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Treecko July 4th, 2013 1:34 AM

New Pokemon Monorpale/Hitotsuki/Honedge!
 
Surprised there isn't a thread about this yet.

There's been a new Pokemon Revealed this morning at the Japan Expo. It's known in France as Monorpale and Japan as Hitotsuki and is a Steel/Ghost type. And it's a Pokemon based off a sword.


It has a sheath and during battle it unsheathes itself.


Thoughts?

ilias_ July 4th, 2013 1:45 AM

It is not that bad. But I don't like it. Maybe because I don't like its type. I find it ugly. :\

Treecko July 4th, 2013 1:49 AM

Yeah I think it's weird but cool at the same time. It's weird that It's just... a sword.But keep in mind there's been countless Pokemon based on inanimate objects. Magnets, ice cream, rocks, chandeliers , gears, eggs, sludge, bells, weird disc bell things (Bronzor), etc. So I expected Game Freak to make at least one Pokemon like this. XD

It could end up evolving into some really cool, like a possessed knight or something. I like it's typing, Steel/Ghost is something different so that's always welcomed by me.

Squidchan July 4th, 2013 2:04 AM

I like the way it looks, but it probably won't end up being a favourite unless it's evolution is something really impressive.

Sabrewulf238 July 4th, 2013 2:05 AM

I like it, I think it's because of the tassle it has attached to it's hilt. Maybe it's more like some kind of ceremonial sword?

It makes me think of Bronzor/Bronzong.

shubham2207 July 4th, 2013 2:07 AM

Better than bronzor atleast... And its type, awesome..! Just give that sword thingy LEVITATE !

skyluigi2 July 4th, 2013 2:08 AM

I actually like it. One of my fave Gen VI Pokemon, of the ones that have been shown so far. Then again, I can see this being the next Trubbish or Vanillite, because for some reason, people don't like Pokemon based on 'items'.

WishCookie July 4th, 2013 2:12 AM

What the...I'm not sure if I really like the design yet.

Wobbu July 4th, 2013 2:18 AM

I'd bet that it will have a good attack stat (assuming it can learn Swords Dance)

Firox July 4th, 2013 2:29 AM

It may take me a while before I do like it or not. So far I only like it because its new, and just seeing it for the first time.

Sabrewulf238 July 4th, 2013 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsziede (Post 7723683)
I'd bet that it will have a good attack stat (assuming it can learn Swords Dance)

I can already see all the fanart of pokemon using the move swords dance and actually end up dancing with Monorpale instead.

On another note, this might seem strange but when I saw the blue picture first, I thought it looked like something from Avatar: The last airbender. (or Xiaolin Showdown)

metalhand July 4th, 2013 3:01 AM

it would be cool if it can become a pokemon weapon in battle

TheCrimson102 July 4th, 2013 3:14 AM

Two things,
1. It's bugging me that you can't see the sword through the sheath.
2. This is one pokemon i'll have on my team, because not only is it a giant sword, it is also able to levitate. And it's a sword.

Spinosaurus July 4th, 2013 3:40 AM

Holy crap I love it. A possessed floating sword? Awwww yeah.

Reminds me of Donkey Kong Country 2's Kleever, only less cooler because it doesn't have a skull and FIRE.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/5/54/Kleever2.jpg

JayTheKing July 4th, 2013 3:44 AM

I dont really like it now but i will love it if its evolution is like this:
http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/psx/castlevsn/monsters/spectral_sword2.gif

classiccartoonsftw July 4th, 2013 4:09 AM

I may consider this Pokemon for my team if Gengar isn't in the Kalos Pokedex.

SnowpointQuincy July 4th, 2013 4:11 AM

Reminds me of Windwaker with its color pallet. A LOT.

I LOVE its Type - Steel / Ghost.

IT DOES unsheathe - So Cool.

Bronsor + Monorpale = Awesome Double Battle - Ghostly Sword and Shield.

I'm Officially calling it --- THIS IS THE FULLY EVOLVED VERSION. (speculation.)

JayTheKing July 4th, 2013 4:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7723750)
Reminds me of Windwaker with its color pallet. A LOT.

I LOVE its Type - Steel / Ghost.

IT DOES unsheathe - So Cool.

Bronsor + Monorpale = Awesome Double Battle - Ghostly Sword and Shield.

