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So what are some Fairy Dual Combos, that you all want to see? Here is a list of ones I mainly want to see.
Fairy/Fire Fairy/Water Fairy/Grass Fairy/Electric Fairy/Ice Fairy/Dark Fairy/Bug Fairy/Dragon Now I highly doubt of of these will come out all in 1 generation, but you never know. Depends on how many pokemon there is. These are new pokemon I want to see not old retyped ones. I know we already have some retypes like Marill. The ones in bold are ones I really want to see this generation as a normal evolution line. As I have said a lot I also want the trio to be part Fairy with Grass,Water, and Fire or Dark. |
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Grass/Fairy Fairy/Flying Dragon/Fairy Steel/Fairy and Dark/Fairy :) |
I am all for a new type addition. Fairy may not be the best choice possible but I am ok with and cannot wait to try the fairy type out in game.
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I was hoping for light type, because well it would make more sense imo, light super effective to ghost, dark and dragon. But fairy seems decent.
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I was totally againt having a Light type just for the sake of having the Light-Dark duality.
Having a new type is kindof unecessary to be honest, but, the moment I knew they will call it "Fairy' type I went full bias and said HELL YEAH, I like Fairiz :3 and Fairy Tail FTW XD I hope they add a move called Fairy Tail, man if they do that I'll die in peace! :D As of Fairy being super effective to ragon, I find that Fairy 'nuff... #LamePuns :p I'd like to see it weak to Poison and Ghost, resistant to Dragon, totally neutral to Ice, and neutral and/or resistant to Steel. And they should re-type many other Pokémon. Probably like this: Wynaut/Wobuffet: Fairy/Psychic Victini/ulpix/Ninetales: Fairy/Psychic Mismagius: Ghost/Fairy Celebi: Fairy/Grass Clefairy/Clebable: Fairy/Normal Seriously, Celebi and Clefairy ARE and MUST be Fairy!! ... |
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As for Fairies rivaling Dark, I can totally see it happening. I mean, I know the Legendaries are Dark and Fairy respectfully, but even if they weren't I'd still think that Fairy and Dark were some kind of related. I don't mean we'll get a whole side story for this, just maybe a sort of Psychic x Dark or Fire x Water thing. Then again, it kind of seems like it already has that with the Dragon type. I guess it's as...."mysterious as the dark side of the moon". And to the people who say they wanted a Light type, yes I do agree it would have made a lot more sense than Fairy type. But, and I'm not sure if this is well known or not, the "Psychic" type in Japan is called the "Light" type. Knowing this, Fairy type makes WAYYY more sense than having another type of...and already introduced type... I hope we get a Fire/Fairy, I am SOOOOO calling it "Natsu" XD And if it's Ice/Fairy, then whaddup "Gray"! |
Delibird and Snorunt seem to me like they'd fit in the a Fairy/Ice typing. :D and Vulpix, Ninetales, Victini and Fennekin's evolutions can be Fiary/Fire *.*
Oh! And Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss and Meloetta, all of them need to have Fairy type instead of their Normal type part. :] |
I to thought of replacing normal with fairy, but I do not see them getting rid of half the pokemon with normal and replacing it with fairy. I do not see them messing with any dual type pokemon at that.
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Normal type is one of the best types tho because only fighting is super effective
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Im excited to see what pokemon are going to be classified as Fairy type!
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The 1st time I heard about Fairy Wind it reminded me of Silver Wind and Ominous Wind.
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I am interested as to who is getting re-typed. Ideas?
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I can try once I get computor access to try though. I love doing math, so I may do it anyway. |
I sure hope Clefairy is fairy type, it deserves it more than Jigglypuff, what with it being from the moon and having FAIRY in it's name.
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Every pokemon in the Fairy egg group, not including those with 2 types already.
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I will be interesting to see Pikachu be fairy...though I can see it. Notch eared Pichu in HgSs made me think of fairies living in the forest, and being mischievous which is what they've classically been associated with.
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I do not believe Pikachu will become fairy type. Pikachu has been a mascot of the series ever since, not to mention a textbook example of a classic electric type, and making a huge change to it seems unlikely.
