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Livewire July 10th, 2013 10:19 PM

July Coro-Coro: 5 New Pokemon + Xerneas & Yveltal typings + Oorotto
 
Fresh outta Serebii, we get these goodies:


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The next batch of CoroCoro information has been released and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games Pokémon X & Y. We're currently in the process of translating so keep checking back. Xerneas is Fairy-type, Yveltal is Dark/Flying. Xerneas has an ability called Fairy Aura while Yveltal has one called Dark Aura. Fairy Aura powers up Fairy-type moves while Dark Aura powers up Dark-type moves. Xerneas has a special move called Geo Control and Yveltal one called Death Wing
Pancham's evolution is called Koronda (コロンダ) and has the ability Iron Fist. It is Fighting/Dark-type. It has the move Hammer Arm and a new method of evolution
The pink bird is called Shushup (シュシュップ) and is Fairy-type. It is the Perfume Pokémon and has the ability of Healer. It knows the move Aroma Therapy
The Squids are called Maika (マーイーカ), the Rotation Pokémon, and its evolution Karamanero (カラマネロ) the Reverasl Pokémon and are Dark/Psychic-type Pokémon. Maika has a move called Turn Over which reverses stat changes. It's a Dark-type move
The puff ball is called Peroppafu ( ペロッパフ) and is also a Fairy-type. Its ability is a new one called Sweet Pale. It's the Cotton Candy Pokémon and has the new move Drain Kiss
Clauncher is exclusive to Pokémon X while Skrelp is exclusive to Pokémon Y
There's a new Gym leader, with the robot arms, called ****oron (シトロン) while the other Gym Leader is called Zakuro (ザクロ)
The professor is called Purataanu (プラターヌ)
The evil team is called Team Flair/Flare (フレア団)
CoroCoro is offering special Xerneas & Yveltal figures if you pre-order the games and send in a form


What are your thoughts? Surprised at all by Xerneas' type?

Jake♫ July 10th, 2013 10:29 PM

Xerneas being a Fairy type and Yveltal being a Dark/Flying type are not surprising in the slightest. After Fairy was revealed it was pretty much predictable that that was going to be the typings. Definitely okay with this, I really like having a Dark typed legendary, which is something we've never seen before (outside of Darkrai!).

Goronda (Pancham's evolution) look awesome. I'm pretty happy they went from spunky to completely ferocious in terms of appearance. I have no idea why, but it's cape-like thing is pretty awesome looking too =P

Maika (the baby squid) and it's evolution are totally adorable. Plus Dark/Psychic typing is really cool. Sounds like something I'd want to try out just for screwing around with the type and move combinations. Admittedly the 4x weakness to Bug kind of stinks, but Bug moves aren't totally common so that's no big deal.

Peroppafu (the puff ball) is adorable. Definitely Fairy-type looking (in my opinion). I don't think I'd ever use it, but the fact that it is a X-exclusive Pokémon while Shushup (the pink bird, also Fairy typed) is Y-exclusive kind of leads me to getting X version.

Honedge getting No Guard is awesome. I'm really expecting it to get some cool lower accuracy moves for it to abuse. Here's hoping it has the offensive stats to back it up!

REALLY liking the appearance of the two Gym Leaders. We don't know their typings yet, but aesthically they're awesome.

AND IT'S OFFICIAL: TEAM FLAIR/FLARE! Weird name, not something I would have expected. Their motivation being making money and only making money is pretty out-there too, but it's different at least.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2013 10:48 PM

Team Flair sounds like Team Rocket...though after Team Aqua,Magma, Galactic, and Plasma's plots I don't blame them as they would've been hard to top especially Galactic's.

Goronda looks awesome! So knew it'll be Dark/Fighting, also the mascots typings aren't surprising at all...
I love the name of Yvetal's sig move, Death Wing. Xerneas' sounds lame in comparison...

Team Flair sounds like Team Rocket...though after Team Aqua,Magma, Galactic, and Plasma's plots I don't blame them as they would've been hard to top especially Galactic's.

Goronda looks awesome! So knew it'll be Dark/Fighting, also the mascots typings aren't surprising at all...
I love the name of Yvetal's sig move, Death Wing. Xerneas' sounds lame in comparison...

metalhand July 10th, 2013 10:58 PM

the cotton candy pokemon have the move drain kiss
once again the leaker of pokebeach is right

Moist July 10th, 2013 11:09 PM

- X Has The Peroppafu
- Y Has Skrelp

;_;

Team Flair's uniforms are just plain ugly.

jov0006 July 10th, 2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatTornado (Post 7732427)
- X Has The Peroppafu
- Y Has Skrelp

;_;

Team Flair's uniforms are just plain ugly.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVE ****ING FLAIR, THAT'S POKÉMON FOR SWAG

Also Honedge No Guard Guillotine, I can't wait for myself shouting "VIVA LA REVOLUTION" every time I OHKO an Elite Four's Pokémon.

Also I have reason to believe we have a Rock-type gym leader (the guy had gems in his rock-like hair) and an electric or steel type gym leader.

As for the typings... I would have preferred Grass-Fairy and Flying-Dark, tbh.

Treecko July 10th, 2013 11:19 PM

I'm not the bit surprised Yveltal is a Dark/Flying and I was expecting Xerneas to be at least part Fairy. Pure Fairy was a bit off-guard but I'm not than okay with it. Death Wing sounds like a really cool move! It's may be changed in the English version and I'd be happy if if isn't. Yveltal being Dark/Flying makes me sure I'm getting Y.

Goronda is freaking awesome. Who knew Pancham would have such a badass evolution! I'm so getting a Pancham on my team now! And it's Fighting/Dark! Looks like Scraggy and Scrafty have new friends.I wonder what it's new method of evolution is.

Maika and Karamanero are really cute and Dark/Psychic is a rather interesting typing. We finally have a squid Pokemon and they're really cute!

Peroppafu is so cute!!! It's based on cotton candy which is an interesting thing to base a Pokemon on. I guess the Vanillite of this generation. Kind of disappointed it's X exclusive though.

Shushup is quite interesting. Not sure what kind of bird it's based on, maybe a flamingo? It really looks like a fllamingo to me.If so, then it makes since it's Fairy. It's really cute.

I like the new professor, Purataanu, he has cool hair and looks rather young. I love that you get to battle him every now and then! Maybe you will get to battle after you get your starter as a first battle.

The new gym leaders are cool. My guess is that Shi toron (spaced to bypass filter, the only time I'm doing it. Once we get an English name, i'm using it over it's Japanese.) is an Electric type specialist cause of his weird gears in the backpack. I really him. Zakuro's cool too, but his hair is odd. What's the blue, yellow and red things? I really hope this guy is a Dark type gym leader cause he really give a Dark vibe not cause of his skin color.

Team Flare. Interesting names for a villainous team.Too bad it doesn't complete the GRAMPS theory. Interesting outfits too, dig the suits. Their goal is to make money? That's rather simple but out there.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2013 11:23 PM

I also wanted Xerneas to be Grass/Fairy, oh well.

I think the other gym leader is a fighting gym leader as they say he's athletic, of course that could just be a hobby like Crasher Wake from Sinnoh likes fighting, and how Brawly of Hoenn like surfing and they aren't fighting and water respectively...but the reverse lol.

Honedge has Guillotine? If that is to be true that be the most hax thing in awhile...

