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moon March 5th, 2013 5:38 PM

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey... DOCTOR WHO Fan Club
 

"I am definitely a mad man with a box!"
— The Doctor, Season 5, Episode 1
Welcome to the Doctor Who fanclub!
This is a club for all discussion of Doctor Who - from "One" to "Twelve", from "Classic Who" to "2005 Who", from TV to audio dramas, Sarah Jane Adventures to Torchwood, anything and everything. Considering the incredible expanse of just the main TV canon, people are going to have a wide variety of preferences, experiences, and opinions. And that's fantastic! Remember that even though we may not always see eye-to-eye, we're united in love of this wonderful production. Doesn't matter how many times you've seen an episode, doesn't matter how much or how little you remember of events. If you love Doctor Who, you belong here.
"You have the guts to do what’s right, even when everyone else just runs away."
— Rose Tyler, Season 1, Episode 13
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Please follow all PC and FG&C rules! Like I said before, this club will probably be home to a fair amount of differing views; please respect your fellow club members and their opinions! Even if you disagree, do not use derogatory language, insult, or attack other members. I retain the right to evict people from the club if foul behaviour is a problem.

"In 900 years of time and space, I’ve never met anyone who wasn’t important."
— The Doctor, Season 6, Christmas Special
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Please fill in the form below to join in. After that you can just start chatting away about Doctor Who!
Favorite Doctor:
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"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
— The Doctor, Season 5, Episode 13
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Jake♫ March 10th, 2013 1:21 PM

Oh yes please! May I suggest a topic of your favorite regeneration of the Doctor?

Mark Kamill March 10th, 2013 1:45 PM

Sure, I forgot topic and new fan applications as well.

So far out of all the old doctors, my favorite has to lie somewhere between Pertwee and Davison. Baker is an overrated doctor, brilliant mind you. See pertwee is the perfect older doctor, sophisticated, wisened but full of life, where as Davison is the perfect young guy doctor, all over the place and quite a fancy dresser I might add. Some of my favorite old who moments belong in both of their runs, even if most of the old stuff is sublime.

U.Flame March 10th, 2013 2:03 PM

Username: U_Flame
Favorite Doctor: David Tennant
Favorite Companion: Hmm, toughie. I'd say Amy and Rory. Or just Amy.

Jake♫ March 10th, 2013 2:10 PM

Now that the form is there

Username: Jake♫
Favorite Doctor: Tenth - David Tennant
Favorite Companion: Rose

The only old doctors that I've seen are Baker and Davison, and I did enjoy them both. I just really need to go back and watch some more of Classic Who. New doctors it's easily Tennant. Although Eccleston was my first and I enjoyed him thoroughly, I feel like he was too rage-filled from dealing with the Time War and it took away from his likeability. I feel Tennant was just the perfect Doctor, and Matt Smith is pretty good as well, but I don't think he lives up to Tennant's legacy.

Mark Kamill March 10th, 2013 2:49 PM

Yeah, Tennant was amazing. Only thing is he could have been better if he didn't have RTD. Not saying Moffat, cause while he does do some great stuff he's a walking retcon machine, but someone other then RTD. Eccleston was the same issue too, unfortunately.

Alakazam17 March 10th, 2013 2:53 PM

Ah, I'm definitely joining here! :D

Username: Alakazam17
Favourite Doctor: David Tennant
Favourite Companion: Martha Jones

I started watching Doctor Who a few years ago when my then roommate introduced me to the series. I had already been a fan of Torchwood(seeing Martha there first), and I had no idea it was a spinoff until my roommate told me. So I believe I'm one of the few who went from Torchwood to Doctor Who as opposed to the other way around. Nonetheless I love Doctor Who now, having watched all of the new series, and I can't wait for the next season to commence later this year!

Aslan March 10th, 2013 9:03 PM

Bowties are cool. ;]

Username: Narnia
Favourite Doctor: DAVID TENNANT
Favourite Companion: Donna

David Tennant is definitely one of the most amazing doctors! I've heard David Tennant himself was a huge fan of Doctor Who when he was younger and I love all the passion he puts into playing his role :3. Some of his quotes were also hilarious and honestly I couldn't find a single thing to complain about him, he has dashing good looks and also his personality is quite interesting :3.

As for Donna, I guess I chose her as the companion that stood out most to me. She didn't have the same sort of love that goes on between The Doctor and other companions, where the companion shows a slight crush but she is still an interesting character nevertheless. Her personality was also wonderful, a little hot headed at times but other than that it was really unfortunate the events that happened in the end. I think Rose was a close favourite of mine as well, she had that cheerful and uplifting personality which I like, honestly serious is one of my least favourite traits. :x

I haven't actually seen much Classic Who haha, I've seen a couple of episodes and that's been good, should get around to watching more. Also there has been some sort of rumour of the first eighty episodes of Doctor Who being lost I think, which is interesting to hear. Has anyone else heard of this? :o

Mark Kamill March 11th, 2013 6:55 AM

Welcome new members! Yeah Donna was indeed great for her non-romance angle, making her my favorite too. I didn't mind Rose, but Martha was taking the whole "fawning over the Doctor" thing too far. I always loved it when Donna slapped the doctor those 2-3 times to give him a reality check. Also they're gonna air the missing 80 episodes? Where did you hear that?

Cherrim March 11th, 2013 12:22 PM

Username: Lightning
Favorite Doctor: 9, right now. (Love 10 but upon rewatching, I've preferred 9's sass a lot more. :P) Of Classic Who, I haven't seen very much but I really like everything I've seen of 2.
Favorite Companion: Donna. I love the BFF dynamic between her and the Doctor. No romance mucking it up, just fun and arguing. :3

Happy to see lots of Donna fans here. I too often run into people who dislike her and I just... don't understand why?? She's excellent! And such a breath of fresh air in NuWho. :x

Mark Kamill March 11th, 2013 12:42 PM

Prolly cause she's the only one who actually stands up to the doctor instead of making him out as some sort of god. I seriously hope Clara is like that with the doctor, considering how this is the first time Nu-Who has a companion from the 1800s.

Alakazam17 March 11th, 2013 1:03 PM

If you've seen the Christmas special...

Spoiler:
Wouldn't that mean that the Clara that will be traveling with the Doctor will be from our time? That's what I understood from watching the last bits of that episode.

Mark Kamill March 11th, 2013 1:10 PM

Yeah it was confusing. I want to know what the hell is going through Moffats mind with the actor playing 3 different parts:
1-As a Dalek in the Asylum
2-As an 1800s waitress who dies
3-As a companion who is seemingly going to be both of those

Hopefully its not a river, cause the time gaps between these eras suggest some time- wimey wibbly wobbly stuff going on, but what? What is it the doctor needs to remember, that the universe gave him not one, but two copies of this girl, and even a 3rd who will travel with him.

Alakazam17 March 11th, 2013 1:57 PM

I could see a few reasons explaining all the seemingly identical women. The least likely is that they're all just related, as I seem to remember Gwen from the Torchwood series also playing a 1800's woman in one of the very first episodes with the 9th Doctor.

More plausibly, I think they all may be dopplegängers, though that theory is still a little iffy because they seem to share more than just physical appearance. But I still see this as being possible, at least more so that my previous suggestion.

