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Scarecr0wFixatioN August 7th, 2013 7:38 PM

The corocoro site updated apparently, (http://kalos-pkmnacademy.tumblr.com/post/57656939031/corocoro-website-updated-revealing-that-this)


From what its translated as, it's a bit more than I was expecting. I just hope when they say evolutions, they mean from older gens as well.

Xander Olivieri August 7th, 2013 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecr0wFixatioN (Post 7772845)
The corocoro site updated apparently, (http://kalos-pkmnacademy.tumblr.com/post/57656939031/corocoro-website-updated-revealing-that-this)


From what its translated as, it's a bit more than I was expecting. I just hope when they say evolutions, they mean from older gens as well.

Google Translate version:

Colo is also this month
Way Beyond the Pokemon scoop Bukkake!
Pokemon to a new evolution!
Further new Pokemon!
"Pokemon X", "Y Pokemon"
Pokemon! do not appear only in each
I have got a big scoop, the ... us!

Entermaid August 7th, 2013 9:17 PM

Someone translated it to this:
"Meaning that the scoop of the century is to be released, it will include new evolved Pokemon, more version exclusive Pokemon and loads of new Kalos Pokemon!"

I will search for other interpretations, but honestly, I really expected and wanted that version exclusive content pronto, so I would be happy if this were the accurate translation.

And another one, "The official Corocoro website updated earlier today and has revealed that the August issue will reveal more version exclusive Pokemon, new Pokemon evolutions and even more new Pokemon from the Kalos region!"

Oh yeah, so it looks like scoop equates to quantity rather than a dramatic change in game mechanics. Though, we could expect some new features as well along with characters. For me, I am fine with evo's and exclusive content.

The leak could come at any time now! SO EXCITED!

swift13 August 7th, 2013 9:22 PM

i am so stoked for this o h m y g o d

SkyRyder August 7th, 2013 9:41 PM

Well, it's August 8th here now, so CoroCoro can leak any time since it's expected to release sooner than usual. I'm pretty excited, but I don't want to expect too much out of it, that way if a lot does reveal, I'll be more hyped.

Pretty much as long as it doesn't show too much of the storyline/plot, and just either mechanics/a couple new pokemon/evolutions, I'll be fine. Now let's see if the potato chip and sushi roll Pokemon are real or not. I won't care either way, since I don't hate food Pokemon, yet I'm not too much of a big fan of them.

Palkia August 7th, 2013 11:00 PM

I'll be disappointed if there isn't new real-time battle mechanic. It's been turn-based since 1996, and with new powerful hardware, it's just flat-out lazy if they a least don't implement a real-time battle mode.

I'd even like a real-time Pokémon Contest; just anything which is different from the same turn-based gameplay we've been playing over the past 15 years.

Now, if the game still is turn-based, I guess the game will still be enjoyable, but the lack of innovation is making the longevity of the series a concern to me.

Quote:

Now let's see if the potato chip and sushi roll Pokemon are real or not.
After that horrible Mewtwo forme, I'd expect something like this. Now throw spikes and other randomly coloured crap on it and we can call it a day.

Jigglymilk August 7th, 2013 11:05 PM

Since the game is so close to release, they might just go ahead and reveal the entire pokedex? Or is it too soon for that?

SkyRyder August 8th, 2013 1:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 7773137)
Since the game is so close to release, they might just go ahead and reveal the entire pokedex? Or is it too soon for that?

IMO, I think it would be too soon, and it would also be the first time for them to do this. I believe the B/W Pokedex was leaked from rom dumping, which can't be done on the 3DS atm.

Usually in past generations they only show a handful or two of Pokemon prior to the JP release(and then everything quickly gets revealed upon discovery). I would be glad if they didn't show all of them now, and not even prior to the release date. I hope they leave out a couple handfuls for us to discover on our own.

WishCookie August 8th, 2013 2:14 AM

I'm not really a big fan of food Pokemon and I do wonder sometimes if there is still any creativity left to create the coming generations. WHAT IF! what if, what if, what if, what if they reveal a new eeveeltuion! >:)

blue August 8th, 2013 4:06 AM

Bring it on ;) I'm so psyched now! I hope the evolution they're talking about are cross-generation evolutions! Also, with this being the biggest scoop yet I'm expecting or hoping for plenty more Pokémon than previous scoops.

