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LocksmithArmy April 29th, 2013 1:54 PM

Pokemon - FireRed +Plus (orange)
 
Lets try this again (got more time to write it up right)

http://lsaentertainment.yolasite.com/resources/Title%20Screen.PNG

Pokemon - FireRed +Plus is a hack of Pokemon - FireRed (obviously) but the difference is the added content.

The useless Sevii Islands have been removed and replaced with the Orange Islands.

My story:
Spoiler:

One day I decided to watch all the pokemon anime episodes (up through johto anyway) and after Ash lost at the Indigo Plateau, he did not go to Johto, he went to the Orange Islands... as a gamer, not a tv watcher, I was completely unaware... and upset that these islands never made it into a game like they should have.
Granted the gym battles were silly, and there were only 4... there should still be some events in the Orange islands in the games... its a nice area that is completely skipped over...
I decided to find a hack that was based on this portion of the world that was forgotten, and it was brought to my attention that no good ones exist... there is aparently a poor hack in spanish and SEVERAL half made games where the hacker gave up mid way through the hack...
What was left to do but make my own hack involving the orange islands ;). I am removing the Sevii Islands and adding the Orange Islands on the end of the game.


Games story
Spoiler:
after defeating the e4 oak sends you to pick up the gs ball (just like in ash's adventure) but once you are there the story changes completely...
Once you dock in Valencia, you head up a winding path to visit Prof. Ivys lab... she is about to give you the GS Ball when team rocket strikes...
They hit hard defeating the professor and stealing the GS Ball before you can react to save it. Ivy mentions something about abnormal pokemon before you head off in hot pursuit.
Next you hit Mikan Island, where you cannot pass without fighting the gym leader Cissy in a dual match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EN4fn3gz65k

League info
Spoiler:
Each Gym leader in the Orange League has 6 pokemon and fights in a dual match, till all 6 of their pokemon are defeated. each gym leader has 2 types and fights generally with 1 of each type on the field. The champion of the Orange Crew has no type restriction, just a 6 on 6 dual match.


There is so much planned for this hack it will be exciting for players to finally get to play through all of the orange league. there will be cameo aperances from memorable pokemon from the anime (crystal onix and pink rhyhorn) and also team rocket will have "altered" pokemon that will be a challange to defeat. while you cannot go to all of the islands ash went to, this extra content should prove enjoyable and challanging for most pokemon fans.

Features:
Spoiler:
The Pokedex has been REDUCED to 251... anyone over celebi will not be registered. infact I have used some of the space for other things so if you trade in (somehow) someone over 251 it will likely be glitched up. (probalby still usable, just looks funny and wont grow right)
Superpowered evil rocket pokemon
new challenges and puzzles
Able to skip the game reset after the credits (useful for emus that cannot in game save)
and much more


Screenshots:


Videos:


I am not really looking for help, to be honest the hard work is already finished(adding pokemon, sprites and editing certian aspects of how the game works, aswell as removing all instances of sevii from kanto and reworking how the boatman works and most of the complicated stuff), I simply have to make the maps and string the story together. I would love to hear ideas of fun things to add in the Orange Islands to make the game more fufilling... if you have any.

the story is not 100% yet, I have you chasing team rocket all the way to mandarin island where they will be mining gold and silver (which is a mask for their real goal of finding lugia and hooh) but I dont know how that is all going to play out. we shall see when I get there (putting the finishing touches on Mikan island now, got a ways to go before I get to mandarin)

Here is a map that I will update as more of the world gets made... you can check the progress by watching the map grow.:
http://lsaentertainment.yolasite.com/resources/1ORANGE%20ISLANDS.jpg

Credits
Spoiler:

anyone who made a tool I have used
karatekid552
lizzzz
sharshar

oathkeeper April 29th, 2013 7:03 PM

This looks great! im looking forward for the completion of this :D

Mr. Black April 30th, 2013 1:21 AM

Sounds good since orange islands have never appeared in a game ( excluding hacks : pokemon naranja and orange generations which were never complete )
But since it adds only new post-e4 story ,it's not a major overhaul and it retains the fire red story I think it should be moved in Sideshow Showcase.

