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Night Watcher June 19th, 2015 11:03 AM

Me and my cousin loved how Roy came in from the trailer, saying his only taunt in Melee. And it actually had a meaning in the trailer.

Judge Mandolore Shepard June 19th, 2015 12:39 PM

Between Ryu, Roy, and Lucas, I went and picked up Ryu and Roy earlier this week. I did not feel like getting Lucas.

Pinkie-Dawn June 21st, 2015 6:12 AM

Anyone seen the Japanese commercial for Ryu? It's awesome.



Night Watcher June 21st, 2015 6:50 AM

That trailer looks way better than ours. :P

Garison June 21st, 2015 7:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokoro (Post 8808577)
That trailer looks way better than ours. :P

True. At least ours is longer. :p

Pinkie-Dawn June 21st, 2015 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokoro (Post 8808577)
That trailer looks way better than ours. :P

It's a commercial, not a trailer. Ryu's trailer in Japan is the same as ours except in Japanese.

Nah June 28th, 2015 11:20 AM



lol CPUs

Garison June 28th, 2015 5:01 PM

Hey guys, Sakurai has confirmed in an interview that Roy, Lucas, and Ryu were in development before the smash ballot was started. He also stated that he plans to release several more smash bros characters, and has gotten a lot of votes for the smash ballot.

Speaking of which, who dud you vote for on the smash ballot (if you had). I voted for Isaac (kinda hastily).

Pinkie-Dawn June 28th, 2015 5:10 PM

I voted for King K. Rool, because we need a new DK rep and a new heavyweight character. I hope the second winner of the ballot is also the Inkling, now that Splatoon content has been added onto Smash.

Spinosaurus June 28th, 2015 7:37 PM

Imma say it
K.Rool ain't getting in.

The ballot really doesn't matter in the long run.

Spinosaurus June 28th, 2015 7:37 PM

Imma say it
K.Rool ain't getting in.

The ballot really doesn't matter in the long run.

Crackin355 June 30th, 2015 7:36 PM

There was an article on r/smashbros where Sakurai said the rest of the DLC characters will be fan service, so basically whatever gets the most support on the ballot. If K. Rool does well in the ballot, then it's safe to assume he has a good chance. I have no idea how the ballot is going though. I wonder who has the most votes.

Spinosaurus June 30th, 2015 7:39 PM

Every character is fanservice, the only exception is WFT. (Who now has a fan following because of Smash) That's the premise of the whole game. Sakurai didn't even mention the ballot in that article. My friends who translated the interview said their estimate is around 2-3 planned characters.

Crackin355 June 30th, 2015 7:43 PM

Then there would be no point to the ballot. Considering it as irrelevant is a ridiculous idea. I don't care about it personally but it's there for a reason.

Spinosaurus June 30th, 2015 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crackin355 (Post 8824240)
Then there would be no point to the ballot. Considering it as irrelevant is a ridiculous idea. I don't care about it personally but it's there for a reason.

Yes. Marketing. It's all a clever way to generate interest into DLC, and no matter which character ends up in we'll never know who really won the ballot since they can just claim whatever character won and they'll buy it.

Look at all the people that thought Ryu and Roy were the ballot winners. It's so easy. lmao

Crackin355 June 30th, 2015 9:15 PM

I think you're being a tad bit too cynical about it. The ballot is to gauge and generate interest in what characters people want the most, that's what voting is all about. If K. Rool gets the most votes then they have no reason to ignore that, he'd at least be heavily considered.

I don't think we're going to agree on this, you think they're just tricking their audience and I think they're finding out what characters are in the highest demand. The people who thought Ryu/Roy were ballot winners are morons, the ballot isn't even over and won't be for another three months.

Nah July 1st, 2015 4:14 AM

Pinkie and I had a brief conversation about this over in the Smash Bros Fan Club. Basically my thoughts on the ballot are:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah
The decision is still ultimately up to him (Sakurai) and the Smash 4 dev team. Just because 2 particular characters get the most votes/requests doesn't necessarily mean he's obligated to put those 2 in. Like, let's say that King K. Rool and Wolf get the most votes. Sakurai could still be like "lol no I'ma put in these 2 characters instead", and there's nothing anyone can really do about it.