SnowpointQuincy July 10th, 2013 11:23 PM

Pancham's evo has a Badass Longcoat Trope. Not a cape. Love it.

Cotton Candy, and Ice Cream Pokemon - NOT a coincidence. Theme Team.

Mario's Birdo is a pokemon now.

The "Rotation Pokemon" That Squid might be the rumored "turn over evolution" Dark/Psychic will be different.

Clauncher is exclusive to X, so Y is going to sell zero copies.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2013 11:28 PM

Lol I'm still buying Y.
It does sound like the rumor...with the gyroscope being rotation and the turning upside down the reversal piece...we always keep on coming back to these rumors xD.

SnowpointQuincy July 10th, 2013 11:34 PM

Say what you will about a "cotton candy" pokemon being stupid, I still hate Jumpluff more. (not that anyone has hated on cottonee version 2 yet.)

I bet the American localization team is kicking themselves for not saving the name Cottonee for the Cotton Candy Pokemon!!!! XD

Jake♫ July 10th, 2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 7732445)
I believe Team Rocket had similar motives, if I'm correct? If not, then getting rich was at least part of the focus.

Similar, definitely. Team Rocket's focus though was definitely the use of Pokémon, stealing, and selling them to make their money. From what we know now Team Flare (I'm sticking with this spelling, it just looks so much better =P) just wants to make money. Maybe not enough has been revealed yet, but the lack of Pokémon or their usage in their scheme is a pretty big difference. Of course, it's assumed Pokémon will be used somehow, but from the current information they aren't the tool and the currency to do so.

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7732443)
The "Rotation Pokemon" That Squid might be the rumored "turn over evolution" Dark/Psychic will be different.

I'd kind of like to see that rumor come true. With Maika and it's evolution it does look like that might be possibile, so who knows!

MarinoKadame July 10th, 2013 11:36 PM

Too bad Juniper is still alone as a female prof for the main serie.

Treecko July 10th, 2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7732443)
Clauncher is exclusive to X, so Y is going to sell zero copies.

I'm still getting Y despite Clauncher being X exclusive. I don't care enough for it, for it to be a big deal and I can always get X too later on and trade one over or ask someone with X to trade me one. So it's not a big deal really.

bobandbill July 10th, 2013 11:41 PM

I'm alright with these new Pokemon, although I think I generally preferred others that were revealed before... for the time being, anyway. Pancham's evolution is pretty cool though - a giant angry panda should be fun to use. =p

The new team.... well, they like red. =p A money based team is rather vague in that how they want to achieve that goal can be done in so many ways. Wonder how it links into Pokemon, and if it links at all to the legendary Pokemon? Maybe they think fairy Pokemon grant monetary wishes

PlatinumDude July 10th, 2013 11:42 PM

I saw Dark/Flying as Yveltal's type coming, like 5 months ago. Yveltal's signature move (Death Wing) sounds cool, but I have a feeling it'll be toned down to something else in the English version, like Dark Wing or Night Wing.

I was surprised when I learned that Xerneas was a pure Fairy; it doesn't even look the part, other than its antlers.

Regarding the 5 new Pokemon, I like Koronda the best out of them. I also can't help but wonder why the squids aren't Water type.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2013 11:43 PM

@ AW Great that makes 2 of us ^_^.

I think the evil team may simply be common thieves, well at first. They may develop into a more Rocketesk sort of plot, selling Pokémon as they learn it's profitable. Sort of how Magma Aqua, and Galactic (and Plasma in B2W2...where that's what they are practically)when you first meet them seem to look like common thieves. Maybe they could be based on an evil corperation? Pokémon did Peta in BW, why not Monsanto for XY?

MarinoKadame July 10th, 2013 11:47 PM

Too bad Pancham evo just look like the two other bear evo but in panda version, would prefered something a bit different.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/4/40/614Beartic.png/210px-614Beartic.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/e9/217Ursaring.png/150px-217Ursaring.png

Cerberus87 July 10th, 2013 11:51 PM

Seems the first version gets the better Pokémon once again... BW was the exception, but I got Black because of Reshiram and the non-Unova exclusives (Weedle, Shroomish, Murkrow, Houndour).

Yveltal's typing is nice but Dark/Flying is a boring combination, there are already two fully evolved Pokémon with such combination (Honchkrow and Mandibuzz) and one Dark-type legendary (Darkrai), while Xerneas is, for now, the only Fairy-type legendary, most probably created because of all the Dragon-type ubers. Would be awesome if Xerneas was Steel/Fairy, though, because, if Fairy resists Dragon, then it would be perfect to wall Dragon-type attacks.

Yveltal's Death Wing move will probably be renamed owing to the dumbing-down the American market requires. Anyway, names don't mean a move is going to be good! Giratina's Shadow Force is a great example.

The panda and the squid (especially the squid! looks like a wizard) look cool. Dark/Psychic is a bad defensive type (no resistances apart from Psychic immunity) but is a reasonably good offensive type, because Dark and Psychic coverage isn't redundant. The panda should be a bulkier, slower version of Scrafty, with different moves. Overlooked fact: the squid learns Hypnosis.

The only use for the candy cotton Pokémon is, obviously, box fodder.

Aquacorde July 10th, 2013 11:54 PM

Xerneas' typing comes as no surprise to me, considering his apparent namesake and other things I've read with similar characters. Fairies are badass yo.

Team Flare? Team Flair? I'd like Team Flair, but I wouldn't mind a stylin' group with fire. It'd be more fun to have fire and fairies though. Then again if fairies have a 1/2 effectiveness on themselves, that would probably put people off of using them in game. So idk.

Shushup is apparently a plague doctor Pokémon according to tumblr and holy hell that'd be cool. [link; beware of foul language]
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IT IS A FLUFFY, PINK, FAIRY-TYPE PLAGUE DOCTOR BIRD.

EVIDENCE, YOU ASK?

IT IS THE PERFUME POKEMON. DOCTORS KEPT FLOWERS IN THEIR MASK BECAUSE PERFUME WAS SAID TO WARD OFF THE PLAGUE.

IN ITS MOVESET IS AROMATHERAPY. ITS ABILITY IS HEALER.

AND LOOK AT ITS ADORABLE MOTHER****ING FACE. IF THAT DOESN’T SCREAM PLAGUE DOCTOR I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
My main focus was on the professor though haha. He's a cutie. Pretty young, too. Bulba gave his name as Plantae, so I looked that up and found some related European cultural history. I wonder if he's going to have a focus on medicine, considering that?

Jake♫ July 10th, 2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7732462)
Too bad Juniper is still alone as a female prof for the main serie.

Yeah, I kind of would have preferred to have another female professor, but I do like the appearance of the one we were given. Kind of seems like an age somewhere between Elm and Rowan, so not inexperience like Elm seemed to be, but not as knowledgeable as Rowan was. Maybe a more middle-of-the-road professor who has the knowledge to help you when you need it, but is learning along with you as well?

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Originally Posted by MarinoKadame (Post 7732483)
Too bad Pancham evo just look like the two other bear evo but in panda version, would prefered something a bit different.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/4/40/614Beartic.png/210px-614Beartic.pnghttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/e/e9/217Ursaring.png/150px-217Ursaring.png

It's kind of hard to do a bipedal bear to look ferocious and not look similar =P At least it has some distinction from the two (mainly it's cape/trenchcoat sort of thing).