G_Sylar August 8th, 2013 4:48 AM

Is the new Absol evo image valid? Looks cool

http://31.media.tumblr.com/637fd95e011a0ac53287d8cd31785f3b/tumblr_ml07pfYHvv1rw2cyro1_500.png

Perriechu August 8th, 2013 5:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_Sylar (Post 7773392)

I'm pretty sure this image has been around since the beginning of Gen V, so it's probably fake.

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 5:28 AM

It looks like an Absol that shaved some of its hair off lol

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G_Sylar (Post 7773392)

I have to admit the image is definitely fake, but it does look awesome though!

blue August 8th, 2013 5:45 AM

Even though that image is fake I do think an Absol evolution is very plausible, especially in this Generation.

G_Sylar August 8th, 2013 6:17 AM

I saw it on the corocoro twitter. Nice work putting the fake image ingame though.

SkyRyder August 8th, 2013 6:38 AM

So CoroCoro updated now. Since I don't want to bother posting the pictures... I really must say... that I have no idea what they are trying to do with Pokemon like Blaziken, Lucario, and Ampharos... the others look fine, however.

Edit: Could they be either new forms or evolutions?

Edit 2: "Be warned as this is not 100% confirmed at this time" was posted on Serebii. I think the new Pokemon are real, but these new forms I believe are fake.

iRyahn August 8th, 2013 6:46 AM

Okay what the actual heck?

This is the first thing in X and Y that has upset me. I mean seriously Mega-Pokemon? Are we turning into Digimon..?

Also apparently you can just add flowing random stuff to a Poke and call it Mega.
And why for the love of god do Pokemon like Lucario and Blaziken have this? Seriously..?

pokerex August 8th, 2013 6:51 AM

I am laughing my ass off right now. This must be fake.
I mean, hello? wtf is this. Blaziken and lucario are getting an evo/new form?
I tell you this is 100% fake

blue August 8th, 2013 6:52 AM

Mega? Ok.. What? I'm really finding this hard to believe.

Hacki101 August 8th, 2013 6:57 AM

I think they are all new forms... because they are next to the new Mewtwo form. Well I guess this is game changing if every family line gets a new 'Mega' version. I hope they have better names than MegaBlaziken etc. though.

Also, that new Pokemon is just a small Raichu :(

blue August 8th, 2013 6:58 AM

The next batch of CoroCoro information has been posted to Japanese forums and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games Pokémon X & Y. We're currently in the process of translating, with thanks to my good friend StreetsAhead, so keep checking back. Be warned as this is not 100% confirmed at this time. First off are various "Mega" forms of various Pokémon.

Specifically MegaBlaziken, MegaAbsol, MegaMawile, MegaMewtwo, MegaLucario and MegaAmpharos. They're all called "Mega". MegaMawile is Steel/Fairy-type, as is normal Mawile now. MegaMawile has the ability Huge Power. MegaBlaziken has Speed Boost. MegaLucario has Adaptability

They "evolve" through a process called "Mega Evolution"

Pre-evolution of Gogoat is called Meekuru. It is 0.9m and 31.0kg

We have an Electric Fairy called Dedenne. It is 0.2m and 2.2kg. It is the Antenna Pokémon and has the abilities Pick Up or Cheek Pouches

The Rabbit is a Normal-type called Horubii. It is 0.4m and 5.0kg. It is the Digging Pokémon and has the abilities Pick Up or Cheek Pouches

The Super Training facility is also showcased

MrGriszell August 8th, 2013 6:58 AM

I love it. And if you think about it pokemon getting new forms will fit in the genetics theme if there is one .

pokerex August 8th, 2013 6:59 AM

If these scans are somehow real though. Then they didn't lie when they said "The scoop of the century"

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 7:00 AM

Well, it would explain Mewtwo's new form...

This doesn't seem right... Why would they give Blaziken a "Mega Evolution"?

Water Gym Leader August 8th, 2013 7:00 AM

I really hope that these "Mega Forms" are fake. I don't think I could play another Pokemon game again if they were real.

blue August 8th, 2013 7:00 AM

Completely unexpected, I'm happy for Mawile getting a boost I suppose but this is not what I had in mind. On the other hand I do like the three new Pokémon revealed, they're kinda cute! With these Mega Pokémon looks like Mawile is Steel/Fairy and Absol is Dark/Flying which seems pretty reasonable, what I'm a little dumbfounded by is Blaziken... a starter getting an alternate forme/evolution? This really is a "scoop of the century" in an obscure way... Let's just hope this is only for a certain handful of Pokémon.

