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New Type Confirmed: Fairy!
So it has been confirmed through E3 that Sylveon, along with Gardevoir, Marill and Jigglypuff, are going to be classified as the new Fairy Type. It is supposedly Super Effective against Dragon types.
How do you think this will affect competitive balance in-game and online? Does it balance the game or make it worse? How do you feel about such a late type addition? Was it needed? Do you personally feel it was necessary, or was the game fine as it was? Do you like the name "Fairy" or is it too similar to the egg group "Fairy"? Should the type have been named something else i.e. Light? (Light vs. Dark) What weaknesses do you think Fairy has, and what will it be strong against? Evidence suggests that it'll be strong to Ice as well as Dragon, but weak to Poison and Steel. Do you agree with this? What other Pokemon need to be reclassified, in your opinion, to Fairy Type? * I'm hoping they add Clefairy to the Fairy Type classification. It just makes sense lol Snubull as well. It's also nice to see that they're considering the abundance of Dragon Type Pokemon in competitive play (and just in general). Having only two weaknesses was quite limiting for end-game teams IMO so having a choice of Fairy, too (which may or may not have better powers / weaknesses aside Dragon) is nice. |
I'm pretty happy with this! I'm hoping more Pokemon will be given the Fairy type such as Clefairy, Chimecho etc.
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I'm annoyed that it's called FAIRY and not LIGHT, but anything that makes Poison and Steel types more powerful, and Dragon types less common I'm all for. I'm sure I'll be used to this eventually, but at the moment I can't help but to feel annoyed about the official name for the type.
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I knew it. There was just too much evidence to support it. Interesting to see Marril gaining Fairy typing. Its also apparant that they really are trying to nerf dragons. Hopefully the weakness to poison holds true as well, as poison types need a boost.
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All I know its screws my Chomp something fierce. I hope Chansey gets up in this class tho. Depending on who the weakness are . Now theres the risk of an 8X weakness |
This is gonna make things confusing... Well I'm glad I have more choices than Ice, Dragon, and Steel for Dragon counters... lol I guess Dragon was getting a bit overpowered (like Gen 1 Psychic, hence Dark and Steel)...
I wonder if it will resist Dragon, like Steel does, or only be super effective like Ice... It'd be nice to have something that resists Dragon, AND is also super effective. |
God I hate the idea of fairy as a type... I feel as though it is going to really mess with my head learning a new type.
I am glad that poison is getting a boost, but what were thinking making ice weak to it? Now we'll need ANOTHER new type to balance ice out >.> Suffice to say I think this is the worst decision they have made yet, I'm just hoping all the good things about X and Y balance this out. |
Call me a purist but I would have hoped that they'd leave the types alone, but then again, Dragon needs to be knocked down a peg. Only problem is, I don't see anything from that list that can be a threat competitively. But that's all out the window now, I guess. :/
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I'm absolutely okay with this. Of all the new type theories and speculations that have been going on for so long, I was on board with the "Fairy-type" the most. It's going to take some getting used to, especially with some of the older Pokémon changing, but I like the addition of having a new type and what it means for competitive play and battling in general.
It will certainty make things all the more interesting. I just wonder how strong of a type it will be compared to the others. It's nice that Poison if getting a boost though since it's one that needs it the most. |
I'm still not a fan about this but after watching the trailer and thinking on it a bit I am slightly more okay with fairy. I just wished they had left the older pokemon alone (okay clearly cleffairy will be changed which makes sense).
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I personally don't like it. I'm not entirely sure why, but it bugs me.
I don't like the name, and how's a fairy gonna do damage to a dragon? That's just me though... |
I can cope with this, but I hope there are plenty of new Fairy-type Pokemon to win us over.
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I'm all for a new type and all, especially one that helps out balance the more competitive pokemon like Salamence, Latios, and Garchomp, but must it be called fairy?
It seemed most predictions would've had it coined as a light type. Probably would've suited the opposite dark type very well. >_> |
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How is psychic good against poison? It's Pokemon logic, get used to it. I know I already am. :) |
I think people are thinking of delicate fairies and monstrous dragons when it comes to types.
IMO the advantage / disadvantage is just a mythical thing. Both are mythical creatures in legend and lore. It doesn't go any further than the idea that a mythical creature would be strong against another mythical creature. Also supports Dragon Type being SE against Fairy, but we'll see. A bit off-topic, but it's a bit like in South Park where only an immortal can kill another immortal i.e. Kenny vs. Chtulu God. |
Mr. Crocker is so going to have a field day with this.
