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Guy May 13th, 2013 5:28 PM

A New Land, the Kalos Region
 
Thanks to the latest issue of CoroCoro, we've finally gotten our very first look at the region map. Does anyone out there still not believe this region will be based off of France?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/614ddf3efac8ff938d5dff904b49a6dd/tumblr_mmsffrktoh1r1yhdwo1_500.jpg

But looking at it, the whole region looks very GREEEEEEN with lots of small chains of mountains spread around. This is very different from Unova, which is much more modern and industrial. Also, it's a much larger region based on the map above. What do you think of it so far? What new types of terrains and locations will you like to see in this new region? Do you like the idea of there being a lot of mountains and forests or jungles?

Also, the main city of the region is called Lumiose City and it's where the tall tower that resembles the Eiffel Tower is located. From what we've seen of Lumiose from previous news and videos, not even that city looks overly modern like Castelia City. What do you think?

For right now, I love how large the Kalos region looks. It definitely seems like it'll be a fun region to explore. However, I'm probably going to hate having to go through a bunch of caves and mountains by the look of it.

PS. If you're looking to discuss the name of the region or speculate on what the English name will be (if any), then you can discuss that over here.

Bounsweet May 13th, 2013 7:38 PM

100% France, even the mountain ranges line up :D Miare City even seems close to where Paris is located, heh. I'm interested to see how Miare looks, I personally did not like Castelia at all. Too grossly urban imo, who likes dingy alleyways?

I hope this city is reminiscent of Hoenn as far as how rural it is, I loved Hoenn's ties to natures with cities like Fortree and Pacifidlog. X and Y seem very promising with how natural Karos looks.


OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 13th, 2013 7:45 PM

I too hope it'll be more like Hoenn and Sinnoh in terms of nature and rural rather than urban like Johto and Unova.

Zorogami May 14th, 2013 12:25 AM

I'm so excited about this new region!
I love how it has sooo much Green in it. France is a great inspiration, since it has mountains and very nice beaches as well!

tnfsf11 May 14th, 2013 1:58 AM

What I wish for is that the region has:
-A boulevard with cafes & an open market like the one in Slateport
-The ability to go up the Eiffel Tower (or whatever that thing was in the trailer)
-Protagonists & NPCs actually talking (i.e. speech is audible)
Who agrees?

blue May 14th, 2013 2:15 AM

At least it's not full of water routes and deserts! It's nice to have a land full of... mountains and greenery.

SolarAbusoru May 14th, 2013 3:09 AM

I like it. it looks very pristine, full of nature, and well, that European charm

Her May 14th, 2013 4:21 AM


Just a better pic for you all!

metalhand May 14th, 2013 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlequin (Post 7661224)

in the american games the region will be called kalos region

i trying to find the starting town, but in this region there are alot of small town that can fit

Guy May 14th, 2013 4:27 AM

Miare City will also be known as Lumiose City in the English copies.

If you click on the same image of the detailed map on Serebii, it will give you a much larger image so you can take a closer look too.

Her May 14th, 2013 4:38 AM

Judging by the enlarged map, I'm putting my guess as to the location of the starting point on the far right of the map, the four little blue houses with the purple thing.

Guy May 14th, 2013 4:48 AM

STONEHENGE!!! If you look on the map to the far left of the region, you'll notice a group of large rocks the oddly resembles the Stonehenge monument in England.

Good evidence that parts of this region will have other influences from Europe and not just France.

Her May 14th, 2013 4:51 AM

tbh Stonehenge looks like the only thing on there that doesn't conform to at least one aspect of France, though that might just be my French pride seeing too far into things.

Jake♫ May 14th, 2013 5:32 AM

If anyone says this isn't primarily based off of France/Europe you are crazy. As Shivi did just point out it looks like we have Stonehenge, so we're taking some nods from Great Britain as well. I mean, the scattered mountains around the southern part of the region, plus the snowy area to the northwest just screams France/Europe to me.

As for general opinion of the region, I'm really loving it. The one thing I'm noticing that is different from Unova (and I'm happy about!) is that the region doesn't appear to just be a giant circle of towns around a central area. Yes, we have that big circular thing in the center, but the populated areas look much more varied around the map, and that's a great change. It feels like we'll be able to explore a lot more this time!

I'm really enjoying all the water ways around the region as well. It looks like they are literally everywhere. It'd be awesome to maybe have some sort of ferry system or something for fast travel around everywhere, although it doesn't look like there are ports anywhere on the rivers as well. Who knows, I just like how it looks anyways!

