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Nah December 26th, 2014 5:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenFlame (Post 8547678)
Why Freeze-Dry if it's a physical attacker?

Freeze-Dry let's Glalie and other pokes with Freeze-Dry maul all the pokes that would normally be neutral to Ice for 4x damage. Stuff like Kingdra, Gyarados, Gastrodon, Ludicolo, Quagsire, etc. It's just good to have it for Water types in general since they resist Refrigerated Explosions and Returns, and Earthquake might not be enough. If you do use Freeze-Dry, Naughty or Naive would be the natures to use.

srinator December 26th, 2014 5:57 AM

Mamo can 2hko Rotom wash with lo freeze dry after rocks lol

Edit: 16 spA ev's to Mamo for this :o

PlatinumDude December 26th, 2014 6:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenFlame (Post 8547678)
Why Freeze-Dry if it's a physical attacker?

While Freeze-Dry isn't necessary, it's actually neat to have simply because it lets Mega Glalie hit bulky Water Pokemon, like Wash Rotom, for super effective damage. It also hits Ludicolo, Mega Swampert, Quagsire and regular Gyarados 4x as super effectively:

4 SpA Glalie Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 168-200 (55.2 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

4 SpA Glalie Freeze-Dry vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 360-424 (108.7 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO

4 SpA Glalie Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Quagsire: 504-592 (127.9 - 150.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

4 SpA Glalie Freeze-Dry vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Mega Swampert: 328-388 (89.3 - 105.7%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkmnmaster69 (Post 8547985)
Could someone suggest me a good moveset for regular Rayquaza? Most sets I've seen have V-create, but I can't get hold of that move, since it's event only. Any help on what I could use?

V-create isn't necessary on Rayquaza anymore because Dragon Ascent is its new nuking attack. Both deal the same amount of damage. While Dragon Ascent still lowers Rayquaza's defenses, it doesn't lower its Speed. Earthquake, Fire Blast and Overheat still let it deal with Steel Pokemon. Despite its name, Dragon Ascent is a Flying move instead of a Dragon move:
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon Ascent
-Earthquake/Fire Blast
-Extreme Speed/Earthquake
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/40 SAtk/216 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Swords Dance
-Dragon Ascent
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed/Dragon Dance
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginRoute (Post 8548039)
Move 1: Swords Dance
Move 2: Earthquake / Iron Head
Move 3: Dragon Claw / Outrage
Move 4: Extreme Speed

Since V-create is an "anti-steel" type attack in Rayquaza's movepool, Earthquake is a good substitute for it. You can easily outmatch most of the Ice / Steel / Poison type attackers although you might experience some difficulty if the opponent has the Levitate ability.

On the other hand, you can also use Iron Head with 30% chance to flinch if you feel like gambling your way through the match.

As I mentioned above, Dragon Ascent is Rayquaza's new nuking attack, and it does more damage to Fairies than Iron Head would:

252 Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 104 HP / 32 Def Xerneas: 286-337 (68.2 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Iron Head vs. 104 HP / 32 Def Xerneas: 255-302 (60.8 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And even though Mega Rayquaza is banned to "anything goes", Dragon Ascent isn't. In Ubers play (yes, it's a tier now), regular Rayquaza can still have Dragon Ascent, but it can't Mega Evolve.

Edit: Greninja'd by a long shot, but I still feel like giving better explanations.

The ??? December 26th, 2014 8:27 AM

So I was playing a fine emerald hack, and decided to EV train my pokemons for the FIRST TIME.
I haven't done it ever.

It was already too late as my levels were 60+ when I decided, so I decided to gather berries that reset the evs.

My question is : Since there is no way to determine how much Evs we have in which stat, say for ex. if my Milotic has +56 Attack EV, and I give him 5 Kelpsy Berries, he will get -50 Attack EV, so will it eat another berry? or my 6 attack stats are now wasted?

Another question : is there any way to determine the IVs of newly hatched pokemons? by any means at all in emerald?

THanks :D

Anyone knows? Need help here.. :( :(

Xairmo December 26th, 2014 2:11 PM

Something that just occurred to me that I've never been certain of:

When a Pokémon is being suspect tested, such as right now with Greninja, should I immediately consider him as Uber and take him off any teams I have or is he still viable for OU until they reach a verdict?

Nah December 26th, 2014 2:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xairmo (Post 8548627)
Something that just occurred to me that I've never been certain of:

When a Pokémon is being suspect tested, such as right now with Greninja, should I immediately consider him as Uber and take him off any teams I have or is he still viable for OU until they reach a verdict?

It's still usable in OU until the official decision if reached. A suspected Pokemon isn't necessarily going to get sent to Ubers (like Keldeo in Gen 5), even though that's been the trend this generation. Though tbh chances are pretty likely that Greninja will get banned, so you'll wanna start thinking about other options and how/if you need to re-work your teams.