And finally, what I believe will be the most plausible explanation, is that she is some glitch in the fabric of space-time, perhaps related to the Doctor moving this way and that way throughout the universe. I can imagine an "omg it's all my fault" scene from the Doctor, especially after what happened to Amy and Rory. Thus I think the Doctor is just being trolled by the universe. :D

Cherrim March 11th, 2013 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7576063)
Prolly cause she's the only one who actually stands up to the doctor instead of making him out as some sort of god. I seriously hope Clara is like that with the doctor, considering how this is the first time Nu-Who has a companion from the 1800s.

I'm not hopeful of that. So far she's already started the Doctor worship because Moffat doesn't know how to write any other type of "strong" female character. :'(

But I've still got my fingers crossed that she'll settle down and not flirt with him 24/7 once she's eased into the role and he's not as new and unknown to her anymore.

Mark Kamill March 11th, 2013 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 7576187)
I could see a few reasons explaining all the seemingly identical women. The least likely is that they're all just related, as I seem to remember Gwen from the Torchwood series also playing a 1800's woman in one of the very first episodes with the 9th Doctor.

More plausibly, I think they all may be dopplegängers, though that theory is still a little iffy because they seem to share more than just physical appearance. But I still see this as being possible, at least more so that my previous suggestion.

And finally, what I believe will be the most plausible explanation, is that she is some glitch in the fabric of space-time, perhaps related to the Doctor moving this way and that way throughout the universe. I can imagine an "omg it's all my fault" scene from the Doctor, especially after what happened to Amy and Rory. Thus I think the Doctor is just being trolled by the universe. :D

I don't think its the universe trolling him, as much as I hope its some kind of huge plot comeback of the Silence. They're memory proof iirc, and the phrase "and remember" hits close to that. I actually doubt they're down for the count, and I'm pretty sure Moffat is gonna pull the rug from under our feet this time round regarding the series finale.

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 7576193)
I'm not hopeful of that. So far she's already started the Doctor worship because Moffat doesn't know how to write any other type of "strong" female character. :'(

But I've still got my fingers crossed that she'll settle down and not flirt with him 24/7 once she's eased into the role and he's not as new and unknown to her anymore.

The worse bit is that when you think about it, the doctor might bite, cause Clara doesn't exactly have a Rory behind her for the doctor to say no. I literally can imagine he would have let amy have her way if it wasn't for Rory, it just felt like what Moffat wanted.

Jake♫ March 11th, 2013 4:40 PM

I think why everyone didn't really like Donna at first was because during Runaway Bride she was kind of just...obnoxious. As far as Season Four goes she grew on me so much, as she developed from annoying temp to actually important character with actual development. The fact that she wasn't falling head-over-heels for the Doctor also helped, since it allowed her to be go through characterization that wasn't just based around him. Sure, he touched her and helped make her a better person (even though her mind was wiped), but it was based upon her growing.

And I'm really hoping Oswin isn't another Doctor-infatuated female character. From what I understand she sort of...respawns in different time lines, with very faint memories of her previous lives. She doesn't know exactly who the Doctor is, but certain characteristics pass on from one life of hers to another.

Aslan March 11th, 2013 9:06 PM

Mmm I can see what Jake is saying! To be honest I hated her at first sight, she was obnoxious, rather rude and a bit bossy I must say, so most people just sort of think she's always like that. But there's character development and she does turn into a wonderful person, although most people probably didn't give her a second chance after that episode. :(

I'm hoping so too. Clara did sort of seem like she was in love with the Doctor already but hopefully, she'll sort of change. I'd like to see a mix of personalities rather than the same falling in love with the handsome guy with a machine called the TARDIS. I mean the first time it was interesting but now it's getting so boring and repetitive. I know the extra throw in of romance is nice, but honestly I want a change. I sort of want Clara to stand out from the rest you know? :x

Cherrim March 11th, 2013 10:03 PM

I guess that's true. I'm kind of lucky (?) in that the first episodes of DW I ever saw were very late in series 4 so Donna had done most of her character development. So even when I went back and watched from the beginning, I knew how she'd turn out so I knew how much slack to cut her as I watched her early episodes. :P
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Originally Posted by Narnia (Post 7576724)
I'm hoping so too. Clara did sort of seem like she was in love with the Doctor already but hopefully, she'll sort of change. I'd like to see a mix of personalities rather than the same falling in love with the handsome guy with a machine called the TARDIS. I mean the first time it was interesting but now it's getting so boring and repetitive. I know the extra throw in of romance is nice, but honestly I want a change. I sort of want Clara to stand out from the rest you know? :x

I agree entirely. I'm fine with romance or crushes here and there but there haven't really been any important females in 11's life that aren't in love with him. I think he just needs a friend since he never even seems interested in anyone's advances. They always seem so awkward and I always get the feeling he's just much more interested in having someone to go on wicked adventures with instead of having to sort through a bunch of romantic issues.

Aquacorde March 11th, 2013 11:02 PM

Username: EternallyAnna
Favourite Doctor: SIXIE BABY and Nine <33
Favourite Companion: Ooh. Um. Hm. Jo Grant & Peri Brown & Donna Noble & Jack Harkness

note: I don't tag spoilers for anything that's been out for over a month

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 7576761)
I guess that's true. I'm kind of lucky (?) in that the first episodes of DW I ever saw were very late in series 4 so Donna had done most of her character development. So even when I went back and watched from the beginning, I knew how she'd turn out so I knew how much slack to cut her as I watched her early episodes. :P

And just think, all of that development is canonically gone. ^___^ /stillupset

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 7576761)
I agree entirely. I'm fine with romance or crushes here and there but there haven't really been any important females in 11's life that aren't in love with him. I think he just needs a friend since he never even seems interested in anyone's advances. They always seem so awkward and I always get the feeling he's just much more interested in having someone to go on wicked adventures with instead of having to sort through a bunch of romantic issues.

Thiiiis is so very, very true. I just don't understand why there has to be romance? Like why was that kiss in the Christmas special necessary at all? There was no real follow-up or any indication that it would lead somewhere or any point to it. All it did for me (and- let me count- all seven of the people I watched it with!) was confuse and irritate.

Oh also can there soon be a companion who doesn't have the universe revolving around them? :x I was hoping Clara would be that (as well as an EarthHistorical!companion) but it seems not to be the case. Well, more than seems. Is not the case.

Mark Kamill March 12th, 2013 6:58 AM

Yeah that's the one thing I hated about Amy and Rory, and I'm kinda miffed that Moffat is doing it for Clara as well. However, the universe seems to not be revolving around her as much as its the universe or some other force(I'm still betting its the Silence behind her appearance everywhere)pushing her into the doctor's life to get him to remember something. Again, the Silence have been forgotten up till now, we still have the Fall of the Eleventh that is a major plot point, so we'll see. Something tells me Clara is gonna be like Rose, in that she is another companion who witnesses the doctors regeneration and travels with the 12th for a season or two.

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7577127)
Yeah that's the one thing I hated about Amy and Rory, and I'm kinda miffed that Moffat is doing it for Clara as well. However, the universe seems to not be revolving around her as much as its the universe or some other force(I'm still betting its the Silence behind her appearance everywhere)pushing her into the doctor's life to get him to remember something. Again, the Silence have been forgotten up till now, we still have the Fall of the Eleventh that is a major plot point, so we'll see. Something tells me Clara is gonna be like Rose, in that she is another companion who witnesses the doctors regeneration and travels with the 12th for a season or two.

