Flying, because Normal Pokemon don't have any distinct features about them, and Flying Pokemon more or less based on the type/weaknesses image that was posted either here or in the X/Y Discussion some time ago. XD

//wall of text

So far I'm leaning most towards Normal out of everything else. I mean, now looking at it, I want you guys to take a look at Serebii's B/W Pokedex, and go on "search by type" and click normal, and you'd find the results pretty surprising.

Now answer this question after you've looked at that list: How many normal types are Pink and White(or even just pink), and look similar in coloring to Sylveon here?

It has to be at least part Normal, if anything else.

With Eevee already being normal type, I don't see why a normal evolution would look so different

Mark Kamill February 19th, 2013 1:52 PM

Well more Sylveon info is coming next month, which means we're likely gonna get some news on evolution methods, and hopefully other old Pokemon evolutions. And if its a new type I would assume other Pokemon belonging to it would be revealed as well.

brica8 February 19th, 2013 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7545901)
But again, Sylveon doesn't look so different after all. I mean, just throw some pink on Eevee and you would have Sylveon right there; minus the ears and all of that other fancy stuff. It's just that a lot of Normal types usually share similar coloring, giving away the type in itself, and the coloring is usually either white/pink/grey, something along those lines.

I have to disagree with you on that one. I think the only similarity between them I see is that they're both derivatives of dogs. The white and pink colour scheme is familiar to normal types though.

Cerberus87 February 19th, 2013 3:57 PM

The only reason people think it's a Normal-type is because it looks like Audino, but it doesn't make any sense. The evolution of Eevee is susceptibility to the radiation around it, which comes from an evo stone or the environment. This way, how could Eevee change form and still be Normal? Normal is the "untouched" Eevee, with its DNA intact. If it changed form by evolving, it's no longer Normal.

I'll be very disappointed if it turns out to be a Normal-type, as the whole point of Eevee is to change type upon evolving... But I'm also 99% sure it won't be Normal-type. And I'm also a bit less sure it won't be Flying. Ask yourselves a question: how could it fly? I mean actually taking off by itself and flying. The absolute majority of the Flying-type Pokémon can take off by themselves. Birds and dragons flap their wings, Tropius uses its large leaves on its back, Mantine can glide over the surface of water after jumping out of it at high speed.

The only Flying-type Pokémon that needs the help of the wind to fly is the Hoppip line, but Hoppip and its evolutions weigh almost nothing by Pokémon standards, so they're light enough to float in the air and control their flight. Meanwhile, Sylveon weighs more than 20 kilos. He's the lightest of the eeveelutions, but he's not that much lighter than the rest, and not light enough to be caught by the wind, unless it's a hurricane.

Gyarados can't fly, but he's only Flying-type because of the legend of the carp.

If it turns out Sylveon is actually Flying, he'll have to be special biased, because most of the physical Flying-type moves are related to birds.

Guy February 19th, 2013 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CloysterOyster (Post 7545321)
[...] Dragon - Does not look reptilian or dragon-like and has no visible claws or fangs

If you look at the left side of the scan here, you'll see Sylveon actually does have two small fangs. Not that it makes it any more likely to being a Dragon-type, but it definitely has teeth.

brica8 February 19th, 2013 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7546132)
If you look at the left side of the scan here, you'll see Sylveon actually does have two small fangs. Not that it makes it any more likely to being a Dragon-type, but it definitely has teeth.

I think that the fact that it's the only eeveelution to have teeth must mean something. I also was thinking that maybe the streamers on Sylveon could be a reference to the whiskers of a chinese dragon. Perhaps this really is a dragon eeveelution a la Leafeon colour scheme (Heavy accent colour of typing).

Miss Doronjo February 19th, 2013 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brica8 (Post 7546222)
I think that the fact that it's the only eeveelution to have teeth must mean something. I also was thinking that maybe the streamers on Sylveon could be a reference to the whiskers of a chinese dragon. Perhaps this really is a dragon eeveelution a la Leafeon colour scheme (Heavy accent colour of typing).

I've said this earlier in this thread, but, some eeveelutions do have teeth or fangs. At least Umbreon here does, if you look closely:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123165535/pokemon/images/1/13/Gary's_Umbreon_Shadow_Ball.jpg

But maybe Sylveon could still be a Dragon type; some people have speculated it can be a Dragon type because of the colors of it's typing on top of the CoroCoro page.

Cerberus87 February 19th, 2013 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7546240)
It's not just really Audino, it's just about almost -every normal type out there- that has a similar color to Sylveon. It might be Eevee's natural eeveelution, or something of that nature. /shrugs. Plausible, not impossible or anything like that.

I'd like to see a pink Ursaring, or Tauros. Or Kangaskhan.

Only the fairy group (Clefairy, Chansey, Whismur and Audino) have similar colors to Sylveon. None of them have fangs.

A Normal-type eeveelution would have to be physical based or defensive, because the strongest special Normal-type move is lolHyper Beam.

With this kind of logic, people would consider Dratini a Water-type Pokémon on first sight. It's blueish, shaped like a snake and lives in water. But it's not Water-type.

Yamiidenryuu February 19th, 2013 6:39 PM

So am I the only one who thinks Sylveon could fly through some sort of wind control power?

Xander Olivieri February 19th, 2013 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7546321)
I'd like to see a pink Ursaring, or Tauros. Or Kangaskhan.

Only the fairy group (Clefairy, Chansey, Whismur and Audino) have similar colors to Sylveon. None of them have fangs.

Clefairy usually has an overbite snaggle tooth. Snubbull has some similar colors too, is fairy grouped, and has an underbite. Its not unheard of for them to have visible teeth. Teeth are rarely seen on any Pokemon unless its part of the outward design. If they didn't have teeth then eating anything hard for most of the mammalian Pokemon would be incredibly hard.

brica8 February 19th, 2013 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo (Post 7546241)
I've said this earlier in this thread, but, some eeveelutions do have teeth or fangs. At least Umbreon here does, if you look closely:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123165535/pokemon/images/1/13/Gary's_Umbreon_Shadow_Ball.jpg

But maybe Sylveon could still be a Dragon type; some people have speculated it can be a Dragon type because of the colors of it's typing on top of the CoroCoro page.

I guess of all the previous eeveelutions, Umbreon having fangs makes the most sense since it's a dark type, and it's jet black colour gives it an evil/vampiric look.

Other than a dark type, the only eeveelution typing I could see being given fangs is a dragon type. I just don't understand if it is a dragon type, why is it so small and why does it look so cutesy?

Punnagg February 19th, 2013 10:05 PM

i think that sylveon is a normal
as flying pokemon moastly have wings nd sylveon doesnt

also it has cute kind og look with those ribbons which makes him look like audino or skitty

MarinoKadame February 20th, 2013 12:50 AM

We will maybe get a second Eeveelution with Sylveon since they are mostly released in pair.


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