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I also want members to know that we encourage them to come talk to us about these things and let their ideas be acknowledged rather than forgotten. To know that they can do more if they want to and we can help them out too. Anything that allows people to come together and contribute to the forum in ways of boosting its activity while enjoying what they're doing is always welcome in my opinion. |
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This sounds like a wonderful idea in my opinion. It would certainly make participating in the community more actively a lot easier, especially if we can easily tap into the staff for promotion of our approved events and just make for a better experience in the dry spells between events like GTs or CommDays or whatever other events are held by staff on any regular basis. This would also serve to help members to stand out from the crowd, and maybe contribute more even if they don't feel they'll ever be modded. I certainly feel that way.
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I also think it is a good idea. I'm an example of dwindling involvement on PC. :D (Though my reason is work related stuff. The site is a great place ;)
I still think it would be beneficial to let people carry more responsibility and maybe give them a bit more freedom in how they can add to the site, I think it would probably pull them back on here more often because they'll feel like their input actually counts. Of course, everything still needs to remain in order and you can't have everyone just doing what they want, so I hope it is possible to find a middle ground on this. |
If you want to get involved more; you're perfectly welcome to approach a staff member about hosting a competition, sharing an idea, offering to host a new claim thread, or offering a suggestion. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to do this, so hopefully this thread shows that a bit more.
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It's one thing to have initiative, but it's another to actually get people behind you on it as well. It gets discouraging after a while when people are all over the place, but never really committed to anything aside from whatever they're already doing, which I again think has more to do with the general atmosphere of the board.
It's like being at a concert where you all like the same band (in theory), but everyone's in a bubble messing around with their iPhones or something tuning everything else out. That's why I'd like to see more involvement, there's a lot of potential here, but it's just scattered all over without a lot of unification. Aside from the fan games/hacks and RPs, but that's about it. |
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I think that if you just host it alone for the first few runs, people will start to recognize if it's good or not, and they'll start pitching in. It's like hosting anything - if you wanna, you gotta start it by yourself. |
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I know in Fourth Gen I'v eset up an events suggestion thread, (albeit not a lot of replies), where any member can suggest ideas for future events in the section. I might actually make it simply an ideas plus feeback thread, because I'd also like to hear some possible improvements that could be made to 4th Gen. Within these threads I've been given a few event ideas that I've discussed with their owners, and have been slowly planning their release. More importantly, I've let those who suggested the event, host it themselves (that includes creating the content of the thread (which I'll look through/correct if need be), because it wouldn't be fair if I hosted it, because well...it wasn't my idea.
But anyway, I'm getting off-topic. What I'm really trying to get to here is, that we've already started from some sort of a platform. There are already ways which members can acquire more responsibility than simply posting and running off to the next section. Perhaps if we can find a way to emphasise that there are opportunities out there. In saying that, perhaps every section should create more of these oppotunities by creating an event suggestion thread of their own? Plus the thread will in a way, lessen the hesistation of a member to suggest their idea(s) because they wouldn't be discussing it with that staff member directly. In regards to a permanent rank...I'm a little iffy on that. Essentially, if we're picking moderators to moderate, which is causing a gap between moderator and member contriution, then surely if we're promoting certain members to a 'EO rank' permanently that will only cause another gap between members with no responsibility, member with responsibility and then moderators. It will only chop the gap into pieces, rather than reducing it. (But that's just me) I'm all up for this 100%. Just not through ranks. |
I'd like to mention that A&D already has something like this going on now.
Jetstream9777, with assistance from Kriegstein, launched a PC fakedex project, which had nothing to do with myself or Derozio. It was a good idea and he went for it, and now it's evolved into quite the exciting little pseudo-event. I suppose it's relevance to this conversation depends on how you view things, but I'm looking at this project more like an actual "PC Pokedex" not just a fakedex for someone's personal gain. My point is, member involvement in different sections already exists, but more is always better. I'd love it if more members became involved. :) I think one thing that will be invaluable would be to increase the flow of communication between members and staff. All that said, I'm going to agree with Curious on ranks. Maybe it's just me, but it kind of sounds like we'd be rewarding members for being active.. which we already have methods in place to do so, you know? That, and I feel like it would bring "members closer to staff", as opposed to bringing "staff closer to members", if that makes any sense. |
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Isn't the point of this whole thing that members have more freedom/better attitudes to helping around the forums/organising events, rather than doing stuff in order to work towards a supporter rank?
