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Possible leak on 2chan/reddit of starter evos
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Thoughts? Found the picture on 2chan/reddit Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/16myox/someone/c7xiaog EDIT: Changed the image because it has a better translation than what I attempted. Sorry for confusion with names. If this is real, and it may or may not be, it'll be revealed sometime this week and maybe as early as tomorrow. Originally from 2chan which has been known to troll us english speaking fans, but also been known to give us actual legit leaks in the past. I do hope this is real, but who knows for certain? I want Water/Fighting, Grass/Dark and Fire/Psychic to be real but it just sounds too good to be true. |
Ribbub is fantastic because "bub".
I'm not sure how to feel about the rest, however - hopefully we get actual information soon. |
That's neat. Tells us we're getting a finch for our generic bird Pokemon. Possibly, anyway. Can't say I'm crazy about the possible starter evo names though, especially since we haven't seen them. Cause you know, when you see something and know the name, you can kinda think "yeah that looks like a ____" so lol. They don't seem like bad names though, though I don't like the name Finches. That's just...plural of finch. Nothing that special about it.
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Anybody know what Juumatsu/Froabanet means?
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The region name being in here means that we can easily confirm or deny this rumor rather quickly since they usually tell us the region name rather early. |
Fire/psychic... My gudness, never wanted it.. :-/
i guess, gotta go for chespin |
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The seconds types are also a type-triangle. So each starter would be strong and weak against each other at the same time. Pretty cool!
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If this turns out to be legit, then I'd be perfectly fine with it to be honest.
Fire/Psychic is neato. |
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Grass Zeruneasu? ? ? Iberutaru flame? ? ? Zanaruoru rock / Zanarol ·? ? ? Private railway steel / Dereyn Runaseki rock / Lunyrite Sikasso flame / Stapyre Steel beats Rock beats Flame beats Steel beats Rock etc., |
This is pretty cool. I'm excited for a Fire/Psychic fox.
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I usually never prefer to play psychic types(like ash lol)
it would be better that its again fire/fight, or just be it pure fire, i wont care much, cuz psychic type sucks..! |
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Landed me the name Fernox on Gaiaonline. Woot.
If these end up not being real, it's no big deal. Fernox soudns cool. |
I'm hoping they are real. I love psychic types so the fox would be nice to see :) (also if remakes do come it'll mean we've never had two fire/fighting starters in one generation just one since gen 3 (3-Blaziken, 4- Inferape, 5- Emboar, 6- Blaziken again)). So nice to know we won't have another fire/Fighting, crosses fingers. Please be real!
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Fire mono would work too, i guess so
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So it looks like I'm 1.5 for 3 on these ones; I never thought Grass/Dark as I didn't think they'd do a full double type triangle (I thought Ground because it looks like a mole with a leafy cap), and my second guess for the Water starter sub-type was Fighting (I picked Poison first). Meanwhile, I nailed Fennekin's sub-type of Psychic (was just about to say I nailed Fennekin but that sounds wrong).
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Water/Fighting ruins my dreams of frogs on a cloud. :(
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I guess simple fire would've worked but that's Typlosion's special place in the fire starters, being the only mono type of the 5 (now 6).
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Each starter is weak to the other sounds good.
Grass-Dark Fire-Psychic Water-Fighting The only thing that would make this better (even if it is repetitive) is to have two rivals again! |
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I fully expect two rivals, on that note. Cyclone |
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Oh lol, i never noticed fennekin kill both of them, its same for chespin and froakie too...
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With your statement, I was thinking of a triple threat battle o_o It may be a battle of speed, but defenses may still be in place. They may surprisingly have the same base speed, too.
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but man, the types do sound too good to be true. grass/dark and fire/psychic? freaking awesome. I can't imagine that they would be announcing the whole starter's evolution line so early though. I mean with bw the final form of the starters weren't shown until the game was released. |
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I hope Chespear looks better and has a better movepool than Shiftry because Grass/Dark is a pretty cool typing. Lots of weaknesses, lots of resistances.