I'm Officially calling it --- THIS IS THE FULLY EVOLVED VERSION. (speculation.)

But Bronzor is a mirror not a shield!

Spinosaurus July 4th, 2013 4:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7723750)

I'm Officially calling it --- THIS IS THE FULLY EVOLVED VERSION. (speculation.)

I don't know. Look at the french and japanese name.

"Hitotsu" and "mono". I'd imagine it'll be this gen's Magnemite Pokemon. As in when it evolves (and I'm gonna bet it's gonna have "futatsu" and "duo" in its japanese and french name respectively) it's gonna be TWO swords!

SnowpointQuincy July 4th, 2013 4:55 AM

I'm Guessing it will not have Levitate, by the same logic of Magneton.

It's Ability will be Defiant - If you try to lower its stats, IT JUST GETS SHARPER!

Also assuming is a Psychical Sweeper.

Mithel_Celestia July 4th, 2013 5:16 AM

It certainly is more interesting than any other pokemon based on inanimate objects caused its an object commonly seen in alot of Fantasy and RPG games(which Pokemon is). Animate swords aren't quite Farfetch'd as countless games featured swords that apparantly have their own souls...hmmm, now why does that seem familiar...



Yes, The Soul series can be seen as one of the games with swords that have their own life(Soulcalibur itself and it's opposite Soul Edge, for those who don't know the series.)

PlatinumDude July 4th, 2013 6:18 AM

I never thought the day that a Ghost/Steel Pokemon to be introduced would actually happen. I was expecting a possessed suit of armor, but a possessed sword looks just as cool, IMO.

Hikamaru July 4th, 2013 6:27 AM

This Pokemon looks really interesting I have to say, and that type combo it has gives it quite a few resistances and 3 immunities as well. Gotta love that!

I could definitely see it being this generation's answer to Trubbish or Vanillite, a Pokemon based on an inanimate object. Hoping for the English name to be leaked soon.

Bellum July 4th, 2013 6:34 AM

Interesting design...bit on the unoriginal side but hey...I don't judge pokemon by looks

Pinkie-Dawn July 4th, 2013 6:56 AM

It would sense that they would reveal such a Pokemon in Paris, because Europe is enriched with its medieval history, but wouldn't it make more sense if it was Fairy/Steel, since according to fairytales, enchanted swords were forged by Fairy magic. If this sword has levitate as an ability, then it's definitely going to be a permanent resident of the OU metagame.

Kizerzin July 4th, 2013 7:16 AM

I like the design and the typing and i'm hoping that it will evolve into a possessed suit of armor. Based on typing alone this thing would fit nicely on a rain team since its only weakness would be halved.

STARMAN15 July 4th, 2013 7:35 AM

I want to see more of it, but right now all I can think of is "IT'S A HEARTLESS! KILL IT!" I'm expecting it to be more of a pokemon along the lines of Chandelure as opposed to Vanillite/Trubbish. I expect that it will evolve in some form or fashion for the same reasons stated above.

Tsutarja July 4th, 2013 7:49 AM

Wow, I actually think this one looks cool! Though I'd never thought we'd see Pokémon modeled after weapons :p I wonder if there's gonna be any use of a trainer wielding it like an actual shield or something along those lines...

Kanzler July 4th, 2013 7:55 AM

It feels weird to me because a sword is supposed to move when it's in use. So when it attacks, will it making a slashing movement? Because the whole body of Monorpale moving in such an unconventional fashion is just very jarring. And it would also be weird if Monorpale just levitated during its attacks, a sword is a dynamic object so we would expect it to move. Kind of a dilemma in how to animate it I think.

Also, those of you predicting a ghost suit of armour evolution are on the right track. I think the name is a portmanteu of mono- (for one) and vorpal (a name for a sword that has really placed itself into fantasy). So perhaps its next evolution would involve more than one "unit".

Oshamaru July 4th, 2013 8:21 AM

It doesn't look so bad. I kind of like it.
When I first saw it, I didn't even know what to think about it. But I warmed up to it really quickly. And its typing is great!
I might have one in my team.

SnowpointQuincy July 4th, 2013 8:55 AM

In Pokemon Adventures Manga, Charmeleon cuts Koga's Arbok in Half with his tail. Just imagine the damage a sword pokemon would do!