Not to mention that the majority of the people who would honestly get off their asses and help probably have a supporter rank anyway. |
I am completely against offering supportership as a reward for anything. I think it should be reserved for strictly donations. It's not some prize to be won, and I hate that it's become one.
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Ugh no, if this happens I'd strongly push against supportership purely because it isn't a reward whatsoever. Being able to help out with things, being able to make your mark on PokeCommunity is much more rewarding than a green username. I only offer supporterships for my events because I think otherwise people won't enter them :/ But if a way of rewards was in place that'd change fo sure.
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Ok it seems like my suggestion got lost in the pile a while back so I'll bring it up again with a bit more explanation:
What about an event subsection that anyone can post to, yet the section is moderator-approved only, kind of like how Other Clubs works? Like it needs a certain type of criteria to run, and needs to be passed by a mod to run too. However it can still be open to anyone who wants to host something PC related as long as they're willing to withhold PC rules even if it's on another program (skype) or website (oekaki chatroom)? |
When I mentioned ranks I didn't mean something visible like a Supporter, but something hidden like the Beta Testers usergroup. :x Just clarifying. I didn't mean it for incentive purposes, but for organizational purposes.
It depends on what you're trying to do here. I thought the goal was to make it clear that contributions from members are welcomed, while it seems your goal is to actually make there some kind of reward of some sort for members to contribute. |
I wouldn't want it to be something visible because I wouldn't want members pining for organizing events just to have certain status on the forum. That's just my fear about it.
I don't think the community events particularly NEEDS to be constantly crazily active. It can be a subsection under community announcements (which in itself is not that active but very valuable) and even if it's updated just for small events (international talk like a pirate day, videogame day, mod appreciation day, whatever else someone wants to host) it would be great IMO and way more organized than just adding something to Other Polls/ Chitchat section or having it scattered around the forums (like GE competitions I dont even know are going on until like Mr. Catdog makes a blog about it or something.) |
Maybe there could be a section similar to the birthdays where current events are listed?
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And yeah, of course lots more activity would be helpful.. hmm.. maybe we could have both? Event Organizers would be like mod-helpers for that section while others are free to post too? I don't know what the VIP forum is like, sorry.. Tier 2 supporters can't see it.. but I think I understand what you mean. I guess it is just up to what the moderators would prefer..? |
I'm new to this and can anyone tell me what's the difference between mods and normal members?
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Check this :) Also there's a Quick Questions sticky where questions like this actually go (at the top of this forum!) |
I'd like to point out a few things:
Ok, so it seems like some people are still not sold on having an events subsection somewhere and I can sort of understand why. However, let me point out that such sections have existed before for the purposes of organizing all manners of events in the "Get Together" events and such. I believe that such a subforum would allow members to suggest events, create them and submit them for approval. Once submitted and the post is reviewed and approved by the section moderator(s) for viability and compliance; the thread would have a month to organize a staff member to second it, organize as many members/staff members as necessary to run the event smoothly, collect sufficient members expressing interest in joining the event and setting up a time/date to have the event. If after a month, the event falls through then the thread would need to be re-submitted for approval by PMing the mod and reposting the thread if necessary. I don't believe such a section has to be active, as it's purpose is to allow members to host their own events that they'd be interested in. It would eliminate the need to wait, and provide staff a framework to submit their own events as well if they wish to hold an event outside of the usual normal timeframes of holidays and get together sort of events. Not to mention moderators running events in their own sections wouldn't need to use the subforum to get their event approved, they could just announce them there to get eyes on their section because of an event. So events that would otherwise be overlooked because they're posted in a sticky in your section would get some exposure because people would be looking to the events subforum to look into events they might find interesting. So everybody wins, and it saves the administrative overhead of hiding and unhiding a forum come "Get Together" season. |
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