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Yes, but it the fairy attack could also be lower, because you have not included the Sp attack of gardevoir and the sp defence of hdragon. This means that it could be se to both dragon and dark.
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EDIT: Going to use Bulbapedia's example since its written in a way I can read and it was the first thing I could get my hands on. http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/47/DamageCalc.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/32/ModifierCalc.png Assuming Level is 50 for both. x4: Damage=(((2x50+10)/250)x(125/90)x60+2)xModifier(5.10,6) (5.10,6)=Modifier=1.5x4x1x1x(0.85;1.00) Damage = ((110/250)x1.3888888x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = (.44x1.3888888888x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = (.6111111x60+2)x(5.10,6) Damage = 38.6666666666666(5.10,6) 197.2, 232 197,232 x2:Damage=(((2x50+10)/250)+(125/90)x60+2)xModifier(2.55,3) (2.55,3)=Modifier=1.5x2x1x1x(0.85;1.00) (98,116) |
Try 117 sp attack and 85 sp defence those are the lowest possiable stats.
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From what I can tell, initially I was wrong. Now that I get to sit and do the math myself rather than using the calculators presented on Smogon. It is true that you cannot deal 100 points of damage, though as I had said, that Sylveon had to be a low level, at least half that of Hydreigon to do that kinda damage with a base of 60. The calculation the guy gave was much simpler than what I just did, though I read the harder one easier than his. Though I have no idea what his "Initial Damage" thing is so I have no idea how he had gotten the numbers he used. Using the minimums anyway...x4 is 195-230 x2 is 97-115 Really the minimums barely changed anything...though it does kill of the ability to use that guy's calculation to reverse check it. EDIT: Applying the guy's formula to the one above....You can't get the numbers I got but it doesn't look like I missed anything. I don't know who is using the right formula now.... Using another Smogon one...This one is so much easier to use omg. Using Bug since they haven't updated Fairy. 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 96-114 (63.15 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (96, 96, 98, 98, 98, 102, 102, 102, 104, 104, 108, 108, 108, 110, 110, 114) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 50 Defender Info Grass HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 192-228 (126.31 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO (192, 192, 196, 196, 196, 204, 204, 204, 208, 208, 216, 216, 216, 220, 220, 228) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 50 Defender Info Grass/Psychic HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 0 SpA (custom) (Move 1) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 84-100 (55.26 - 65.78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (84, 84, 84, 84, 88, 88, 88, 88, 88, 88, 96, 96, 96, 96, 96, 100) Attacker Info Bug SpA=125 Bug Special 60 Bp Lv 32 to 34 Defender Info Grass/Psychic HP=92 SpD=90 lv 50 As far as I can see only thing that rings true is x2 damage cannot do 100 points of damage to them. It has to be x4 to deal 100 points of damage. So it looks as if Fairy is SE to Dark with this. I find it hard to believe myself and I just did the math. Gardevoir must have been a fairly low level which is a little unprecedented. So Fairy: Weak to Poison Strong against Dark, Dragon, Ice Unconfirmed: Weak to Steel Strong against Fighting Resisted by Fire/Psychic Resists nothing Immune Dragon Still highly doubt the last one as its too much. |
What is the formula for the actual damage? Because Gardevoirs Sp attack is not known unless it's a lvl 50 or 100
And for it to do 96 damage how does that prove that it's SE to dark type too. |
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96 and 100 (the latter is what proves the SE to dark) are points to focus your calculations on. With it you can assemble the other information and make accurate attempts to find what the base power was or do accurate damage counts to see how they play. 100 cannot be done on a x2 setting so Hydreigon taking 100 Damage from a Fairy attack means it is doubly weak to it. |
But that doesnt prove much. If it was Se to both dark and dragon shouldn't it have done more than 100 damage?
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As I said 100 Damage can only be done by a Pokemon with x4 damage. |
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I was thinking about this last night when I was going through a list of possible old pokemon that could be made Fairy.
What about Illumise and Volbeat. They are both only bug type, but they have always slightly reminded me of fairies. |
That's seems possible....
Me want a Fairy Dragon!! |
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Yeah, Volbeat and Illumise being Fairy would make sense not to mention that it will make those junk Bugs more useful.
Which moves you think may become of the Fairy type? Imo: Charm, Wish, Nature Power, Sing, Relic Song, ... |
I think Moonlight and maybe Metronome could both be changed to Fairy.
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I'm thinking the Jigglypuff and Clefairy lines, Dunsparce, the Azurill line, etc. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the previous purely Normal typed Pokemon will pick up Fairy as a secondary type.
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Both Jigglypuff and Azurill lines have been confirmed. There should be a good amount to become fairy. Depends on what GF wants to do though.
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Other moves hmm...probably Attract, Captivate, Perish Song(Wasn't there a story of mermaids singing to pirates luring them to their deaths? Mermaids are...kind of fairy-ish...), Refresh, Moonlight ( maybe Morning Sun too? ) Tickle, maybe Trump Card? I really only see them changing a few moves into Fairy and introducing a bunch. I'd probably say Swift, Moonlight, Wish, Attract+Charm+Captivate and Sing will be reclassed and that's it.. |
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Sing, Attract, Charm, Captivate, Swift, Double Slap, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Helping Hand and Heal Bell.
Those are just 10 normal attacks that I saw. There is probably a lot more that could be used. Those are just some I could see. Maybe not Double Slap. Also, another pokemon that could be part fairy would be Chimecho as a Psy/Fairy. |
Moves that should definitely be Fairy type are; Charm, Captivate, Sweet Kiss, Lovely Kiss and Wish. Others don't seem to have that 'Fairy' quality to them... I mean moves like Sing could be fairy but they can't change every normal move to Fairy but I think that a fair few will be. I think a lot of Normal types will be changed and Pokemon that have Normal as a dual type simply because I think Normal was meant to be a 'placeholder' of sorts for a Fairy type.
I think Eevee could possibly get the type, Clefairy's line obviously will; as will Jigglypuff's. I think Miltank, Psyduck, Golduck, Poliwag, Poliwhirl and Politoed could possibly get it, too. Vulpix and Ninetales, too, maybe? |
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I'm not really seeing any old moves changing, most mentioned are fairly normal in pretty much every aspect of their being. Moonlight, sure I can see that changing, but why was Morning Sun never fire? I don't see one changing and not the other. None of the attacks really seem out of place as normal attacks. Sure they may need to retype some or else we'll get 15+ fairy attacks this gen to balance things out. |
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