Yes, it would be completely useful competitively, but I just don't see every Fairy (Egg Group) member becoming fairies. I think the fact that the trailer debutting fairies showcased Gardevoir--who was never in the Fairy (Egg Group)--is Gamefreak's way of hinting to us that fairies will not be as restricted to the current egg group as we think I do find it very probable that Pikachu will learn fairy type moves. |
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Being honest I'd kinda have liked GF to rename Normal to Fairy rather than add a new type... but that's just me :) I just saw this on Pokememes: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7595104256/hA140E3E2/ What I'm focusing on is where it says Fairy types are strong against Dark types... Can anyone use dem mad math skillz or otherwise to confirm this? I was hoping that dark would be strong against Fairy. |
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I'll see if I can access the calculator from my phone, but I remember hitting 100 damage a few times when I first started doing the damage calculations. Everytime I've run x4 damage, I can't get96 and 100 in the same BP or level setting. This and the fact that mock ups are almost always shown near same level, especially with an underleveled hydreigon in player possession. The numbers don't seem to add up. |
Okay fair enough. That makes me slightly more relieved. I'm still kinda hoping Dark is strong against Fairy.
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I'll compile a full list of damage ranges when I get home from work to get a large scale comparison. With a few more examples maybe we'll see what we missed if anything at all. |
I know I have said it before, but let me explain a bit this time. (Or at least what I can explain.)
I think Fairy will be strong against Dark as well as Dragon. Don't know why. I think Fairy will be weak to at least Poison, due to fairies mainly being water and forest deities and what not. Therefore, one of the main "evils" of forest and water is Pollution and Poison. Another possible weakness is ghost, but there is nothing really to back this up with other then Ghost pokemon are only strong against other ghost types and dark types. Dark and Ghost could change positions. |
Yes, but it the fairy attack could also be lower, because you have not included the Sp attack of gardevoir and the sp defence of hdragon. This means that it could be se to both dragon and dark.
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EDIT: Going to use Bulbapedia's example since its written in a way I can read and it was the first thing I could get my hands on. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/47/DamageCalc.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/32/ModifierCalc.png Assuming Level is 50 for both. x4: Damage=(((2x50+10)/250)x(125/90)x60+2)xModifier(5.10,6) (5.10,6)=Modifier=1.5x4x1x1x(0.85;1.00) Damage = ((110/250)x1.3888888x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = (.44x1.3888888888x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = (.6111111x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = 38.6666666666666(5.10,6) 197.2, 232 197,232 x2:Damage=(((2x50+10)/250)+(125/90)x60+2)xModifier(2.55,3) (2.55,3)=Modifier=1.5x2x1x1x(0.85;1.00) (98,116) |
Try 117 sp attack and 85 sp defence those are the lowest possiable stats.
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From what I can tell, initially I was wrong. Now that I get to sit and do the math myself rather than using the calculators presented on Smogon. It is true that you cannot deal 100 points of damage, though as I had said, that Sylveon had to be a low level, at least half that of Hydreigon to do that kinda damage with a base of 60. The calculation the guy gave was much simpler than what I just did, though I read the harder one easier than his. Though I have no idea what his "Initial Damage" thing is so I have no idea how he had gotten the numbers he used. Using the minimums anyway...x4 is 195-230 x2 is 97-115 Really the minimums barely changed anything...though it does kill of the ability to use that guy's calculation to reverse check it. EDIT: Applying the guy's formula to the one above....You can't get the numbers I got but it doesn't look like I missed anything. I don't know who is using the right formula now.... Using another Smogon one...This one is so much easier to use omg. Using Bug since they haven't updated Fairy. 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 96-114 (63.15 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (96, 96, 98, 98, 98, 102, 102, 102, 104, 104, 108, 108, 108, 110, 110, 114) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 50 Defender Info Grass HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 192-228 (126.31 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO (192, 192, 196, 196, 196, 204, 204, 204, 208, 208, 216, 216, 216, 220, 220, 228) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 50 Defender Info Grass/Psychic HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 84-100 (55.26 - 65.78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (84, 84, 84, 84, 88, 88, 88, 88, 88, 88, 96, 96, 96, 96, 96, 100) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 32 to 34 Defender Info Grass/Psychic HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 As far as I can see only thing that rings true is x2 damage cannot do 100 points of damage to them. It has to be x4 to deal 100 points of damage. So it looks as if Fairy is SE to Dark with this. I find it hard to believe myself and I just did the math. Gardevoir must have been a fairly low level which is a little unprecedented. So Fairy: Weak to Poison Strong against Dark, Dragon, Ice Unconfirmed: Weak to Steel Strong against Fighting Resisted by Fire/Psychic Resists nothing Immune Dragon Still highly doubt the last one as its too much. |
What is the formula for the actual damage? Because Gardevoirs Sp attack is not known unless it's a lvl 50 or 100
And for it to do 96 damage how does that prove that it's SE to dark type too. |
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96 and 100 (the latter is what proves the SE to dark) are points to focus your calculations on. With it you can assemble the other information and make accurate attempts to find what the base power was or do accurate damage counts to see how they play. 100 cannot be done on a x2 setting so Hydreigon taking 100 Damage from a Fairy attack means it is doubly weak to it. |
But that doesnt prove much. If it was Se to both dark and dragon shouldn't it have done more than 100 damage?