Iceshadow3317 July 10th, 2013 11:58 PM

Can someone explain something to me? According to what I read on Serebi both Shushup and Peroppafu are evos of Yamchan. Is this correct? It seems way off. (This is what it says in the new pokemon list)

Goronda looks pretty awesome which is also a evo of Yamchan, obviously. I also like the new squids and Peroppafu.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 10th, 2013 11:58 PM

I'm glad we finally have a Dark/Psychic. It doesn't have much weaknesses, with the only one I can think of being a 4x weakness against Bug. Making Fortress,Steel Wormadam, Genesect, and Scizor it's ultimate counters.

Kyrul July 11th, 2013 12:06 AM

Dude that one pokemon looks like freaking cotton candy! I'm so snatching that up.

Gen 6 is looking good so far. I'm so excited. EEEEEEK! (That was a fan girl screech)

Jake♫ July 11th, 2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7732498)
Can someone explain something to me? According to what I read on Serebi both Shushup and Peroppafu are evos of Yamchan. Is this correct? It seems way off. (This is what it says in the new pokemon list)

Goronda looks pretty awesome which is also a evo of Yamchan, obviously.

Only Goronda is an evolution of Yancham. The other two are new Fairy type Pokémon that were revealed.

Iceshadow3317 July 11th, 2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 7732511)
Only Goronda is an evolution of Yancham. The other two are new Fairy type Pokémon that were revealed.

That is what I thought. I don't understand why Serebii has them listed as Yancham evos.

SkyRyder July 11th, 2013 12:13 AM

My thoughts on this delicious, nutritious slice of news:

-<insert obvious and repetitive statement about the legendary typing> No, but really, pretty awesome. Also, has anyone noticed their ability can potentially make them dangerous? It pretty much gives their STAB moves an extra boost, making it the equivalent(I think) of having Adaptability. Although, according to the statement of these abilities, they power up those moves, but not exclusively to Xerneas/Yveltal(???)

- I'm diggin' that evolution of Pancham a lot. Another Dark/Fighting type, and with Iron Fist too. Honedge with No Guard could potentially make it a deadly Pokemon to be put up against. 100% accurate Hypnosis would be as annoying as Spore Breloom. Without levitate though, it has that ground-type weakness which isn't too bad to handle if you have something good to switch out to.

- The Dark/Psychic type squid is unique. The typing is interesting, although U-Turn pretty much kills it, and it even gets Contrary! Hopefully not as a DW ability, so it can be the first Pokemon ever to have it naturally. Turn Over is interesting when combined with Contrary and other attacks. Overall, neat Pokemon to use competitively, not sure if I will give it a spot on my team when I'm playing through the main game.

- Lots of fairy-types! Those two new ones they showed look pretty okay. I'm assuming their evolution lines will contain two/three Pokemon.

- New team = Sophisticated. All I can really say at this moment. Who knows why they are solely in it for the money, besides the usual "taking over the world, binky boy" type of ordeal. Maybe some sort of device or scheme to do something crazy.

So it seems like most of the gaps from previous speculations have been filled, like the legendary typings. The only thing I'm truly concerned about now, after seven months, is the starter types potential evolution line! Here's to hoping for August CoroCoro? (Edit: Well, I think CoroCoro leaks 'till the 15th, so not all hope is lost atm)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 12:14 AM

The cotton candy Pokémon is my least favorite of this generation, don't hate it but it's weirder looking than Vanillite imo.

Mithel_Celestia July 11th, 2013 12:17 AM

Team Flair, I like the name, hate the outfit, tbh. Maybe they'd have a do over on their outfits just like Team Plasma did, but only time can tell. Clearly they use Fire-types. Hopefully their admins are cooler (if they have admins, unlike Team Plasma)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 12:26 AM

I'm hoping they have smart grunts, if there must be a grunt that's dumb make it one that reappears multiple times.

I see the evil team using electric types too...must be the orange jumpsuit colored suits...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 12:47 AM

If their name is really Flare as in fire (rather than Flair) then I them using fire types like Magma did, along with the generic Dark and poison Pokémon. However I would like to see them using types such as electric types which are usually used by the scientists of the group.

Zorogami July 11th, 2013 12:59 AM

Really excited about the news!
Pancham's evolution looks fierce and awesome, definitely going to be on my team
I wonder though what the new method of evolution will be?

Not really surprised at the legendaries types, although a 2nd type for Xerneas would
have been nice. Their abilities are ok i guess, dont seem to original though.

The pink bird is super cute! Like him more than the cotton candy, although that Sweet
Pale ability sounds pretty awesome. Shushup being exclusive to Y makes me get that game,
on the other hand, Clauncher is exclusive to X, so I'm in a pickle for now...

Those Squids look kinda weird to me, but their typing is definitely great!
Something new to experiment with, I'll definitely try them out
Plus, Contary is always an interesting ability to combine with certain attacks

The Gym leaders look cool as well, i wonder what their types could be?
And Team Flare might have "simple" goals, but i dont mind as long as they
have personalities and make for a good battle :D

FrozenInfernoZX July 11th, 2013 1:47 AM

I just find it odd that Xerneas is singled typed... and Yveltal is dueled typed. The abilities are a huge letdown... sigh, why not come up with something "new." There is some wasted potential with the legends... but I'll be getting X version, cause Xerneas rocks like Dialga.

Kotowari July 11th, 2013 2:09 AM

Man,I really like the artwork of the starters in this image: http://serebii.net/corocoro7136.jpg
My favourite is still Fennekin, but it makes Chespin and Froakie look much better than their initial artwork. I really can't wait for more information on their evolutions.

Xerneas is fairy type, huh? In se not something to be surprised about. When they revealed the new type, it was only natural that at least one of the legendaries would have it as its primary type. Might have been nice if Xerneas was double type (grass or steel?), like Yveltal is. Yveltal's typing is cool.

Another thing that's cool is Goronda. I usually don't have much with the fighting types, but this one looks great. 8D I can see it being a very protective parent of its cubs. |D

At first I was kind "what in heaven's name is that?" about the Squid. It looked a bit like a combination of a bird and something undefinable. But now that I've had a better look at it, it actually looks quite nice. Cephalopods actually have beaks like that, +1 for accuracy. The only thing I'm not 1000% happy with are the "feet". I think it would have looked better if they didn't fold like feed (I can't imagine it being easy to walk with), but instead dangled vertically like the structures on it's cape. It's Pre-evolution is kinda cute.

I like Honedge. :') Now I can start making a team for my Kalos-based OC

Shushupu is kind of endearing, but it's not as dorky as the cottonball Pokémon exclusive to X. I've yet to change my initial thought about getting X (thank you, Xerneas).
I do like the professor, though. He's a cutie. Yes, I can see him live in France (and be somewhat of a flirt?).

Not much to comment on regarding the new team. Flare seems to be my guess, as they look to be quite fire-themed (even the hair!)
The new gymleaders look great. The thingies in Zakuro's hair remind me somewhat of the gems in Xerneas' antlers. Maybe it's going to mean something?

All by all a nice update. I'm still excited about X/Y. This generation looks promising.

blue July 11th, 2013 3:27 AM

Too much to wake up to! LOL. Just been looking through the scans and I see no disappointments! These new Pokemon look cool.