Mujahid May 14th, 2013 5:36 AM

Looks Beautiful !
Also, there alot of Small Mountain ranges Throughout the Region. This probably means there'll be alot of caves.
Zubat Alert !

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 7:40 AM

The region seems mostly french except for the stonehenge in what in real life is normandy, fun fact the british had a king who was from normandy. So I guess it makes sense to put the mostly british thing there. Wonder if spain or germany will have anything to add...

metalhand May 14th, 2013 7:45 AM

this region seems to be full of water paths, it is s nice change, but water routes are annoying.

SolarAbusoru May 14th, 2013 7:47 AM

This place definitely looks very diverse, you have have mountains, greens, forests, snowy plains, lava, coasts, etc

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7661470)
This place definitely looks very diverse, you have have mountains, greens, forests, snowy plains, lava, coasts, etc

Yup it's as diverse as Hoenn...now add in tropical forests and it'll actually become more diverse! I love that it's diverse, Sinnoh and Unova sadly weren't very diverse imo.
I wonder if in this region we may ride on a boat in the water ways...

Jake♫ May 14th, 2013 7:57 AM

I'm glad it's so diverse. It makes the region much more interesting to travel, instead of seeing grass route after grass route, then a cave, then more grass. Having the mountains, rivers, snowy area, and volcano at the top will definitely make Kalos a lot of fun to traverse throughout the games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7661483)
I'm glad it's so diverse. It makes the region much more interesting to travel, instead of seeing grass route after grass route, then a cave, then more grass. Having the mountains, rivers, snowy area, and volcano at the top will definitely make Kalos a lot of fun to traverse throughout the games.

Agreed. That's one of the reasons I found Unova so boring, it was town, grass, town, grass, town,grass, cave, town, grass, cave, ect. I hope we get to actually climb up the mountain like with Mount Coronet in Sinnoh, that was one of the highlights of that game for me.

Xander Olivieri May 14th, 2013 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7661477)
Yup it's as diverse as Hoenn...now add in tropical forests and it'll actually become more diverse! I love that it's diverse, Sinnoh and Unova sadly weren't very diverse imo.
I wonder if in this region we may ride on a boat in the water ways...

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7661490)
Agreed. That's one of the reasons I found Unova so boring, it was town, grass, town, grass, town,grass, cave, town, grass, cave, ect. I hope we get to actually climb up the mountain like with Mount Coronet in Sinnoh, that was one of the highlights of that game for me.


I'm wondering if everyone played the same Gen 3 games. Hoenn was Half water half grassland with a little topping of sand and mountain. Hoenn was not that diverse at all. It followed Kanto fairly well. First City into a second city, Third city After a forest, Third City near a small mountain range. Fourth City near the ocean (Cerulean was near a cape that overlooked the ocean and Dewford was a small island), Fourth City was a port. For more than half of Hoenn you are on grass routes with a few caves. Something that is in every game. Only thing that set Hoenn off from the others was the Volcano and Ash field which hasn't really been used since Gen 3. Other than that which doesn't add more diversity than the others, Hoenn was no more diverse than Sinnoh or Johto or Unova. There were plenty of non-modern places all over Unova. The games get more diverse as the generations trot on.

Sinnoh was a large mixture of water, Grass, Mountian, topped with a little bit of Snow on the top.

Kalos IS the most diverse, more diverse than any region before. Its going to have very similar quirks to older regions as is tradition, but it has the most Biomes that I can see on the map.

I do wonder why Kalos Region is star shaped though. Looks as if its going to force us through one main path just like Unova did.

Mujahid May 14th, 2013 8:20 AM

Some Observations i made,

Jake♫ May 14th, 2013 8:25 AM

Definitely agree with you on the starting town and the Pokémon League locations, and the place you circled as an evil hideout could be possible. It sort of reminds me of the Cipher Desert Hideout from Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. It'd definitely be cool to have an entire location dedicated to the hideout instead of just having it in an existing city like the games tend to do.

Cyclone May 14th, 2013 8:26 AM

Oh, look where the tower appears. Isn't that where Paris is located on the real world map? Hmm...

Could that be Miare City, perchance?

Where do you all think the game will start?

Cyclone

blue May 14th, 2013 8:27 AM

This region looks like no other, it looks like a nice little central region which will be interesting to explore!

iTeruri May 14th, 2013 9:16 AM

I don't think that's Stonehenge. France has many stones like that called menhirs. Of course, Stonehenge also consist of menhirs, but there happens to be remains of the largest known menhir in a place that's almost in the same spot as the supposed Stonehenge: Locmariaquer.