Ankylosaurus July 4th, 2013 9:05 AM

My awesome team will be Sylveon, Gogoat, Xerneas, Talonflame, the final form of Froakie, and this guy or its fully evolved form

Sabrewulf238 July 4th, 2013 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7723981)
In Pokemon Adventures Manga, Charmeleon cuts Koga's Arbok in Half with his tail. Just imagine the damage a sword pokemon would do!

I should really start checking out the pokemon manga soon.

It sounds like Monorpale will be a menace in the manga.

MarinoKadame July 4th, 2013 10:15 AM

So this sword is based on Excalibur legend I guess ?

JayTheKing July 4th, 2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7724064)
So this sword is based on Excalibur legend I guess ?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTvmjl4uMQXwx6Nv32UGpiat54lt6ZfL3GIC_z0XvFDWpL8LYrv5A
Thats what i think when someone says it is based on Excalibur.

marcc5m July 4th, 2013 11:27 AM

I can see it's evolution being a shield with two crossed over swords.

Princess Diana July 4th, 2013 11:34 AM

I don't like it. It just looks absurd.

Arc July 4th, 2013 11:39 AM

At first, I was like "...What?" Then I started to think about it, and when I saw the picture of the sword unsheathed, I was like "This is the best Pokemon of this Gen. Hands down." Steel/Ghost is a pretty awesome type as well.

TreeKangaroo July 4th, 2013 11:48 AM

I'm weird so I like things like this. I think it looks pretty BA, even if it just a sword. The typing rocks by the way. If it has levitate it will only have one weakness which is always a plus(and it's not x4 weakness!)

CloysterOyster July 4th, 2013 11:52 AM

Does it have an English name yet? Steel/Ghost is an interesting combo. Wonder what moves it'll have?

TreeKangaroo July 4th, 2013 11:57 AM

Nope, but I hope its name is not like Talonflame.

TreeKangaroo July 4th, 2013 12:06 PM

Ancient soul, kinda like cofagrigus and yamask?

pokerex July 4th, 2013 12:10 PM

i'm surprised that so many people like this pokemon. i'm sitting here thinking: "what the actual ****". I just absolutely hate the design. i thought vanillish and garbodor were bad, but this is just completely retarded. And YES i am TRYING to like it but i just can't.

As for it's typing, it's kinda cool. but the design just ruined it.

JayTheKing July 4th, 2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7724233)
Here's some footage from Junichi Masuda's message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tUYEfV4Q6xg
The part with the sword Pokemon starts at ~3:50.
Also, he mentions the idea behind this Pokemon's design but my French is unfortunately not that good so I can't understand everything. What I understood was that this sword Pokemon contains an ancient soul.
Does anyone have an idea what that move it uses could be?

Oh God!It reminded me of Yu gi oh 5Ds!
This monster used a move like that:http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101027002843/yugioh/images/thumb/9/90/ChevalierdeFleur-TF05-EN-UR-UE.jpg/300px-ChevalierdeFleur-TF05-EN-UR-UE.jpg

I like it more now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6TRC9U7dvw

The move can be named Blossom Slash!

SnowpointQuincy July 4th, 2013 12:18 PM

At this point, the only way it can be more awesome is two become 2 swords.

I want to see fan art of Golurk with a giant Bronzor in one hand and Monorpale in the other with Metagross on his chest as some sort of armor.

Emfg July 4th, 2013 12:21 PM

Next we'll be getting kettle pokemon, tea cup pokemon, screen pokemon, telephone pokemon.

Needless to say I don't like it :/

Haza July 4th, 2013 12:21 PM

I actually hate it... but I hate most Steel type Pokemon anyway...

Eruption July 4th, 2013 12:51 PM

Yeah I don't like this one. I know 'it doesn't look like a pokémon' is a pathetic reason, but seriously it's a sword. It doesn't even look living unlike the Vanillite line.

As long as it doesn't get any evos and isn't particularly strong I guess I can just forget about it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 4th, 2013 12:56 PM

I'll admit it looks strange...I actually like it better when it's sheathed as it reminds me of Bronzong.
Also the eye on it seems familiar...

