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Deltios September 21st, 2014 11:50 AM

Preordered this, first preorder I've placed ever. I just want to play this game on release date so bad!
I got lucky and got given the unlimited demo, so ofc i'm playing that a lot now :P

Pinkie-Dawn September 22nd, 2014 7:16 AM

A new article has emerged, where Sakurai discusses enemies from Smash Run, voice acting, and returning characters who didn't made the cut: http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=237943

Now obviously, looking at the comments section, fans are responding negatively and calling him a hypocrite through certain exceptions (Dr. Mario's return, Bowser Jr. keeping his cartoonish voice, etc.), but what do you guys think?

Mark Kamill September 22nd, 2014 12:33 PM

Good god googly moogly I just played the demo of a new smash bros. On my 3Ds. Without knowing the controls, why is there no eManual? Whatever, new smash. The 2DS is godly for comfort, 4 hours of heavy playing against high level cpus and I feel fine. But man, no c-stick makes it a butch for smash attacks. Link is beastly, my main since melee. Did they upgrade the spin radius? And holy **** at autoblock, tbolt spammung pika is piss easy. Last of all, it screams N3DS enhanced game, first time a game resets the home menu.

Nah September 22nd, 2014 12:47 PM

Something I was wondering.....how many people do you all usually like to have in a fight? I've always been more of a 1v1 person myself.

Mark Kamill September 22nd, 2014 1:22 PM

I've been doing one on ones all day, can't stand more then that if I'm just doing vs fights like in the demo.man I'm addicted, ecven if I'm really rusty. Been soamming the spin attack the whole time. Villager is also insane, love bum rushing iff the stage while on the rocket to a distant fie, only to recover back in time. Also is their an auti grab that slightly draws you to the,ledge? Been doing it the whole time for some reason.

Spinosaurus September 22nd, 2014 1:36 PM

I don't mind FFA but I much prefer 1v1. 2V2 team match is really fun too.

Evil Stud Muffin are you drunk

Mark Kamill September 22nd, 2014 2:25 PM

No its my phone, doesn't like the bbs. Sometimes posts come out normal, sometimes "that" happens. Its embarrassing, and I'm truly sorry anyone has to endure it. So yeah, is there an auto grab?

Rellek September 22nd, 2014 2:36 PM

Auto grab to the ledge you mean? Yes. It's referred to as "ledge-snapping" and it debuted in Brawl. A lot of people don't like it but I don't mind it. Especially in this new iteration with the mechanic put in place to completely nullify the ability to edge-hog. Super happy about that.

But honestly, I think Mario and Villager are by far the greatest characters in the demo version with Villager easily having the potential to be top tier in the full game.

BrandoSheriff September 22nd, 2014 5:12 PM

I'm better in 1v1 matches, Free-For-All gets really hectic at times with so many characters on screen. I still like it though, and don't mind 2v2 Team Matches, which I wish I could try in the demo.

Also, I've gotten better with Mega Man. I think I'll tack him on to my practice list as well.

Pinkie-Dawn September 22nd, 2014 7:19 PM

I can play on both 1v1 matches and FFA matches, but I'm not as good in 1v1 matches, since I place the CPU at lvl 9, which I assume is how competitive gamers play at.

Starry Windy September 22nd, 2014 8:07 PM

I'm quite good at 1v1 too, but I think I won't play much as myself until I got the full version of Smash Bros, because I need to train in Training mode to getting used to the characters.

Mark Kamill September 23rd, 2014 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rellek (Post 8446219)
Auto grab to the ledge you mean? Yes. It's referred to as "ledge-snapping" and it debuted in Brawl. A lot of people don't like it but I don't mind it. Especially in this new iteration with the mechanic put in place to completely nullify the ability to edge-hog. Super happy about that.

But honestly, I think Mario and Villager are by far the greatest characters in the demo version with Villager easily having the potential to be top tier in the full game.