Anyway, the new type is so interesting, and I'm glad Dragons got nerfed a bit. Moonblast and Fairy Wind are interesting too. In competitive terms, assuming that Fairy resists Dragon too, Azumarill just may become a neat Kingdra check. |
Love this will def see an increase in some old favorites if they're retyped fairy like blissey, clefairy, togepi, and audino.
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I'm pretty happy with the Fairy type.
Hopefully the poison type will be strong against Fairy. |
Sooooooooo disappointed. Fairy is such a effeminate name and should have been called Lunar or Magic type.
Having it be a Dragon type check is stupid and make the game feel very 'kiddy'. 'Oh look, the magical fairies defeat the ferocious dragon.' Eat me GF, somehow you're making worse design decisions than the gen 5 games did. I'm not against having a dragon type check at all, (Ice doesn't count as 90% of dragon-type pokemon can learn fire type moves) but choosing the fairy type was a laughable decision because it doesn't make sense. |
Statswise, Im not sure where it stands. I feel it will act like Bug types with a low overall stat compared to other types. The new type name is annoying but it was inevitable. The name strikes me as odd and if a guy/boy likes the type like how I like Dark-types...lets just not imagine what others would react to that.
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I guess the main idea of fairy being super effective against dragon is using the moon's power or something like that. There's even a move called moon blast and this picture on the official site.
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Seriously...? Fairy...? Say what you want. I am truly disappointed.
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Well i like it. Reminds me of fairy tail, since dragon slayers kill dragons. Maybe they got it from there. lol
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Some might be a bit confused by the strength it has over dragon, even frustrated, I know I am, but in a battle field where dragons dominate, itself being its only true counter, little who can learn ice and dragon moves and are weak in stats if they do, Dragon is seen currently as similar to Psychic before it. Even though they have added Steel as a way to tank it, most dragons, obviously, can carry fire type moves so Steel is not enough, adding to the fact that most Steel is slow and specially weak. Fairy was their only way to nerf Dragon down a bit.
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Now let's hope that Fairy does become the next Psychic and Dragon type...
I wonder if these four are all of the one's with the new type...hope there's more like Clefairy, and maybe even Pikachu...wonder how the anime will explain that one xD (Ash: Pikachu can learn Fairy moves...what's Fairy?) |
I really can't take this seriously because fairies kill dragons and now I'm thinking of Pokémon being some magical story world full of dragons and princes and wonderland creatures and ogres. Aka, Shrek: The Game.
Seriously though, I don't feel like having Fairy as a type makes very much sense. The others so far are okay; all based off real, general things with plenty of space for imagination (minus Dragon - but Dragon is badass anyway. Although honestly I always felt there to be a big lack of variation between Dragon types as it was) but this just feels so... restricting to me. What even qualifies as a fairy? When I think "fairy" I think something like Tinkerbell; a human form with wings and a magic wand. Either that or Navi from the LoZ games; in any case, something bright and flying with sparkles and fairy dust and other stuff like that. I really don't get why they felt they needed to bring a new type in, and honestly given some of the confirmed Fairy Pokémon (Gardevoir, Sylveon, Marill?) it feels like they're just chucking the type at... well, anything they can. I don't see what exactly makes these guys 'fairies' - mainly given that they're trying to build a type here off something which doesn't actually exist. I had the same issue with Dragons; they were cool but the actual typing made zero sense due to the lack of dragons in the real world. I never understood the logic behind dragons being weak to... well... dragons. And regarding dragons - I'm glad that I'm not the only person who feels that the whole point of this type is to check Dragon-types. Which, honestly, wasn't worth a whole new type imo (and especially not when the fairy being strong against dragon thing makes no sense in the first place). They could've just introduced some better Ice-types, some sort of anti-Dragon items or moves or etc, but nahhh. They had to go screw everything up by throwing a whole new type which, as I keep saying, is in itself not possible to categorise due to it not existing in the first place. ...tl;dr I don't like it. I feel it's a really messy type due to the fact that it's impossible to say, with any solid reasoning, what a fairy is or what its advantages and disadvantages are and they could have done the same job by being more inventive in other areas. |
I'm surprised that people don't like the name. I like the name fine. It makes more sense than "Magic," "Lunar," or whatever else since those are already very Psychic-type and this new Fairy type seems to have a good representation from the Normal-types. If you read fairy tales and mythology and folklore and that stuff you know that fairies are quite diverse and can range from the Tinkerbells and leprechauns we know from kids movies to nasty, dirty trolls and evil, otherworldly, child-stealing elves.