At least, I think the place with the stones is supposed to be Brittany, with the smaller penisula (the one with the river) being Normandy. There appears to be a city in the ocean between the two, in the Pokémon version, which seems to reference Mont Saint-Michel.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 9:35 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7661511)
I'm wondering if everyone played the same Gen 3 games. Hoenn was Half water half grassland with a little topping of sand and mountain. Hoenn was not that diverse at all. It followed Kanto fairly well. First City into a second city, Third city After a forest, Third City near a small mountain range. Fourth City near the ocean (Cerulean was near a cape that overlooked the ocean and Dewford was a small island), Fourth City was a port. For more than half of Hoenn you are on grass routes with a few caves. Something that is in every game. Only thing that set Hoenn off from the others was the Volcano and Ash field which hasn't really been used since Gen 3. Other than that which doesn't add more diversity than the others, Hoenn was no more diverse than Sinnoh or Johto or Unova. There were plenty of non-modern places all over Unova. The games get more diverse as the generations trot on.

Sinnoh was a large mixture of water, Grass, Mountian, topped with a little bit of Snow on the top.

Kalos IS the most diverse, more diverse than any region before. Its going to have very similar quirks to older regions as is tradition, but it has the most Biomes that I can see on the map.

I do wonder why Kalos Region is star shaped though. Looks as if its going to force us through one main path just like Unova did.

France is sort of Star shape. Also the map like many others seems to lack some routes. I beleive we'll be going back forth and have intersecting routes like in Hoenn and Sinnoh rather than Unova's rather liner map...at least I hope so.

Xander Olivieri May 14th, 2013 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7661613)
France is sort of Star shape. Also the map like many others seems to lack some routes. I beleive we'll be going back forth and have intersecting routes like in Hoenn and Sinnoh rather than Unova's rather liner map...at least I hope so.

The cartoony maps hardly ever show routes on them. Its different from the game map. When we get that one we should see a fairly large abundance of routes that weren't on the cartoony map. We know there are at least 5 so far.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 9:55 AM

I said like many maps as in the cartoony maps of regions past it's missing routes xD. So yeah it'll likely add in a lot of routes. I actually see the routes being curved and intersecting oddly as in france and the rest of europe a lot of old roads weren't made using rhe grid system like in the US so the curved routes would make sense.

Princess Diana May 14th, 2013 10:05 AM

I was hoping for some more islands. :(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 10:13 AM

Maybe post game we'll go to islands based on france's oversea islands? They could be a mini region.

Princess Diana May 14th, 2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7661656)
Maybe post game we'll go to islands based on france's oversea islands? They could be a mini region.

That's be so cool! I've really been disappointed with the 'islands' of BW/BW2

Nice username btw :p

Sabrewulf238 May 14th, 2013 10:23 AM

I really like the more arty style of the map. It seems more bright and vibrant than other region maps.

Also from looking at the layout it doesn't look like the routes will be in a boring shape, they might be all over the place again like before Unova.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7661669)
I really like the more arty style of the map. It seems more bright and vibrant than other region maps.

Also from looking at the layout it doesn't look like the routes will be in a boring shape, they might be all over the place again like before Unova.

I agree, it seems like it'll be messy, and fun like pre Unova. Maybe it'll be like Kanto even.

blue May 14th, 2013 10:40 AM

I like how it's all contained locally, the towns looks scattered over a smallish area but it looks fun.

JayTheKing May 14th, 2013 10:59 AM

First region that says its name roots out loud hm?

Rivvon May 14th, 2013 11:13 AM

The region really looks like France with a bit of Germany, and the locations look very diverse. Just by the map alone, I'm thinking this may be my favorite region thus far.

Iceshadow3317 May 14th, 2013 11:14 AM

I think it is very possible for Kalos and Unova to be linked by the way it looks. I don't know 100% though. It is probably far away by itself like Unova, but one can hope.

I would like to point out that this probably is not what the in game map will look like, they always make a 3D like map, but in game it is almost always 2D.

SolarAbusoru May 14th, 2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7661729)
I think it is very possible for Kalos and Unova to be linked by the way it looks. I don't know 100% though. It is probably far away by itself like Unova, but one can hope.