Yeah ledge-snapping. I played brawl, but not enough to know all the technical terms and what not. Melee was great fun with just trying to get there, but whatever. It feels weird, and I guess I'll get used to it. And nah, Link and Villager are the best of the demo. Like I said, link has his autoblock with the sheild, and that hookshot to grab is great fun. Villager, as I mentioned, has that amazing rocket shot, but I'm not too happy with the recovery smash, I like it when it does some damage. Man, Megaman blows chunks. Weak attack(I dunno what even triggers the charge shot, unless the demo is messing with my button presses), and his specials are awful. Only worthwhile thing on him is the final smash.

HollyYoshi September 23rd, 2014 5:41 PM

I downloaded the demo myself - it's quite good! I'm going to say this right now - Villager is a freaking beast. I think I've found one of my new mains.

Alfieri September 23rd, 2014 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 8446515)
I can play on both 1v1 matches and FFA matches, but I'm not as good in 1v1 matches, since I place the CPU at lvl 9, which I assume is how competitive gamers play at.

Those CPUs are broken. They can shield with perfect timing almost always which makes it unfair because humans tend to slip up with timing meanwhile the AI can just do it thanks to programming lol. Plus they're able to smash attack without a problem meanwhile we still struggle to land a smash with the circle pad because we end up tilting or moving instead.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 24th, 2014 2:58 AM

I wasn't too excited for this game, I was kinda doubting how it well it could go on the 3DS. I was concerned that the screen would be too small (regular 3DS), that the controls would be awkward and that it just wouldn't stand up to the Wii U version. However, after playing the demo I've changed my mind. I'm excited about this game now, the demo is a blast. While the screen is small, it's still totally playable and the controls are not horrible. Anyway, the N3DS comes out here just a month and a bit after release (same day as OR/AS), so I'll probably pick the game up with the new console then. Can't wait to see how Lucina and Robin play!

TRIFORCE89 September 24th, 2014 2:58 AM

I've been doing 1 vs 3 COM at lv9. These COMs don't see as tough as they were in previous games. I'm really not good at this game, don't have the controls and moves down 100% yet, but I have no problem holding my own in these battles and winning most of the time O_o

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 24th, 2014 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TRIFORCE89 (Post 8447757)
I've been doing 1 vs 3 COM at lv9. These COMs don't see as tough as they were in previous games. I'm really not good at this game, don't have the controls and moves down 100% yet, but I have no problem holding my own in these battles and winning most of the time O_o

Really? I struggle with the Level 8-9 CPUs. Maybe that's down to not having played much SSB before. I find myself enjoying 1v1 more than FFAs. The later just seems a bit too hectic and busy for my small screen. Also enjoy playing with stage hazards and items turned off.

bobandbill September 24th, 2014 4:33 AM

Note for other Australians - get Smash Bros for the 3DS from Target (or price match with their catalogue). $44 is a heck of a deal for Australia (standard price is $60 in other stores)! (Target's also selling stuff like Kirby, AC, LM2 and Mario games for that same price).

Nah September 24th, 2014 4:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ω Ruby and α Sapphire (Post 8447761)
Really? I struggle with the Level 8-9 CPUs. Maybe that's down to not having played much SSB before. I find myself enjoying 1v1 more than FFAs. The later just seems a bit too hectic and busy for my small screen. Also enjoy playing with stage hazards and items turned off.

I was playing the demo mostly with a level 8 comp, but now I switched to a level 9 one. Back when I played Brawl a lot (I hardly ever touch it now), I used to be able to whip a level 9 pretty easy, but my skills have deteriorated and now level 9s are a handful. Gotta keep practicing.

I like yer sig, btw.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 24th, 2014 4:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8447832)
I was playing the demo mostly with a level 8 comp, but now I switched to a level 9 one. Back when I played Brawl a lot (I hardly ever touch it now), I used to be able to whip a level 9 pretty easy, but my skills have deteriorated and now level 9s are a handful. Gotta keep practicing.

I like yer sig, btw.

Maybe part of the skill deterioration is the controls? I'm sure they will be hard to get used to for people who have extensively played other games in the franchise, they feel quite different to what limited experience I've had with a gamecube control.

Your sig is quite fine If I say so myself.