I'm kinda glad that since they have decided to add a new type they're going back and revising a few old Pokemon to help balance things out. |
At first I too saw it as really being feminine etc., but it's kinda grown on me now. :) Idk why they confirmed Jigglypuff as being Fairy but not Clefairy. xD Perhaps it was too obvious? But yeah, I like it! :D It's just what we needed to spice up this generation. :)
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I think people are just resistant to change, really. Every generation they add new Pokemon with new typings, new moves, new mechanics... Sure, it's a bit late in the series, but I definitely think that a new type is the curve ball competitive battling needed. It might take a bit to get used to, but if you're a good competitive battler you'll work your way around it and use it to your advantage in no time.
That said, calling it "Lunar" would've been cool, but maybe too close to Dark. |
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Why is Marill fairy though? He's a water poke ffs, the only Fairies should be (& their lines):
Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Chansey, Sylveon, Audino ...etc (any pink Pokemon except Mew) but not Marill & Gardevoir, this is ridiculous :/ |
Marill is already in the fairy egg group, and we have an overabundance of Water Pokemon, and its entire evolutionary line is one type, and it has that storybook fairy kind of look and appeal.
Gardevoir, well, it still has a fairy tale kind of design and a certain sense of mystery. |
I'm taking the news better than I thought I would. Now I'm just wondering why the official site says Jigglypuff is Normal/Fairy. I'd have thought it would become pure Fairy, but maybe that's just me.
And Marill, well...I hope Azuril stays Normal, that way it evolves into completely different dual types xD |
Well, that is unusual, considering that we haven't had a new type introduced since Generation II. Still, it's a wonderful idea. I also wonder if some moves will be reclassified to be the Fairy type, like for example Heal Pulse, Charm, Sweet Kiss, Sing, or Present. Maybe there will be a Hidden Power Fairy as well?
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I like it. No sure about Marril being a fairy though, what? was hoping the new type would be new pokemon only for the region.
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"Uggh, Pokemon is getting really boring, they never change anything, all the Pokemon games are the same, same storyline, same mechanics, same yadda yadda yadda."
"They added a new type? Gamefreak, how dare you? This is blasphemy! How dare you change anything at all about my beloved franchise!" And then people wonder why Gamefreak is afraid to change up the formula. I am personally ecstatic that finally Gamefreak is bothering to change up the status quo for a bit. I'm a huge fan of Pokemon, but I was starting to think things were getting a little stale, you know? It's sort of embarrassing to look at other franchises that actually evolve greatly between games... while Pokemon remains more or less the same. But not this time! ...Hopefully. I dislike the name "Light", and I love the name "Fairy". Although, I am surprised that in 2013 we still have people sexist enough to hate the type simply because they perceive it as effeminate... really? What part about "Fairy" has anything to do with females at all? I do understand if some people who think they are super macho or something are upset by Fairy's pink color (however shallow that argument may be), but I myself, personally, like pink. Quote:
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I am starting to suspect that few people here oppose the Fairy type just because it's new or "unnecessary" or whatever. They only care it's called "Fairy". If it were called "Super Macho Masculine Badass" type, at least 50% of its opposers would be swooing all over it. While I agree Gamefreak may be choosing more feminine Pokemon to portray as Fairies, Tinkerbell really isn't an accurate depiction of real fairy folklore. |
What's wrong with fairies being effeminate? I'm not sure why that's a criticism and I certainly don't consider it valid. Something being feminine doesn't exclude it from being strong or powerful.
I think it makes sense as a type, and I'm happy to see it. A 'Light' type could arguably crossover into other types, but Fairy stands up on it's own. I feel like Fairy as a type is actually more descriptive, there are Pokémon that could instantly be put into that category. And I'm not talking just the 'pink and girly' kind, but the Pokémon that have mystical/magical type powers that are hard to attribute to any of the existing types. Overall, yay Fairy! |
I have no problems with it... but since when is "Fairy" a type of anything? It just sounds really awkward, imo and I think Gamefreak could have come up with something much better. Therein lies peoples' problems with the Fairy type, not the fact that it is "Fairy" but that it could be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. Game Freak has finally decided to step away from their regular formula, and instead of something cool, they just come out with this crap. THAT, I think, is what upsets people.