Since the Routes have reset again, we can pretty much say Kalos is nowhere near Unova, just like how France is nowhere near the USA

ilias_ May 14th, 2013 11:18 AM

I love the new region!!!! I was hoping for some more islands too :( Anyway, it is amazing!! Cant wait! :)

Iceshadow3317 May 14th, 2013 11:21 AM

Ah, didn't know the routes had been reset again. Yes I agree fully now that it is alone.

On the other hand, I am loving the snow area in the top right corner. I guess we will not have seasons this game.

Also, my guess is that the first town where we start is the small town in the bottom left. It is kinda cut off form the rest of the region.

Rivvon May 14th, 2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7661741)
Ah, didn't know the routes had been reset again. Yes I agree fully now that it is alone.

On the other hand, I am loving the snow area in the top right corner. I guess we will not have seasons this game.

Not necessarily. Unova's art shows the mountains looking snowy. Some areas in Kalos can just be colder than others--even Antartica has seasons (I think!)!

Esper May 14th, 2013 11:28 AM

Looks like we have some fancy garden just south of Paris Lumiose City. That pretty much cinches it as Versailles. I also like how they've interpreted Mont Saint-Michel, the island cathedral-looking part on the western peninsula. And do I see the Millau Viaduct there on the eastern part of the map?

I get the feeling that we might start at the center bottom. There's a little town, then a short path before another town, then a forest, then a larger town, then Paris from which it looks like we might go in several different directions.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 11:42 AM

I hope we get to go inside that tall white mountain in what would be real life Germany on the map. It seems like there's an entrance to me...maybe it's the new Mt. Silver?

Cyclone May 14th, 2013 12:06 PM

MAJOR SPOILER!

(Seriously, look at it.)

Spoiler:
It is confirmed there will be a Route 2 in the game.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_p4_7.jpg

Maybe not so much a spoiler after all, but because of the image, I spoilered it. :P

Cyclone

SolarAbusoru May 14th, 2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CycloneGU (Post 7661806)
MAJOR SPOILER!

(Seriously, look at it.)

Spoiler:
It is confirmed there will be a Route 2 in the game.

http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/may_p4_7.jpg

Maybe not so much a spoiler after all, but because of the image, I spoilered it. :P

Cyclone

I believe most of us saw that, it's pretty hard to miss what with being tall, and blue =P

Jake♫ May 14th, 2013 12:18 PM

I'm pretty sure we've all seen that already for the most part. All it really means is that we have routes 1-whatever again, which probably means it isn't set near Unova, otherwise the route names would overlap.

Zorogami May 14th, 2013 12:26 PM

I guess this confirms the routes will be reset, like it happened with Unova
And this probably means there wont be any travel to another region

SaniOKh May 14th, 2013 1:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7661613)
France is sort of Star shape.

Sort of :) . Looks more like a hexagone to me (BTW, a popular nickname for the mainland France among the French population actually is "the Hexagone")
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Fr-map.png

I like this new region. From the few routes I see, it looks like the map is going to be more complex than the map of Unova, and that's how I like it.

(I'm a little upset my city, Toulouse, doesn't seem to have a counterpart in this region, but it's just me :D )

iTeruri May 14th, 2013 1:53 PM

The region seems to be based on Northern France, though. Judging from the icons used in the dex, it's supposed to be some kind of pentagon/star combination.

Cyclone May 14th, 2013 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SaniOKh (Post 7661962)
(I'm a little upset my city, Toulouse, doesn't seem to have a counterpart in this region, but it's just me :D )

Well, that little map shows 21 cities. There are likely more small towns. Eight will obviously be Gyms, and maybe other little towns along the way that serve as early stops or other important locations later in the game.

I would personally laugh if "Nice Town" or "Nice City" appears in the game by that very name.

Cyclone

blue May 14th, 2013 2:17 PM

They're very similarly structured with the rivers running through several areas of the region, it's certainly the smallest region out of them all.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/Kalos-region-map-610x399.jpghttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/graphics/maps/large/fr-map.gif

HyperXhydra May 14th, 2013 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 7661512)

I think your right about The Pokemon league, it looks like some sort of a palace, maybe like BW 2
you can challenge the elite 4 in any order.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 2:52 PM

Does anyone think that may the clouds could be covering more parts of the region like B2W2 did with the ice? I hope that it is.
Also could the mountain be where the legends could be?

Zorogami May 14th, 2013 2:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7662050)
Does anyone think that may the clouds could be covering more parts of the region like B2W2 did with the ice? I hope that it is.
Also could the mountain be where the legends could be?

