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For Glory players aren't particularly aware of the competitive scene. You see a lot of Marths despite him being pretty bad.
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Yeah, the Japanese are weird. I mean, I get that Charizard and even Samus take actual skill to use, but... Robin and Falco? One of them's a damn clone of an A-teir! |
Robin is terrible especially in omega stages (which is standard for Japan)
Charizard could be higher but he's nothing special. Falco isn't really a clone. |
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Charizard may not be that special, but he's not as bad as the likes of Ike or DK. If Dark Pit is considered a full clone, Falco should be, too. |
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Other problems with Robin include: -is really slow -very short melee range -ass grab range -options for hitting people below you in the air aren't good -has 2 spikes but they're a bitch to use -has no reliable combos that I'm aware of And being floaty is kind of a blessing and a curse. It's not all bad with Robin, but there's plenty of issues. Quote:
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Which, speaking of Pit/Dark Pit, why aren't they on the exact same tier? The only difference between them is the way their bow+arrow works and I doubt that really makes any difference. Though they are still really close anyway. |
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then go play Fox and Falco Falco is hardly a clone anymore honestly. He never was. Dude was completely different from Fox even in Melee where they only shared animations. Pit and Dark Pit have the exact same moves and properties bar three. Quote:
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I do agree that Charizard could probably be higher, but none of this is based on potential, it's based on how well players are doing with them. So far Charizard is carved out to be a spammy character, it really sucks. Falco isn't a clone at all, that's one of the reasons they kept him. Quote:
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Okay, this is probably just me since I'm so used to the Gamecube controller, but is it easier for anyone else to use Marth's side B on the Wii U version? Sometimes it feels like I could just spam the button and it would work.
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Has anyone totally given up the non Omega stages yet? I find the ones where you spend most of your time trying to keep up with the constantly moving stage really annoying.
Also anyone given up on items? I really think they allow to many cheap knockouts, |
When it comes to the stages, I find that the Omega versions make me bored. So I have given up on the Omega stages. As for the items, I have given up on the explosive items. All of the other items I find interesting.
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And of course items allow for knockouts that weren't fair or deserved. That's the whole point of a fun match. I play fun matches all the time with my little brother, friends and family such as cousins. Because playing matches over and over again and winning just because you're better isn't fun at all. Items, and even stages sometimes just allows the winner to be random most of the time. |
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IT'S HAPPENING! https://t.co/yinDTfHhlo
Please let there be a Nintendo Direct soon; it's the perfect place to reveal Mewtwo in action. |
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Every character can be competitive, but not every character can be viable.
Marth certainly isn't viable. (And Mewtwo who isn't out at all??) |
WOO I LEARNED HOW TO DO ARCFIRE COMBOS TODAY
ok you all can go back to what you were doing |
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Viability means if they can compete and make consistent high results at top level play. Marth definitely can't because he, by design, is an inconsistent character and has no kill set ups. (Which are important)
Inconsistency and having losing matchups against dominant characters can really hurt your viability. |
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