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i want dark to be strong against fairy
i want these Pokemon to be retyped as fairy: skitty audino meloetta chansey celfariy and lickitung |
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I saw this coming.
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=7571797&highlight=fairy#post7571797 Not that I wanted a new type, but now that Wigglytuff is a Dragon-Buster.... ROCK ON! There is a Dragon Buster Character in the anime, will she get some Fairy-Type Pokemon in October? EDIT JIRACHI JIRACHI THERE IS NO WAY JIRACHI IS A STEEL TYPE! IT IS A FAIRY! THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT JIRACHI THAT IS STEEL TYPE! Will Jirachi be Re-TYPED! |
Fairy type means NOTHING!
Long time pokemon fan, I see a lot of people saying fairy type is the end all "Dragon Slayers", but really think about it...statistically dragon types have the highest base stats. If you look at potential fairy type pokemon...they have subpar base stats.
Just bringing one of these new fairy type to counter dragon pokemon in battle would be suicide, most dragon types are dual type and it would be easy to take this new type out. I just don't see why they decided to add a new weakness for dragon with such a crappy typing. Granted steel pokemon aren't very offensive and there isn't any good poison moves but fairy pokemon's hp and speed base stat is low enough it doesn't matter. Compare Wigglytuff or Azumarill base stat with Salamence. You know Salamence will tear them to shreds. What I am interested in seeing is a Fairy/Dragon type which will only have 3 weaknesses Ice/Steel/Poison. |
I guess it's nice to have dragonkillers. But I don't like the name - it's so dainty and delicate, how are you supposed to do wyrmtaming with a name like that?
Once you get passed the Disneyfication of fairy, what makes a fairy pokemon? They can't just be cute and pink, there must be something spiritual about them... like sylphs or undines or something. To me it sounds like a crossover between elemental and Psychic. I'm still not too sure what to make of it yet. Chimecho should be a fairy though. |
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There is NOTHING Normal about Clefairy. IT LIVES ON THE MOON. Normal type is for Normal Pokemon. Fairies are bad ass Mother-Jumpers. Have you read Dresden Files. Queen Mab gives Satan a run for his money on the Evil Bad Ass Meter. |
I had a hard time before trying to figure out what a Dragon type really is, & it's the same now for Fairy, so it kinda makes sense that they're opposite?
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"Much of the folklore about fairies revolves around protection from their malice. Although in modern culture they are often depicted as young, sometimes winged, humanoids of small stature, they originally were depicted quite differently: tall, radiant, angelic beings or short, wizened trolls being two of the commonly mentioned forms. One common theme found among the Celtic nations describes a race of diminutive people who had been driven into hiding by invading humans. When considered as beings that a person might actually encounter, fairies were noted for their mischief and malice." Fairies were originally more demonic in nature. Don't let Disney root itself too deep in your mind, man. d:Oftentimes, creatures like Dwarves and Goblins can also be considered "fairies." They're not all tiny, sparkly, little gay things that you see flying around. One of my favorites from mythology is Lilith. She's often a demonic being, queen of the Fairies and guardian of the seven layers of creation. If you look at Digimon's Lilithmon, you'll notice that she's pretty much painted to look like a female Satan. Hey, Satan could be considered a fairy, too. d: So many people just have the wrong idea planted in their heads about fairies. Society has morphed them all into little Tinkerbell look-alikes, whereas the original fairies could oftentimes be seen kidnapping, murdering and eating little children. So much more fun, don't you think? I myself am welcoming of the new type. It might sound a bit odd, but the only issue with that is people who are going to be like "Oh my God, Fairy? Pokemon was gay before, but now you're a total f****t for playing it!" And that's actually what a lot of people here are sounding like right now. >.>; |
Not too happy that they couldn't come up with something more clever than "Fairy"-type, but I like the idea of Dragon having to watch out for another type of attack now. And Gardevoir will have STAB good against Dragon omg ^^
Anyways I feel like Snubbull should obviously be a Fariy-type, and maybe Togepi, Stantler and Audino as well. As much as I don't want it to happen though, it may just happen to the Chansey family as well. |
I think I can wrap an idea around why Fairy is super effective to Dragon. In fairy tales, particularly Sleeping Beauty, the fairy empowers the hero to help them slay the dragon. Now, dragons aren't all big and evil like Maleficent but it's a start.