Hacki101 August 8th, 2013 7:01 AM

Actually, I would love this if they only evolve after the Pokemon achieves set objectives like be in the party for 5 hours play time and defeat 1000 Pokemon.

MrGriszell August 8th, 2013 7:02 AM

How are you guys feeling about this?

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 7:05 AM

The mouse looks like a mini Raichu

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7773543)
How are you guys feeling about this?

I'm not a big fan of it, but it could be worse... This will take some getting used too.

If these are fake, then the faker must've had a lot of time on their hands.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:09 AM

I, actually feel pretty pumped, also, highly doubt these are fakes, the art definitely looks like Sugimori, and well, it's on serebii.

Also they look BOSS

Perriechu August 8th, 2013 7:10 AM

I really, really, really dislike this feature if it's true. I hope to god these are fake; if they are true why would they give Blaziken, who is a starter Pokemon, a new evolution/forme w/e? Dedenne looks like something from a the Pikachu line, too. I doubt they'd make a Pokemon look so much like the franchise mascot.

The only believable thing is Mawile being Steel/Fairy... And Gogoat's prevo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoloarAbusoru
I, actually feel pretty pumped, also, highly doubt these are fakes, the art definitely looks like Sugimori, and well, it's on serebii.

Also they look BOSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serebii
Be warned as this is not 100% confirmed at this time.

Just because they're on Serebii it doesn't mean they are confirmed.

blue August 8th, 2013 7:10 AM

I think I'd be more disappointed if it were Pokémon that didn't really appeal to me, however I really do like the Hoenn Pokemon and for Pokemon such as Mawile, Blaziken and Absol to get boosts it's kinda cool.

Helios93 August 8th, 2013 7:11 AM

The art for the Megas look a bit fake.

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2013 7:14 AM

Pokémon X and Y is apparently giving me a Dragonball Z vibe with all of these "Mega" forms being revealed. Sadly, it looks like Sableye, Mawile's equivalent, isn't going to receive one (I blame the popularity of Prankster Sableye). Not only that, this also further proves that Zoroark was a failed attempt to achieve the same fame Lucario has received over the past years since Movie 8 by not getting getting a Mega forme itself.

SkyRyder August 8th, 2013 7:15 AM

If you click this image of the three new Pokemon, above it you can see "MegaAbsol"'s feet. Sorry to say for those who think it is fake, but there is a chance it might be legitimate. I'm not sure how long it will take for me to get used to this feature of "Mega Pokemon" since this will also affect competitive battling if they alter stats in any way noticeable.

Edit: But then again, the entire page could be fake, and not just the Mega Pokemon.

Water Gym Leader August 8th, 2013 7:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7773556)
I, actually feel pretty pumped, also, highly doubt these are fakes, the art definitely looks like Sugimori, and well, it's on serebii.

Also they look BOSS

Serebii does have this posted as well:
"
Spoiler:
In The Games Department

Pokémon - CoroCoro Reveals
The next batch of CoroCoro information has been posted to Japanese forums and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games Pokémon X & Y. We're currently in the process of translating, with thanks to my good friend StreetsAhead, so keep checking back. Be warned as this is not 100% confirmed at this time. First off are various "Mega" forms of various Pokémon, specifically MegaBlaziken, MegaAbsol, MegaMawile, MegaMewtwo, MegaLucario and MegaAmpharos. They're all called "Mega". MegaMawile is Steel/Fairy-type, as is normal Mawile now. MegaMawile has the ability Huge Power. MegaBlaziken has Speed Boost. MegaLucario has Adaptability. MegaAbsol has the ability Magic Bounce
They "evolve" through a process called "Mega Evolution"
Pre-evolution of Gogoat is called Meekuru. It is 0.9m and 31.0kg
We have an Electric Fairy called Dedenne. It is 0.2m and 2.2kg. It is the Antenna Pokémon and has the abilities Pick Up or Cheek Pouches
The Rabbit is a Normal-type called Horubii. It is 0.4m and 5.0kg. It is the Digging Pokémon and has the abilities Pick Up or Cheek Pouches
The Super Training facility is also showcase."

It says that it is not 100% confirmed at this time.


SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:16 AM

Scans are now updated, with a new Gym Leader who apparently holds the key to Mega Evolution and is also an in-line skater.

Perriechu August 8th, 2013 7:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 7773570)
Pokémon X and Y is apparently giving me a Dragonball Z vibe with all of these "Mega" forms being revealed. Sadly, it looks like Sableye, Mawile's equivalent, isn't going to receive one (I blame the popularity of Prankster Sableye). Not only that, this also further proves that Zoroark was a failed attempt to achieve the same fame Lucario has received over the past years since Movie 8 by not getting getting a Mega forme itself.

If they are real, just because Sableye isn't there doesn't mean it won't get one. If the feature is real then there'll be a lot more Pokemon to receive a mega forme.

swift13 August 8th, 2013 7:18 AM

WOWWWWW MEGA POKEMON EW WHAT IS THIS

and that electric fairy looks like a stuffed raichu um

blue August 8th, 2013 7:18 AM

"A new character is shown called Koruni. She is a Gym Leader and holds the key to understanding Mega Evolutions" - This should be interesting...

http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8135.jpg

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 7:18 AM

Oprah: "You get a Mega Evolution, and you get a Mega Evolution! Everyone gets a Mega Evolution!"

blue August 8th, 2013 7:19 AM

http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8136.jpg

16:18: First event for Pokémon X & Y. Torchic to be distributed from October 12th to January 15th. Hold a Blaziken Knight. Can eventually become MegaBlaziken

Jigglymilk August 8th, 2013 7:26 AM

What... I HATE THIS! Why can't these Pokemon (minus freaking BLAZIKEN. WHY THE HELL.... I CAN'T) just get normal evolutions? Will there ever be just average evolutions again? Or is this just laziness and now everything is gonna be called Mega? This is the most dissapointing and gobsmacking piece of info I've ever seen attatched to a pokemon game. Even if I do hate the idea of mega evoulution, I still really like MegaMawile, MegaAmpharos and MegaLucario... (as far as their appearances go) But honestly. Blaziken? A starter? What's next, MegaInfernape? Also this makes Blaziken the first starter with a 4th evolution... assuming these "Mega evolutions" are even permanent? They almost look like limited boosts. And if these are restricted to events only, Then I am REALLY gonna question rather or not I purchase X/Y...

Edit: And why even bother talking about the 3 new pokemon... Generic pikachu, Bugs Bunny (possible generic rodent) and a Gogoat evo we all pretty much knew already existed.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:29 AM

People really need to stop overreacting, corocoro did mention it was gonna be the scoop of the century, so it's not like they'd post something normal.
This is something new, very new.

Boonzeet August 8th, 2013 7:29 AM

"Hold a Blaziken Knight. Can eventually become MegaBlaziken"

What is this? Digimon?

This is awful, this is really potentially the worst change Pokemon have ever done. The electric fairy is unnecessary, how many trying-to-be-cute electric rodents do we need? The only redeeming feature of those scans is the rabbit...

Perriechu August 8th, 2013 7:30 AM

Serebii's twitter updated saying that everything is now 100% confirmed.

metalhand August 8th, 2013 7:32 AM

it seems to me fake...
all this mega thing just look like a fans idea...
but i wouldn't mind having mega evolution, especially if charizard get one(it would be so epic!)

by the way mega blazikan look a little bit like torchic original design(which had a wings on his head just like mega blazikan

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 7773613)
Serebii's twitter updated saying that everything is now 100% confirmed.

Yup, all confirmed now that the corocoro cover has been shown.
And personally, I like what's been revealed, and I am very curious about it.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 7:34 AM

They look pretty badass, but I don't like the idea. Though I would eventually become a big user of them.

Z25 August 8th, 2013 7:36 AM

I'm betting this is real, it would take to much time to fake. I like the concept and I'm sure there will still be new plain evolutions as well. I like the gym leader design and the item that evolves torchic. I'm guessing there be many evolutions like that with items similar to it.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 7:36 AM

SO, should we make a petition and have everyone sign it to rid of the crap to GF?!?!

Either that, or this is some sort of practical joke.