YES, I'm not the only one thinking that The Silence is behind this as well. I'm really hoping we see the end of River's saga with the Fall of Eleventh at the Fields of Trenzalore. We know River is there from one of the mini-sodes (Night I think?), so I'm hoping that it would end there for her. As far as Clara and the Silence goes, I really hope it connects the two of their characters somehow, but I have no idea what they'd be able to do with that.

Mark Kamill March 17th, 2013 5:13 PM

If it is the silence, they somehow got her to remember them without the eyepatch. So that there is a start on how they can make them connect. Now how exactly would that work, I dunno. Cloning maybe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQu3MvRySA
Posted this post again thanks to ^, a new trailer. Unst Unst Unst, that 707 bit is amazing. Fields of Trenzalore at the end?!
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/16/doctor-who-trailer-matt-smith/
Same trailer more footage.
http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/new-series-7-part-2-posters-46206.htm
Posters for the first 4 episodes. Hide looks and sounds amazingly horrific.

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 5:36 PM

I have no idea which episode the "I am the Doctor, and I am afraid" line is from, but I'm definitely looking forward to that one the most. If there's something that can genuinely scare the Doctor THAT much, it has to be good.

Mark Kamill March 17th, 2013 5:41 PM

Which part has it? I have no audio. If its in the forest, then yeah that episode looks to spectacular. So much is gonna happen this time, I can feel it.

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 6:32 PM

Yup, it's the forest one. It looks incredible. Honestly I was feeling rather meh about the rest of the season, but after the trailers I can genuinely say I'm pumped up for it.

Mark Kamill March 17th, 2013 6:52 PM

Something also tells me we got a glimpse at some sort of Silent in the trailer, right at :32. I seriously can't wait for this to turn out to be the season of the silence, simply because I love what they mean for the series. Dalek and Cybermen? Eh the doctor is irked and super pissed off at them, but the Silence? Gives him a run for his money, and then some.

And indeed. The trailer does wonders. The series feels so much more grounded, but classic at the same time. Some of the stuff seen though, holy crap. Tardis on a 707? SOLD.

Jake♫ March 17th, 2013 8:36 PM

I feel like the entire first half of season seven has just been very bland. Dinosaurs On A Spaceship was just...ugh. Angels Take Manhattan made me go from loving the Weeping Angels in Blink to hating them. It just gives me hope that Moffat is pulling his head out of his butt and giving us a great season 7.5. Not that the first half is all on him, he didn't write every episode, but as head writer he should be able to change the stuff that was just silly.

Aslan March 17th, 2013 8:50 PM

Season 7 was alright for me, although some of the episodes were rather dull and painful to watch. Angels in Manhattan for me was a tragic but well-thought out episode, you would never expect the Doctor's companions to suddenly poof away, they're giving you the unexpected in my opinion. At least that's from my point of view, I was thinking any minute the Doctor would come in out of nowhere and whisk them to safety before trying to fight off the angels. But it's interesting though the outcome of that episode, because it's usually in most shows at least the good people or the protagonists win without anyone dying or disappearing rather than evil truimphing.

And I don't know Season 7 was good for me at least except for maybe Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, it wasn't particularly special. The only amusing or entertaining part for me was watching the man getting covered in dinosaur saliva and even that's only for a brief part of the episode. I'm hoping Season 7.5 will have a little more action along with interesting episode plots. :3

Aquacorde March 17th, 2013 9:03 PM

Are you kidding? Season 7 was amazing! We had a new kickass Doctor and brilliant ginger scientist Liz Shaw and having the Brig around all the time was awesome!

Er but yeah series 7... not so great. I actually liked the Power of Three best, even though the actual villain was kind of poor. It had just the right amount of cheese and comedy that I like~ And Kate Stewart oh bby girl she has to come back please and thank you. And I'm really sad that we probably won't see Brian again. :( He was just extremely great.

Cherrim March 25th, 2013 11:12 PM

Nothing from the first half of S7 stood out for me much. I guess I liked pretty much any scene with Brian because he's brilliant. The rest... I dunno, I found it really forgettable and if it wasn't forgettable, it's only because I didn't like it and ranted about it a little. So it's been kind of hard to get my hopes up for the latter half but I'm still hoping Clara will be great.

Jake♫ March 30th, 2013 2:03 PM

This just in, David Tennant and Billie Piper will return for the 50th!

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher March 30th, 2013 7:47 PM

Username: DavidtheDeadPhilosopher

Favorite Doctor: Jon Pertwee

Favorite Companion: Captain Jack Harkness

The only two episodes in Series 7 I haven't liked so far is The Ayslum of the Daleks (Perhaps the worst Nuwho episode to date.) and Angels in Mannhatten. It was amazing on it's first view (I was in tears, tbh.), but repeated views suddenly make the episode seem very forced. Although it did handle the Angels alot better than the 2 parter from Series 5.


Spoiler:
I hope that Moffet plans to tread carefully around the 50th. I really don't like the idea of Rose as the companion for the 10th...

Cherrim March 30th, 2013 8:08 PM

I'm excited and also disappointed I was spoilt for the news almost as soon as it broke, haha... although I doubt I'd be able to pay even partial attention to the fandom and not know by the time the 50th Anniv special airs.

Spoiler:
I'm also a bit worried because I know Moffat as a writer never really liked Rose... the episodes he wrote during the Rose era often had her doing exceptionally dumb things or being really jealous/catty/whatever. :( I hope he avoids that in this because that's not what I'm interested in seeing.


(That said, maybe the news should be in spoilers? :P)

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher March 31st, 2013 8:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightning (Post 7602058)
Spoiler:
I'm also a bit worried because I know Moffat as a writer never really liked Rose... the episodes he wrote during the Rose era often had her doing exceptionally dumb things or being really jealous/catty/whatever. :( I hope he avoids that in this because that's not what I'm interested in seeing.

Spoiler:
That's a very good point! I really think that Rose has already been done enough as a character, she's had her twist, and her ending. You bring her back into the 50th ungracefully, we'll be dealing with another retcon. I would of much rather have seen Donna, someone that we can't see really see again considering how she was written out of the show. I suppose that holds true to Rose as well, but it's much easier to say "oh we acually can get back into that mirror-verse" or "Rose and Handy managed to make it out of the verse" then "Oh, Donna, right well, timy wimy remembery doctor." That being said, it's totally viable that Current Martha nad Current Jack can make an apperence...

Cherrim March 31st, 2013 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher (Post 7602737)
Spoiler:
That's a very good point! I really think that Rose has already been done enough as a character, she's had her twist, and her ending. You bring her back into the 50th ungracefully, we'll be dealing with another retcon. I would of much rather have seen Donna, someone that we can't see really see again considering how she was written out of the show. I suppose that holds true to Rose as well, but it's much easier to say "oh we acually can get back into that mirror-verse" or "Rose and Handy managed to make it out of the verse" then "Oh, Donna, right well, timy wimy remembery doctor." That being said, it's totally viable that Current Martha nad Current Jack can make an apperence...