As to the speculation that Poison and Steel are strong against Fairy, I thought about this movie called Ferngully, where the fairy's habitat was being destroyed by machinery (ergo steel and poison). While steel isn't a direct attack on fairies, a fairy can't do much to a wall of metal anyway. Looking at it from a more lunar and astral point of view, rockets and satellites both land on and populate moons, and the moon is being destroyed by metal asteroids/meteors (ergo Meteor Mash super effective against a hopefully Fairy-type Clefairy). Just an observation. |
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Literally my exact reaction, down to wondering why Jigglypuff isn't pure Fairy. |
I really hope they mix it up. Like, I want Pokemon that are Fairy types but aren't pink, adorable, or feminine. I hope they can toy with the darker possibilities of the type... hmm Dark/Fairy type maybe? But I do hate say Fairy. It sounds so... old timey. I really wish we could talk them into translating it to "Light". It sounds more universal and can still cover all of the same characteristics.
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Imagine if there was a Light/Dark Pokemon. What an amazing combo that would of been. So many possibilities there for a great story there for a legendary.
I guess "Fairy" is ok, but I still prefer the sound of "Light" to be honest. Oh well, the name isn't going to make much difference in gameplay. Thank god GF took a step against Dragon aha |
I hope that they'll later elaborate more on the changes to the type chart in the Q&A. I want to know what Fairy is weak to, and if it's strong against anything else, of course it may simply be what the rumor said...
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Granbul, it should get it bcause its a "Fairy" pokemon (says it right in the dex)
Arseus is going to get a Fairy form due to his ability and I will be refering to "fairy" as "Navi" because its funny (Navi plate :P) |
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There's probably going to be at least one new fairy type Pokemon that would be above par, but won't be a legendary Pokemon. |
It's nice that it's weak to poison, always good to see that type get a buff. But fighting is strong enough already, it kills ice and faerie? Haxorus with brick break is must now i see.
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I was surprised Clefairy wasn't showcased as being a Fairy type Pokemon but maybe they only wanted to demonstrate a few of the Fairy types that will be in these new games.
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Fairy sounds a bit too squeamish to be considered a type...it should really be named Light, imo. I believe that Fairy is unnecessary to "balance" Dragon types, because Dragon is only super effective against one type - itself. While this is the case, I also realize that Dragon is very OP if it has high Attack and the move Outrage (which benefits from STAB), but Steel types could easily counter this with its normally-massive Defense and resistance to Dragon. (and even Rock-types, if the Defense stat is high enough) Some Pokemon can tank Dragon moves, while others can outspeed them, but the main point is to be able to land an Ice move on Dragon-types, as most are 2x or 4x weak against it, and their Sp. Def. stat is usually low.
Moving away from "Why I don't want it" to "What it should be"...as mentioned it's super effective against Dragons, which is okay I guess. Maybe I'll just sum up what I think it'll be in a list:
Obviously I'm just making speculation (not great ones anyway), but regardless, this new typing will change type effectiveness for further generations to come. This new type seems to be strongly based on folklore and I would like to see what kinds of Pokemon will be classified as this new type (other than what's already mentioned: Gardevoir (Psychic/Fairy?), Jigglypuff, Marill (Really? Water/Fairy? or just Fairy only?), and Sylveon) Maybe add in the Togepi line and Cleffa line? I guess we'll all have to wait and see... |
I don't like how Fairy is super-effective towards Ice. While Dragon does have at least a reason to it (doesn't excuse it from being really stupid), this just makes the already faltering Ice type even weaker.
Hopefully they'll do something such as making Ice types super effective towards Water or another common type, as the future looks rather grim for them. I still am no fan of this new type, but I'm happy GF is at least attempting to try and add types to the games. I do like how many old pokemon are receiving this new type compared tot he last time they put in typing in gen II when only two pokemon got a new type. I don't like how Fairy is super-effective towards Ice. While Dragon does have at least a reason to it (doesn't excuse it from being really stupid), this just makes the already faltering Ice type even weaker. Hopefully they'll do something such as making Ice types super effective towards Water or another common type, as the future looks rather grim for them. I still am no fan of this new type, but I'm happy GF is at least attempting to try and add types to the games. I do like how many old pokemon are receiving this new type compared tot he last time they put in typing in gen II when only two pokemon got a new type. |
Well I actually agree with a new type that counters dragons, even though it has been like 4gens since the last adition of new types (I think steel and dark were the last ones right?).