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As I said 100 Damage can only be done by a Pokemon with x4 damage. |
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I was thinking about this last night when I was going through a list of possible old pokemon that could be made Fairy.
What about Illumise and Volbeat. They are both only bug type, but they have always slightly reminded me of fairies. |
That's seems possible....
Me want a Fairy Dragon!! |
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Yeah, Volbeat and Illumise being Fairy would make sense not to mention that it will make those junk Bugs more useful.
Which moves you think may become of the Fairy type? Imo: Charm, Wish, Nature Power, Sing, Relic Song, ... |
I think Moonlight and maybe Metronome could both be changed to Fairy.
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I'm thinking the Jigglypuff and Clefairy lines, Dunsparce, the Azurill line, etc. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the previous purely Normal typed Pokemon will pick up Fairy as a secondary type.
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Both Jigglypuff and Azurill lines have been confirmed. There should be a good amount to become fairy. Depends on what GF wants to do though.
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Other moves hmm...probably Attract, Captivate, Perish Song(Wasn't there a story of mermaids singing to pirates luring them to their deaths? Mermaids are...kind of fairy-ish...), Refresh, Moonlight ( maybe Morning Sun too? ) Tickle, maybe Trump Card? I really only see them changing a few moves into Fairy and introducing a bunch. I'd probably say Swift, Moonlight, Wish, Attract+Charm+Captivate and Sing will be reclassed and that's it.. |
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Sing, Attract, Charm, Captivate, Swift, Double Slap, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Helping Hand and Heal Bell.
Those are just 10 normal attacks that I saw. There is probably a lot more that could be used. Those are just some I could see. Maybe not Double Slap. Also, another pokemon that could be part fairy would be Chimecho as a Psy/Fairy. |
Moves that should definitely be Fairy type are; Charm, Captivate, Sweet Kiss, Lovely Kiss and Wish. Others don't seem to have that 'Fairy' quality to them... I mean moves like Sing could be fairy but they can't change every normal move to Fairy but I think that a fair few will be. I think a lot of Normal types will be changed and Pokemon that have Normal as a dual type simply because I think Normal was meant to be a 'placeholder' of sorts for a Fairy type.