Powerserge July 4th, 2013 1:09 PM

I think it's friggin' awesome! Another audacious Pokemon for Gen VI! Man I'm so psyched for this Gen with every new Pokemon reveal! I'm gonna have to have it in my team, simply because I have a habit of permanently boxing every steel-type I catch until postgame. But this is a ghost-type too...and man-o-man it's a sword Pokemon! Another Poke-dream has come true~

I definitely agree that it looks like something out of Windwaker. But hey, Pokemon has been incorporating designs from various Nintendo franchises since Gen 1, and I really love the nods to those things. Look at all the Kirby-esque Pokemon we have already!

Belldandy July 4th, 2013 1:30 PM

I think it's adorable lol A bit odd to say of a sword, but I just wanna hug it <3

Rivvon July 4th, 2013 1:50 PM

This is a very cute Pokémon! It doesn't seem fully-evolved to me, but I think when it evolves it has a chance to become even more awesome! I really love its sheath, I hope that design gets utilized more if/when it evolves.

Zorogami July 4th, 2013 2:06 PM

I have mixed feelings about his design tbh.
On one hand, it looks very...simple? But on the other, a Ghost Sword is awesome!! :D
I really love his typing already, Ghost/Steel, it's going to do pretty good defence-wise

Pinkie-Dawn July 4th, 2013 2:08 PM

Those who are saying "it's just a sword" need to realize that Ghost Pokemon are capable of possessing inanimate objects, and the fact that Ghost Pokemon in general aren't natural-looking/organic like animals and plants.

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7724258)
I want to see fan art of Golurk with a giant Bronzor in one hand and Monorpale in the other with Metagross on his chest as some sort of armor.

Funny you should say that, because I already saw one at 4chan, except it had a Escaliver's helmet for Golurk rather than Metagross being on his chest.

ballin'Blissey July 4th, 2013 2:11 PM

At first I hated it immensely ... until I saw the footage and it unsheathing, then I'm like "Cool!".

If it has Levitate then it'll have 4 immunities (Ground, Fighting, Normal, and Poison) which, if it has good stats, would make it overpowered; if it has an awesome evolution, it'll be OU. So idk, how they're planning to manage Levitate and balancing it out. Nevertheless, Ghost/Steel is awesome typing!

Now if they create these types:

Ghost/Normal (Only weakness is Dark, immune to Ghost, Fighting and Normal).
Dark/Psychic (Only weakness is Bug X4, immune to Psychic).
Ghost/Rock (Weak to Ghost, Dark, Water, Grass, Steel and Ground [unless with Levitate], immune to Fighting and Normal).
Fighting/Flying (Weak to Ice, Electric, Psychic, and Flying, immune to Ground).

I'd assume it'll be learning Fury cutter, Sacred Sword, Swords Dance, Night Slash, Slash, X-Scissor (if its evolution is two swords), Sharpen, etc.

Z25 July 4th, 2013 3:05 PM

I love this new pokemon, it's awesome and i think i just cracked the case on it. What if this guy

http://i.imgur.com/WyODS.jpg

was a legendary knight searching for this powerful sword pokemon, which could be a legendary?

TreeKangaroo July 4th, 2013 4:11 PM

Lol, people saying it's unoriginal, every gen has its inanimate object design.

SnowpointQuincy July 4th, 2013 4:30 PM

Monorpale is a STEEL type pokemon. A sword was inevitable. I love the sword.

Most steel-types are slow, so be prepared for that let down. However, considering its small size it might be more like Exedrill.

Most likely, this will the the exedrill of this Gen. A powerful OU steel type.

Xander Olivieri July 4th, 2013 7:36 PM

This is probably the first time I'm more excited about a Ghost type than my brother is. This sword is freakin awesome. If it has Levitate then I hope it doesn't evolve. Its going to be a pretty hardcore powerhouse on its own already. To me it doesn't look as if it'll evolve either. Sorta like Zangoose and other one stagers.

I'm hopin it has some insane attack stat similar to Slaking just maybe not as high and pushes close to 560 BST. So much potential ♥w♥


Quote:

Originally Posted by ballin'Blissey (Post 7724363)
At first I hated it immensely ... until I saw the footage and it unsheathing, then I'm like "Cool!".

If it has Levitate then it'll have 4 immunities (Ground, Fighting, Normal, and Poison) which, if it has good stats, would make it overpowered; if it has an awesome evolution, it'll be OU. So idk, how they're planning to manage Levitate and balancing it out. Nevertheless, Ghost/Steel is awesome typing!