On the name... Well I think it makes sense the fairy thing, you know, a magical creature fighting a beast or something actually has a point, but if is like that, Magic type would be better. I don't know why everybody is sayin' "Oh Light would be best, oh fairy is for pussys". Like, common, what is goig to do light to a ****ing dragon? They are almost elemental pokémon!!! They can learn moves from almost all types!!! I'm pretty sure they would also learn light type moves. I think fairy type is ok, but magic would be the best. |
The Pokémon I'd like to see gain a Fairy Type would be:
Togepi and it's evolutions Clefairy and it's evolutions for obvious reasons Finneon and Lumineon cause, well idk they seem to fit into that category and I really like these two Mawile because there's been a lot of speculation around it becoming part Fairy type The Pokémon I'd like to see gain a Fairy Type would be: Togepi and it's evolutions cause they generally look like fairies... in a way Clefairy and it's evolutions for obvious reasons Finneon and Lumineon cause, well idk they seem to fit into that category and I really like these two Mawile because there's been a lot of speculation around it becoming part Fairy type |
I just really can't wait for them to explain why this type exists.
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I'm a little disappointed that Fairy is SE against Dragon so really that's the only reason for me to dislike it right now. I may not use Fairy types due to this little fact alone. Hope they make Fairy weak to Steel just to keep the Folklore in tact.
Maybe CoroCoro will give us more on the type. |
I like the idea. :) I wonder if it'll essentially play out the way I always imagined a "cosmic" type, especially considering some of these age old fairies have moonstone evolutions. The new Eevee thing had some sort of moon attack, I'm all for giving space themed moves to the Fairy type. I mean, how else do you explain that? Aside from cosmic power, I dunno. It sure isn't Psychic and it definitely isn't "Normal".
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Manaphy and phione has to be faerie no matter what. Same goes for Shaymin. But what about Jirachi and Celebi, and even Mew? They're all pretty faerie like. Shaymin and Celebi are grass faeries as much as Marill is a water faerie.
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I'm personally pretty excited for the new fairy type, it's nice to switch things up after while. Also to everyone who are complaining about there being no light type as an opposite to the dark type, it's probably because the dark type is called "evil" in the Japanese games and their counterpart are the fighting type Pokemon which apparently stands for Justice.
Also I doubt this is all the information about the Fairy type, we'll probably get more information about its weaknesses and strengths later. I'm also willing to bet that those won't be the only Pokemon to have the new fairy type added on, so please stop freaking out about how so and so wasn't stated as a fairy type. |
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I agree with some of your choices. These are the ones I think have a high chance of being given Fairy typing. Igglybuff-Jigglypuff-Wigglytuff Cleffa-Clefairy-Clefable Mawile + Subbull-Granbull Happiny-Chansey-Blissey Whismur-Loudred-Exploud Audino Azelf-Mesprit-Uxie Arceus (Fairy plate) Others that come to mind are already dual-typed... or I think only have a low chance, like these... Wynaut-Wobbuffet Bellossom Mienfoo-Mienshao Skitty-Delcatty Drowzee-Hypno Chingling-Chimecho |
I like that new type, ok it is going to make Dragon types weaker but ok. :\ haha
well, I liked Sylveon that it is a new type and all but the fact that they changed the types of old Pokemon irks me. I don't know why. Maybe because it is going to be awkward in the anime. I mean, how are they going to explain that those old Pokemon Ash has ecountered in the past are now different type? Maybe because of the region? I don't know, I think they should have just designed new Pokemon for that purpose. Although, Gardevoir is going to be in my team. It is going to be strong in this game lol |
Dragon kind of needed a check. Overall, Im happy with this confirmation and I think it' cool that we are getting a new type, I personally see nothing bad about it. I just hope it isnt really SE to Ice :l
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But how? they predict it right! even the type name.
I don't think Maril fits to be fairy type. I predict it will be also super effective against dark. |
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Also is normal damage to Flying so we can rule out offensive capabilities against Flying. |
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In most other things, I'm more or less fine. Fairy, though? They couldn't come up with a better name than fairy!? Fair enough, there are reasons why it isn't called light type, (which makes more sense to an English eye) but FAIRY? There were still things like lunar, cosmic, magic, arcane, mana, uh... wizard, special... super? Ok, those last few were longshots, but there's still lots more if you think about it. And besides; for me, a fairy was just a BUG/PSYCHIC - don't tell me I'm alone here. Heck, even pixie type might have been better. Ugh, it's just a really naff name, alright? It probably won't change, anyhow. |
Angel would be cool to see
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Eventually people will get used to it, methinks. I personally see no issue with the name. It doesn't roll off the tongue like Light, but Light and Fairy have drastically different implications, so it wouldn't quite make sense to say the two are interchangeable. |
I was seriously in shock when this was revealed.
