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Girl gets banned from school trip for eating chocolate
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Okay, I understand things may be different in Europe than over here in North America, but how is eating chocolate an offense for being on a school trip?! |
Maybe they just wanted to be uber safe about allergies?
Seems a bit much, though. |
Can we go back to the D&D forum where, instead of people posting articles that make me hate humanity more than I already do, heated debates on sexuality and religion can be found that are pretty entertaining to read from an outsider's point of view? Please??
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And this is almost as bad as the kid who got suspended from school for making a gun shape out of his poptart. |
Well that's just appalling.
Should the child have broken the rules set in place by the school? No Should the parent have encouraged the breaking of these rules? No But, should those teachers have not just embarrassed the poor girl but also violated her privacy? HELL ******* NO. The only reason these teachers had any proof that a breach in the rules had occurred was because they had violated the privacy of an eleven year old by reading her mail (speaking of which, isn't reading another person's mail illegal in many places?) which could have contained anything of a personal nature, not just evidence of the rule breaking. The, to top that off, what did they do about this? They not only violated their student's privacy further but also destroyed her (or more likely her mother's) property. I understand that allergies and chocolate/nuts don't mix but that doesn't excuse what these teachers have done. The invasion of a persons privacy is something that I personally condone and get very up-in-arms about - probably because I value my privacy and the privacy of others a lot (but that's not important). What this girl did was wrong, but what those teachers did was far worse. It's people like these teachers that make me lose faith in the very institution I'm soon to be a part of. |
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My real question is, why did the girl act like having all that chocolate was a big deal? I mean, she hid it in a toilet bag and in her suitcase lining, which really makes no sense and it just outright odd. If you want some chocolate, bring maybe three or four bars, and maybe some for your friends because I guess this was some kind of bizarre party/ritual centered around eating it, so they'd probably want some too. She treated it like she was sneaking people across the border. As for the teachers, let's point out that opening people's mail is indeed illegal, and the fact that they didn't receive legal punishment for that is concerning nonetheless. But treating the girl as they did was unnecessary. I mean, come on, it's not like she was grinding up the chocolate and dumping the powder into the water tank. She obviously had no intentions to poison anyone and simply wanted to binge on chocolate, so the extremity of the punishment was just wrong in every sense. It's even worse that they let her stay on the trip yet they wouldn't let her do anything. In the definition of hazing, that's exclusion, and teachers are not supposed to promote bullying, which they clearly did. That right there is solid basis that the teachers were wrong. Simply put, people are nuts. No pun intended. |
Slow news day, huh?
On one hand echoing everyone else overreaction etc this is kinda ridiculous. However, of all the responses given so far, Quote:
As for the whole letters thing - I'm uncertain but I don't think that, due to child protection laws for teachers, it's illegal to read the mail that a child sends hope while that child is under your temporary care. Necessary or moral? Very arguable depending on the particular children on that trip (for example, do any of them have special situations which need attending to?) but no, I highly doubt it's straight-up illegal. I'm not backing up the school's actions since I do think they're kinda over-the-top and I do think the letter opening was a bit... shifty, but I don't think this is as big a deal as it's being made out to be. Like, at all. News stories are written like this to make us think something which could be totally reasonable is a huge thing and... yeah. I'll stop now, haha. I have to wonder though, wtf kind of a chocolate bar did she get for 20p? @[email protected] Quote:
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Bunch of bureaucratic idiots. They ought to be fired. Let the kids have some fun, jerks.
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The school is missing the bigger picture |
I don't know whether to think this is funny, ridiculous, or both? Maybe there was an incident in previous years where some of the kids overdosed themselves on sugar and one had some sort of diabetic attack.. and the school district wanted to make sure this wouldn't happen again so they banned all sugary treats? Let's not go on some hypothetical slippery slope tangent here. This is just plain bizarre, and for the teachers to carry out such an extensive search just makes the situation ten times more ludicrous. I wonder if the waiver the parents had to sign did actually state that no chocolate would be allowed on the trip. If the whole chocolate thing was such an issue, the teachers should have just confiscated it and scolded the kids or something, but not make the poor girl's mom come and pick her up because of her 'illegal' chocolate stash. What are people thinking these days lol.