I think Eevee could possibly get the type, Clefairy's line obviously will; as will Jigglypuff's. I think Miltank, Psyduck, Golduck, Poliwag, Poliwhirl and Politoed could possibly get it, too. Vulpix and Ninetales, too, maybe? |
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I'm not really seeing any old moves changing, most mentioned are fairly normal in pretty much every aspect of their being. Moonlight, sure I can see that changing, but why was Morning Sun never fire? I don't see one changing and not the other. None of the attacks really seem out of place as normal attacks. Sure they may need to retype some or else we'll get 15+ fairy attacks this gen to balance things out. |
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Some ideas for fairy type moves:
- Magic Powder: 25% (each) to poison, burn, freeze or put the opponent to sleep. Accuracy = 60. PP = 10. - Fairy Wind: 10% chance to raise all of the user's stats. Pwr = 75, Acc = 100, PP = 5, Type = Special. Spoiler:
- Swift should be changed to Fairy Type. - Star Kick: Fairy version of Double Kick. Pwr = 50, Acc = 80, PP = 10, Type = Physical (direct). Spoiler:
- Star Punch: 10% chance to lower the foe's attack by one stage. Pwr = 90, Acc = 100, PP = 10, Type = Physical (direct). - Star Drop: Fairy version of Draco Meteor. Pwr = 140, Acc = 90, PP = 5, Type = Special. - Starburst: Fairy version of Fire Blast except it has a 10% chance to lower the foe's attack by one stage. Pwr = 120, Acc = 80, PP = 5, Type = Special. ... A lot of the inspiration came from Swift =P ... - Rainbow Beam: 10% chance to confuse the foe. Pwr = 95, Acc = 100, PP = 10, Type = Special. There's a lot they could do with Fairy moves to be honest. Also, I think: - They should be weak to Poison and Steel. - They should do no damage to Normal types. (if "normal" people don't believe in ghosts, they shouldn't believe in fairies either.) - They should be super effective against Dragon and Dark types. - They should be resistant to Dragon moves or immune? - They should be resisted by Steel and maybe also Poison types. These are mainly for balancing purposes (they don't have to make sense. Bug on Psychic and Dark didn't :/) |
I don't really think any existing moves will be changed to the Fairy type. I don't know any moves that need to be changed, and I didn't think changing Bite to the Dark type was necessary...
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Fairy type is going to benefit the competitive battling community in a big way. Dragon types are a staple on every team nowadays, as their power and bulk are unmatched. Now, I see fairies becoming staples as well as the most reliable dragon counters, beating even Ice types that would take down their own dragon team-mates. I can see where people that think it will negatively effect the competitive scene are coming from, but I still think it won't be a bad thing at all.
I think it wasn't 'needed', per say, but I think a little spice was a smart decision. This generation is obviously a new chapter in the book of Pokemon with ditching the spriting art-style and now this new type release, and to me it's very positive. Changing things up will bring new spark to veteran Pokemon gamers and attract newer people to the franchise. The game would've been alright without it, but like I mentioned before, I think it will only benefit this gen. Actually, I don't like the name fairy that much. The term is used in lots of other games and activities similar to it, such as Yu-gi-oh! and the connotation of fairy didn't work too well with Pokemon, imo. Light type would have been a better fit just because of the way pokemon types have been laid out. Had dark types been named demon type or something of that sort, fairy would be a much easier choice to understand. Anyway, the name doesn't matter at all in the long run, haha. I love the strengths Fairies currently possess. Being able to hit dragons hard as well as ice types will make it an extremely popular competitive type choice and obviously be valuable in game as well. The rumored weaknesses are understandable and work for me. Poison is an underrated and mostly ignored type except for when it's paired with grass or another type, but now it becomes a counter to the dragon slayer, which means more people will consider poison types for their team. Steel is already a popular type for their natural bulk and enormous list of resistances, but I actually like that they'll be super-effective against Fairy, just because when it comes to using steel-type moves for super-effective damage... It's not that common. A number of pokemon will be thrown into this typing, and some of them are blatanly obvious (i.e. Clefairy line), but the reveal of Marill being a fairy type hints that there will be some unexpected fairies in the game as well. It'll be interesting to see which pokemon they decide to convert. |
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I can see that, there's definitely two kinds of normal types. The cutesy/magical looking ones (Jigglypuff, Audino) and the average animal looking ones. (Zigzagoon, Ursaring) Looking at it that way you could say they had the Fairy type in mind right from the start. |
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I hope there will be enough moves for Fairy, also it seems most people want Fairie to have lot of weaknesses to make other types more powerful.
Off-Topic: That new theme hurt my eyes good thing I can change it. |
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Electric Pokémon represent electricity, electrical energy, and light. |
What will Arceus look like in it's fairy forme? 0.O
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I like the idea of a fairy type, but not that they're super effective against dragons. Can you imagine a tiny little Clefairy or Jigglypuff destroying a Hydreigon or Dragonite? It just doesn't seem right. I'd think that fairy types would be super effective against dark types or ghost types, but not dragon types.
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I just don't understand how so many people say Fairy > Dragon is stupid. Guys, Hydreigon is weak to Joltik. So shh.