Water Gym Leader August 8th, 2013 7:40 AM

Serebii has in the past confirmed something that is fake. Since none of the new Pokemon and forms reflect the art style of Ken Sugimori, this whole thing could be a big prank. None of the images on Serebii look real at all.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Water Gym Leader (Post 7773643)
Serebii has in the past confirmed something that is fake. Since none of the new Pokemon and forms reflect the art style of Ken Sugimori, this whole thing could be a big prank. None of the images on Serebii look real at all.

Actually, 1, the scan of the corocoro cover confirms their legitimacy, 2, the art style is Very sugimori, it has his signature line art and shading. And painterly style.

BubbleBeams August 8th, 2013 7:42 AM

I am interested in the MegaPokemon and I'm curious to see how it will be a game-changer.

Are the Pokemon stuck in their mega forms permanently once you turn them into a MegaPokemon?

pokerex August 8th, 2013 7:42 AM

okay then...it is confirmed to be real.
I like the designs of the mega pokemon. except for mega ampharos.
I'd like to know more of what they exactly are and what their purpose is before i can have a full opinion

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleBeams (Post 7773648)
I am interested in the MegaPokemon and I'm curious to see how it will be a game-changer.

Are the Pokemon stuck in their mega forms permanently once you turn them into a MegaPokemon?

Judging by the fact Mewtwo in the movie could switch at will, it's possible that it's not Permanent, but that's the movie, so it might be permanent, as it does use "Evolution" in the name.

Water Gym Leader August 8th, 2013 7:45 AM

http://www.serebii.net/archive/June-2013.shtml

Look at the CoroCoro on that page and compare it to the one on the home page. They are completely different in art styles, and in presentation. There is in no way that today's "CoroCoro" was real.

PlatinumDude August 8th, 2013 7:47 AM

Well, that escalated quickly...

Anyway, I'm utterly shocked that the Mega-Evolutions have been confirmed, but I can't help but wonder if it'll be fake all along. I don't have much of an opinion on them, except for Meg Mawile, with its twin jaws; that's interesting, IMO.

From a competitive perspective: Since Meg Mawile gained Huge Power, I wonder if it'll see some use in the lower tiers? Now that Meg Absol gained Magic Bounce, it won't fear status moves like Thunder Wave and Will-o-Wisp anymore; it may still have those low defenses to worry about. Meg Lucaro's Adaptability Close Combat sure is going to hurt, will it?

blue August 8th, 2013 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Water Gym Leader (Post 7773654)
http://www.serebii.net/archive/June-2013.shtml

Look at the CoroCoro on that page and compare it to the one on the home page. They are completely different in art styles, and in presentation. There is in no way that today's "CoroCoro" was real.

As hard as this is to believe, I think it has been confirmed as true..

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Water Gym Leader (Post 7773654)
http://www.serebii.net/archive/June-2013.shtml

Look at the CoroCoro on that page and compare it to the one on the home page. They are completely different in art styles, and in presentation. There is in no way that today's "CoroCoro" was real.

The corocoro on the homepage is last Month's, notice how it shows all Pokémon revealed last month?

Plus, there's a date of 7/13 on the bottom right, that 7, is a month, that month, being July.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 7:49 AM

I also noticed the art style. They seem very different then what we have normally. All of this could still be fake. Possibly the same person who showed all the pokemon last generation. Though it has been confirmed. We can not trust it 100% until it comes out.

BubbleBeams August 8th, 2013 7:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7773652)
Judging by the fact Mewtwo in the movie could switch at will, it's possible that it's not Permanent, but that's the movie, so it might be permanent, as it does use "Evolution" in the name.

I'm hoping that it's not a permanent thing, but rather just a boost with like a held item or something. I feel like making it permanent would be a little bit extreme. Kind of like giving Pokemon like Blaziken a 4th evolution.

Jigglymilk August 8th, 2013 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleBeams (Post 7773671)
I'm hoping that it's not a permanent thing, but rather just a boost with like a held item or something. I feel like making it permanent would be a little bit extreme. Kind of like giving Pokemon like Blaziken a 4th evolution.

But then why give a pokemon like Mawile, who desperately needs an evolution, a mega one instead of a regular one? If it is not permanent and just a held item, than this somehow is even WORSE than it already is.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 7:57 AM

Guys...There is a Stone that comes with Torchic in the Torchic Download event called the Mega Stone.