Saltsas April 30th, 2013 2:09 AM

well your idea is nice since there isn't any complete hack with the orange islands as the guy said above me, but in my opinion you should change somehow the main story because there are too many hacks based on fire red.I don't think there are still many people that would play all over again the same old fire red with an extra story after the e4.So I think that you should either add something more or this should be moved to sideshow Showcase(?).
Anyways good luck with it!

The Corrupt Plague April 30th, 2013 2:29 AM

Sounds really good so far. I'll definitely be watching this thread. What's funny is that I saw this right when I was thinking about playing Ultra Violet. I wish you the best of luck!

4thGenAce:D April 30th, 2013 4:43 AM

Umm. Just a suggestion, no offense but, if you want this hack to be more appreciated, more enticing to play, and worth the wait, add more personal detail into it. Add better tiles, change the sprites, change the storyline a bit if you still want to retain the FR flavor. Everybody wants a graphically sweet hack.

Anyways, more power! I will be playing it whatever happens though.

Aryan143 April 30th, 2013 6:48 AM

Looks a like a good idea. Naranja was never finished. I hope this hack will bring adventure of Orange Island. I can't wait for it to be completed.

Eren Jaeger April 30th, 2013 6:51 AM

Hey, Orange island! Hey, I'll wait for this one. Good luck there!
you're the guy with brains.

AmazingCharizard April 30th, 2013 6:54 AM

Would be nice if you include Cassidy&FutchButch and Jessie&James instead of the generic grunts.
How much is actually complete?
Looking forward to play this.

LocksmithArmy April 30th, 2013 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazingCharizard (Post 7645000)
How much is actually complete?
Looking forward to play this.

as far as story and maps...
I just finished Mikan island (might add a few more trainer battles)
which is where you get your first orange league fight... its on to make more ocean, then I have 3 more "less important" islands before the largest island with the most story will be (mandarin island) then another 3 islands after (9 total islands but I am considering more)

I have finished most of the inserting of everything I will need, unique pokemon, all gym leaders, most of their sprites (I am saving a few of them to see if I need 1 frame 3 or all 8) all the "game altering" is done

just know all your suggestions are being read and considered... as far as moving the thread, thats not my decision (if a mod moves it then it gets moved, no big deal)

L0RD G3NGAR April 30th, 2013 7:14 AM

So pikachu will be the starter? Also please make it so all the legendary pokemon at that pwriod of time are able to be caught. Also please add pokemon contest in most citys. Like the show. And mabye have your main pokemon in party walk with you,

Tcoppy April 30th, 2013 4:25 PM

Ah, another attempt at an "Orange Island" hack I see. I think this will be the first completed one, as long as you don't give up anyway. One question though...
Quote:

there is aparently a poor hack in spanish
Do you mean Pokemon Naranja? The 2005 HOTY?

karatekid552 April 30th, 2013 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7645024)
So pikachu will be the starter? Also please make it so all the legendary pokemon at that pwriod of time are able to be caught. Also please add pokemon contest in most citys. Like the show. And mabye have your main pokemon in party walk with you,

You don't know too much about hacking, do you? Walking with pokemon is extremely complex and the ASM involved has only been done right twice, and both have not been released for the author's personal opinions.

Pokémon contests would also involve a ton of work. There is a good chance that most of the data for them that was present in RS will have been removed. These won't be fun to put back.

I don't mean to come off as condecending, but I am merely stating the facts.

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Hey James, looks pretty good. I have completely played Naranja, and I must say, it was decent, however it was riddled with bugs and errors. Granted, it was released a long time ago. So, withen the circumstances of its time, it was pretty decent, however it won't be able to match the new things that have been discovered and refined. I wish you the best of luck!

Also, Liquid Crystal has the Orange Islands in it. They aren't finished yet, but they might give you some competition:p, Jambo and LaZ know their crap, haha.

LocksmithArmy April 30th, 2013 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoppy (Post 7645536)
Ah, another attempt at an "Orange Island" hack I see. I think this will be the first completed one, as long as you don't give up anyway. One question though...