I guess there could be some areas that are being hidden for now, maybe post-game content?
I've been thinking, since the legendaries are so different, Xerneas resides in the woods and Yveltal in the skies, maybe it's like in GSC, where Ho-Oh and Lugia had their own special location?
Would be pretty nice to do this with the new legendaries right? One at the top of a mountain, the other in a sacred forest

blue May 14th, 2013 2:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7662050)
Does anyone think that may the clouds could be covering more parts of the region like B2W2 did with the ice? I hope that it is.
Also could the mountain be where the legends could be?

Bring on XY. No but I think they're just there because... well they're clouds.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 2:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 7662053)
I guess there could be some areas that are being hidden for now, maybe post-game content?
I've been thinking, since the legendaries are so different, Xerneas resides in the woods and Yveltal in the skies, maybe it's like in GSC, where Ho-Oh and Lugia had their own special location?
Would be pretty nice to do this with the new legendaries right? One at the top of a mountain, the other in a sacred forest

Yeah, I can totally see Yvetal flying on top of that giant mountain whose top is covered by clouds.

Cyclone May 14th, 2013 3:12 PM

Actually, by the "starting town" circle, that looks like a path into the mountain.

Also, I think the PL will be in the dead north center of the map. The castle may be another landmark of the region; I know, for instance, that two episodes of Iron Chef were filmed at Château de Brissac in Brissac-Quincé.

Cyclone

blue May 14th, 2013 3:21 PM

I could be wrong with on the regional map it having a blue roof, but where you've labelled the starting town, the building in front with the blue roof looks similar to that castle we saw from the initial trailer.

http://assets1.pokemon.com/static_fl/media/ui/img/_fl_global/img_thumbnail_4.png

SolarAbusoru May 14th, 2013 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7662013)
They're very similarly structured with the rivers running through several areas of the region, it's certainly the smallest region out of them all.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/Kalos-region-map-610x399.jpghttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/graphics/maps/large/fr-map.gif

On the contrary, I'd say it's the biggest region, whilst the first 4 regions were based on small areas of Japan, and Unova was based only on the New York area, Kalos here is the top 2 3rds of France, that's bigger than any previous region, plus, the region has to be huge, considering it requires the Pokedex to record 3 different areas.

Zorogami May 14th, 2013 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7662090)
the region has to be huge, considering it requires the Pokedex to record 3 different areas.

This does not necessarily mean the region is going to be huge. Maybe it's just a feature to organize the Pokedex better?
But i do think it's going to be a pretty big region, just look how much sutff there is to see and explore

JP May 14th, 2013 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7662088)
I could be wrong with on the regional map it having a blue roof, but where you've labelled the starting town, the building in front with the blue roof looks similar to that castle we saw from the initial trailer.

http://assets1.pokemon.com/static_fl/media/ui/img/_fl_global/img_thumbnail_4.png

This is what I thought as well. Perhaps they're switching it up this gen? Not starting in a town, but something else (castle?)

I feel the region is going to be big. I'm not sure if it's bigger than Unova though? Unova seems a little more spread out, while Kalos seems bunched up a bit more, while still being relatively large.

iRyahn May 14th, 2013 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7661251)
STONEHENGE!!! If you look on the map to the far left of the region, you'll notice a group of large rocks the oddly resembles the Stonehenge monument in England.

Good evidence that parts of this region will have other influences from Europe and not just France.

Actually I believe the entire region is based off of France, even the icy mountain at the top right that looks like it should be located in Belgium or Germany when comparing to a real map. (I am certain that icy mountain is based off one of the French Alpes, by the way.)

The place with stones is based off of a commune called 'Carnac' in France. Look it up on google maps, they are placed almost in the exact same spot. Carnac is renowned for it's 'Carnac stones' or rather menhirs (standing stones) surrounding in all sorts of different formations around the area.

As for the few islands to the top left, I believe those are based off the Channel Islands.

Obviously Lumiose City is based off Paris. Not sure about the rest, I have some ideas but they aren't concrete ones.

I guess it doesn't really matter what's based off of what. I just think it's cool to know the back story to it all. Sorry for getting carried away xD

Belldandy May 14th, 2013 3:40 PM

100% France. The fact that the water starter is a frog is too funny, too! lol

Overall, it's gorgeous. I love the rivers, the mountains, the lakes. I prefer being forced into caves and forests than to have them as sidequests... I always hope they're long and challenging, like Mt. Moon was way back in the day, or Dark Cave.