Also "The teaser for next month's CoroCoro issue, due for release on August 12th 2013, is said that the magazine will contain the biggest scoop of the century. We'll provide details on that next month" Judging by that we're in for a heck of a scoop next month then.

Oh, and Maika & Karamanero are the first Psychic/Dark Pokémon, interestingg.

Zorogami July 11th, 2013 4:05 AM

So i just saw this at Serebii:

The professor is called Purataanu (プラターヌ possibly romanised into Platane). He will occasionally battle you.

Which in my opinion is a pretty awesome feature!
Finally a Professor who also battles :D reminds me of the cancelled Oak fight in the original games

blue July 11th, 2013 4:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorogami (Post 7732639)
So i just saw this at Serebii:

The professor is called Purataanu (プラターヌ possibly romanised into Platane). He will occasionally battle you.

Which in my opinion is a pretty awesome feature!
Finally a Professor who also battles :D reminds me of the cancelled Oak fight in the original games

Yes! I saw this too, I'm happy that the Professor will actually battle you.

Ęℓαчиıı July 11th, 2013 4:15 AM

dat professor.
dis professor.

MY FANGIRL MODE HAS BEEN ACTIVATED.
I have loved this entire update thus far. Death Wing and Geo Control sound like wicked awesome moves, too. ;;

This Professor is my new favorite thing.
I wonder what his English name will be?

Sabrewulf238 July 11th, 2013 4:16 AM

Malimar (final squid form) is absolutely glorious. I love it's design.

It makes me think of an evil magician, one of the more sinister looking pokemon I've seen.

The gems in Zakuro's hair made me think of Sableye.

tnfsf11 July 11th, 2013 4:54 AM

Xerneas' typing did surprise me a bit, being Fairy isn't that weird but pure Fairy? C'mon GF... At least make it Steel/Fairy or Grass/Fairy so that it seems legit! I expected only the 3rd legendary to be of a pure typing not the first one.

The cotton candy poke looks cute & edible, I hope I can eat it in Amie, I like it better than Vanillite tbh, I see it being pure Fairy or Fairy/Candy.
The pink bird sure looks like a mini Flamingo, I would love to see it evolve into one & become part flying, even though I'm not sure if Flamingos do fly irl :P.
Koronda... What can I say? FREAKIN' EPIC. also I wouldn't compare it to Beartic or Ursaring, since Koronda is the first dual-typed bear who doesn't evolve by level up. And I'm happy to see the bear combo complete! (a white bear of the Antarctic + a brown bear + a Panda)
The squids look wicked, Dark/Psychic is a good combination, & it finally gives a value for Bug types which are rarely used (by me at least).

I'm not even mad about the version exclusive pokes since you can trade easily via Wi-Fi & don't have to suffer like in gen 3 games & before. Besides I would choose Skrelp anyway.
Unlike many ppl here I like the looks of the team, also the gym leaders look cool, I just hope Team Flare isn't as limited in use of pokes as Team Magma, & isn't as stupid too.
All the pokes of this gen so far has some kind of a common feel to them... Futuristic perhaps? All I can say is that it's gonna be one weird gen that's for sure!

SnowpointQuincy July 11th, 2013 5:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7732474)
I saw Dark/Flying as Yveltal's type coming, like 5 months ago. Yveltal's signature move (Death Wing) sounds cool, but I have a feeling it'll be toned down to something else in the English version, like Dark Wing or Night Wing.

I was surprised when I learned that Xerneas was a pure Fairy; it doesn't even look the part, other than its antlers.

Regarding the 5 new Pokemon, I like Koronda the best out of them. I also can't help but wonder why the squids aren't Water type.

Water Type is far in the lead of pokemon numbers. So, more aquatic pokemon are going to have other typing when they can.

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Originally Posted by EternallyAnna (Post 7732492)
Xerneas' typing comes as no surprise to me, considering his apparent namesake and other things I've read with similar characters. Fairies are badass yo.

Team Flare? Team Flair? I'd like Team Flair, but I wouldn't mind a stylin' group with fire. It'd be more fun to have fire and fairies though. Then again if fairies have a 1/2 effectiveness on themselves, that would probably put people off of using them in game. So idk.

Shushup is apparently a plague doctor Pokémon according to tumblr and holy hell that'd be cool. [link; beware of foul language]


My main focus was on the professor though haha. He's a cutie. Pretty young, too. Bulba gave his name as Plantae, so I looked that up and found some related European cultural history. I wonder if he's going to have a focus on medicine, considering that?

So, this young Proff. Might be a pokemon doctor or study pokemon medicine. Very young!

Bluerang1 July 11th, 2013 5:49 AM

Like someone said, the Cotton Candy Pokemon is a food Pokemon done right. Take tips Ice ream family.

Also the black Gym leader is rock climbing/excavating so should be Ground or Rock. If that's his badge we see, the pattern is bricks.

I thought the other one would be Steel, or also maybe Rock because those things look like Shuckle and Solrock, rock types.

Nevermind, Citron= Eiffel Tower Electric Type Gym Leader. Yet another blonde Electric Type Gym Leader. I wonder who the girl next to him in the Gym is.

Zakuro = Ground (or Rock really, I'm torn) type. They're gemstones in his hair.

blue July 11th, 2013 6:20 AM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7732731)
The rumors from Pokebeach mentioned a Prof. Sycamore. I think that would be the English name.

The squids (and their types) are awesome. Really like the concept of an upside down squid.
Now I can imagine the Pokebeach rumors coming true, there was speculation about squid Pokemon called Inkay and Malimar, and appearently you have to turn your 3DS upside down while leveling up to evolve the small squid.

Also, this:


:P

Well it certainly does fit the description of the rumor of this Pokémon being Inkay, the Gyroscope would be able to detect the movement and it seems pretty straight forward. Now that this is looking to be true, I wonder if he was right about the other rumors... Dual-typed moves.

JP July 11th, 2013 6:49 AM

The panda's evolution is probably my favorite design so far in terms of regular Pokemon, sweet badass trenchcoat looking thing. Definitely getting myself one of those!

The legendary typings aren't surprising for sure, though I would have imagined Xerneas getting a secondary typing... Its been a while since we had a mascot legendary with a mono typing. Yvetal is probably going to be my pick at this point though. Just can't deny its awesome typing and design.

Excited for all this news. I've been curious to these Fairy Pokemon though... Why have we only heard of mono Fairy types? Are they keeping combinations for future games or just being secretive about it...hmm.

Guy July 11th, 2013 6:52 AM

Goronda looks BEAST while Perropafu and Shushup are both SOOOOOOOO cute!!

This generation has definitely taken to a much more natural style when it comes to the designs of the new Pokémon and it's really paying off. Compared to Gen V and the more man-made looking Pokémon, this generation is coming up with new designs that are far more superior in my opinion. Take Perropafu for example, it's the cotton candy Pokémon but it doesn't look nearly as awkward as Vanillite did.

On the contrary, I'm hoping Team Flare gets a name change for the English copies. I'm not really a fan of their name or their design. However, it is a nice change of pace to see GameFreak take a much simpler route in its plot if their purpose in the games really is to solely make money. We haven't had a plot like that since Team Rocket.

Not very surprised by Yveltal's typing, but I was expecting Xerneas to be at least Fairy/Grass not just Fairy. Not something to be really disappointed in though. I'm just glad we finally know their typing.