Also this suddenly became relevant. It's Water/Fighting time. Spoiler:
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I don't really believe it. A lot of this stuff used to circulate in B/W and only a quarter of it was true, not saying that this can't be correct but I honestly think it's too early for any of this (given that it's meant to be revealed this week...?) I mean, the starter evolutions in Generation 5 were only revealed about about a month or even less before the games came out. I know GF can break patterns and such, but really, there's 10 months to go, they've got to space themselves out a bit really.
But yeah I wouldn't mind if it was true, I just somewhat doubt it. |
The names seem pretty legit, s bit dissapointed by the regions name, although i dont know if thats the international or japanese only name
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The names do seem pretty real...
I like the name Froabanet, it rolls off the tongue. I suppose it's possible that game freak might be attempting to do something like what they do with super smash bros (with the dojo) and keep giving us tidbits of info. |
If this is real, I'd be pretty happy and might change my mind about who I'll pick. I've always wanted a Grass/Dark starter and Chespin's evolutions names sound the best. Plus Fire/Psychic seems like the best typing for Flannec and Fernox . Anything that's not Fire/Fightning is fine by me though. lol. So hopefully this is right cause I want another Grass/Dark type besides Shiftry.
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The starts look fine; it's the legendary pokemon's names that look... weird to me; I mean, Private railway steel / Dereyn? Is that like... a pokemon that resembles trains? Runaseki rock / Lunyrite, and Sikasso flame / Stapyre... Lunyrite and Stapyre sounded related to me at first, but.... idk. Eh, I'm not sure if I would call this real; it's possible, but, iiiit just sounds a little off.xD
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I don't really believe it, I never really buy into those things. But if true, i'd be cool with it.
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Grass/Dark is a nice typing for a starter. I'm really looking forward to these games >.>
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I'm gonna chime in and say that this is probably fake. And I want it to be fake. I'd rather not have a subtype trio at all. Plus, if they're going to make Froakie's evos Water/Fighting, then why not just make Poliwag the water starter.
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Then y charizard is not a legendary pkmn? Moltres is also fire/flying... XD
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I will feel very at home with a Water/fighting type so I would be very happy if this turns out to be true. It would be like Poliwrath number 2, as you guys can imagine Poliwrath is a Pokemon that i have and will continue to use many times. Fire/psychic I'm not that excited about I'm really not that huge of a psychic types i like a few but not one of my favorite types. Grass Dark I'm pretty excited about i think it is a pretty decent type layout i have used Cacturne and i was a fan so I'm pretty happy in general. But as you guys can imagine i will go Froakie |
I wouldn't mind if it was true, but it may be fake. We'll have to wait for actual confirmation from Nintendo/ Game Freak to be 100% sure.
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Too good to be true, sadly. xD
'Cause here's the thing, the name "Fernox" is already trademarked by some other company for their cleaning products, so that does prove that it only made up and made so that fans would be fooled by something like that, 4chan is like that with their image boards. I would've been speculating something like "Psyfennic" for Fennekin's final evolution rather than "Fernox". But ah well, let's see what they'll reveal later on in the year, I think it's too soon for The Pokémon Company to reveal the information about the final evolutions, 'cause they usually reveal the final evolutions after they've shown many features in the game as well as the other new Pokémon that are going to be in the game. We've got until October 2013, it's a looooong time before they ever get to release the game, so to keep the excitement up, they wouldn't reveal that stuff too soon, otherwise if they reveal everything too soon... it keeps the excitement down. xD Yep, way too soon for the final evolutions. But that won't stop us speculating. :P |
If theyre correct for the starters, my prediction was spot on. ;:
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What makes me doubt this at the most is that all of this information about new Pokémon, specifically the legendary Pokémon, are said to be revealed within this week. If that's so, then that's a lot of new information to put out with nine months left to go. Information that is usually revealed at a much later time.