I find Unova's caves were too short and brief. Some were even optional. Kalos looks very promising. Favourite game every yet-to-come? Maybe...

Squirtl May 14th, 2013 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7662050)
Does anyone think that may the clouds could be covering more parts of the region like B2W2 did with the ice? I hope that it is.
Also could the mountain be where the legends could be?

yea I was just going to point that out towards the southern part looks like there is some fleshed out area. probably using clouds to avoid spoilers?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7662100)
This is what I thought as well. Perhaps they're switching it up this gen? Not starting in a town, but something else (castle?)

I feel the region is going to be big. I'm not sure if it's bigger than Unova though? Unova seems a little more spread out, while Kalos seems bunched up a bit more, while still being relatively large.

I think the region is actually going to be bigger than Unova. Looking back at Unova's map it looks zoomed in (actually Unova seems sort of empty compared to Kalos). Also France is larger than the New York area so I feel like it should be bigger xD

Guy May 14th, 2013 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iRyahn (Post 7662110)
Actually I believe the entire region is based off of France, even the icy mountain at the top right that looks like it should be located in Belgium or Germany when comparing to a real map. (I am certain that icy mountain is based off one of the French Alpes, by the way.)

The place with stones is based off of a commune called 'Carnac' in France. Look it up on google maps, they are placed almost in the exact same spot. Carnac is renowned for it's 'Carnac stones' or rather menhirs (standing stones) surrounding in all sorts of different formations around the area.

As for the few islands to the top left, I believe those are based off the Channel Islands.

Obviously Lumiose City is based off Paris. Not sure about the rest, I have some ideas but they aren't concrete ones.

I guess it doesn't really matter what's based off of what. I just think it's cool to know the back story to it all. Sorry for getting carried away xD

The region is definitely based off of France. However, I think the row of rocks are what looks more like the Carnac Stones. However, the circular formation after that definitely looks like an imitation of Stonehenge.

The size of the region being in question, I think it's a fairly large region. A lot of the towns and cities are very spaced out and scattered around the region which makes it not one linear line like Unova was. So I feel like there's more room to travel here.

Jake♫ May 14th, 2013 4:41 PM

Just from the general overview of the map it definitely seems like a bigger region. I don't know how well that will transfer in-game though, as the Routes can't be ridiculously long, as that would probably make the games much more difficult for people. They could put a healer in a house somewhere, but that's usually saved for one longer Route in most of the games.

If they can make the region seem bigger without upping the difficulty too much for the younger fanbase of the games I think I'd be one happy camper.

giradialkia May 14th, 2013 4:52 PM

I don't know how I feel about the region, to be honest!
That map artwork is just.. really, really weird. Different, and weird. I mean from that viewpoint it looks like it's zoomed in a bit compared to the likes of the Unova map, but the towns and cities still seem very small.

Weird map artwork aside, I still can't wait to explore this new region (and no, I don't doubt it's based on France :P). That area towards the north-east of the map, is that snow/ice? That's pretty cool. Otherwise it's hard to tell from the artwork (sorry, it's just too different, I can't look at it properly!). That round obviously-it's-a-city in the middle of the map is Lumiose city, and I guess we can assume most of the 'fancy' camera work in the overworld (much like Castelia City's/Skyarrow Bridge's) will take place, because it's ROUND.

In summary: don't like the map artwork, do like the region a lot and the fact that it's obviously based on a country.

Squirtl May 14th, 2013 7:18 PM

I just spotted something in the trailer. you can see the girl leaving the town off of route 3 and it looks like she is going into that garden area on the map. so we can assume we start somewhere near there?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2013 7:54 PM

Perhaps, unless the routes are very long...if that were the case it means the hometown could be quite far.

Moist May 15th, 2013 2:34 AM

If its based on France, maybe we can eat Froakie Legs?
Mmm...Delicious

SolarAbusoru May 15th, 2013 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatTornado (Post 7662617)
If its based on France, maybe we can eat Froakie Legs?
Mmm...Delicious

Still not as tasty as Slowpoke Tails though ;P

Mujahid May 15th, 2013 4:25 AM

Found this on the Internet..Worth discussing.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7459736320/hA0DAA9ED/

iTeruri May 15th, 2013 5:30 AM

That map is wrong, though. Kalos is the top third of France, and the massif central is in the south of France, below the cut of point. The pyrenees are between France and Spain, nowhere near Brittany.

