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Lipstick Vogue May 8th, 2016 3:19 AM

Nah, no chance. Any confidence that was left in the squad has completely drained away. We're going down 2 years older and less talented than last time.

Last time we went down we only lost Snoddy and Fer, this time it'll be worse. Olsson and Redmond will be going into the last year of their contracts so will be sold. Klose has a pretty low release clause by all accounts so he'll go, especially if he has a good game at the Euros. Naismith has one too although I doubt it'll be triggered. Howson and Brady are probably the only others that could be in demand. Wisdom, Bamford and Mbokani will all return to their parent clubs. Whittaker is out of contract.

On the bright side I see Josh and Jacob Murphy have had good seasons at MK and Coventry, Josh won their POTS. That Maddison kid can be blooded here too, we'll be needing somebody to fill that Hoolahan void soon, he turns 34 just after the season finishes.

Wonder how long until the Jonathan Kodjia/Nahki Wells to Norwich rumours start.

Eruption May 8th, 2016 5:11 AM

Well at least you'll still have Wessi and Jerome should be good in the Championship again. I would make you the favourites to go up unless there's some really unexpected departures.

Would you like Neil to stay? It's hard to tell if he has done a good job because the squad seems a bit weak.

Lipstick Vogue May 8th, 2016 6:20 AM

He's made some strange decisions this year, leaving Hoolahan and Redmond out for Sunderland being the killer, but yeah, I'd certainly keep him. He lost his way a bit after the Newcastle game early in the season but I can't see the board appointing better.

Holy shit, just taking a look at our forums now and it appears I missed some drama last night. Our CEO told a fan he'd resigned over twitter before making a u-turn in another tweet a while later. Some saying it was a hack but I think he was a bit pissed and pissed off. I'm sure people are going to use this to beat the club but I'm going to take it as a sign of him caring....or something like that. I've said many times that McNally is the most important person at this club and that hasn't changed. However unprofessional that was I'm glad he's not gone.

Eruption May 8th, 2016 7:14 AM

Well if Neil stays that should give you a stability advantage over Newcy/Villa as well. That McNally thing seems about as strange as Karanka's U-turn earlier in the season.

illumine May 8th, 2016 5:28 PM

Middlesbrough getting through is a relief. They generally seemed to be a decent team for the Premiership. Honestly you sort of wonder if they just stayed in the Championship because Karanka has a history with a side associated with the 'Galacticos,' and so decided that the 'Championship' sounded more impressive.

They generally started playing a fairly solid game with a congested midfield last season, and it's seemingly worked out well for them. It made it hard for other Championship clubs to make as much of their possession, but we'll see if they try it out in the Premiership or default to the usual mid-table approach of trying to look like Norwich or Everton. They can occasionally swarm opponents in a fairly unique way, and generally look quite different in approach, although they don't always keep defensive positioning in this kind of structure. It does have the potential to give them offensive breaks, though, which has usually been able to balance this out.

Speaking of which, Brighton's goal was eerily reminiscent of one of Middlesbrough's against Birmingham last time. They have shown some vulnerabilities against set-pieces, which can be a problem for newly-promoted sides, so hopefully they get that down alright, as it were.

If Leicester can win the league, surely Everton are at least due each a personal knighthood for their service to the league over recent years?

Lipstick Vogue May 9th, 2016 12:16 AM

>If Leicester can win the league, surely Everton are at least due each a personal knighthood for their service to the league over recent years?

u wot m8

Eruption May 9th, 2016 12:45 AM

Yeah I'm a bit confused by that last sentence myself.

I would guess that we'll stubbornly proceed with Karanka's tactic regardless of whether it works or not. We're very good defensively using it, but it's just a case of upgrading our attacking quartet to compete in the Premier League. If Downing plays like he did this season then he will be terrible in the PL and Adomah probably isn't good enough but should be a useful squad player. Hopefully we can get Gaston back and he might show his true potential.

Lipstick Vogue May 9th, 2016 3:39 AM

So McNally has gone. Back to being a professional club run by amateurs then.

We won't be coming back up next season.

Sirenita55 May 10th, 2016 11:14 AM

United vs West Ham delayed, MU's team bus has been attacked by some hooligans throwing bottles apparently.

illumine May 10th, 2016 12:55 PM

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United vs West Ham delayed, MU's team bus has been attacked by some hooligans throwing bottles apparently.
Poor Manchester United. They must be huddling together in fear that it might be the European Union.

At least it's not the usual blasé attitude that has marked most proceedings in Manchester United of late. Would be interesting if one of such hooligans took over the club in the form of Jose Mourinho.

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Originally Posted by Lipstick Vogue (Post 9232858)
>If Leicester can win the league, surely Everton are at least due each a personal knighthood for their service to the league over recent years?

u wot m8

Drawing on the sense in which Everton pretty much invented and stabilised the mid-table mould that ascended to the Premiersip title this season in the form of Leicester. It was meant sort of in the light of the threat of any Championship club in the Premiership ending up resorting to trying to play like such clubs. Few clubs play consistently like Everton other than Everton, over the same length of time.