I'd assume it'll be learning Fury cutter, Sacred Sword, Swords Dance, Night Slash, Slash, X-Scissor (if its evolution is two swords), Sharpen, etc.

Sacred Sword is a legendary exclusive so I don't see it getting it.

Volnutt July 4th, 2013 8:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 7724296)
Yeah I don't like this one. I know 'it doesn't look like a pokémon' is a pathetic reason, but seriously it's a sword. It doesn't even look living unlike the Vanillite line.

As long as it doesn't get any evos and isn't particularly strong I guess I can just forget about it.

Bare in mind it is a Ghost type.

I like the Sword with its sheathed form. I can't tell about the unsheathed as I haven't got a close picture yet. I am sure we will get Official Art soon since Coro Coro is just around the corner or at least they leaks are. As for the concept of the Poke I like it, I am not really one to complain especially when it is an inanimate object they are just bond to happen in every generation.

Killjoy July 4th, 2013 8:56 PM

I like it! It's unique, and interesting. I'll use one

JayTheKing July 5th, 2013 2:17 AM

Honedge
Honedge comes into being when a departed spirit inhabits a sword that once belonged to humans. It can use the blue cloth attached to its hilt as nimbly as an arm. If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you...draining the energy from your body!

Thats the description and the name.Well not something special as a name dont you agree?And the descrition reminds me of chandelure.And it can learn Sword Dance indeed!

ilias_ July 5th, 2013 2:25 AM

I have to admit, that I find its story interesting. I judged it so quickly. It's design is unique. Come on! Gen VI has some amazing Pokemon!!! SO excited!

Sabrewulf238 July 5th, 2013 2:25 AM

I just noticed bulbapedia is calling the pokemon Honedge, has he been released on the main website?

PlatinumDude July 5th, 2013 2:25 AM

I get where the "edge" in "Honedge" comes from but what about the "Hon" part? Maybe "hone?" And a sword that actually gets Swords Dance? That's "Swords Dance" in the literal sense, huh?

Edit: @Saberwulf: Yes, it's called "Honedge" in the official X/Y site too.

Sabrewulf238 July 5th, 2013 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7724894)
I get where the "edge" in "Honedge" comes from but what about the "Hon" part? Maybe "hone?" And a sword that actually gets Swords Dance? That's "Swords Dance" in the literal sense, huh?

Edit: @Saberwulf: Yes, it's called "Honedge" in the official X/Y site too.

Yeah I was thinking Hone-edge too.

I don't think the name is that complex. Although it could come from Honor/Honour/Honourable too.

Treecko July 5th, 2013 2:57 AM

Yup it's been confirmed , it's English name is Honedge. I'm think it's name is hone+edge. Hone being to sharpen something with a whitestone, usually metal and usually a blade like a sword. And edge meaing the edge of the sword. I like it. It sounds pretty cool.
And here's some high-res art.



And it knows Swords Dance...
http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/july_sword_2.jpg

A sword Pokemon using Swords Dance is hilarious. XD

Haza July 5th, 2013 3:03 AM

I hate everything about this one... and I can see it being OU to the fullest already...

Pokemon_Hero July 5th, 2013 3:05 AM

Since when The official site updates at 6:00 AM? :/

WishCookie July 5th, 2013 3:38 AM

Well the video on Pokemon's youtube channel showed us at least how it looks like without the ''case'' on.

Powerserge July 5th, 2013 3:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7724886)
Honedge comes into being when a departed spirit inhabits a sword that once belonged to humans. It can use the blue cloth attached to its hilt as nimbly as an arm. If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you...draining the energy from your body!

Woooow, so creepy! I love it even more! That's another thing I love about Ghost-types....you can bet they'll have some creepy lore behind them!

Isn't that so interesting though? That in the Pokemon World, humans can become Pokemon after they die!

Xander Olivieri July 5th, 2013 3:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokemon_Hero (Post 7724925)
Since when The official site updates at 6:00 AM? :/

Its 6 AM for you but it may be 8 AM for them. Most big businesses open around 6 or 7 in the morning for prep work. I don't remember where the office is but, ya, timezones.