Read peoples! There is an item to get to the Mega forms.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serebii
First event for Pokémon X & Y. Torchic to be distributed from October 12th to January 15th. Hold a new item called Blaziken Knight. Can eventually become MegaBlaziken. It's also mentioned to utilise something called a Mega Stone


metalhand August 8th, 2013 7:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7773682)
Guys...There is a Stone that comes with Torchic in the Torchic Download event called the Mega Stone.

Read peoples! There is an item to get to the Mega forms.

wasn't it called "balzikan knight"?

Palkia August 8th, 2013 7:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Para-Dox (Post 7772013)
Hmm... scoop of the century?

Legendary spoon pokémon confirmed!

You know what!

Spoon Pokémon >>>> Mega Pokémon

These mega-evolutions sound like something a 7 year old would make. I'm shocked and most of all disappointed, especially at how all these mega-evolutions look like horribly overdesigned trash. Black/White Kyurem were only a litmus test for this forme overdose.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 8:03 AM

I'll seriously take an idiotic idea such as a potato chip bag pokemon over this atrocity any day!!!

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalhand (Post 7773690)
wasn't it called "balzikan knight"

First event for Pokémon X & Y. Torchic to be distributed from October 12th to January 15th. Hold a new item called Blaziken Knight. Can eventually become MegaBlaziken. It's also mentioned to utilise something called a Mega Stone

The bottom portion of the info. The Blaziken Knight was edited after I first saw it as it used to say Torchic was holding the Mega Stone.

Though if they have specific names for the items, then each may be iconic to the Pokemon.

Blaziken's Knight Form may end up the localized name due to the item's name.

BubbleBeams August 8th, 2013 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigglymilk (Post 7773678)
But then why give a pokemon like Mawile, who desperately needs an evolution, a mega one instead of a regular one? If it is not permanent and just a held item, than this somehow is even WORSE than it already is.

Maybe they will still be giving Pokemon like Mawile and Absol evolutions, and then we get megaforms of all pokemon if they're holding the megastone? I really don't know. That's probably not the case. I can see how giving them a megaform is kind of a lazy way of avoiding giving them actual evolutions and why that would be a bit dumb. But since we already see there is a Megaform of a fully evolved pokemon in a 3-stage evolution line, I'm hoping it's not permanent because that's a very drastic change from the evolution system we're all used to.

If they can only be in these forms with a held item, at least that would make it a little more complicated to get a team of full mega pokemon for in-game playing and competitive battling. idk

There's not enough information about this feature yet for me to decide if I like it or not.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleBeams (Post 7773724)
Maybe they will still be giving Pokemon like Mawile and Absol evolutions, and then we get megaforms of all pokemon if they're holding the megastone? I really don't know. That's probably not the case. I can see how giving them a megaform is kind of a lazy way of avoiding giving them actual evolutions and why that would be a bit dumb. But since we already see there is a Megaform of a fully evolved pokemon in a 3-stage evolution line, I'm hoping it's not permanent because that's a very drastic change from the evolution system we're all used to.

If they can only be in these forms with a held item, at least that would make it a little more complicated to get a team of full mega pokemon for in-game playing and competitive battling. idk

There's not enough information about this feature yet for me to decide if I like it or not.

Well I certainly like this new feature already, I mean, it's still well within the realms of Pokémon, and basically confirms the genetics theme everyone was wanting.

Snowdrop August 8th, 2013 8:25 AM

DEAR ARCEUS!

I'm baffled! I don't even know what to say. I think they could have come up with a better term than "mega forms" if that is indeed the name... mega is too overused. They look a little overdesigned,especially Lucario, but Absol and Ampharos look kinda cool. How many Pokemon are going to get a MegaForm, I wonder? MegaDelcatty? MegaDunsparce? MegaCastform? This is really surprising, to stay the least. I'm curious about the details of all this!

I haven't seen much mention of the 3 newbies, so lemme say: Gogoat's baby form is adorbs, I want to hug the rabbit thing, and I want Raichu's hamster for a pet.

Z25 August 8th, 2013 8:27 AM

There is no way it's fake guys, it's already been confirmed and there is no way you could fake this. The page designs on each issue are different each time. I think this works like a mutation to pokemon.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 8:28 AM

Also, no one's talking about the gym leader, people, what type of gym leader do you think she'll be?

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:29 AM

People...ITS NOT LOCALIZED YET! "Mega Form" is JAPANESE ONLY SO FAR. Stop complaining about the name that isn't even translated. Wait for our official translated versions THEN complain...sheesh.