Spoiler:
Well, anything can kind of be retconned by just saying it's part of the original adventure (of Docter [#] and [companion]" that simply wasn't shown on TV. The only problem with it when it concerns Rose is she did have a tendency to get jealous. :/ She got jealous of a FORMER companion... so you just know that if she saw a future companion--one that's, in essence, her replacement--she'd probably flip. I don't think she'd be very fun to reminisce with if she had a plot like that and if she didn't have a plot like that, I don't know if I'd find it as believable. Rose has always come off as selfish (and very human, because of it) so I worry what the dynamic of the episode will be simply because she's the companion there... whether it's "during" her original run with the Doctor or she shows up with Donna!Doctor from that alternate dimension. :s

If the companion were Martha or Donna instead, I don't think we'd have anything to worry about because I think they'd take it really well that the Doctor had a new companion. They were both a bit more level-headed about that sort of thing, I think. So I do kinda wish it was anyone but Rose, the more I think about it. :(

Rebel Rebel April 3rd, 2013 7:41 AM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 7574468)
Username: U_Flame
Favorite Doctor: David Tennant
Favorite Companion: Hmm, toughie. I'd say Amy and Rory. Or just Amy.

Are you me? :laugh: Although I'd lean more towards Rory being my favorite than Amy. Though I guess I should do a proper application:

Username: Radio Rebel
Favorite Doctor: Tennant
Favorite Companion: Rory

ソラ April 3rd, 2013 12:20 PM

Username: コナンくん
Favorite Doctor: Tenth Doctor - David Tennant
Favorite Companion: Rose Tyler - Billie Piper

I recently got into this series. I feel in love with it from the start. I am on season 5 right now. Tenth Doctor is my favorite character, Rose is my second.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher April 5th, 2013 11:58 AM

So does anyone have any remarks on the Series 7-2 Opener. I havn't had the chance to see it yet, but surly someone else here has?

Phantom April 6th, 2013 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7566757)
What is doctor who?


Well I'll tell you who he is, and not what the show is. He's a Time traveler...



He is called 'The Doctor' not 'Doctor Who'. Neither is he called 'Dr. Who'.

Also technically he is not just a time traveller. He travels in space and time, technically if you really think about it he never exists in one place. He honestly can be everywhere at once, even in different incarnations. We're watching 11 right now, but remember, somewhere in space and time, all the others are still living and doing their work. An incarnation of the Doctor is never dead/gone.

Sweet Rassilon, please fix that. In fact, that whole intro... First off, the Doctor isn't even human, you just, ah, happen to not mention that. He looks human (or do humans look Time Lord?)

You know, the Regeneration thing, and two hearts, plus multiple other things.

Seriously, all and all, not the best intro, but if someone is planning on joining the club than they must already know the show in the first place so in theory it's probably not a big deal. You know unless a new person to the show comes along and wonders what it is or something. They might get a bit confused.

Anyways, I was a rather active member in the old thread before it died last season, so I might as well try again.

Username: Seriously? It's up there, see? The top of the post? Next to that picture?
Favorite Doctor: In order fav to least fav; 10, 5, 9, 4, 11, 8, 3, 2, 1, 7, 6.
Favorite Companion: Sarah Jane Smith

I am a true TARDIS blue Whovian.

Thoughts on series seven thus far... I am not impressed in the slightest. (Just like EternallyAnna if it's over two months old I'm not spoiler-ing it) Amy and Rory's leaving was... I felt it was rather half done and the episode moved far too quickly and the plot behind it all was sloppily written.

In fact this whole series has been sub par, and I really expected more of Moffat than this. I just hope this is a small hiccup. What I really hope is that whatever happens, the 50th Anniversary is going to be done well, and in a tasteful manner that won't be ripping out the stll beating hearts of die hard fans who have been watching this show for decades, and even for the new fans who have been watching it for nearly another decade in its reboot.

Also, there are no words to express my rage at the end of season 6. None at all. It almost ruined the show for me. If Moffat can't pull his head out of his ass and fix it they will have lost a die hard fan and simply have gained someone that watches the show.

Mark Kamill April 7th, 2013 12:31 AM

Okay first and foremost, sorry for being inactive, trying to get back into the net. Second, I'll fix the intro, eventually. It was sloppy, and I admit it needs work. Third, welcome all new members. Your names will get on the member list, don't worry. Just need time on my part.

Lord Varion April 7th, 2013 8:04 AM

Username - Nintendork15
Favorite Doctor - Matt Smith (11)

Even though not many people like Matt, they dislike him for the wrong reasons, Mainly because of Moffat's writing. But I do believe he's formed into a lovely persona for the Doctor. :I <3

Favorite Companion - Sarah Jane smith

Just. Sarah. <3

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher April 7th, 2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nintendork15 (Post 7613803)
Username - Nintendork15
Favorite Doctor - Matt Smith (11)

Even though not many people like Matt, they dislike him for the wrong reasons, Mainly because of Moffat's writing. But I do believe he's formed into a lovely persona for the Doctor. :I <3

Favorite Companion - Sarah Jane smith

Just. Sarah. <3

I agree with you entirely. Although I will always have my place in my heart for 10 and 3, 11 has really grown on me as a Doctor. It might not be until the end of his run until I go out and say. "You Know What?... Matt Smith was my favorite Doctor."

Lord Varion April 9th, 2013 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher (Post 7614069)
I agree with you entirely. Although I will always have my place in my heart for 10 and 3, 11 has really grown on me as a Doctor. It might not be until the end of his run until I go out and say. "You Know What?... Matt Smith was my favorite Doctor."

Well, my answer may change soon.
I've been watching the Classic Who's.
I've just finished 'The War Games' I liked the 2nd Doctor through and through. <3

Waiting for Season 7 to get here and I'll watching the 3rd Doctor. <3

Somniac April 9th, 2013 7:29 PM

How did I not know this was here before? I absolutely must join.

Username: Somniac

Favorite Doctor: Out of the original airings I would say Tom Baker [4th doctor] was my favorite, that was until the newer airings where I fell in love with David Tennant. I think Tennant bought an emotion to the doctor that we hadn't seen before, the 'angry / chaotic / in pain' doctor, seen in episodes like 'the runaway bride' or the 'family of blood' [He pushes Mother of Mine out of the TARDIS into the event horizon of a collapsing galaxy, wraps Father of Mine in unbreakable chains forged in the heart of a dwarf star, traps Sister of Mine in every mirror in existence, and suspends Son of Mine as a scarecrow.]

Favorite Companion: I enjoyed Amy as a companion, once Rory because more of an integral part. The two had a good chemistry and they seemed more actual friends to the doctor than companions at points.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher April 14th, 2013 6:52 PM

I just finished watching Cold War! I loved it :3

So what are people's thoughts on Clara so far? Maybe it's just because of my love of Amy and Rory, but I'm just having a hard time getting excited or interested in her character. She was more interesting in her previous incarnations then she is now. Maybe that will develop with the season though...

Cherrim April 19th, 2013 9:42 AM

Clara's alright. I haven't seen Cold War yet (wow I should get on that; new episode is tomorrow), but I really liked her interaction with the little girl in the second episode of this half. I've never really liked the 11th Doctor's interactions with... anyone. He's always just been so awkward and inhuman which is absolutely fine, but something about Clara's genuine warmth with others is just refreshing. Aside from that, I don't really have any opinions on her so far. She's kind of generic as far as characters go. But I've only seen two episodes with this Clara so I don't feel like I can judge yet.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher May 3rd, 2013 10:07 PM

So does anyone else have any more thoughts on recent episodes?