Love Honedge already. Praying its a single stage just cause I don't think we have many left and its type and possible ability match-up make it a beast on their own. I really can't recall any single stage ghosts other than Spiritomb and Sableye. Hopin Honedge is like the new Spiritomb.

With the possibility of it having Levitate its pulling a Bronzor/zong and having only one weakness. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave it some other ability to either rid the weaknesses or capitalize on its attack stat. x_x. So much potential.

Sabrewulf238 July 5th, 2013 6:15 AM

I hope he's not the new Spiritomb mainly because Spiritomb was a pain in the ass to get a hold of during the 4th gen.

Personally I could see him evolving once, probably not twice though.

Bluerang1 July 5th, 2013 7:07 AM

I thought it was a key item at first.

I'm guessing the new ghost Pokemon trend is departed ghosts entering inanimate objects.

Keiran July 5th, 2013 7:11 AM

I like it but it just doesn't feel...ghosty in its design. I feel like a spectral hand should be wielding it or something idk. Its like if Yamask/Spiritomb/Cofagrigus were only the objects they were possessing. I still love it, though. It looked great in-game.

I cant imagine what its ability will be. Maybe since its a sword it will get a quick draw ability giving it priority on all attacks on its first turn? Or maybe a boost in defense if it doesn't attack and sheathes itself? So many possibilties for a unique ability!

Nicktaco July 5th, 2013 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SupernovaTyphlosion (Post 7723841)
Interesting design...bit on the unoriginal side but hey...I don't judge pokemon by looks

How is it one bit unoriginal

Xander Olivieri July 5th, 2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7725085)
I hope he's not the new Spiritomb mainly because Spiritomb was a pain in the ass to get a hold of during the 4th gen.

Personally I could see him evolving once, probably not twice though.

I meant in stat and usage. When Spiritomb was used he was all over.

tente2 July 5th, 2013 10:57 AM

Sometimes I am a little bemused with the fan reaction to things, haha. I'm glad so many people have taken to this Pokemon, but I honestly thought I would come to Pokecommunity and find pages upon pages of hatred for it. I don't know. I thought, in particular, the unsheathed version would draw the ire of all the new-generation haters... but I guess not? Then again, I have never been able to understand why people dislike the Vanillite or Trubbish family. Both are adorable! And we've had inanimate objects as Pokemon since Generation I, too, so you'd think people would be used to the concept by now...

I love Honedge! I'll echo what others said in that I want to use it on my team, the typing is unique to the Pokemon franchise and it looks like a marvelous Pokemon. I prefer the sheathed version. I wouldn't mind if it received further evolutions, but I do find it curious that so many people think it'll evolve. It looks like a one-stager to me. But either way, I'm happy with it.
If a Ghost/Steel-type Gym Leader faced you in a double battle, with this Pokemon and a shield-like Pokemon, that'd be neat, wouldn't it?

François July 5th, 2013 11:05 AM

I don't really have a problem with the mon's concept, because frankly you have to suspend disbelief when it comes to pokémon concepts. I'm not a huge fan of the design though, especially the whole unsheathing thing. It just looks bizarre holding its sheath, and the sword itself looks a tad basic. But I guess the unsheathing at the start of the battle could look nice?

WolfMirage July 5th, 2013 11:15 AM

i have a feeling that this poke will be another good trick room ally, i think this cause most steel typ have fairly low base speed stats and also i think it may have pretty good def stat, as its other steel brethen and if this poke can evole it may make a good evolite user

tente2 July 5th, 2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by François (Post 7725474)
I don't really have a problem with the mon's concept, because frankly you have to suspend disbelief when it comes to pokémon concepts. I'm not a huge fan of the design though, especially the whole unsheathing thing. It just looks bizarre holding its sheath, and the sword itself looks a tad basic. But I guess the unsheathing at the start of the battle could look nice?

I agree, especially with the sword looking too basic; I prefer it with its sheath on for that reason. The cinematic would add a nice dramatic touch to battles, but it do wish they would at least have thought of a better way to hold the sheath. It does look somewhat weird, like you said.

If anything, I hope the whole unsheathing thing applies only to battles. That way, when I'm looking at Honedge in my party or on Pokemon-amie, I get to see the version I find to be more aesthetically appealing.