Spinosaurus July 3rd, 2015 6:22 AM

It's pretty amazing how online play skews characters' strengths and weaknesses.

Wario is god damn terrible with any sort of input latency, despite being a top character. He's a character that capitalizes on small opportunities and turns them into big one, but because of his small range a high degree of precision is required to be any good with him. But what's the point of precise spacing and footsies if input lag makes me one frame off and makes me end up losing? Not to mention one of his best move, waft, is kinda useless when the only way I can hit with it in WiFi is with a hard read.

Meanwhile Yoshi who is mediocre ends up being godlike because his lack of neutral and footsies just don't matter in even the littlest lag. He can spam moves without any repercussions because the input lag makes punishing him just impossible with his air speed on top. He gets away with so much shit it's ridiculous.

I'm trying to justify playing online anymore.

Nah July 3rd, 2015 6:35 AM

Is there always input lag online? I have plenty of matches that don't have any noticeable framerate issues or aren't choppy but sometimes I wonder if there's still always something there. At the very least inputting Dancing Blade seems to usually be less smooth online than it is offline.

Spinosaurus July 3rd, 2015 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 8827359)
Is there always input lag online? I have plenty of matches that don't have any noticeable framerate issues or aren't choppy but sometimes I wonder if there's still always something there. At the very least inputting Dancing Blade seems to usually be less smooth online than it is offline.

Yeah. There's always input lag regardless of how good the connection is and how smooth it feels, that's how it is for online. It's not framerate issues anywho, it's input latency. It makes punishes and reactions just kinda pointless since the game doesn't register your inputs right as you do them.

1 frame latency can be incredibly noticeable. Often times when I use a move that should punish, it gets PERFECT shielded and I end up screwed. The input lag made the whole thing a few frames off and I got punished for doing what I should be doing.

Online is fine but I pray you're not using Wario, Greninja or Pikachu lol.

Pinkie-Dawn July 4th, 2015 6:44 AM

/r/ smashbros has updated their customs off tier list:


Spoiler:
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/987/259/206.png


Does the lack the a D tier mean all characters are viable, or is C the new bottom tier?

Spinosaurus July 4th, 2015 1:17 PM

That's a terrible tier list in a lot of ways.

Roy is NOT better than Marth, let alone Wario, Mega Man, Pac Man, Olimar, Greninja and ROB.
Neither is Lucas.
Meta Knight is not mid.
Marth, Swordsman, Charizard and Link got very significant buffs so why are they that low?
Money on Kirby being that high because of ZeRo saying he's "underrated"

I don't know why anyone bothers with community tier lists.

EDIT: This is customs off so why is Brawler so high???

Centipede Chan July 4th, 2015 1:21 PM

I need to get more into Smash. I am better than everyone in my family, and most CPUs in modes like classic and all star. But I need to actually get good. I want to main Charizard, Robin, and Bowser Jr.

Nah July 4th, 2015 1:24 PM

It's a reddit tier list, what do you expect lol? At least it's not the eventhubs stuff. I suppose people just like making their tier lists. It's kinda fun if you don't take it too seriously.

But yeah, that's not where I'd place some of the characters

Spinosaurus July 4th, 2015 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDDchu (Post 8829158)
I need to get more into Smash. I am better than everyone in my family, and most CPUs in modes like classic and all star. But I need to actually get good. I want to main Charizard, Robin, and Bowser Jr.

Do you play on 3DS or Wii U? (or both)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 8829165)
It's a reddit tier list, what do you expect lol? At least it's not the eventhubs stuff. I suppose people just like making their tier lists. It's kinda fun if you don't take it too seriously.

But yeah, that's not where I'd place some of the characters

Problem is some actually do take it seriously, since there isn't any official tier list. :(


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