Also, yaaay for expecting something huge next month!

JP July 11th, 2013 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7732743)
I was raging when I saw that rumor, but it could actually be different from what most people are expecting. Maybe dual-type moves are moves that don't have 2 types at the same time, but rather change their type during certain circumstances.

I get the feeling that these dual-typed moves will be more along the idea that they're classified as one type but do super-effective damage of another type.

So for example, say you've got an Electric type move, your Electric-type Pokemon will get STAB from it but it'll do Water damage instead of Electric damage. That's my vision of what these dual-type moves will be. Would be an interesting twist if you ask me, if not get a bit confusing though.

But who knows, maybe they'll be more along the lines of Scald, or actually do dual-type damage.

blue July 11th, 2013 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7732743)
I was raging when I saw that rumor, but it could actually be different from what most people are expecting. Maybe dual-type moves are moves that don't have 2 types at the same time, but rather change their type during certain circumstances.

It won't be all of them, I think it will just be a certain handful such as Steel Wing, Muddy Water etc.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 7:18 AM

It seems we fans who mentioned a Life and Death theme for the mascots were correct as Xerneas is the Life Pokémon, and Yvetal is the destruction Pokémon (aka death, just look at it's signature move DEATH wing).

JP July 11th, 2013 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7732777)
It seems we fans who mentioned a Life and Death theme for the mascots were correct as Xerneas is the Life Pokémon, and Yvetal is the destruction Pokémon (aka death, just look at it's signature move DEATH wing).

Getting ahead of myself a bit, but I wonder what this'll mean for the third member of this trio. Life, destruction (aka death...) what's followed or in the middle of those? Some sort of peace or spirituality theme? Interesting. Definitely love these concepts for the Legendaries though. Makes them the most interesting in a while if you ask me.

Oshamaru July 11th, 2013 7:44 AM

At least the cotton candy one looks a bit like a french poodle. If it was in a cone or something, some people would go "BWAHHH I WANT OLD POKEMON BACK wkncf".

Anyway, the legendary typings don't surprise me at all. It was kind of obvious. X has the new type but...I'm considering getting Y.

Like Pancham's evo. It looks really cool.
We finally have squids, and they look awesome! The evolution looks like some kind of evil magician.
The bird looks a bit weird, but I really like the candy poodle. I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves into a more dog like shape.

The gym leaders look...interesting. The guy with glasses will totally have an Electric or Stell gym, but I wonder what the other guy will have. The team...The female grunts are ugly, but the male grunts are ok. But their intentions are too Team Rocket-esque.
The professor looks even younger than Elm. Wonder what tree will be his name.

Liking everything so far! I wonder what will be revealed on August. They say it's a lot.

blue July 11th, 2013 7:46 AM

Seems like the Villainous team specialists in Fire types being Team Flare and judging by their appearance.. Interesting. Their goal to become rich with a lot of Money is a little predictable though.

Livewire July 11th, 2013 7:47 AM

I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive. :(

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.

JayTheKing July 11th, 2013 7:52 AM

Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.I can see them making a world like the Distortion World but we will have to use the 3D effect to solve the puzzles in that with ease in order to get to it.
Or we might have to use our Pokemon in the overworld(like riding one of them)to solve different puzzles(we will of course choose which because it is not sure that we will have a Pokemon that fullfills the conditions).The Legendary Pokemon might want to test the bonds we have with our Pokemon.

I love Panchams evo,definately on my team.I am getting Y for sure know because ''Skrelp''
The Evil Team doesnt interest me at all.Nifty outfits but stupid motive.I think that they will use Litleo and their Boss will use his final evo.
I am sure the mechanical armed Gym Leader will specialise on Electric(his Gym looks similar to Elesa's) while the other one on Rock(He looks like he is climbing a mountain and he has a hairstyle that resembles a mountain)

I am happy that Chespin's Final evo is most likely Dark.
The squids are awesome as well.

It is really exciting that we are getting even more news next month.Probably evos for older Pokemon.

Pinkie-Dawn July 11th, 2013 7:58 AM

The legendaries' typings were no surprise, but the fact that Xerneas is a mono type did caught us off-guard.

Pancham's evo broke the pattern of bear Pokemon being only mono types.

Finally we got a squid Pokemon, and it's the first Dark/Psychic type (thank goodness it's not a Water type)

Looks like Honedge won't be getting Levitate after all, but it does get No Guard. Since Magmaruby mentioned it may learn Guillotine, it would really make it overpowered, but thankfully, the metagame bans OHKOs.

I was expecting the Cotton Cany Pokemon to get as much hate as Vanllite, but I'm surprised you guys are happy about it.

I'm still unsure what the pink bird Pokemon is based off of.

Team Flare's goal is to make money. But I wanted a team that plans to steal Pokemon DNA and use it on themselves, due to its genetics theme, as well as completing the GRAMPS theory (not counting Team Snagem).

JP July 11th, 2013 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7732817)
Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.I can see them making a world like the Distortion World but we will have to use the 3D effect to solve the puzzles in that with ease in order to get to it.
Or we might have to use our Pokemon in the overworld(like riding one of them)to solve different puzzles(we will of course choose which because it is not sure that we will have a Pokemon that fullfills the conditions).The Legendary Pokemon might want to test the bonds we have with our Pokemon.

It is really exciting that we are getting even more news next month.Probably evos for older Pokemon.

Interesting idea, for sure! I can see something like that, though "emptiness" to me feels too much like death or even destruction. Maybe in this case, destruction =/= death, and that'll be the third theme? I can't wait to see these Legendaries in action, their moves look so cool from the screenshots!

As for the next month stuff, I think we'll most likely get second-stage evos for the starters. Next month or the one after, personal opinion though of course. Definitely would like to see an evolution or two to older Poke' too though!

JayTheKing July 11th, 2013 8:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7732825)
Interesting idea, for sure! I can see something like that, though "emptiness" to me feels too much like death or even destruction. Maybe in this case, destruction =/= death, and that'll be the third theme? I can't wait to see these Legendaries in action, their moves look so cool from the screenshots!

As for the next month stuff, I think we'll most likely get second-stage evos for the starters. Next month or the one after, personal opinion though of course. Definitely would like to see an evolution or two to older Poke' too though!

When i first saw the Legendaries' themes i remembered DeathNote. Ryuk told Light that if he used Deathnote he wouldnt go to neither Heaven nor Hell.I always wondered what that place was and i though something similar for the third Legendary.

JP July 11th, 2013 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7732842)
When i first saw the Legendaries' themes i remembered DeathNote. Ryuk told Light that if he used Deathnote he wouldnt go to neither Heaven nor Hell.I always wondered what that place was and i though something similar for the third Legendary.

In Christian themes(and perhaps others as well?), that place is generally called Purgatory. Could be somehow used as a Pokemon theme, just not sure how. ;)

Keiran July 11th, 2013 8:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7732811)
I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive. :(

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.

Well I doubt we are going to have another yin & yang trio, and given the subtle genetics theme we're having I wouldn't be suprised if they represent generation, degeneration and finally mutation- and I wonder if Mewtwo has something to do with it. Given Gamefreaks love for trios I would be even more suprised if there weren't a third.