But going with it, it seems too good to be true. The starter names I like a lot, and the typing for each of them are pretty spot on to what many are speculating them to be. Which is why it would seem easy to fabricate something like this. I like the idea of a Finch Pokémon, and based on the English names, they're definitely a play on the theory about the genetics theory and basing the forms off of the male and female chromosomes. What bugs me is that from the list of the new legendary types, Fire and Rock seem to be used twice. I mean, I could see them trying to go for a triangular balance, but to use the same two types for two separate legendaries, and make a possible second trio like in Gen V, seems a bit... much? Also, not too keen on a railway or train Pokémon. I keep picturing Season 4 of Digimon with this idea. I suppose time will only tell, but if it turns out true, I won't be opposed to it. I'm liking what I see, just doubtful for now. |
I cannot contain my excitement at this (possible) leak! I really like everything I'm seeing here... especially Fire/Psychic! I like being weak/strong against the other starters :33 Makes things much more interesting. AND THE TRIOS OMG! Can't wait n__________n
*fangirl* |
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Back OT, I always play water as my starter, but I might end up going grass this time around. Dark>water IMO. |
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But if it's true then banzai, finally not Fire/Fighting starter... |
I hope this is fake because:
1) Chespin looks nothing like it could evolve into a Grass/Dark type, more like Grass/Ground 2) Dark and Psychic were formally special-based moves, and all the other secondary types in the past were formally physical-based, which makes it a pattern 3) Dark/Pyschic/Fighting is an unbalanced type cycle because Dark is immune to Psychic, unlike Grass/Fire/Water, where all three can hit each other supper effectively and not very effectively even as dual types |
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I think it is clearly Fake. But, that is the fun of this time between games!! |
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While I'm still partial to the idea of Froakie becoming a Water/Dark burglar I'm warming to the idea of Water/Fighting since the idea came to me that the bubbles could form a cape or some such. SUPER HERO POKEMON, GUYS.
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Information from 2chan and Reddit is *usually* pretty unreliable/wrong. I wouldn't mind those typings for the evos, but I'm not going to assume that's what we're getting until a reliable source confirms it 100%.
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Updated the translation in the OP and provided a better image. I do think this may be true, but I suppose we shall find out sooner or later. Less believable things have been true from the days of pre 5th gen release speculation. |
Interesting, this says that the Y is Dark/??? and X is Grass/???. Assuming this is true, which is a stretch, we might be getting new types.
As for the credibility of the rest of the information, its a pretty well made hoax if it is indeed one. It gives out little enough information that it can pass for a leaked "teaser". It even appears to hold some information back (which isn't very typical of teasers). It also boldly gives out concrete statements, such as the names, which would be among the first things to be revealed and thus would be easy to verify. Version-dependent evolutions is certainly GameFreak-esque. |
Mm... right.
This isn't even the first "leak" of the starter evos I've seen today. For a bit of amusement, search "pokemon starter evos." You'll not only find multiple, and conflicting, "leaks" of the next starter evos, but some really outlandish "leaks" of the previous gens. |
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2) I really don't think that matters after the physical/special split. Actually, I doubt it mattered even before that. It's not like there's really a reason for them to keep that pattern like there is for, say, having certain types for starters or having a duo/trio of legendaries for the game covers. 3) This is a pretty minor problem given that fire still hits grass SEly. And that type trio has already been referenced in BW anyway- one of the triple battle rematches in Opelucid uses Bisharp/Elgyem/Mienfoo while the other uses the elemental monkey trio- so Gamefreak is apparently fine with it. That aside, I still don't think this is legit. But we'll see. |
It would be interesting if true. Fennekin being Fire/Psychic is a step up from Fire/Fighting certainly. However Im hesitant to believe any of this yet, until real confirmed info comes about despite that true info sometimes does surface on 2ch.
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http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/004/cache/amazon-horned-frog_443_600x450.jpg We don't have any frogs that look like that. |
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The differences between Swampert, Whiscash, Gastradon, and Palpitoed are apparent when looking at their origin. They are based on a salamander, a catfish, a sea slug, and a toad, respectively. Likewise, Charizard is a dragon while Moltres is a phoenix. The same also applies to Bulbasaur, Bellsprout, and Oddish (dinosaur, venus flytrap, and radish, respectively). |
When I saw the name "Lunyrite", I thought it was going to be an evolution for Lunatone!