I reallly enjoyed the last two episodes alot! I still think my favorite of the season is Cold War, but Hush and Journey to the Center of the Tardis were both great!

Still can't find a reason to enjoy Clara though... :(

Asuna_Yuuki May 10th, 2013 9:34 AM

Hello, everyone!

Username: Asuna_Yuuki
Favorite Doctor: Ten
Favorite Companion: Donna.

MelchiorFlyer May 12th, 2013 2:30 AM

Omg! Yes!

Username: Checkers_Albino_Umbreon
Favorite Doctor: David Tennant! XDXD
Favorite Companion: Martha Jones. :3

I LOVE this show so much! XD

P.S. Have a random picture! :3

Branellope May 14th, 2013 1:42 AM

Heyy!! I'm in!

Username: Branellope
Favourite Doctor: 11 (I'm a lot like him XD)
Favourite Compaion: Amy or Donna

Cherrim May 15th, 2013 10:02 PM

Hello, new members! n_n

I think the finale is this weekend, right? Was anyone here one of the lucky few whose season blu-rays shipped out early by accident? ;P I'm pretty happy with the fandom for keeping it under wraps despite that. I can't say I'm necessarily super excited for it, but I hadn't watched any episodes in a while so I marathoned everything to catch up from Cold War last week and now I feel a bit empty after so much Doctor Who at once. So it'll be nice to having something new this week.

I think I downloaded a whole bunch of 2nd Doctor stuff recently so I'm excited to watch that because I've liked everything I've seen from him so far. Definitely my favourite of the Classic Doctors I've seen at this point.

Mark Kamill May 16th, 2013 10:17 AM

OMFG so sorry everyone, I have no internet what so ever. Still, the finale should be amazing! Name of the Doctor? I hope not, such a mystery is best left untouched.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher May 16th, 2013 11:40 AM

I adore the Second Doctor, the thing that's a real shame though, is a very large part of his time spent as the Doctor is lost. I mean there are the audio tapes of the episodes for most (as far as I know) of the episodes that were lost, but...it isn't the same.

I just recently bought my first audio recordings of those lost episodes...though it's a First Doctor Story.

alolan vulpix May 29th, 2013 7:07 AM

Oh yes!

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Favorite Doctor: David Tennant! (I don't really like Steven Moffat's writing. At all. I liked the whole River storyline though, but maybe I'm biased because it started with Russell.. lol)
Favorite Companion: Uhhhh... Rose? (Does River count..? XD)

I'm one of those fans that hasn't watched any of the series before the show was restarted. So I won't really get any references beyond scarves and jellybabies :3 I've watched the show since I was 5 though haha.

ソラ June 1st, 2013 1:39 PM

So breaking news about Doctor Who.

Matt Smith announces that he will be leaving Doctor Who

alexithymia June 2nd, 2013 6:23 PM

Username: alexithymia
Favorite Doctor: Nine! <3
Favorite Companion: Hmmm... Donna was the funniest. However, I do have a soft spot for Rose as well!

Pokémon Trainer HoT June 4th, 2013 8:16 PM

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Favorite Doctor: Ten and Eleven
Favorite Companion: Clara Oswald

Seraphimon-sama June 5th, 2013 2:43 AM

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Favourite Doctor: David Tennant
Favourite Companion: Rose Tyler

nimbo June 17th, 2013 6:02 AM

Woo, I love Doctor Who!

Username: nimbo.
Favorite Doctor: The Tenth.
Favorite Companion: It's a tie between Donna Noble and Clara Oswald.

Aslan June 19th, 2013 11:31 PM

Welcome to all you new people!

I remember them announcing that Matt Smith would be leaving Doctor Who, leaving a new Timelord to follow in their footsteps. There have been a few possibilities of him being a female this time, just to twist things around perhaps, so what do you guys personally think about having a female Doctor? Would the concept work/would you approve of it? Or do you think they should just continue to have male Doctors?

Personally I really don't mind. I hope they give the new Doctor an interesting personality and that's all really. What do you guys think? :o

nimbo June 21st, 2013 4:37 AM

I really don't want a female Doctor. Wouldn't be the same.
I do want a male companion though, I'm a little tired of all of the ~*love*~ connections between him and the female companions.

Austin July 14th, 2013 10:13 PM

Username: Ðelta
Favorite Doctor: 10th
Favorite Companion: Rose

hi guys. It looks like this thread hasn't been posted in for a few weeks. Only 1 week away until the "do not post in threads over 1 month old" rule goes into place.

Anyway, I started watching the show a few weeks ago. I'm only about halfway through the fourth series, so I'll try to get caught up and then I'll come back and be more active.
(Oh, and btw although I haven't seen much of Matt Smith, I'm excited to see who the new Doctor will be)

countryemo July 17th, 2013 12:38 PM

Username: CrazyzT
Favorite Doctor: The 11th (Matt Smith)
Favorite Companion: Amy/Rory
I've been a fan of the show for a while, my first episode was rose and I stayed in order from there.

I got a question for you guys, I'm going to use The Name of the Doctor as a example. (Serious spoilers)
Spoiler:
Ok so in the finale the G.I. enters the Doctors timestream and undos his every victory. What if Clara jumping in didn't fix that, How do you feel that everything that happens is reversed. I feel like having the universe in ruins would be a pretty cool story line, think supernatural
Spoiler:
(sorry only fans of spn will maybe understand, s7, s4)

Varion Bluefire August 4th, 2013 12:11 PM

Name: Varion
Favourite Doctor: 2nd (Patrick)
Favourite Companion: Susan.

So, I'm guessing you guys have seen the Doctor Who Live, about 2 hours ago.
What do you all think of Capaldi taking Matt's shoes to fill ?

Austin August 6th, 2013 11:21 AM

I think it's interesting how they cast someone quite older than the previous few incarnations. I can't really judge until his first episode, but I think Capaldi will make for an interesting Doctor.

Cherrim August 31st, 2013 10:49 PM

I am excited. It'll be nice to have an older Doctor in the new series because it might mean they'll finally stop shoving the Companion and the Doctor into romance subplots together. :( I didn't mind it with Rose but it got stale fast after that.

I haven't really seen Capaldi in anything beyond his previous Doctor Who episode but just on that basis, I'm excited to see him if only because Fires of Pompeii was actually my first DW episode ever. (I caught the last 10 minutes or so and was completely hooked, just from that. ♥) I liked his character in that and a lot of people seem really happy about the choice so I can't wait to see how Twelve will be.

Probably an unpopular opinion but honestly, I'm just happy Smith's tenure is gonna be over. I'm not really a huge fan of Eleven.

OmegaTL September 15th, 2013 5:04 PM

Username: OmegaTL
Favorite Doctor: Peter Davison
Favorite Companion: Jamie McCrimmon or Evelyn Smythe

WhiteKnightL October 22nd, 2013 10:43 AM

Application form! (Just started the series)

Username: WhiteKnightL
Favorite Doctor: Ninth Doctor (Christopher Eccleston). It's kind of a shame he didn't like the work environment he was in but I'm glad he's still honored to have played such a FANTASTIC character.
Favorite Companion: Rose Tyler.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher November 15th, 2013 2:36 AM



The Night of the Doctor, for your viewing pleasure.