GreenFlame December 26th, 2014 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8548118)
Freeze-Dry let's Glalie and other pokes with Freeze-Dry maul all the pokes that would normally be neutral to Ice for 4x damage. Stuff like Kingdra, Gyarados, Gastrodon, Ludicolo, Quagsire, etc. It's just good to have it for Water types in general since they resist Refrigerated Explosions and Returns, and Earthquake might not be enough. If you do use Freeze-Dry, Naughty or Naive would be the natures to use.

Hm, I already bred a Jolly one, but I guess if I have to I'll breed again... I know Freeze-Dry gives coverage for Water-types, and I guess it's worth it if you can deal that much damage to them.

I also forgot Mega Glalie has Refrigerate, thus making Return its most powerful Ice move, but since Glalie has nothing else to get Water-types, it needs Freeze-Dry as well for coverage.

Thanks, PlatinumDude and Zekrom! And Happy New Year to both of you :)!

OriginRoute December 26th, 2014 4:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8548134)
As I mentioned above, Dragon Ascent is Rayquaza's new nuking attack, and it does more damage to Fairies than Iron Head would:

252 Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 104 HP / 32 Def Xerneas: 286-337 (68.2 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Rayquaza Iron Head vs. 104 HP / 32 Def Xerneas: 255-302 (60.8 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

And even though Mega Rayquaza is banned to "anything goes", Dragon Ascent isn't. In Ubers play (yes, it's a tier now), regular Rayquaza can still have Dragon Ascent, but it can't Mega Evolve.

Edit: Greninja'd by a long shot, but I still feel like giving better explanations.

Yes you're right. Dragon Ascent is the recommended attack move for ΩRuby / αSapphire Rayquaza. But for just a regular one, of course we don't have access to that move. Earthquake is the best replacement. Iron Head is just another choice aside from Earthquake (or Brick Break).

PlatinumDude December 26th, 2014 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginRoute (Post 8548784)
Yes you're right. Dragon Ascent is the recommended attack move for ΩRuby / αSapphire Rayquaza. But for just a regular one, of course we don't have access to that move. Earthquake is the best replacement. Iron Head is just another choice aside from Earthquake (or Brick Break).

Any Rayquaza can learn Dragon Ascent, even those transferred from past generations. In OR/AS, Zinnia's grandmother becomes the Dragon Ascent move tutor after the Delta Episode.

OriginRoute December 26th, 2014 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8548810)
Any Rayquaza can learn Dragon Ascent, even those transferred from past generations. In OR/AS, Zinnia's grandmother becomes the Dragon Ascent move tutor after the Delta Episode.

No I mean I thought we shouldn't give a regular Rayquaza an access to Mega Evolution with that move. (Because just like how they asked, a regular/plain Rayquaza moveset)

I really like it though. Aside from being Rayquaza's main STAB and signature move, we don't need to use Mega Stones which is convenient if we are planning to use Life Orb or bands.

Nah December 26th, 2014 5:00 PM

You can always teach it Dragon Ascent and not click the Mega Evolution button.

OriginRoute December 26th, 2014 5:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8548831)
You can always teach it Dragon Ascent and not click the Mega Evolution button.

Right, that's the trick. XP

If you're going to ask me though, I will surely click the button for additional damage and speed. But if I plan to use just a regular Rayquaza (for exhibition or another purpose), I'd rather use another move.

Also they were asking for a replacement for the movesets in Smogon with V-create. Obviously, it's not those movesets with Dragon Ascent.

PlatinumDude December 26th, 2014 5:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginRoute (Post 8548871)
Right, that's the trick. XP

If you're going to ask me though, I will surely click the button for additional damage and speed. But if I plan to use just a regular Rayquaza (for exhibition or another purpose), I'd rather use another move.

Also they were asking for a replacement for the movesets in Smogon with V-create. Obviously, it's not those movesets with Dragon Ascent.

OR/AS Rayquaza sets have been figured out already. As I already mentioned, V-create isn't necessary anymore.

Just remember, Mega Rayquaza is banned to "anything goes". Regular Rayquaza can still have Dragon Ascent, but it can't Mega Evolve in Ubers play. Thanks to its high base power, as well as the fact that Dragon Ascent is Rayquaza's first good Flying STAB, Dragon Ascent has become one of Rayquaza's staple moves. Just don't be Mega Evolution-happy when you have Rayquaza out.

OriginRoute December 26th, 2014 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8548891)
OR/AS Rayquaza sets have been figured out already. As I already mentioned, V-create isn't necessary anymore.

Just remember, Mega Rayquaza is banned to "anything goes". Regular Rayquaza can still have Dragon Ascent, but it can't Mega Evolve in Ubers play. Thanks to its high base power, as well as the fact that Dragon Ascent is Rayquaza's first good Flying STAB, Dragon Ascent has become one of Rayquaza's staple moves. Just don't be Mega Evolution-happy when you have Rayquaza out.

If they do have access to that move, then it's recommended. Otherwise, there are plenty of moves depending on preferences.