As for the starters' types... MAKE. IT. HAPPEN!!!!! |
I hope this is real. Like a lot of people, I'm pretty sick of Fire/Fighting with the starters (I wouldn't mind it for wild Pokemon though).
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@ Superfox Swampert's based on a mudskipper not a salamender. And than there's Ho-Oh who is also part Fire/Flying and based on a Phoenix (the asian version of one).
Either way I don't mind another water/fighting frog as long as they make it a different type of frog/toad. |
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Anywhoozle, I really hope this is true, and I actually think the trailer supports it. Their moves look like Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting. |
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I would like to see some confirmation of this. It's all plausible, of course, but something about it makes me doubtful. Maybe I'm just suspicious in general, but getting fully evolved starters with Dark/Fighting/Psychic secondary types just like everyone's always wanted seems too coincidental.
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I have my doubts. I also think it´s way too early to reveal all these things. They could reveal the generic bird alongside some other Pokémon though. I wouldn´t mind if the typings were real...I just hope they don´t mess up Chespin too much.
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NO PLEASE NO. Please be fake. PLEEEEAAAAAASEEEE!!!!!!!
Although, if this is real, then I guess some people will like it, and it'll be okay. My one concern is that people will pretend that Dark/Fighting/Psychic is a type triangle, to counteract Water/Fire/Grass. I loathe that everybody has it engraved that Dark/Psychic/Fighting is a type triangle. IT'S NOT. Do you like Dark/Fighting/Psychic? Do you want starters to be these types? That's okay, and I respect that, that's your opinion. What really peeves, me, though, is when people go around allegedly boasting that Dark/Fighting/Psychic is a type triangle, when it isn't, BECAUSE DARK IS IMMUNE TO PSYCHIC, PEOPLE. There are other legitimate type triangles, other than Grass/Water/Fire. Rock/Flying/Fighting and Ice/Flying/Fighting are some examples. Quote:
Although, on the plus side, I know that you've been wanting Dark/Psychic/Fighting for a while now, so if this turns out to be true, you (and a couple other people, apparently) will be really pleased with the starters, I bet! So, Gamefreak would still be succeeding, because the majority of the fans don't care about the slight unfairness, from the vibe I'm getting, and will warm up to the starter's evolutions quite quickly. Which is good, don't you think? There's no pleasing everybody, so if this turns out to be one of those generations where my personal tastes aren't pleased, I'll just wait until the next generation. |
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Who cares if it isn't a type triangle -_- The bottom line is, it allows Chespin to have a shot against Fennekin, and so on and so on. So Feenkin can't damage Chespin with its Psychic attacks, oh well. Not like Fennekin's a Fire-type or anything.
Personally, I'd be very happy if these leaks were true, but as others have said, the chances aren't really likely considering the source. But, then again, stranger things have happened. |
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And seriously, people are blowing the immunity thing way out of proportion, especially give that it's only being used for secondary types. Chespin's evolution having an immunity rather than a resistance to a move Fennekin's evo wouldn't even be using due to much better options is barely "obtrusive". Besides, if they're really reworking the type chart to accommodate new types like some other rumors said, they could easily fix this teeny little problem and use the starters to show it off. |
A re-worked type chart would be nice.
Personally, I'd like to see Bugs and Poison-types to be buffed, either with more resistances, or advantages. Also, I'd really like the whole Psychic immunity thing to be done away with. I never really understood the logic behind it and, frankly, it seems wasteful that Dark types have an immunity to Psychic when it could simply have a resistance and possibly add a new resistance to compensate for it. |
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And @RedWing that's exactly my point! :) It gives each one an advantage over the other! It doesn't matter if it's perfect. And I mean really, we're going to have flying/rock/fighting as secondary types? I would never pick a rock-type starter, ever. |
I actually would be ok with all of that. I'd still grab Fennekin over the other two, awesome typings aside.