Eibbor82 November 15th, 2013 3:54 PM

Username: Eibbor82
Favorite Doctor: 10 (David Tennant)
Favorite Companion: Donna Noble, probably. Though if Rory's dad, Brian, counts, I'd say him.

Sopheria November 22nd, 2013 9:25 PM

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Favorite Doctor 11 (Matt Smith)
Favorite Companion Donna Noble :)

Happy 50th anniversary, Doctor Who! Thank you for an AMAZING TV series!

WhiteKnightL November 23rd, 2013 10:17 AM

It's quite a shame I won't be able to watch the Day of the Doctor. At least I got Netflix for my viewing pleasure :)

Who's excited?

Sopheria November 23rd, 2013 11:35 AM

I'm excited. Fifteen minutes, w00t!

WhiteKnightL November 24th, 2013 3:32 PM

Kinda spoiled myself so I pretty much know what happens. Who else loved the special?

Cherrim November 26th, 2013 4:08 PM

I was pleased with the special. I was kind of dreading it because there was a lot of fuss over whether or not it would be a love letter to the series as a whole or just the '05 reboot (or even just Moffat's run from 11 onwards). I'm not very well-versed in Classic Who but I did still recognize a lot of references and since I set my bar pretty low, I was really entertained the whole way through.

Spoiler:
I'm still a little confused as to how the plot of the 50th fits in with the rest of the series... I've mostly got it down but the part that confuses me greatly is how The End of Time fits in now? I'll have to rewatch it but I feel like a lot of what happens in it doesn't make sense anymore if Gallifrey is only hidden instead of being Time Locked in the War. :s

I was also a little disappointed that The Moment chose Rose's face? I'm not a huge fan of Rose so I wasn't disappointed that she came back but I felt like it was really pointless to have her there. I think it would have been more interesting if she was Rose. I'd feel better if it had been Bad Wolf!Rose going back and trying to save the Doctor from the decision she knew he'd regret. Otherwise I just felt like she and John Hurt had no real chemistry? I didn't feel like there was much reason for the Moment to take on that appearance. But maybe I'm just whining because I think it would have been way funnier if it had taken on Donna's appearance and mannerisms instead hahaha.

Complaints aside, I did really enjoy watching it! I was so happy to see Tennant back in the role. He's my Doctor so I was just grinning every time he was on screen. I really liked the dynamics of the three Doctors they showed. I looooved Hurt judging Tennant and Smith's Doctors for being so "childish" and I laughed out loud at Tennant being all "............I have no idea where he comes up with this stuff" to the timey-wimey reference. (And I also lost it at them finally realizing they could run the door analysis through their Screwdrivers for hundreds of years... only for Clara to waltz in and show them the door was unlocked. LOL.)

I don't even know if it made sense but AHHH I LOVED THE SCENE WHEN ALL THE DOCTORS COME TO HELP. It was so cool! I was grinning so wide the whole time and the noise I let out when the war council corrected to "No, all thirteen!" and we got the glimpse of the next Doctor? Ahhhhh that was really cool.

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of what I've seen of Four but my jaw dropped at the end when Tom Baker showed up. :D I can't imagine what that moment must have been like for bigger or older fans of the series.


I had tickets to see it in 3D last night but I ended up downloading the episode and watching it on Saturday ahead of time because aaahhh no way was I gonna avoid the internet for two whole days so I wouldn't get spoilt. Seeing it in theatres was really cool though! The crowd was (almost) the nicest I'd ever seen in a theatre. Everyone squished right in from the start so everyone got as good a seat as they could possibly get and there were lots of cosplays. The only problem with seeing it in theatre with a bunch of huge fans was that sometimes the laughter and clapping made it hard to make out what what was being said on screen... so I'm glad that was my second viewing. :P

*forcibly drags herself away from computer so she'll stop rambling*

WhiteKnightL November 27th, 2013 7:29 AM

As I mentioned, I read up on it and something came to mind.

Spoiler:
If all this time Gallifrey was just hidden and not Time Locked, does that mean that we can expect The Master to come back? And not just him but Rassilon too? Unless there is something I missed after Tenth's last episode, there's a good chance they could be thrown in to face The Doctor again if he ever finds Gallifrey again.....and I'm certain he will.

DavidtheDeadPhilosopher November 27th, 2013 12:09 PM

I saw it in theaters and I was enjoying every single minute!

@Cherrim
Spoiler:
Ok, so The End of Time is happening almost at the same time, if not slightly earlier, then the 50th anniversary in Galifrey's point of view. However, it's happening in two entirely different parts of Galifrey, and being controlled by two different powers of Galifrey. The End of Time was in the Citidal and was the plan of the High Counsel, While the 50th took place on Arcadia, the second largest city of Galifrey, and was mainly under power from the War Counsel. They even made a breif mention to the End of Time, stating that the High Counsel had their own plans, and if memory serves me right, they also stated that it already failed, or was fruitless (I'll fact check later).

So basicly End of Time happens before Day of the Doctor, but in the same day, and that's only from Galifrey's perspective. From the Ten's Doctors perspective, he experiences Day of the Doctor, and then goes immediately to The End of Time (However he doesn't remember the events from Day of the Doctor.)

Cherrim November 27th, 2013 1:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher (Post 7957444)
I saw it in theaters and I was enjoying every single minute!

@Cherrim
Spoiler:
Ok, so The End of Time is happening almost at the same time, if not slightly earlier, then the 50th anniversary in Galifrey's point of view. However, it's happening in two entirely different parts of Galifrey, and being controlled by two different powers of Galifrey. The End of Time was in the Citidal and was the plan of the High Counsel, While the 50th took place on Arcadia, the second largest city of Galifrey, and was mainly under power from the War Counsel. They even made a breif mention to the End of Time, stating that the High Counsel had their own plans, and if memory serves me right, they also stated that it already failed, or was fruitless (I'll fact check later).

So basicly End of Time happens before Day of the Doctor, but in the same day, and that's only from Galifrey's perspective. From the Ten's Doctors perspective, he experiences Day of the Doctor, and then goes immediately to The End of Time (However he doesn't remember the events from Day of the Doctor.)

Spoiler:
Yeah, I caught the reference to it so I was pleased they didn't totally handwave it but what I meant when I said I wasn't sure how it fit in was all the times they didn't mention it.

The 50th kind of treated the decision to use The Moment like it was just for the sake of ending the war. The Doctor was tired of fighting and there was no end in sight and using it would cease all the suffering and ensure the war wouldn't spread any more. This was further cemented by the secondary plot of the special "resolving" by having the humans and the Zygons do their perfect treaty, which I assume is what we were meant to think should have resolved the Time War. But it's not like the Moment was used only because the Time Lords were losing and the Daleks were such a threat. It wasn't used because talks were breaking down or negotiations weren't working properly. It was used because there was no other choice since Rassilon went crazy and negotiatons were impossible. (As I said, I really need to rewatch this for details, haha.)

I guess maybe "hiding" Gallifrey or locking it in a painting is functionally the same as Time-Locking that whole section of the war, so them breaking out in the End of Time still makes sense but the fact that none of the Doctors in the special ever mention this BIG reason to use the Moment instead of looking into other options didn't really sit well with me. :( Ten might not have known what Rassilon was truly up to until the End of Time takes place but Eleven certainly should have remembered why it was so necessary to use the Moment.