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Sounds like that teacher is going through menopause.
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Chances are, the ban wasn't for nothing. It could have been banned due to allergies, hell - even the place they were staying might have a no chocolate policy, I've heard crazier things. The rules were clear, the child knew they were breaking the rules (hence hiding it) and the teachers followed through. Easy. |
The only thing I can see being a reason would be food allergies. If there was a few children with nut or cocoa allergies, maybe they were forbidden from bringing food that is potentially harmful to other children. Though, this is a stretch to say the very least.
For some reason I just keep thinking of the South Park episode where Cartman is at a fat camp, and is operating a blackmarket candy shop as if he was smuggling in drugs. This story is sad for the girl, but at the same time it is hard not to find humor in it, given how ridiculous it is. |
Either way, it wasn't said that there was a policy for an adult infringing on someone else's private property. In this case, the letter. If it was opened beforehand, I would say that the school should be held accountable for these actions, just as the girl should've followed the rules, the school should also be responsible for upholding the law.
According to the internet: Opening someone else's mail is a federal offense. Section 1702. Obstruction of correspondence Whoever takes any letter, postal card, or package out of any post office or any authorized depository for mail matter, or from any letter or mail carrier, or which has been in any post office or authorized depository, or in the custody of any letter or mail carrier, before it has been delivered to the person to whom it was directed, with design to obstruct the correspondence, or to pry into the business or secrets of another, or opens, secretes, embezzles, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. |
@Kura - Isn't that the law from the US? I'm not disputing you since I made the very same point earlier, and could very well be wrong, but if I am correct and that is a US law it seems as though it would make more sense to reference the law of the articles country of origin. I thought this was a story from Europe?
As for those who are saying that the teachers were too harsh on the girl - outside of the context of this article this isn't quite the case. Whilst the punishment they dolled out was harsh if it was stated that this is what she would receive and the girl knowingly broke the rules anyway she does deserve that punishment. The problem here isn't the severity of the punishment though, it is how the teachers came to discover the offence in the first place. Even if it isn't against the law for some reason, what these teachers did was highly unethical. They violated this girl's privacy and probably damaged her property - after all I don't remember the article saying the chocolate was ever actually found in her suitcase's lining (although I could be wrong and will possibly amend this after re-reading). It's not that there was nothing wrong with what the girl did, it is just that what she did wrong doesn't compare to what her teachers did. I'll apologize for how poorly written this post was, it's after 3:00am and I really should be sleeping right now. |
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I find this hiiilarious, because back when I was in primary school where I live (I live in a small town in London btw) there was also these trips to Isle of Wight in year 6, and one of the rules was no chocolate. I find it this story astounding though because a boy in my class did bring a chocolate with him and even though the teachers found out they just sighed and let him have it lol. The fact that the girl's poor mum had to drive down 160 miles and catch a ferry is quite ridiculous. I mean come on, seriously? |
I think everyone here has already said what I wanted to say, but I suppose I'll leave my two cents either way.
The ban was probably due to an allergy that the school did not want to have to deal with. They could get in quite a bit of trouble if someone had an allergic reaction and needed hospital treatment. The teacher's reaction may have been a bit out of line, but it was probably for good reason. From the way it sounds, the girl hid the chocolate because she knew of the ban, which means she was being dishonest. I don't think she should've been banned, but some sort of punishment was needed. |
Do they really hate chocolate that much?
No, but in all seriousness, that was extremely harsh and unnecessary, especially that they read her private mail and trashed her things due to a tiny violation such as having chocolate. I would understand a small punishment as in, like, time out or something, but doing that to a family? How awful. Things like these make me so much angrier at humans, I just want to crawl in a hole and cry. |
...what the heck? That really is odd...I mean, seriously...gee, why would they even go through all that trouble anyway, it's just food. It would be like locking everyone who had diabetes in a asylum...
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