Assuming this is real. D: |
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I'm going to take a risk and claim this is true. If you watch the trailer, you can see Fennekin uses a move that looks like a Psychic move.
It would be very cool if this was true BTW. |
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It matters to me if it's perfect, but honestly, like I said, if you get your D/P/F starters, good for you! It's not the end of the world for me, anyway, and I think if you really like D/P/F triangles that much, you'll enjoy playing with the starters for this generation. |
If this is true Slowbro and Starmie will be great fennekin counters.
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2) Poison, Flying, Fighting, Ground, and Steel were formerly physical, so there's no way to stop the pattern now. 3) Both STABs of a dual-typed starter are suppose to hit another starter regardless if it's super effective or not very effective. There's no sign of an immunity from each regional starters (there's no ground starter in Kanto, no poison starter in Hoenn nor Sinnoh, and no electric starter in Sinnoh). |
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2) Um, sorry to burst your bubble, but GameFreak can do whatever they please. Pokemon is their project and if they feel like adding triple-typing or making a Pokemon "Cake" type, then they can. They aren't restricted by silly patterns the fans notice. 3) Oh really? Again, another fan-based theory. Never officially stated, nor alluded to. Again, GameFreak does as it pleases. Attempting to stick to "tradition", as some would call it with Pokemon, is like trying to name Jell-O to a tree. |
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Anyways..I'm not too sure about this leak. "Aikenki" would translate into something like "I love sword wielding demons" I think...which sounds odd for a region name. Aikenki sounds more fitting for the name of a Ghost/Steel type, lol. If this does turn out to be true, I was at least right about the starter types. :D Also, assuming this is true, that finch Pokemon seems to have different formes based on gender (not just appearance). Kind of like Nidoran. Which backs up the common assumption that this generations theme is based on genetics. |
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It's hardly likely they'd reveal so many new Legendary Pokémon before revealing smaller things like the region bird and the common Normal-type found in early routes. Besides, these starter types aren't out of the realm of possibility. Just because so many people wish for them to happen, doesn't mean it can't or won't. GameFreak, and Pokémon in general, has shown that it doesn't always listen to its fan base in terms of wants and needs. They just do what they do. Heh. |
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They would be revealing 4, Z and a trio, since we already know 2 of them (its just the japanese names of X and Y) |
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Meh, I'm still not convinced Fennekin will be a Fire/Psychic, I mean, just because it's shown using Psychic, doesn't mean it'll be a Psychic-type. I won't be surprised if they just slap some boxing gloves on it and say it's a Fire/Fighting.
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It may not have been a Pychic or Ghost attack at all since we don't know what any attack looks like in Pokemon X and Pokemon Y. |
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idk, I just don't know how people think it was Confuse Ray. I'm pretty firm in that, whether this whole thing is true or not, Fennekin will end up being Fire/Psychic. |
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I guess I'm fine with these new starter types, but I'm not completely sure if this is true. If it is true, I can see Fennekin being psychic, as that is what the move it used looks like to me, and the typing is cool. But for the other 2, not really sure. I know from gen 5's evolution of Dewott to Samurott, that evolutions can sometimes be really unpredictable, but I still don't think Chespin will turn into something that is part Dark, it just doesn't feel right. Not only that, but I also find it weird that a starter will have a really bad weakness to a type, which is bug in this case. And the same for Froakie being Fighting in the end.
However if they do make all the starters have a second type, I can imagine it will be something like in Gen 4. In those games, the final evolutions were Empoleon(Water/Steel), Infernape(Fire/Fighting), and Torterra(Grass/Ground). I thought these typings were pretty nice, as this lets each starter have a chance against the other, as Torterra can use a Ground move against Infernape, Infernape can use a Fighting move against Empoleon, and Empoleon can use an Ice move against Torterra. I know the current speculated starters have secondary types that work like this, but I don't think the types really match, besides Fennekin. |
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