Despite the rumors, I never thought it would happen. All the people who said it would that I silently laughed at, sorry guys. xD Overall, I am glad we have a new type, and one that can put dragons in check, especially after the hefty amount of them we've received from Gen 4-5, like the legendaries. Fairy magic kills dragons in other fantasy games, so I understand the advantage. :P I guess this means that the Snubbull and Clefairy families will finally get the typing they deserve? |
No one has said this yet.
The Game is set in France / Europe. Fairies are a BIG part of European Folklore. Totally make sense to roll out Fairies now. |
If you asked me a month ago, I would say completely the opposite, but, after reading so much about the new type for so long, I started to get used to the idea of it becoming real.
Still, I had always had a problem with the name, as many of you seem to have as well. But I've changed my mind completely, now I think that the name "Light" (the one that I would suggest before) doesn't actually suit the concept of this new type. Also, I don't see the confusion around fairies beating dragon, I think it makes total sense. Just look at Dragon pokemon as some big and intimidating creatures creatures with a lot of brute force. Fairies are like intelligent creatures that focus their strenght in some kind of mystic power, bringing balance to nature, defeating those overpowered brute force oriented creatures, which brute power is completely useless against the fairies' mystic power. If you still don't like it, don't worry. I'm sure it's just a matter of time for everyone to get used to it. I've been following Pokemon X/Y's thread for the last few months, so I was already familiarized with the Fairy type, and now I'm actually love it. And believe me, I really didn't like it in the beggining. |
For all of those that said that fairies are weak or feminine read up on mythology. Traditionally they were first seen as ghosts and demons. Isn't only been since Tinkerbell that they're cute.
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YES!, I'm so happy the dragons are nerfed. You cant see me but I'm doing a dance right now.
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Will those who said "new type" the day Sylveon was introduced please pick up your prizes at the Lumiose Bookstore, behind the area where the Gogoat is grazing? Thanks.
So I was wrong. I hate the name "Fairy", but hey, we needed something new super-effective against Dragon. So I can deal. I wonder what moves will be reclassified as Fairy type, if any? Obviously we have a lot of new moves coming up. Cyclone |
I'll get over it. The only problem I had with a new type was the "Fairy" name rumors, that's all. I am happy that we finally have a new type, but I will just have to get over my distaste for the name. Especially since I love my Azumarill.....anybody think it would get the Fairy typing too?
Just makes me imagine the boys in school saying how they love Fairy type Pokemon, and in turn getting the crap beat out of them. Haha~ |
I'll be damned, things just got real. I'm still remembered how we discussed it few months ago and someone mention Fairy type. Never thought it would come to realization this sooner.
I'm impressed and quite satisfied by Fairy type. Mainly because it is acceptable since there are many pokemons who have "strange" shape, that its neither animal nor objects. It is much better than those Light Type just to "balance" Dark type, an overused argument to add new type. I'm curious to see how this new type would change the Metagame. Gardevoir and Azumarill can now wreck Dragon-type pokemon with ease, but their weakness to poisons mean the one like Drapion or Toxicroak would get more useful on their Poison type. Anyway, good job Gamefreak by not making Light type. |
I love that they're introducing a new type. It freshens up some of the old Pokémon, adds a whole category of attacks and allows for new possibilities when it comes to Pokémon designs and whatnot (not to mention new ways to find them?). Plain Pokémon like Wigglytuff or Granbull (assuming they're Fairy-type) are now much more interesting... And now we can have a Fairy Gym Leader!
It won't affect me otherwise because I'm not too much into competitive battling, but it'll be a whole lot of fun experimenting with the new Fairy-type Pokémon. My only complaint though, like many others, is that it's called "Fairy" and not "Light." Light just sounds slicker to me, idk. |
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Fairy type will be ****ing badass! Also, explaining my previous post, I think that Fairy suits the concept of the type, rather thang Light. Light type would literally suggest the use of light, you know, photons and stuff. I think that this new type represents a kind of Pokémon that doesn't neccessarily uses light, but a kind of pokémon that makes use of its mystic/magic power. For example, in the move Moonblast, I don't think that Sylveon literally uses the light of the full moon to strike the opponent - this would just be like Solarbeam, but in the night time. I think that it actually strikes the opponent by making use of the mystic/magic energy that is associated with the full moon. |
I'm quite fine with this. However, I really hope (probably against all odds, since there seems to be some "evidence" of it already) that the Fairy-type isn't strong against Ice and weak against Fighting. Ice needs a bit of defensive help, and I feel that Fighting reeeeeally needs a nerfing.