Cameo July 5th, 2013 11:57 AM

SnowpointQuincy - Bronzor's name as it's appearance is derived from bronze mirror (bronze + mirror = Bronzor). As Bronzong is actually inspired by gong bell.
PlatinumDude - Why to create a new Ghost-type Pokémon whose possessed an armor when there's Golett and Golurk? Yeah, I know both the aforementioned Pokémon are based on Jewish religion about stone golems but unless you know it, they basicly look like armors that have been possessed.

Wasn't Monorpale changed so that the new Steel/Ghost-type Pokémon will be named Honedge? O_o

billyjoseph July 5th, 2013 12:02 PM

I quite like this pokemon... I may have it in my team.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 5th, 2013 2:53 PM

I hope that Honedge get's an evolution as it, at least the sword part, looks quite basic, I hope it becoming more elegant in design.

Munchlax11 July 5th, 2013 3:25 PM

New Pokemon Monorpale/Hitotsuki!
 
YES. I have been waiting for a ghost/steel type. I hope it's bulky because its typing is excellent defensive. Really hope the stats are good for Honedge because its typing is wonderful! Good chance it will be on my ingame team. Probably my competitive team if the stats are good. (Or its evolution)

tnfsf11 July 6th, 2013 2:57 AM

Well it looks... weird.
I don't think it will have Levitate & that's because Magnemite & its evolutions don't, but on the other hand I guess the reason they don't was to not make them immune to their weakness which is ground, so maybe he'll have Levitate, after all he's part ghost :P

Sabrewulf238 July 6th, 2013 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonygooseD (Post 7726439)
I don't think it will have Levitate & that's because Magnemite & its evolutions don't

Well I would sooner compare Honedge to the Bronzor family rather than the Magnemite family....and Bronzor/Bronzong can get levitate.

It's going to be a lot harder for them to justify Magnemite not having the ability levitate in this gen, when it'll be clear as day floating in air, bobbing about.

Xander Olivieri July 6th, 2013 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonygooseD (Post 7726439)
Well it looks... weird.
I don't think it will have Levitate & that's because Magnemite & its evolutions don't, but on the other hand I guess the reason they don't was to not make them immune to their weakness which is ground, so maybe he'll have Levitate, after all he's part ghost :P

Majority of us are pulling it from Bronzor than Magnemite. Magnemite's current abilities make just as much sense now as Levitate does as well so its not really something I see them correcting after 5 generations.

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 7726505)
Well I would sooner compare Honedge to the Bronzor family rather than the Magnemite family....and Bronzor/Bronzong can get levitate.

It's going to be a lot harder for them to justify Magnemite not having the ability levitate in this gen, when it'll be clear as day floating in air, bobbing about.

It really won't be that hard...I mean Beedrill flies in the air in all his sprites and will most likely be flying in the 3D model. It doesn't have Levitate and isn't a Flying type. Him, Volcarona, Dustox, Chandelure...There are Pokemon that can learn Fly that cannot fly, and you have Pokemon that can hover off the ground but cannot use Fly, don't have Levitate, or are not flying type. With all this in mind, Magnemite not having Levitate really isn't that big a deal.

crehym July 6th, 2013 8:21 AM

I have no idea how someone could hate these Pokemon designs, seriously.

TreeKangaroo July 6th, 2013 11:45 AM

If this thing gets levitate then it will be a competitive BEAST. Immune to poison spikes and spike(if it gets levitate) and stealth rock won't do much. Just don't give this thing crappy stats like sableye please!

Sheep July 6th, 2013 11:57 AM

This thing is definitely a little different than the kinds of designs I'm used to Pokemon having, but that isn't at all a bad thing. I think he's pretty awesome! Hoping its stats are decent.

Cerberus87 July 6th, 2013 12:38 PM

Expect this one to see a lot of hate. Unjustified hate. "OMG I hate all pogeymanz not based on animuls!!!111!1".

It's a nice Pokémon, but I would've preferred one based on an empty knight armor set, even though there's already Golurk.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 6th, 2013 3:04 PM

I hope that competitively this pokemon doesn't becoming like zen mode Darmanitan, looks good on paper but fails when used.