I have no problem with reopening that plot strand so we can get the Master back and actually deal with Rassilon instead of just time locking them (I believe that was their fate?), but I think it's something that should have been sort of addressed in SOME way in the special. At least one of those Doctors should have remembered why Gallifrey being ~somewhere out there~ isn't necessarily a good thing. D:


Apologies if a lot of that didn't make sense. I'm really rusty on my DW timeline and I'm not sure I was able to explain myself very well regardless. ;~;'

Esper November 27th, 2013 1:44 PM

I watched the episode with a bunch of people and we were all really unsure exactly what the timeline was or is now, or really what the Time War is or was or where or where is happened (happens?). Very confusing.

Spoiler:
Basically all I'm fairly sure is that Gallifrey is no longer lost and we'll get to have new adventures that involve other time lords. That's good enough for me. I'd love to see them brought back.

I was pretty pleased and surprised to see Tom Baker show up there at the end. I don't know how that's supposed to work with everything we know about Doctor Who. I mean... he regenerated and isn't that supposed to be the end of that Doctor? Why is he older now? (I mean, yes, obviously the actor is older and no amount of makeup would help that.)

Sopheria November 27th, 2013 2:35 PM

It was so good! Day of the Doctor completely defied my expectations. So powerful, and epic, and I have a new found respect for Clara (which I already had a ton of to begin with). It's like she was born to be the Doctor's companion.

Spoiler:
And I'm so happy for The Doctor. He's no longer the wanderer or the renegade. He finally has a goal in his life!


Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteKnightL (Post 7956992)
As I mentioned, I read up on it and something came to mind.

Spoiler:
If all this time Gallifrey was just hidden and not Time Locked, does that mean that we can expect The Master to come back? And not just him but Rassilon too? Unless there is something I missed after Tenth's last episode, there's a good chance they could be thrown in to face The Doctor again if he ever finds Gallifrey again.....and I'm certain he will.

Spoiler:
Not the Master. He wasn't at Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War. He ran away when the Dalek Emperor took control of the Cruciform. The Rassilon could very well come back though. I've always seen the fact that they were just time-locked rather than defeated as kind of a loose end. This is Time Lords, weren't talking about. They found a way out once, they could surely do it again.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Esper (Post 7957608)
I watched the episode with a bunch of people and we were all really unsure exactly what the timeline was or is now, or really what the Time War is or was or where or where is happened (happens?). Very confusing.

Spoiler:

I was pretty pleased and surprised to see Tom Baker show up there at the end. I don't know how that's supposed to work with everything we know about Doctor Who. I mean... he regenerated and isn't that supposed to be the end of that Doctor? Why is he older now? (I mean, yes, obviously the actor is older and no amount of makeup would help that.)

Spoiler:
I thought that was confusing too. But one thing about the Doctor Who Universe, is that they have a record of shamelessly recycling actors to play completely different characters. Freema Agyeman played an extra who died in Doomsday (Adeola), only to come back as a companion to the Doctor in the very next episode (Martha Jones). And the guy who's going to be the 12th Doctor played Caecilius in The Fires of Pompeii, and John Frobisher in The Children of Earth. So it's very likely that this is just one of those "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" things.

Esper November 27th, 2013 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zomgitscathy (Post 7957697)
Spoiler:
I thought that was confusing too. But one thing about the Doctor Who Universe, is that they have a record of shamelessly recycling actors to play completely different characters. Freema Agyeman played an extra who died in Doomsday (Adeola), only to come back as a companion to the Doctor in the very next episode (Martha Jones). And the guy who's going to be the 12th Doctor played Caecilius in The Fires of Pompeii, and John Frobisher in The Children of Earth. So it's very likely that this is just one of those "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" things.

That's a good point. I hadn't thought about that.

Spoiler:
It's just that he was so very much the 4th Doctor with his intense eyes and rambling. He really felt just like the 4th Doctor.

I heard there was an audio drama made for the 50th anniversary that has Doctors 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 so maybe that ties in and helps explain things more.

Cherrim November 27th, 2013 4:49 PM

Spoiler:
I'd easily buy the whole "reusing actors and not mentioning it" thing except the conversation implies that's not the case, imo. Baker's character clearly knows more than a simple curator should about the painting and its meaning (and what the Doctor is supposed to go do) and the part that really stands out:

[Eleven turns and sees him] "I never forget a face."
"I know you don't, and in years to come you may find yourself revisiting a few."

To me that implies that eventually, the Doctor learns how to control regeneration so well that he can take on the appearance of any of his old bodies. I dunno, exactly, but every line of the conversation just oozes the idea that Baker's character is the Doctor and I don't think it makes any sense if you try to view it another way.

The Doctor November 30th, 2013 4:09 PM

Hello.

I'm The Doctor.

basically.


run.



Spoiler:
sup I did not know about this club. My favourite Doctor is Paul McGann ( dear god I love him to bits ), my favourite episode I think is the Eleventh Hour.

The Mighty Kamina December 1st, 2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherrim (Post 7957906)
Spoiler:
I'd easily buy the whole "reusing actors and not mentioning it" thing except the conversation implies that's not the case, imo. Baker's character clearly knows more than a simple curator should about the painting and its meaning (and what the Doctor is supposed to go do) and the part that really stands out:

[Eleven turns and sees him] "I never forget a face."
"I know you don't, and in years to come you may find yourself revisiting a few."

To me that implies that eventually, the Doctor learns how to control regeneration so well that he can take on the appearance of any of his old bodies. I dunno, exactly, but every line of the conversation just oozes the idea that Baker's character is the Doctor and I don't think it makes any sense if you try to view it another way.

Spoiler:
I came away with a different interpretation of that scene. I didn't see the curator as a regeneration shifter, but simply as a future incarnation of the Doctor that has retired from adventuring and revisited his old idea that he could be a curator. Yes, that would mean Tom Baker played two separate incarnations of the Doctor, but hey, I'm not objecting to more Baker!


Also, I'd like to join!

Username: The Mighty Kamina
Favorite Doctor: 11 (Matt Smith)
Favorite Companion: Ace

The Doctor December 1st, 2013 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mighty Kamina (Post 7963905)
Spoiler:
I came away with a different interpretation of that scene. I didn't see the curator as a regeneration shifter, but simply as a future incarnation of the Doctor that has retired from adventuring and revisited his old idea that he could be a curator. Yes, that would mean Tom Baker played two separate incarnations of the Doctor, but hey, I'm not objecting to more Baker!



Spoiler:
I came away with it being that Tom Baker was a retired version of The Doctor and he changed his name to The Curator. He definately knew who the Doctor was at any rate.

Tlachtli December 1st, 2013 9:17 PM

Hey, there's a club! Neat! I'm a fan of the 2005 series but I haven't seen the older episodes, so there are 8 whole doctors I'm not familiar with (yet).

Username: Tlachtli
Favorite Doctor: 10 (David Tennant)
Favorite Companion: Rory (Amy too, but mostly Rory)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidtheDeadPhilosopher (Post 7957444)
I saw it in theaters and I was enjoying every single minute!

@Cherrim
Spoiler:
Ok, so The End of Time is happening almost at the same time, if not slightly earlier, then the 50th anniversary in Galifrey's point of view. However, it's happening in two entirely different parts of Galifrey, and being controlled by two different powers of Galifrey. The End of Time was in the Citidal and was the plan of the High Counsel, While the 50th took place on Arcadia, the second largest city of Galifrey, and was mainly under power from the War Counsel. They even made a breif mention to the End of Time, stating that the High Counsel had their own plans, and if memory serves me right, they also stated that it already failed, or was fruitless (I'll fact check later).