Also, who wants to bet Gorondas name is going to be Pandamonium in one of its translations? Lol

JP July 11th, 2013 8:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7732855)
Well I doubt we are going to have another yin & yang trio, and given the subtle genetics theme we're having I wouldn't be suprised if they represent generation, degeneration and finally mutation- and I wonder if Mewtwo has something to do with it. Given Gamefreaks love for trios I would be even more suprised if there weren't a third.

Those themes make sense and Life and Destruction both relate to those, more scientific, terms in some way, so yeah I can see this being the case. But then, in a more spirituality way, how can mutation relate to the terms of life and destruction? That's the problem I see. Maybe I'm just looking too much into specifics though.

Entermaid July 11th, 2013 9:21 AM

Wow, I am in a super good mood. I have had mixed reactions with the previous new pokemon releases this year, but I have NO COMPLAINTS with these five!


Too cute! Seriously!
I am calling it now; this will evolve into a french poodle, maybe with peppermint striped (or maybe a sheepdog). I just hope this is some sort of canine species! This is by far my favorite pokemon of X and Y thus far. Please don't crush my dreams with a derpy evolution GF.

Rating: 10/10



Shushup doesn't really look like a bird to me. I sort of see a garden nome or witch/goblin/elf pokemon given the "beak" is more nose-like. I am very curious of what the evolution will look like. Pefume is known to be both healing and enticing, so I am guessing that it will be some sort of benevolent magical creature aforementioned. Either way, it is sure cute, though, I am not 100% sold. I need to wait and see the evolution.

Rating: 8.5/10


Given that I am not that interested in Clauncher or Skrelp (though I think the designs are nice), I am gonna have a hard time picking between the two fairy pokemon. I think, right now, without seeing the evolutions, I am going to give the edge to Peropaffu, Pokemon X. I hope they are like Petilil and Cottonee, in which, they can be traded in-game very early in the game, even though it defeats the points of exclusives. But I like both of them, so, I don't mind if they implement an early in-game trade!


Okay, this pokemon would not be my first choice, but I really like the addition of this pokemon, and would use it on a second or third run. It reminds me of Ursula from the Little Mermaid, sort of hideous, yet with feminine qualities, and a dash of malevolence. Though, yes, a very gimmicky pokemon, I think the stat changes with turnover makes perfect sense and a clever use of 3DS technology. Also, I wonder how the animations will look like, will they appear completely different when flipped during battle? I hope so.

My rating: 9/10


Relieved!

I thought this pokemon would look like Kung Fu Panda, but he is a complete beast. The black eyes are the best detailing and then the scruffy boxing robe design in his black fur gives the pokemon a more feral disposition, without the details I just listed, this pokemon would be a complete joke. However, this given those implements, this guy is not messing around and is sure to scare off any Beartic or Ursaring with as much as a glance.

Score: 9.5/10

Also, I am calling the third pokemon to compliment Yvelte and Xerneas, will be a ghost, to represent afterlife.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2013 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7732743)
I was raging when I saw that rumor, but it could actually be different from what most people are expecting. Maybe dual-type moves are moves that don't have 2 types at the same time, but rather change their type during certain circumstances.

Dual Typed meas two types. If it doesn't have two types, then it isn't Dual Typed.

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7732768)
I get the feeling that these dual-typed moves will be more along the idea that they're classified as one type but do super-effective damage of another type.

So for example, say you've got an Electric type move, your Electric-type Pokemon will get STAB from it but it'll do Water damage instead of Electric damage. That's my vision of what these dual-type moves will be. Would be an interesting twist if you ask me, if not get a bit confusing though.

But who knows, maybe they'll be more along the lines of Scald, or actually do dual-type damage.

STAB is calculated by damaging type not original type (Hidden Power Water only gets STAB from Water Type Pokemon not Normal Typed ones). If that were the case all Normal Type Pokemon would get STAB from Hidden Power. Coding an attack to do SE damage to something it doesn't normally do wouldn't be out of the question, but that does not fit with either version of "Dual Typed Attacks"

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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7732821)
Looks like Honedge won't be getting Levitate after all, but it does get No Guard. Since Magmaruby mentioned it may learn Guillotine, it would really make it overpowered, but thankfully, the metagame bans OHKOs.

No Guard doesn't have any effect on OHKO moves. They don't have normal accuracy checks and are based on the user's level vs opponent's level. Since it has a custom scripted accuracy No Guard doesn't effect it.
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Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7732821)
Team Flare's goal is to make money. But I wanted a team that plans to steal Pokemon DNA and use it on themselves, due to its genetics theme, as well as completing the GRAMPS theory (not counting Team Snagem).

Snagem isn't Canon to the Pokemon world. Its an off bran team made by a different company. GRAMPS is for Gamefreak official teams.

Entermaid July 11th, 2013 9:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7732811)
I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive. :(

How dare you disparage that cotton candy ball 'thing'! :p

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Originally Posted by Oshamaru (Post 7732807)
At least the cotton candy one looks a bit like a french poodle. If it was in a cone or something, some people would go "BWAHHH I WANT OLD POKEMON BACK wkncf".

I really like the candy poodle. I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves into a more dog like shape.

Wow, those were my thoughts exactly.

Livewire July 11th, 2013 9:32 AM

I prefer the bird looking one to the puff of perfume! :< I'm not one for the inanimate object themed Pokemon, haha.

JP July 11th, 2013 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7732913)
STAB is calculated by damaging type not original type (Hidden Power Water only gets STAB from Water Type Pokemon not Normal Typed ones). If that were the case all Normal Type Pokemon would get STAB from Hidden Power. Coding an attack to do SE damage to something it doesn't normally do wouldn't be out of the question, but that does not fit with either version of "Dual Typed Attacks"

Ah, never actually realized that. Good to know then. So, what versions of "Dual Typed Attacks" are you referring to? The ones I mentioned in that post or some other generally viewed idea?

Entermaid July 11th, 2013 9:42 AM

Anyone think there will be two evil teams (err even three)?

Red is a bold color. It feels like it is asking to be complemented. A team Flash, electric type, would be a great counter part. Flash and Flair could both mean gaudy and showy, (the corrupt forms of beauty.) I have an idea we may see fewer poison and dark types in the evil team(s) this generation.

SnowpointQuincy July 11th, 2013 9:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7732817)
Maybe the third legendary will symbolize emptiness.It will reside in another dimension(like Giratina)where there is no other life.

Have a Psychic / Dragon Type. That way, Xerneas and Y-mon would both be super-effective against it. The Cycle of Life and Death overcoming the void of nothingness.

JP July 11th, 2013 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SnowpointQuincy (Post 7732932)
Have a Psychic / Dragon Type. That way, Xerneas and Y-mon would both be super-effective against it. The Cycle of Life and Death overcoming the void of nothingness.

The Dragon would make perfect sense. I remember reading something about a Dragon being part of that Norse mythology, and a Psychic-Dragon type would be great as it hasn't been done yet (I think...right?)

Sabrewulf238 July 11th, 2013 9:56 AM

I was thinking Zakuro (the rock climbing gym leader) is probably situated somewhere near the mine.

Do you think those orange spots to the right side of the Kalos map is a rock climbing area?