Do you mean Pokemon Naranja? The 2005 HOTY?

yes naranja is the hack I was referring to... I have not played it myself but from what I have read (and talked with people who have played it) the translated version was lacking and the game overall was unfinished... and while in 05 it may have been something wow, now it is less than impressive and really just needs to be redone...

on another note... i ran into a huge problem... it apears that maps can only have 4 map connections... which is an issue for making awide open (freerange) ocean... I will have to remake some of the maps and make the rest interact creatively... instead of having 3 maps to make valencia, it will have one big one... its going to get complicated but in the end I think I can still do everything I have planned...

L0RD G3NGAR May 1st, 2013 7:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karatekid552 (Post 7645587)
You don't know too much about hacking, do you? Walking with pokemon is extremely complex and the ASM involved has only been done right twice, and both have not been released for the author's personal opinions.

Pokémon contests would also involve a ton of work. There is a good chance that most of the data for them that was present in RS will have been removed. These won't be fun to put back.

I don't mean to come off as condecending, but I am merely stating the facts.

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Hey James, looks pretty good. I have completely played Naranja, and I must say, it was decent, however it was riddled with bugs and errors. Granted, it was released a long time ago. So, withen the circumstances of its time, it was pretty decent, however it won't be able to match the new things that have been discovered and refined. I wish you the best of luck!

Also, Liquid Crystal has the Orange Islands in it. They aren't finished yet, but they might give you some competition:p, Jambo and LaZ know their crap, haha.



I know, but there are some games with contest like light platinum (maybe because its a ruby hack) anyways these weee just suggestions.

socko May 4th, 2013 2:19 AM

Why does awesome hacks always receive so little attention? I love your style ;)

cyndaquil-burns-brightly May 4th, 2013 2:33 AM

Love the idea, add in a different texture pack, some twist in the 18 gym badge story, and an original take on Firered and you there then have my interest.

lizzzz May 4th, 2013 8:34 AM

yay for this thread!! I'm so excited! you've been doing great work :D

IrishAurum May 12th, 2013 2:24 PM

I can't wait for the beta of this to come out i'm totally going to play it!

LightOfTruth May 13th, 2013 2:38 AM

Do you think this should be a sideshow hack because there is no changes to the Kanto region? Could do something to Kanto like adding events and areas but not a change to the regional dex :)

Spherical Ice May 13th, 2013 10:41 AM

Oh! It's nice to see someone make the spiritual successor to Naranja, your mapping and scripting both look really good! This looks like it has potential man, good luck!

chaosrules May 13th, 2013 2:49 PM

I definitely look forward to this, I tried Naranja, but never got far... Mainly because I fail at reading Spanish. >_>
However, I'm a little curious, why reduce the Pokedex?

LocksmithArmy May 16th, 2013 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaosrules (Post 7660519)
I definitely look forward to this, I tried Naranja, but never got far... Mainly because I fail at reading Spanish. >_>
However, I'm a little curious, why reduce the Pokedex?

completing the pokedex (386) is impossible without trading if I dont add gen 3 pokemon to the game... and in theory there are no gen 3 pokemon in kanto or the orange islands... so its pointless to have them in the game... plus I needed the space ;)

im not all about smashing as many pokemon in a game as possible, I am more about having the right number of pokemon for the game you are making... many hackers have specific numbers of pokemon (150, 200) that span all 5 generations... this is nice in a full on new hack. but since my story is already layed out for me (by nintendo and the anime) I figured I would stick with their first 2 generations.

onto an update ;)

I reworked my overworld map (made in mspaint) so it shows exactly where all the ingame maps will be, keeping track of how many map connections they will have ;) it is possible IF none of my maps max out the possible map size limit as some will be massive (even if they are just ocean with a few rocks they will be huge) so it IS possible to have a free ocean world (assuming non maps are too big)

I have decided NOT to post the map.bmp because it is very crude and only serves as a visual note for me and does not actually represent the final layout of the overworld. its more of a guideline I made to keep track of several ideas

and that is all lol life has been EXTREAMLY busy for me... hunting the almighty dollar... when I have some more time I will start making the planned maps (and hopefully wont tell you they are too big) if they are to big it may be possible to break some of them in half... but it depends on the map I suppose.

L0RD G3NGAR May 18th, 2013 6:23 AM

This seems like it's gonna be a pretty good hack.

ExitTae May 23rd, 2013 5:05 AM

This is one hack I actually can't wait to play. Nostalgia with an added twist. I like it


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