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So its not a matter of one being effected, its a matter of all of them having a non-supported weakness added in for the sake of adding a weakness and nothing else. That is why we complain about it. |
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Also, there are so much type advantages and disadvantages in Pokemon that don't make sense. If anything, Fairy > Dragon is one of the more logical typings. The fairy bestows magic on the weapon to slay the dragon. It's similar to how Psychic and Fighting work, Mind > Matter. Magic > Might. |
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As for type match-ups, none from the past make less sense than fairy being stronger than Dragons. When Dragons are evil in lore, fairies are weak, frail pathetic creatures that trick humans into killing dragons for them since they are powerless against dragons themselves. When fairies are evil, they go out of thier way to avoid confronting dragons because they are powerless against them. As for Magic>Might...no just no. A dragon IS the embodiment of magic. It is a being of pure magic and are impervious to direct assaults of magical kinds. Most media Dragons are highly resistant to magic. So there is nothing that can be pulled up that makes fairy strong against dragons make any sense. Gamefreak even said only reason it exists is because they wanted something to be stronger than Dragons. |
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And don't give me the whole "dragons are imperious to magic". In most fairy tales the only way to defeat the dragon is to use magic-based weapons. This is evident in SO many japanese stories, games, myths, anime etc. In Fire Emblem, there's always a sword with the sole purpose to defeat dragons with a description like "embroidered with ancient magic/ sword from the gods to slay dragons." Fairy Tail, an anime created in Japan, are about Dragons only being able to be defeated using Dragon Slaying Magic, which many of the members in Fairy Tail possess. In Pokemon, Dragon is weak to Dragon, Ice, and Fairy. If we are basing these type advantages/disadvantages on other examples of Fairy and Dragons, it only fits perfectly. Also, if Dragons are immune to magic, then what is Ice? Why is Ice strong against Dragon? Because it freezes them? If you say Ice has nothing to do with magic and such, then we can say the same thing about Fairy. Why? Because in the Pokemon World, Ice, Dragons and Fairies are whatever GameFreak wants them to be. GameFreak has told us that in the Pokemon World, Fairies are strong against Dragons. We can't argue this is stupid or makes no sense because it just is. It'd be like saying that trees giving out oxygen and taking in CO2 makes no sense. Just accept it, because I'm 99.99999% sure that GameFreak aren't going to change this because of a few close-minded haters/fans. |
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Do you think maybe they'lll change existing moves to fairy-type? Like how Bite and Gust went from normal to Dark and Flying, respectively? I'm thinking moves like Moonlight, Wish, maybe even Flash if they agree to let dubbers decide to call it Light (which they may want to do).
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Divine weapons also are not magic. A Weapon from god has no magic in it, its a divine weapon that nullifies magic since Magic is a manipulation of ones will upon the planet and no one's will is stronger than that of a god. No magical weapons in stories were ever used and made directly for killing dragons. None of them have ever said, poke it with this and it'll die. Some that I know of were enhancements to increase the weapon's ability, such as making it sharper than humanly possible, this would allow a sword to cut through the thick hide of a dragon. A Sword that would erupt into flames wouldn't do anything to a Dragon. And again there are no stories that exist where the Fairy is not a sniveling coward when they meet with Dragons, so no there is no sense in Fairy being stronger than Dragon. Quote:
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I still don't think fairy pokemon will stand to much of a chance against dragons. I think they should increase the stats of the pokemon that are now fairytypes from past generations. But this is just my opion.
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No, I'm talking about pokemon from the past generations that are now fairy type. I honestly don't think gamefreak will change thier stats. Tho some of the new fairy pokemon might be stronger when they're releqsed. But I'm talking about the previous pokemon. Tho if they did infact change the stats of previous pokemon the are now fairys, then it will be alittle better. Ethier way, I'm stating what I think. You don't have to agree or disagree. Feel free to do which ever tho. I don't care. |
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Depending on how Fairy-Type moves are defensively, I don't see much change for Azumarill. A lot Azumarills carry Ice Punch, which do x4 to most dragons, whereas a STAB Fairy Move would do x3. But again, it all depends on Fairy's other offensive and defensive capabilities. As for our Fairy > Dragon discussion, let's put it off until the release of Pokemon X and Y, when we have more Fairy Pokemon revealed, when we find out their base stats and when we find out how they fare in the story and metagame. |
I'm okay with the "Fairy" type, but I would seriously question GF's character if it used this as a platform to launch a certain massive stereotype into the game as a (few) humanshape pokemon.