The Kalos region is obviously inspired by France, with Paris, Birttany, Normandy and Mont Saint-Michel as very obvious clues, but it's still a fictional region, so the thing won't match 100% with France.

Princess Diana May 15th, 2013 8:14 AM

I can't help but feel like the cloud placement is hiding some more of the map.

gold/silverFTW May 15th, 2013 4:28 PM

That port town near the power plant-ish area seems to be based off of La Havre, which is a maritime city, and it lies around the same location as the port town in Kalos. There is a park of some sort right next to La Havre and Paris so Idk what it actually is. Could be like the power plant in Kalos. I do see the Carnac Stones, and the Eiffel Tower. But, where is Mont Saint-Michel, or the D-day Beaches, the Château de Chambord, the Arc de Triomphe?

darkslizer May 15th, 2013 5:14 PM

This isn't based off of France. It IS France. The mountain ranges line up, it is the same shape as the country, and it has a freaking EISFLE TOWER IN IT! (I hope I spelled that right. I'm not good at French.)

gold/silverFTW May 15th, 2013 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by darkslizer (Post 7663411)
This isn't based off of France. It IS France. The mountain ranges line up, it is the same shape as the country, and it has a freaking EISFLE TOWER IN IT! (I hope I spelled that right. I'm not good at French.)

Lol, it is not France, it is Kalos, which is a region based off of France. In French it is named "la tour Eiffel".

Jake♫ May 15th, 2013 5:46 PM

It's obviously very heavily inspired by France, but it's definitely not a clone of it. Which is a good thing, as I wouldn't really want to walk through France in a Pokémon game (I mean it sounds kind of cool, but it kind of takes the fantasy element out of it for me). I don't think the cloud is supposed to be hiding anything though, it kind of just looks like a pretty normal cloud pattern for a snowy area (I mean, it DOES need clouds to snow).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 15th, 2013 7:55 PM

Well in real life it doesn't always snow in mountains, usually it's snow and ice from the previous year. Which means if these games have seasons and we go to the mountains in the summer it may not snow but when we visit in the winter it is snowing/hailing.

Zorogami May 15th, 2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7663453)
It's obviously very heavily inspired by France, but it's definitely not a clone of it. Which is a good thing, as I wouldn't really want to walk through France in a Pokémon game (I mean it sounds kind of cool, but it kind of takes the fantasy element out of it for me)

I feel exactly the same, that's why i hope they'll include elements from some other (european) countries, to have more variety.

LycaNinja May 16th, 2013 2:29 AM

Path Speculation
 
Anyone have a speculation as to the path we will take in the game? This is my guess...


I think the legendary legend on the bottom right is where Xerneas is located and at the top is where the assumed Z______ Ancient City Kraken will be. That would leave Yveltal in the snowy mountain, but I assume that's for the evil team showdown and/or an Ice legendary.

Guy May 16th, 2013 2:51 AM

It would be easy for one to assume that we would find the legends in the large mountain in the northeast corner, but like in GSC and HG/SS, I also think Yveltal and Xerneas will be located in two different locations. Yveltal likely being at the top of the mountain as you said and Xerneas being found in one of the forests on the map.

Since this is relevant to the map by the way, I've merged your thread here.

metalhand May 16th, 2013 2:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LycaNinja (Post 7663876)
Anyone have a speculation as to the path we will take in the game? This is my guess...


I think the legendary legend on the bottom right is where Xerneas is located and at the top is where the assumed Z______ Ancient City Kraken will be. That would leave Yveltal in the snowy mountain, but I assume that's for the evil team showdown and/or an Ice legendary.

i'm actualy think that where you said there gonna be a seventh gym is the starting town(and that there are no gym).
i think these huge building will be something like dorms and in these game we will be going to a pokemon trainers school.

LycaNinja May 16th, 2013 2:59 AM

If the rumors of Xerneas being about life and Yveltal being about death, as well as, the rumor of the Kraken being the Z______ legendary Pokemon, I assume these are their locations.


Ho-Oh May 16th, 2013 6:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paparazzo (Post 7662871)
I can't help but feel like the cloud placement is hiding some more of the map.