On another note about Malimar, it's a bit annoying how it's type is Dark/Psychic since that would mean I would have to pick Froakie as my starter in order to have Malimar on my team....and Froakie is my least favourite of the three. :/

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7732811)
I'm actually pretty partial to Pancham's evolution. One of my favorite designs yet. And the first Squid is adorable. Not too high on the Squid evo/cotton ball/cotton candy thing, but that's just me. And I'll definitely want Y now because of Yveltal's typing and moves, etc. Even though X has Clauncher as a version exclusive. :(

And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.

There can be a third as there's a hindi gods that is said to have three forms, one of Creation, one of Destruction, and one of harmony. While they may not be based on Hinduism they could still incorporate some aspects into them. The third member could be harmony, keeping the balance between the two, which is practically what Rayquaza, and Giratina did during their third versions.

blue July 11th, 2013 10:51 AM

Favourite of these five is definitely Karamanero (The Evolved Squid Pokémon) It's design is really great IMO and the fact that it's the first Psychic/Dark type Pokémon is brilliant, I'll definitely be using this one on my team. I've kinda structured a team from the Pokemon revealed so far and since these five, it's become even more difficult because there's already so many I like and we've only seen about a fifth of the whole Pokédex for Kalos!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 10:55 AM

May be getting ahead of myself here but according to Serebii the next Corocoro" due for release on August 12th 2013, is said that the magazine will contain the biggest scoop of the century. We'll provide details on that next month." Wonder if that is Pokémon related, if so wonder what it'll be...also I love that we're getting another early issue next month...wonder if it's another holiday pushing it forward...

Esper July 11th, 2013 11:15 AM

Got some weird looking gym leaders this time around. I like 'em. What are they then, Electric and... Rock? Ground? I'm guessing Rock since the name "Zakuro" is written with these kanji: 石榴. The first one by itself is "ishi": "stone".

I'm also diggin the new Team Evil. They've got style.

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7732811)
And I actually don't think there will be a third one tied to the two of them. Creation & destruction is obviously very dual in nature, one springs from the other. Yin & Yang. Not much room for a third principle there.

If you've got a destroying legendary and a creating legendary then the third will be a preserving legendary. It's like in Hinduism: Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer.

Livewire July 11th, 2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarf (Post 7733040)
Got some weird looking gym leaders this time around. I like 'em. What are they then, Electric and... Rock? Ground? I'm guessing Rock since the name "Zakuro" is written with these kanji: 石榴. The first one by itself is "ishi": "stone".

I'm also diggin the new Team Evil. They've got style.


If you've got a destroying legendary and a creating legendary then the third will be a preserving legendary. It's like in Hinduism: Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer.

Then would Xerneas be the creator or the preserver, I wonder? The final one could be a preserver I guess, if Xerneas is indeed the creator. Could go either way though.

doesnt matter Yveltal is the best

JP July 11th, 2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Livewire (Post 7733058)
Then would Xerneas be the creator or the preserver, I wonder? The final one could be a preserver I guess, if Xerneas is indeed the creator. Could go either way though.

doesnt matter Yveltal is the best

Since it's the "Life Pokemon", I would imagine it's the creator. :P Though, I suppose Preserver would also make sense.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 12:11 PM

Yeah Life could go both ways, if Life in this context means living than the third maybe birth...but I think Life in this context is birth as it'll fit better with the duality of being born/created, and dying.

Eruption July 11th, 2013 12:31 PM

I'd say the new pokémon are a bit of a mixed bag, similar to all the previous reveals really. Some good, some bad, none spectacular though.

The new professor is pretty cool, probably my favourite professor design since Oak really.

Do we know what the Raichu and Gengar bits are about?

Latios Master July 11th, 2013 12:56 PM

I'm not a fan of any of the new Pokémon revealed in this month's issue. The rest of the reveals, like the new team and professor, are just ok. I'm wondering what the "biggest scoop of the century" will be. Since B2/W2 I've been a little worried that fusion could become a much bigger part of Pokémon in gen 6, and that's something I don't want. Hopefully that won't be it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 1:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Latios Master (Post 7733162)
I'm not a fan of any of the new Pokémon revealed in this month's issue. The rest of the reveals, like the new team and professor, are just ok. I'm wondering what the "biggest scoop of the century" will be. Since B2/W2 I've been a little worried that fusion could become a much bigger part of Pokémon in gen 6, and that's something I don't want. Hopefully that won't be it.

On my way to this thread that very idea came to me...it'll truly be ground breaking...plus it'll explain the helix on the logos...

SnowpointQuincy July 11th, 2013 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Latios Master (Post 7733162)
I'm not a fan of any of the new Pokémon revealed in this month's issue. The rest of the reveals, like the new team and professor, are just ok. I'm wondering what the "biggest scoop of the century" will be. Since B2/W2 I've been a little worried that fusion could become a much bigger part of Pokémon in gen 6, and that's something I don't want. Hopefully that won't be it.


"biggest scoop of the century" might not be about Pokemon at all. Just saying. Could be movie stuff. Could be new Type-Effectiveness Chart.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 1:11 PM

Those ideas have come up in the rumor thread, we really don't know enough to guess...if it is really Pokémon related it may be the biggest surprise of the generation...or in the whole series, or confirm one of the rumors we have.

As for the Pikachu and Haunter with the evolution pieces, I think it's talking about evolution methods, someone in Pokebeach forums mentioned a new evolution method though no site has anything on it...

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2013 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by reshilegend (Post 7733207)
Well I didn't say that wouldn't be the case, I only said that in my opinion, it would make more sense for a dual-typed move to change the type instead of having both at the same time.
:)
It's still called "dual-typed" since it has access to both types.

2 types at the same time would be ridiculous. 8x SE damage? No thanks. Imagine how complicated everything would become. Seems unlikely imo.
Also the term "dual-type" could be a rough translation and we don't know exactly what that means so I guess we should wait and see what happens to that rumor.


The "Dual" Types means 2 types. That doesn't mean the attack is one type while the damage is another. If that were the case then Dual Type attacks have existed since Gen 2. Which is not the case. Pokemon are Dual Typed. They have two types associated with them. The term is already laid out for us, so calling an attack Dual Typed means the attack is 2 types.

Being one type and damaging another does not give access to two types either. The type that deals the Damage is the only one that counts as far as calculations are concerned. Resistance, Immunity, Super Effectiveness, STAB are all based on the damage type.

As far as translation goes, the guy was supposedly giving out english names so that was supposed to be the translated version. No mistakes were made according to info. Which was already proven wrong with his "Panchum" explanation.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 11th, 2013 4:15 PM

He proably over exaggerated his own accuracy by saying it was all perfect if his other rumors do come true in the end, we won't know until the games come out if he was mostly right.

Now onto the issue, I really enjoy the look of the signature moves of both mascots, they look very beautiful. I wonder if we'll see any more legends soon or if GF will allow us to discover them on our own. At this point in BW we already got one of the musketeers, though that may have been due to leak rather than corocoro...

Hikamaru July 11th, 2013 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7733427)
He proably over exaggerated his own accuracy by saying it was all perfect if his other rumors do come true in the end, we won't know until the games come out if he was mostly right.

Now onto the issue, I really enjoy the look of the signature moves of both mascots, they look very beautiful. I wonder if we'll see any more legends soon or if GF will allow us to discover them on our own. At this point in BW we already got one of the musketeers, though that may have been due to leak rather than corocoro...