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We're very good defensively using it, but it's just a case of upgrading our attacking quartet to compete in the Premier League.
This might depend on how far they want to go with it, given that they are a side with considerable history in the Premier League. There might be a certain push to establish a solid presence there, or they might just settle for something like mid-table.

FireSnow May 11th, 2016 11:34 AM

Congrats to Sunderland so far. Playing great right now! Hopefully they keep it up and see the game all the way through

Eruption May 11th, 2016 11:37 AM

Well barring any dramatic Everton comeback here, it's all over for Norwich and Newcastle. Shame as well as it seems like Norwich are having a real fight for it tonight (I mean it's a shame anyway but you know).

Are you trying to suggest Everton deserve a title for playing exciting football despite being a bit crap? If not I'm even more confused.

I would not be surprised if we had a real go at it next season. After seeing clubs like Bournemouth survive and also seeing what Leicester have accomplished, I fancy Gibson to throw a decent wedge of money towards transfers and have a serious attempt at finishing top half in the first season back. Of course I would just be happy with surviving, but it does seem like the right time for promoted sides to have a shot at something more. I fancy us to do better than Burnley because of how they tried to stay up with limited spending last time and that we've seen relatively little success from their scouting network. I have no doubt they'll spend more this time having learned their lesson, but I can foresee them spending it poorly.

Lipstick Vogue May 11th, 2016 11:38 AM

Away to Burton Albion on a cold Tuesday night isn't so bad.

Eruption May 11th, 2016 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lipstick Vogue (Post 9237403)
Away to Burton Albion on a cold Tuesday night isn't so bad.

That's the way I was phrasing it when I feared we might not go up.

It's a shame Sunderland's deciding match has came against clueless Martinez.

Lipstick Vogue May 11th, 2016 11:47 AM

Everton will batter us now, not that it'll matter.

Banz May 12th, 2016 10:28 PM

Congratulations Sunderland. 4th consecutive time they have surived a close relegation battle. The last match was just a formality with the way Everton are going. No reason why Norwich can't win at Goodison on the last day, Everton have nothing to play for.

Eruption May 13th, 2016 12:56 AM

Well Everton might (probably won't) have a new manager to impress now. Norwich will probably be pretty down and not interested in an irrelevant match.

It looks like they're all being pushed out now, Quique Flores confirmed to leave. I was hoping he'd stay on and continue this run of form into next season.

AcesHigh89 May 13th, 2016 7:51 AM

Mackems always float at the bottom. I'm kind of glad Newcastle got sent down, we can kind of start fresh. Last time, we came right back up and finished 5th a few years later, but Mike Ashley happened.

Xherdan May 15th, 2016 12:01 PM

Let's all give a big clap for Tottenham Hotspur, the disgrace of the season!

Lipstick Vogue May 15th, 2016 12:51 PM

Certainly was a spectacular implosion from Spuds over the last couple of weeks. They went supernova.

Unsurprisingly I'm glad the season is finally over. Roll on the rebuild. Roll on the Euros.

Gandhi Savage May 15th, 2016 2:09 PM

As an Arsenal fan I am, of course, delighted with Tottenham's capitulation! However from a selfish point of view I feel like Giroud's hat-trick today is masking our need for a forward even more! He went fifteen (15!) Premier League games without a goal this year and while he has many positives he has more than a few gaping flaws that counteract it - namely: his lack of consistency! People on my Twitter timeline have gone as far as to say he was our best player this season... What do you guys think? I'm curious


AcesHigh89 May 15th, 2016 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TurkishDelight (Post 9244341)

As an Arsenal fan I am, of course, delighted with Tottenham's capitulation! However from a selfish point of view I feel like Giroud's hat-trick today is masking our need for a forward even more! He went fifteen (15!) Premier League games without a goal this year and while he has many positives he has more than a few gaping flaws that counteract it - namely: his lack of consistency! People on my Twitter timeline have gone as far as to say he was our best player this season... What do you guys think? I'm curious


Ozil was the best this season from Arsenal, but Giroud certainly is the best looking..

Gandhi Savage May 16th, 2016 5:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AcesHigh89 (Post 9244518)
Ozil was the best this season from Arsenal, but Giroud certainly is the best looking..

It just doesn't get much dreamier than Olivier does it? He's a very, very handsome man.


AcesHigh89 May 16th, 2016 6:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TurkishDelight (Post 9245057)

It just doesn't get much dreamier than Olivier does it? He's a very, very handsome man.


My 3 favorites are him, Big Sexy Mario Gomez, and Zlatan... All 3 are quite handsome.

Gandhi Savage May 16th, 2016 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AcesHigh89 (Post 9245147)
My 3 favorites are him, Big Sexy Mario Gomez, and Zlatan... All 3 are quite handsome.

Oooh Mario Gomez is a fantastic shout! I have to throw Cristiano into the mix too as he looks like he's made of stone hahaha



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