That's what we thought in B/W, and it wasn't the case :( I don't think there will be anything hidden, unless Xerneas blows around clouds ahaha.

iTeruri May 16th, 2013 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gold/silverFTW (Post 7663367)
That port town near the power plant-ish area seems to be based off of La Havre, which is a maritime city, and it lies around the same location as the port town in Kalos. There is a park of some sort right next to La Havre and Paris so Idk what it actually is. Could be like the power plant in Kalos. I do see the Carnac Stones, and the Eiffel Tower. But, where is Mont Saint-Michel, or the D-day Beaches, the Château de Chambord, the Arc de Triomphe?

Mont Saint-Michel is the city on the small island between Poké-Britanny and Poké-Normandy. Poké-Normandy seems to have some sandy area where the river meets the ocean, so there is a chance that they will reference the D-Day Beaches there (but I consider that chance small). I hope that Lumiose City has some kind of Arc de Triomphe, that ties in with the Elite Four somehow.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 16th, 2013 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7664063)
That's what we thought in B/W, and it wasn't the case :( I don't think there will be anything hidden, unless Xerneas blows around clouds ahaha.

That's what some thought about B2W2 and it was the case, so who knows. Also Yvetal would be doing the cloud blowing not Xerneas xD

Belldandy May 16th, 2013 8:43 AM

I find the Kalos region's layout, if the Elite Four is on that mountaintop, is similar to Kanto/Johto - separated by a mountain range, but sharing the same E4 location. Maybe we'll see a "sequel" in the future where the countries next to France - Italy, Germany, Switzerland, and Belgium - are combined (or even "faction"'d; that'd be an interesting twist! Civil disputtesss!) to form a new region that uses the same E4 facilities. Cycling Road could give access to that, or that little town in the mountains under the clouds there.

ilias_ May 16th, 2013 9:35 AM

Kalos in Greek means beauty.We use it to underline the aesthetic pleasure caused by the perfection of the natural environment ( in this case ).

I don't think GF knows it tho. haha it might be a coincidence but Kalos region is such a beautiful region. haha

SolarAbusoru May 16th, 2013 9:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ilias_ (Post 7664243)
Kalos in Greek means beauty.We use it to underline the aesthetic pleasure caused by the perfection of the natural environment ( in this case ).

I don't think GF knows it tho. haha it might be a coincidence but Kalos region is such a beautiful region. haha

GF knows it, they're pretty darn good at doing their research when it comes to naming stuff for Pokemon games.

ilias_ May 16th, 2013 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7664245)
GF knows it, they're pretty darn good at doing their research when it comes to naming stuff for Pokemon games.

Maybe they used it then! :) who knows! haha

Cyclone May 16th, 2013 2:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7664164)
That's what some thought about B2W2 and it was the case, so who knows. Also Yvetal would be doing the cloud blowing not Xerneas xD

I think you just blew my mind. :P

I'd kind of be curious about if there is just a central area to the entire region, and that you just have to go to each point of the "star" at various times. Sadly, I think it will be linear again.

Cyclone

LycaNinja May 16th, 2013 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Belldandy (Post 7664214)
I find the Kalos region's layout, if the Elite Four is on that mountaintop, is similar to Kanto/Johto - separated by a mountain range, but sharing the same E4 location. Maybe we'll see a "sequel" in the future where the countries next to France - Italy, Germany, Switzerland, and Belgium - are combined (or even "faction"'d; that'd be an interesting twist! Civil disputtesss!) to form a new region that uses the same E4 facilities. Cycling Road could give access to that, or that little town in the mountains under the clouds there.

The elite four makes way more sense to be the area I tagged it as... I'm almost 100% sure its either the elite four or some sort of end game challenge hall.

SolarAbusoru May 16th, 2013 2:51 PM

I'm still trying to figure out where that Train line on the right goes, it just goes right into the central hills and disappears

blue May 16th, 2013 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7664577)
I'm still trying to figure out where that Train line on the right goes, it just goes right into the central hills and disappears

It's the magnet train that leads to Johto.

I actually think that this may be the transportation system you can use to access an area underground acting as a Subway system. It looks like there are mines in the top right hand corner so maybe they could be connected some how?

LycaNinja May 16th, 2013 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7664577)
I'm still trying to figure out where that Train line on the right goes, it just goes right into the central hills and disappears

It looked like a cycle road to me, but a train works too... It probably goes to the end game for things to do after you beat the elite four.

SolarAbusoru May 16th, 2013 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LycaNinja (Post 7664583)
It looked like a cycle road to me, but a train works too... It probably goes to the end game for things to do after you beat the elite four.

You can tell it's a Train line by the platform and train tracks =P

And maybe, just kinda weird you don't see it pop out anywhere else, subway line perhaps?


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