GreenFlame December 26th, 2014 5:56 PM

Forgot to ask before, what IV set for the Glalie? I know 6 IV is preferable for mixed Pokémon, but that's too rare for me to breed over and over. Is minus Sp.Def good?

PlatinumDude December 26th, 2014 7:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenFlame (Post 8548906)
Forgot to ask before, what IV set for the Glalie? I know 6 IV is preferable for mixed Pokémon, but that's too rare for me to breed over and over. Is minus Sp.Def good?

Honestly, I'd just go 20-31 in the stats you plan to take advantage of. Mega Glaile's bulk isn't the best, so I wouldn't worry about that. A 31 Speed IV would be great as well.

luo xiang December 26th, 2014 8:59 PM

To my knowledge, Eve's are at zero until u train them (pokemon). They are different from iv's which are passed down at random by breeding. And as far as I know, there should be a dude in the pokecenter that tells ya. That would be the only way....or calculator :|

GreenFlame December 26th, 2014 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 8548994)
Honestly, I'd just go 20-31 in the stats you plan to take advantage of. Mega Glaile's bulk isn't the best, so I wouldn't worry about that. A 31 Speed IV would be great as well.

So I guess 31/31/31/31/-/31 is good? I'm doing a Naughty nature so I can run Freeze-Dry, and yeah, it'll mostly be on offense.

KeepTheLegacy December 28th, 2014 1:58 AM

Adamant Terrakion Sets?
 
So I was nature-hunting Terrakion earlier today, and I caught one with an Adamant Nature. Since I use Smogon sets, they all say to get a Terrakion with a Jolly (or any other speed-boosting) nature. I was bummed out and wanted to soft reset again, but I decided to take it to the judge:

And it has 4 perfect IVs (the most notable ones being attack and speed.)

So are there any sets you guys can recommend for an Adamant Terrakion? Also, how should I build a team around it?

~Thanks a lot.

srinator December 28th, 2014 2:14 AM

Terrakion @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Stone Edge
- Close Combat
- Earthquake

Or you could use swords dance or even double dance, possibly life orb over lefties if only rp

Jakeings December 29th, 2014 4:46 AM

EV Training in ORAS - Confused!
 
So, i've been trying out EV training for the first time in any pokemon game for me, and I thought i'd start out by raising the attack EVs of my Blaziken to make it into a physical sweeper, so I caught myself an oddish with sweet scent, taught Blaziken incinerate, and headed out to Mt Pyre to take on hoards of Shuppet with my Blaziken (holding a power bracer of course) and after 30 hoards, which should have been enough to max out my EVs, I noticed only a 3 point change in my attack stat. Now, as i'm new, I may be completely misunderstanding something here, but i'm extremely confused.

I'm level 73 at the moment with an attack stat of 205, but i'm pretty sure that's no where near maxed out for my level, so can somebody tell me where i've gone wrong?

GreenFlame December 29th, 2014 4:51 AM

I really don't remember if I've ever asked before, but now I need a Mega Swampert set.
It seems like Swift Swim would help it a lot if it were on a Rain team or had Rain Dance. It has absolutely huge Attack, probably something to be taken advantage of.

And heck, while we're at it, a Mega Sceptile set can't hurt either.

Thanks and Happy New Year in advance!


Edit: Ehm, just realised I double-posted. Sorry.

PlatinumDude December 29th, 2014 5:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenFlame (Post 8552372)
I really don't remember if I've ever asked before, but now I need a Mega Swampert set.
It seems like Swift Swim would help it a lot if it were on a Rain team or had Rain Dance. It has absolutely huge Attack, probably something to be taken advantage of.

And heck, while we're at it, a Mega Sceptile set can't hurt either.

Thanks and Happy New Year in advance!


Edit: Ehm, just realised I double-posted. Sorry.

Mega Swampert covers a Rain team's Electric weakness pretty nicely:
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Low Kick/Superpower/Rain Dance
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spe (this outspeeds Mega Sceptile, but if you're paranoid about Scarf Therian Landorus outspeeding you, you can go max Speed)
Item: Swampertite

Mega Sceptile sets:
-Substitute
-Giga Drain
-Dragon Pulse
-Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Sceptilite
Ability: Overgrow

or
-Leaf Storm/Energy Ball
-Dragon Pulse
-Earthquake/Protect
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Focus Blast
Nature: Naive/Timid
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Sceptilite
Ability: Overgrow

Nah December 29th, 2014 6:29 AM

EVs are not applied all at once like they used to be. It's now a more gradual thing. Your Blaziken will still have a higher Attack stat than Blazikens of similar natures, levels, and IVs that did not receive the same training. It's most noticeable at level 100.

Jakeings December 29th, 2014 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zekrom (Post 8552444)
EVs are not applied all at once like they used to be. It's now a more gradual thing. Your Blaziken will still have a higher Attack stat than Blazikens of similar natures, levels, and IVs that did not receive the same training. It's most noticeable at level 100.

So would it be best to level up to 100 and EV train then, or to EV train and then level up to 100?


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