So basicly End of Time happens before Day of the Doctor, but in the same day, and that's only from Galifrey's perspective. From the Ten's Doctors perspective, he experiences Day of the Doctor, and then goes immediately to The End of Time (However he doesn't remember the events from Day of the Doctor.)

Spoiler:
This was basically my take on it. I didn't really think much about it, I just assumed Day of the Doctor happened after they tried (and failed) the plan from End of Time. Since the Moment is what ultimately destroys/saves the planet, it would make sense for it to be the very last thing to happen on Galifrey.

Here's what really bugged me though--if John Hurt was supposed to be the incarnation between Eight and Nine, then why did the Moment appear to him as Rose? The whole Bad Wolf thing had no real meaning to him, because it hadn't happened for him yet and wouldn't happen until after he regenerated into Nine.

The Doctor December 3rd, 2013 2:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tlachtli (Post 7965571)
Hey, there's a club! Neat! I'm a fan of the 2005 series but I haven't seen the older episodes, so there are 8 whole doctors I'm not familiar with (yet).

Username: Tlachtli
Favorite Doctor: 10 (David Tennant)
Favorite Companion: Rory (Amy too, but mostly Rory)



Spoiler:
This was basically my take on it. I didn't really think much about it, I just assumed Day of the Doctor happened after they tried (and failed) the plan from End of Time. Since the Moment is what ultimately destroys/saves the planet, it would make sense for it to be the very last thing to happen on Galifrey.

Here's what really bugged me though--if John Hurt was supposed to be the incarnation between Eight and Nine, then why did the Moment appear to him as Rose? The whole Bad Wolf thing had no real meaning to him, because it hadn't happened for him yet and wouldn't happen until after he regenerated into Nine.

Spoiler:
Right you need to go back and watch it since you clearly weren't listening. The Moment appears to 8.5 as Rose because she says that she gets past and future mixed up, meaning it didnt know where Rose appeared in his timeline. Also, DotD happens after the Voyage of the Damned but before End of Time. These made so much sense to me I don't understand how people don't get that

WhiteKnightL December 9th, 2013 9:20 AM

So, who can't wait for the Christmas special?

Spoiler:
Personally, I can't imagine the Silence, Daleks, and Cybermen all in one episode. We already know what happens when you pit the Daleks and the Cybermen with each other. And as we all know, this is Matt Smith's last episode as The Doctor. It'll be sad to see him go.

What do you expect Peter Capaldi's Doctor to be like? I expect him to be a little darker than his past incarnations though probably less than Eccleston. And I can see him gaze through his wardrobe when he changes - he'll probably hate most of his outfits, spot some Roman garbs and ponder for a bit before moving on to the next one. After all, he was in the Tennant episode "Fires of Pompeii."

Mark Kamill December 9th, 2013 3:33 PM

Wait, somehow this thread is still alive after 10 months of my absence? You know what, I'm not even annoyed, just purely amazed. Will update with all new members, sorry for the poor caretaking!

The Mighty Kamina December 9th, 2013 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteKnightL (Post 7979008)
So, who can't wait for the Christmas special?

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Personally, I can't imagine the Silence, Daleks, and Cybermen all in one episode. We already know what happens when you pit the Daleks and the Cybermen with each other. And as we all know, this is Matt Smith's last episode as The Doctor. It'll be sad to see him go.

What do you expect Peter Capaldi's Doctor to be like? I expect him to be a little darker than his past incarnations though probably less than Eccleston. And I can see him gaze through his wardrobe when he changes - he'll probably hate most of his outfits, spot some Roman garbs and ponder for a bit before moving on to the next one. After all, he was in the Tennant episode "Fires of Pompeii."

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Don't forget about the Angels, the episode seems to insinuate at least one will be involved. I imagine the Silence will recruit some unaffiliated Cybermen and Daleks for the mission of exterminating the Doctor, but as for the Angel, I have no idea, since it seems impossible to plot with them for anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, but isn't this the first encounter 11 has had with the Daleks since he was wiped from their memory banks?

countryemo December 9th, 2013 6:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Doctor (Post 7968622)
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Also, DotD happens after the Voyage of the Damned but before End of Time. These made so much sense to me I don't understand how people don't get that

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Day of the Doctor takes place during the End of Time, but its before the end of time at David Tennants view point.


I really liked the Special. I don't see the point in talking in spoilers anymore? I guess new fans still come on.
While I do love Smith as my favorite Doctor I can't wait for the new direction that Moffat and Capaldi will bring the show. We already got a hint of it with Hurts' character.

As for the Christmas special,
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It looks like its going to be really dark with a huge war. Its going to feature the Silence, Weeping Angels, Daleks, Cybermen (Wooden Cybermen) And possibly Sontarans (Their ship is in the sky). The sky looks like the ships in the Pandorica Opens. Theres a young version of Madam Kavarian?
Looks like Moffat is wrapping Matt all up before Capadli.

Also Moffat says Matt's the last Doctor but in DotD when Capadi shows up the timelords say all 13. Meaning Capaldi is the last. MOFFAT!

The Mighty Kamina December 9th, 2013 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by countryemo (Post 7980001)
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Also Moffat says Matt's the last Doctor but in DotD when Capadi shows up the timelords say all 13. Meaning Capaldi is the last. MOFFAT!

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I'm certain there's going to be some finangling about the Doctor's regenerations in the episode. I'm assuming he's going to do something to get more regenerations, or perhaps River's exhausted regenerations will be cited.

Mark Kamill December 11th, 2013 6:18 PM

[SPOILER]Something tells me its got to do with the fact that Galifrey is not actually gone, but really in hiding. I mean the time lords might have realized what happened, and either gave him an extension, or the huge history detour did something with the time streams. Factor in the silence and Trenzalore next ep and I think we have a plot stewing![SPOILER]
Just saw the 50th special. My god, what an episode.

WhiteKnightL December 16th, 2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Elendil (Post 7979686)
Wait, somehow this thread is still alive after 10 months of my absence? You know what, I'm not even annoyed, just purely amazed. Will update with all new members, sorry for the poor caretaking!

Just update your first post and add us all in it x3 Would love to put this club as my first one on my profile..

Mark Kamill December 16th, 2013 1:14 PM

All new(really old :p) members added to the first post! Let me say an official welcome to all who love who, and may our thread endure the test of time!

Christopher December 17th, 2013 3:57 PM

Username: Christopher
Favorite Doctor: 11th
Favorite Companion: Rose

Figured I'd go ahead and join, I'd seen the link but was afraid to join because of spoilers, I haven't seen Day of the Doctor yet. (Damn cable company)

Mark Kamill December 17th, 2013 3:59 PM

Haha, don't worry Chris, as you can tell we're spoiler conscious in here. And welcome to the club by the way!

xVaporeon December 17th, 2013 11:34 PM

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Favorite Doctor: 10th
Favorite Companion: Donna.. oh god that episode still brings back memories D:

WhiteKnightL December 18th, 2013 7:16 AM

Hello, Chris. Nice sig, btw. Just don't stare at it too much or it might become real .____________.


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