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Assuming both were Special attacks Hydreigon has 90 SP.D, Salamence has 80 SP.D, Haxorus has 70. I can't see Sylveon having more SP.A than Gardevoir. Even if so, Highest any of the Eeveeloutions goes is 130. 5 Points difference wouldn't be that big. Since the other two were fairly weak in the special defense it makes sense, but if Dark is weak to Fairy, then Hydreigon should have been knocked out as well since Focus Blast can OHKO it as a regular SE attack not counting STAB. No telling what move was used on Salamence though so difference in power isn't really relevant, not to mention Mood Burst can be weaker than Fairy Wind. Doesn't really look like Dark is weak to Fairy. Kinda hoping Fairy is weak to Dark though. Dark and Steel~ |
If Dark weak to Fairy, so does end the day of Spiritomb and Sableye as the Pokemon without definite weakness. Fairy could still end that too though if they have advantage against Ghost. I really doubt it if Fairy type only have one type advantage.
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Fairy as Dragon new weakness have significant impact on the metagame. Gardevoir could pretty much wreck Dragon team if Fairy is resistant against Dark type. |
If the rumor is correct then Eeleektross' line will be the only one with no weaknesses as Fairy is strong against dark, and ghost I'm guessing takes neutral damage as there's no mention of it.
Also if that's true Gardevoir will be able to take down dark types now... Also if Mawhile does become fairy like the rumor says it'll be able to take down Fighting, and now not only act as a shield against Dragon but be able to inflict some hard damage on them. |
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To all those that think that Tinkerbell is the only fairy Disney has produced, don't forget that the most badass (imo) villian of all time, Maleficent, was known as the Evil Fairy.
Also, to those who are complaining about how the last time that new types were introduced that only two pokemon changed, remember that there were only 151 back then, not the 600+ that is now. It only makes sense that more pokemon would take on this type. As for the anime, it'll probably mostly viewed as new attacks on the old pokemon, but lets be honest, Ash is an idiot and uses his pokedex on every pokemon whether he's seen it or not. That being said, I am super excited about the new type! I think that it's the perfect way to possibly give some old pokemon a new niche in the metagame and also take Dragons down a notch. I'm very much looking forward to see who else will *hopefully* gain the Fairy type and what new pokemon of this type are offered. |
I'm just mad they didn't really give a reasoning behind the Fairy type. Posters here even came up with the "to balance out the game" reasoning.
I guess there wasn't a reason for Steel and Dark either was there? Just "to balance out the game". It took them 4 years "to balance out the game" >___> |
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Even with that, Gardevoir was still NU. Potential for greatness, but seems to be lacking in power to back up their claims. I hope something with more oomph comes out. Both the high power Fairies so far may remain in NU in terms of use which hardly balances out the competitive scene. Especially so if Fairy have more weaknesses than what we are expecting. The competitive scene has already proved to work in ways Gamefreak didn't intend it to go. This is another possible thing to not go the way they want. While Dragon has another weakness to exploit it may not change all that much in the competitive scene. |
Awesome type, I think it would have been better being called Cosmic type or something similar.. Or at least spelled Faerie. But oh well.
We all knew the Fairy type was coming, it leaked like in April or something. I'm just really, really happy they didn't make "girl" type. Someone suggested this to me because Sylveon is Pink and has bows. The last thing we need is cultural ideas of feminine and masculine leaking into our Pokemon world.. At least that's my opinion. Just SO happy that didn't happen. I think adding a new type and making it effective against Dragon was the most excellent thing they could have done for this gen. Maybe the Fairy type will give some more use to previously outclassed Pokemon such as Wigglytuff. Quote:
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I expected there would be a new type, and I thought Sylveon would be that type. I predicted it would be called "Light" or "Rainbow". Fairy isn't too far off. It's not a bad choice.
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Does that mean Fairy Type moves would be ineffective at Day when Battling a Dragon type??? Because they just get the power from the moon????
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