I'm hoping that when GF creates Fairy-Type pokemon, it won't confine the type to the cute & cuddly. "Fairy" encompasses impish mythological beings like goblins, gremlins, and trolls, too. In fact, Fairies are divided into a seelie court (light) and unseelie court (dark). It wouldn't be right to equate "Fairy" to "Light." I'm also hoping that with the introduction of new types, the list of Normal-type pokemon and moves get(s) shorter (as more are converted to a real category that does not scream, "Generic!") The Fairy-type, in this way, is something I welcome. |
For a long time I was objecting to having any more new typings because I felt the game didn't need any and because I thought adding a new type so late into the franchise would be kind of dumb.
I'm actually really ecstatic about fairy type. I didn't like the name originally, but fairies aren't necessarily like Tinker Bell and other dainty things we see depicted in the media. And I looked into that more and ultimately I decided I actually really like fairy-type and I can't wait to raise a Pokemon of that type. Swirlex is the most adorable thing! I'm curious to see how much of a game-changer it will be. :) |
They could have called it Troll type instead of Fairy :P It would make more sense to internet users since the new type will "troll" a strong type which is Dragon by cute little pocket monsters ^_^.
I can see in the far future GF making a new type called "Candy" to correspond to pokes like Swirlix & Vanillite & other futuristic pokes made after that {XD} |
The effect of the addition of the fairy type will depend on the stats of the members of the new types.
I believe dragonite may remain a popular pokemon in the competitive metagame despite having another quadruple type disadvantage, as well as having a STAB type that is useless on fairy type pokemon. It has relatively high stats, a large movepool, and, if dreamworld abilities are not terminated, multiscale. It will probably have at least one attack that will be very/supereffective against fairies. Its stats, ability, and stat-boosting moves may enable it to survive at least one fairy attack and give it a chance to use a very/supereffective move on the fairy pokemon. It may also be able to out-speed a few fairy types. Having access to both substitute and roost will also be a huge asset. Suffice to say, I would expect to see more choice-scarfed dragonites in the metagame in order for them to gain the upper-hand on any fairy-typed foe they may face. |
My #1 hope for Fairy is that they release some guys that are not just wimpy and pink.
They could do a lot with the Fairy type, including some pretty sinister monsters. |
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Thus far the only Gen VI fairy to not be pink is Xerneas and he looks tough. I'm hoping the cutesy fairies are strong just to see people's reactions... |
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I am still hoping we get the full details of the type matchups for Fairy. |
At this point knowing what we know Gardevoir is the third strongest Fairy Pokémon if Xerneas is 680 like the other mascots (well the majority), and if Sylveon has 525 bst, in terms of bst total that is. Hopefully there'll be others.
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fairy types are pretty much assumed to be the best counter to dragons using outrage etc., being able to switch in while they're locked relatively unharmed. based off the information we have so far (virtually none) you'd have to assume the most useful fairy is one that has higher def and can threaten a dragon with fairy stab or something.
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If Fairy is resistant to Dragon, they would've better chances to survive Outrage and counter it...
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I think fairy types are good. I can just imagine Flabebe using Tickle or something on a Hydreigon and the Hydreigon faints. That would hilarious.
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I think we can pretty much confirm that Flabebe has more evolution stages, according to the trailer released a few hours ago its HP base stat is at 35...I know a lot of Pokemon do tend to have low base stats i.e. Dusknoir, but not fully evolved Pokemon.
Also, if (I'm 100% sure this will happen but some people may say otherwise) Sylveon were to continue the eeveelutions base stat distribution, this is what I think it'll turn out to be: Sylveon Base Stats: Hp : 130 Atk : 65 Def : 65/60 Sp Atk : 95 Sp Def : 110 Speed : 60/65 Total : 525 I definitely think it's HP will be 130 as Fairy-like Pokemon tend to have high HP i.e. Azumarill, Jigglypuff, Blissey, Alomomola, Cresselia, Musharna. The rest I pretty much based on Blissey but I think it could be like this. ( I chose Sp. Def > Sp. Atk because it makes more sense and it would have the same stats as Vaporeon if it was like that). |
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I guess the reason Joltik wasn't shown a lot after Black and White's release was due to being one of the several remaining Unova Pokemon they wanted to reveal after game release. Its evo Galvantula was one of those revealed before release though. |
I hope Flabebe has more stages, hopefully it'll gain the Grass type along the way...