I have to say, the types of Xerneas and Yveltal were obvious enough right before this reveal, in fact Dark/Flying was my first choice for Yveltal's type. Xerneas being pure-Fairy was something surprising but Fairy is what comes close to what we wanted for a "light" type so no surprise there. The signature moves also look really awesome, I do love Xerneas' one though. Maybe I'll still get both versions but X might be my main given Xerneas but who knows I might play both.

The Pancham evolution looks a bit too much like Beartic imo but that may be just me. Nice to see another Pokemon with that awesome Dark/Fighting type, it has little weaknesses and Hammer Arm seems like a good move for it.

The squid thingies are really interesting because little Maika is like normal, but its evo (sorry I have trouble spelling its name lol) is actually upside down, which fits the concept of their origin I guess. At least we finally have a Pokemon that gets Contrary as a natural ability, and that Dark/Psychic type gives it a single weakness to Bug, albeit a quadruple weakness. Don't know how well it will fare in competitive with all those U-turn users running rampant.

And the two new Fairy-types are so adorable! I like the cotton candy thing slightly more, could be like Vanillite in some way.

Therizinosaurus July 11th, 2013 6:06 PM

yea im excited too.

Also, I hated pancham, but I cant help but loving Koronda. it looks so amazing. so going to catch a pancham now

Oshamaru July 11th, 2013 6:40 PM

The truth about Shushup...


kevcrash July 11th, 2013 6:40 PM

i loved Vanilluxe because I though it was interesting. This Cotton Candy Pokemon is just pushing it in my opinion. The others are pretty alright though, and I do like Pancham's new evolution!

Entermaid July 11th, 2013 7:34 PM

Vanilluxe was only an ice cream cone pokemon, but this one resembles an actual animal, whose to say if there exists a fictional animal out of steel or one made out of a plush cotton. The issue with vanilluxe was that it did not resemble any sort of biological creature, it was literally an ice cream cone with eyes. This one appears to be a puppy with a cotton candy coat.

Oshamaru July 11th, 2013 7:38 PM

^You basically said what I think about the Pokémon. I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves into a more dog-like shape.

Pinkie-Dawn July 11th, 2013 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7733615)
Vanilluxe was only an ice cream cone pokemon, but this one resembles an actual animal, whose to say if there exists a fictional animal out of steel or one made out of a plush cotton. The issue with vanilluxe was that it did not resemble any sort of biological creature, it was literally an ice cream cone with eyes. This one appears to be a puppy with a cotton candy coat.

Technically, it was really an ice shard covered in snow on top that made it resemble something like ice cream. It was also created by the president of Game Freak of Europe, so you should give the man a bit of respect for having his own fakemon added as an official Pokemon.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2013 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7733629)
Technically, it was really an ice shard covered in snow on top that made it resemble something like ice cream. It was also created by the president of Game Freak of Europe, so you should give the man a bit of respect for having his own fakemon added as an official Pokemon.

James Turner is a British Graphic Designer that recently joined Gamefreak (5th Gen)...He designed Vanilite's line, Vullaby's line, and Golett's line. Don't see anywhere that says he's the president of the Britain Branch.

Can't find that a Britain Branch exists...Info I find says Gamefreak is only located in Japan.

Pinkie-Dawn July 11th, 2013 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7733650)
James Turner is a British Graphic Designer that recently joined Gamefreak (5th Gen)...He designed Vanilite's line, Vullaby's line, and Golett's line. Don't see anywhere that says he's the president of the Britain Branch.

I was trying to remember what James Turner is known for based on memory from Bulbapedia's trivia page of Vanilluxe.

Xander Olivieri July 11th, 2013 8:53 PM

Oh...just noticed something. Citron's gym has the green grid background that looks similar to that one "Magical" Gym back from the very beginning.

The rooms look a bit different, but similar to a point that I can't really tell if it may be the same Gym or not.

Citron's definitely has a Digital look so it could go either way with Steel or Electric.

XeroNos July 11th, 2013 10:45 PM

Guys I was very disappointed to learn that Xerneus is a fairy type as well as it has only one type

Perriechu July 11th, 2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alienhunterx (Post 7733734)
Guys I was very disappointed to learn that Xerneus is a fairy type as well as it has only one type

I was quite disappointed, too. It could have easily been Fairy/Ground or Fairy/Normal, it could have even been Fairy/Grass considering it seems to live in a forest.

I was also kinda disappointed by Yveltal's typing, too, I was expecting ___/Flying but I wanted something else tbh. Dark/Flying is quite boring for a legend.

Jake♫ July 11th, 2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7733664)
Oh...just noticed something. Citron's gym has the green grid background that looks similar to that one "Magical" Gym back from the very beginning.

The rooms look a bit different, but similar to a point that I can't really tell if it may be the same Gym or not.

Citron's definitely has a Digital look so it could go either way with Steel or Electric.

Although I'm personally hoping for Steel, it definitely could go either way. They could go from the electricity end of the machinery and make it go for an Electric leader, or just focus specifically on the technology itself and not what's running it and go from the Steel angle. The Steel Gym Leaders we have had have kind of just been glorified Rock type trainers, not really focusing on the usage of Steel. Maybe they'll tackle it from that angle this time?

@Fusion and that being the involvement of DNA: Please for the love of all things holy no >.> Having Kyurem Black and White was enough, no more fusing anything.

JayTheKing July 12th, 2013 12:07 AM

http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7133.jpg
Pangoro got hit by Hypnosis?
Wasnt he a Dark type while Hypnosis a Psychic move?
Probably Hypnosis is one these moves that are double typed or changed types.

Perriechu July 12th, 2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayTheKing (Post 7733803)
http://www.serebii.net/corocoro7133.jpg
Pangoro got hit by Hypnosis?
Wasnt he a Dark type while Hypnosis a Psychic move?
Probably Hypnosis is one these moves that are double typed or changed types.

Double typed moves?

Hypnosis can hit Dark types. A few status ailment moves are unaffected by immunities.

JayTheKing July 12th, 2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 7733810)
Double typed moves?

Hypnosis can hit Dark types. A few status ailment moves are unaffected by immunities.

Oh i had no idea.Never tried it.

papayaperson July 12th, 2013 7:38 AM

I'm a bit disappointed that Xerneas wasn't part Steel-type.. and that it was just one type. It would've been nice to at least have a dual-type legend.. I wonder now, though, how Dark and Fairy will interact with each other.

Hikamaru July 12th, 2013 7:43 AM

OK guys, the English names for these reveals got released so here they are:

Goronda > Pangoro
Maika > Inkay
Karamanero > Malamar
Peroppafu > Swirlix
Shushup > Spritzee
Geo Control > Geomancy
Death Wing > Oblivion Wing
Citoron > Clemont
Zakuro > Grant
Professor Platane > Professor Sycamore
Drain Kiss > Draining Kiss
Turn Over > Topsy-Turvy
Team Flare, Dark Aura, Fairy Aura and Sweet Veil retain their Japanese names

So, any thoughts on these names? Were any surprising at all?

I do like how catchy Swirlix and Spritzee sound, but I knew the English translators would nerf Death Wing's name because of the tendency for them to keep to the kid-friendly fanbase. As for the Gym Leaders, I don't know what types the names Clement and Grant have an association with but pretty good name choices nonethless. Drain Kiss didn't get that drastic of a name change though. I did get Pangoro, Inkay and Malamar spot on thanks to that leaker from months back who revealed descriptions of them.


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