Blayze July 6th, 2013 3:35 PM

I'm not really liking the design on this one. When I first saw it, I thought it was an item not a Pokemon. It might be a little more appealing/believable (I use that word loosely, of course) if it had some kind of ghostly aura around it.

j_Woo July 6th, 2013 4:04 PM

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Honestly, the way that the fanbase has reacted to this Pokemon kind of sickens me a bit. The vast majority of people either started making childish genwunner comments or fanboying over it like an old cat lady would fanboy over a Harry Potter MMO. When someone says something like "I don't really like the design of this Pokemon", they would get attacked to no avail, being accused of being a genwunner and told they weren't allowed to voice their opinion on its design just because "gen one also had bad designs". Yeah, gen one had bad designs. So did 2, 3, 4, 5; gen 6 isn't any different. Why are people feeling the need to run around calling each other "untrue fans" just because they like or dislike a new Pokemon design? This happens with most new releases, but I feel like it's been insane with this one because of its obscure inspiration. We all really dropped the ball on this one as a whole.

^Me complaining about the way genwunners and newgenners have reacted to Honedge so far, read at you own risk^

As far as how my opinion on Honedge goes, I honestly don't really like the design. The typing is original, and who knows, it may have a personality in the anime or some in-game charisma that make me like it more, but when it comes to design ALONE, I don't think it's very good. I think they coulda added a bit more of something (not quite sure, so I can't fully judge) to make it seem like more than a sword that floats (I think Chandelure and Metagross are better examples of inanimate object Pokes), but that's just me

Bellum July 6th, 2013 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicktaco (Post 7725243)
How is it one bit unoriginal

The pokemon is just a haunted sword...something that has been going around in games for a while now -_- Swordcraft is an example...that game had a possessed sword as one of the enemies.

Draco Razr July 6th, 2013 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jsziede (Post 7723683)
I'd bet that it will have a good attack stat (assuming it can learn Swords Dance)

Yes it can learn Swords Dance. "If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you...draining the energy from your body!" I was thinking that soldiers were using this Pokemon to fight each other in swordfighting. Haha if Pokemon were to use this Pokemon as a sword, DigiXros!

tente2 July 6th, 2013 7:30 PM

I mentioned it on the Pokemon-amie thread, but how would Honedge eat, exactly? It's been proposed that maybe it uses its sheath somehow, but... I'm trying to imagine it, and it still seems odd. Would the food just disappear as it makes crunching sounds, or what? XD

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Originally Posted by j_Woo (Post 7727181)
Spoiler:
Honestly, the way that the fanbase has reacted to this Pokemon kind of sickens me a bit. The vast majority of people either started making childish genwunner comments or fanboying over it like an old cat lady would fanboy over a Harry Potter MMO. When someone says something like "I don't really like the design of this Pokemon", they would get attacked to no avail, being accused of being a genwunner and told they weren't allowed to voice their opinion on its design just because "gen one also had bad designs". Yeah, gen one had bad designs. So did 2, 3, 4, 5; gen 6 isn't any different. Why are people feeling the need to run around calling each other "untrue fans" just because they like or dislike a new Pokemon design? This happens with most new releases, but I feel like it's been insane with this one because of its obscure inspiration. We all really dropped the ball on this one as a whole.

^Me complaining about the way genwunners and newgenners have reacted to Honedge so far, read at you own risk^

I don't mean to contradict what you've seen on other places, but at least on this thread for the most part, people who haven't liked Honedge haven't been called out for it. c: Or where you talking about here specifically? XD

Austin1395 July 6th, 2013 7:43 PM

I was very skeptical of it at first. I kept liking it and then disliking it and that was just within a few minutes. It has kind of grown on me a bit more to the point where I've thought about possibly using it on my team, which is weird since I'm a Dark type Trainer, and I have to say, I'm liking it. Especially when it is unsheathed. As it is though, I hope it doesn't have an evolution, or a pre-evolution. I think it's fine how it is.

Mithel_Celestia July 6th, 2013 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tente2 (Post 7727485)
I mentioned it on the Pokemon-amie thread, but how would Honedge eat, exactly? It's been proposed that maybe it uses its sheath somehow, but... I'm trying to imagine it, and it still seems odd. Would the food just disappear as it makes crunching sounds, or what? XD

I don't think it will even need to eat, considering it is a ghost-type. Also, there are other Pokemon who doesn't even look like they can eat or consume anything (ex. Magnimite)


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