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I see Flabebe as this generation's gimmick so I don't really expect any use from it.
Still hoping to see less Disneyfied Fairies and more Brother's Grimm Fairies. |
I found out that the "winged" fairies can be traced be traced back to the 1800's as I saw a picture of a painting of one dating from that era. So maybe Pokemon will have one eventually.
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Is anyone else NOT hyped for the Fairy-type at all?
Out of all the revealed Fairy Pokémon, the only one I found interesting is Xerneas, and that's a legendary. The rest are all tiny, cute, pinky, girly creatures that in my head wouldn't be able to kill Dragons at all. Probably only Sylveon (who will have high BST since it's an Eeveelution) and Gardevoir (who we know is a strong Pokémon) seem capable of bringing a Dragon to its knees. The rest... They all look weak and, frankly, feeble things I could blow away with a slap. I never really had a type I liked the least, as all types had some pretty interesting Pokémon, but Fairy is probably going to become just that for me. These Pokémon simply aren't my style. I never liked stuff like Clefairy and Chansey, so these new Fairy Pokémon are quite unappealing to me, even though the idea of a type that beats Dragon is quite interesting. If the likes of Swirlix start beating up stuff like Dratini I'm afraid to say Pokémon has jumped the shark. Hopefully they evolve into something cool, although these kinds of Pokémon rarely become cool when they evolve. Quote:
To effectively stop Dragons, a Fairy Pokémon would need very high Defense and/or HP. So far, none of the Pokémon shown seem to fit those criteria. They all look quite frail and weak to me. Even if it evolves, I can't picture Spritzee killing Garchomp or something like that. |
I honestly don't think it's 'right' to judge the new type to that extent yet. We've only seen about a handful of new Fairy-type Pokemon, and even though I agree that they all look rather weak and frail, that doesn't mean they can't evolve into something a bit more menacing or impressive. I'm sure there are other designs that will look a bit more impressive with greater stats.
Regardless though, I don't think their designs should really factor into whether or not they're able to beat down on a Dragon. It's all about their stats and capabilities, at least in the games that is. I personally just think that there's too much unknown about this new type to think that they aren't very impressive. Once we get a better look at what they can do, then I'll judge their effectiveness. Right now, I'm just excited to see a new type and have it mix up the meta-game a bit. |
I'm really enthusiastic about a new type, it has been over ten years since the last introduction of new types. I'll definitely be using a Fairy type during my first play through on X which will solidify my opinion on the Fairy type, but for now I'm pretty psyched!
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This was just a weird experience when I first heard about it. I was in one of those groups of people who didn't want a new type. It's just one of those things you don't want to happen for no particular reason, and when it happens you just let it go.
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I wanted new types. However I wanted them to be light and sound. Light because of dark type, and Sound because of all the Sound based moves. Fairy is okay. I'm still very glad that I picked Y though.
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Potential Fairy Types
So this is too big to be a thread post and it sparks a discussion of its own. To me, Fairy types are Pokémon that are helpful, mythical creatures (minotaur, kraken, god, etc), and actually resemble Fairies/pixies/goblins. So what Pokémon do I reckon could get Fairy type? I have two categories for this. Ones that have their type replaced and ones that gain the type.
So yeah, here's my list of evolutionary lines that I think will become Fairy. Re-typed -Clefairy -Jigglypuff -Chansey -Togepi -Dunsparce -Snubbull -Azurill (Marill will become Water/Fairy) -Buneary -Audino Gain Fairy type -Vulpix -Tauros (I want it to evolve into a Fairy/Ground minotaur) -Snorlax -Mareep -Bellossom -Sudowoodo -Sunkern -Misdreavus -Wobbuffet -Miltank -Skitty -Volbeat -Illumise -Milotic -Chimecho -Glalie -Luvdisc -Cherubi -Finneon -Uxie -Mesprit -Azelf -Cresselia -Land Shaymin -Petilil -Mincinno -Gothita -Vanillite -Alomomola What do you reckon? |
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