Character wise, who is everyone liking or not liking in the demo so far? If found Link to be very strong, but Pikachu has been the most enjoyable to use for me. Haven't messed around with Villager or Mario much, but they seem okay for the most part. When I've used Mega Man, I've really struggled. I think he has potential, but a higher learning curve and a better understanding to use him effectively.

Nah September 24th, 2014 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ω Ruby and α Sapphire (Post 8447838)
Maybe part of the skill deterioration is the controls? I'm sure they will be hard to get used to for people who have extensively played other games in the franchise, they feel quite different to what limited experience I've had with a gamecube control.

Your sig is quite fine If I say so myself.

Nah, I think its more because I haven't been playing Smash much at all for a couple of years now, so I'm rusty as hell. Transitioning to the 3DS controls was a lot easier and feels a lot better than I thought it would be. Except for grabs; I do them with the L button and haven't quite gotten used to it on the 3DS for some reason. And it would be nice if I could turn off tilting up as a jump, but gotta wait for the full game for that.

and I would change my sig right after you say that

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Character wise, who is everyone liking or not liking in the demo so far? If found Link to be very strong, but Pikachu has been the most enjoyable to use for me. Haven't messed around with Villager or Mario much, but they seem okay for the most part. When I've used Mega Man, I've really struggled. I think he has potential, but a higher learning curve and a better understanding to use him effectively.
Out of the 5 playable peeps in the demo, I've mostly been using Mario. He's just felt the best to me. I wouldn't say that any of them are bad, though I still don't get Villager and probably never will (and then you have people like Klippy who're like "Villager is the most amazing thing ever!").

I just really want the full game to come out so I can play as Robin and Lucina.

Ω Ruby and α Sapphire September 24th, 2014 5:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8447845)
I just really want the full game to come out so I can play as Robin and Lucina.

+1. Robin and Lucina will probably end up being my mains, unless they end up being horrible (which I doubt). I've heard some people complaining about Lucina's inclusion, as she's basically a clone of Marth, but I think it's great to have her in. I think some people think she may have 'taken' or 'replaced' a spot from another character, like Ice Climbers, but if Nintendo wanted them in they would have somehow fit them in (possible DLC?). I wish Nowi or Tiki were playable, though it would be a bit silly, their final smash could be incredible.

Nah September 24th, 2014 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ω Ruby and α Sapphire (Post 8447854)
+1. Robin and Lucina will probably end up being my mains, unless they end up being horrible (which I doubt). I've heard some people complaining about Lucina's inclusion, as she's basically a clone of Marth, but I think it's great to have her in. I think some people think she may have 'taken' or 'replaced' a spot from another character, like Ice Climbers, but if Nintendo wanted them in they would have somehow fit them in (possible DLC?). I wish Nowi or Tiki were playable, though it would be a bit silly, their final smash could be incredible.

Eh, people have always complained about clone characters, particularly ones that are basically just an alternate skin of an already existing character with minor tweaks, which is what Lucina, Dark Pit, and Dr.Mario basically are, which is why they're getting flak.

But I say screw 'em. Lucina>Ice Climbers.

Also, I think that I saw in a video that Lucina has an alternate costume where she looks like Tiki, but I'd have to check that.

Spinosaurus September 24th, 2014 5:46 AM

Smash fanbase's distaste towards clone will always baffle me.
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Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8447862)
Also, I think that I saw in a video that Lucina has an alternate costume where she looks like Tiki, but I'd have to check that.

http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/c/c1/Lucina_Palette_%28SSB4%29.png
Looks more like Terra Branford to me though lol

Nah September 24th, 2014 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinosaurus (Post 8447876)
Smash fanbase's distaste towards clone will always baffle me.

I'm not sure if fandoms are ever meant to be understood.

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http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/c/c1/Lucina_Palette_%28SSB4%29.png
Looks more like Terra Branford to me though lol
Well that's better than me trying to find some video I half remember.

But yeah, it seems that Tiki and Terra look kinda similar. Pretty sure that they were going for Tiki if anything though.


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