Snowdrop August 8th, 2013 8:30 AM

^ Oh, oops! Calm it, if I would've known that I wouldn't have complained XD

Oh, since it looks like she's wearing some sort of... bone-like thing (?) I'd say she'll be ground-type.

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2013 8:31 AM

Mega Formes aside, at least a Gogoat pre-evo is confirmed, and we now know this gen's Pikachu clone, which would certainly do a better job at countering Dragon types than other clones, including Pikachu himself (though Marill's debatable), who have to rely on HP Ice to hit them. I hope the rabbit Pokémon evolves into a Jackalope to differentiate itself from Buneary.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 8:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowdrop (Post 7773786)
^ Oh, oops! Calm it, if I would've known that I wouldn't have complained XD

Oh, since it looks like she's wearing some sort of... bone-like thing (?) I'd say she'll be ground-type.

Actually it's a cycling helmet, but it does have an odd bone shape.

Perriechu August 8th, 2013 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7773778)
Also, no one's talking about the gym leader, people, what type of gym leader do you think she'll be?

She could be the 8th leader? And use a nice roster of mega formes.

Or maybe it isn't just final evolution Pokemon who get them so she could be like the 3rd idk

SkyRyder August 8th, 2013 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7773778)
Also, no one's talking about the gym leader, people, what type of gym leader do you think she'll be?

I'm getting a fighting/normal/fairy vibe from her. Looks fit, I can't see anything obvious about her aesthetics, and fairy just because. Might be unexpected, but since she does specialize in the arts of "Mega" Pokemon, she might also use them? Who knows, maybe all of the gym leaders' final Pokemon are in their "Mega" form, or will transform into them during battle.

BubbleBeams August 8th, 2013 8:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7773734)
Well I certainly like this new feature already, I mean, it's still well within the realms of Pokémon, and basically confirms the genetics theme everyone was wanting.

Actually that's a very good point and I'm glad you brought that up because I didn't even think about that.
I guess one of the reasons why I'm slighty iffy about it is because, as others have stated, it seems like it might be kind of digimon-esque. But then, it may not end up being like that all. It's still too early to tell. I'm not opposed to it by any means, but I'm not sure I'm super excited either. lol Some of the Megaforms we've seen so far look pretty cool though.

metalhand August 8th, 2013 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7773782)
People...ITS NOT LOCALIZED YET! "Mega Form" is JAPANESE ONLY SO FAR. Stop complaining about the name that isn't even translated. Wait for our official translated versions THEN complain...sheesh.

since they include mewtwo awakened form as a mega form
so the mega forms will be called awakened forms

Mujahid August 8th, 2013 8:52 AM

My God, I hope this is a bad dream.This is absurd. I have never 'hated' anything like this since stunfisk !

Aradiamara August 8th, 2013 8:53 AM

I dont know how to feel about this. Im okay with the idea of final evolutions getting a mega form like lucario, but Mawile and Absol could just get evolved forms as easily, and also give it some more competitive room. And then Blaziken. If Blaziken is getting a megaform, id have to assume some other starters are too. Maybe just the 3 hoenn starters, but thats still pretty dumb. I don't HATE it like some of you, I just think they could have handled this mega form idea a lot better (as in, don't include blaziken unless you'll include every starter, which I doubt)

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 8:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mujahid (Post 7773863)
My God, I hope this is a bad dream.This is absurd. I have never 'hated' anything like this since stunfisk !

Settle down. They aren't THAT bad (like Stunfisk I mean xD).
This was definitely a surprise...when I woke up I had to make sure I wasn't dreaming because some of the Megas look like Pokémon I've dreamed of.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by metalhand (Post 7773844)
since they include mewtwo awakened form as a mega form
so the mega forms will be called awakened forms

Maybe. Awakened Form isn't official either. That was a Fan dub since the Japanese title for the movie was Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening. The official site never gave Mewtwo a name.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 9:10 AM

I'm honestly still leaning to fake for 2 simple reasons.

1. Serebii has not updated it's pages with the 3 new Pokemon. It is always on top of that.
2. I have not even seen a picture of this new Gym leader.

I mean, if we got a new gym leader, don't you think that there would at least be a picture? I know this Mega thing is supposed to be the scoop of the century but, I think that a whole new gym leader would get more than just a mention. I don't know, maybe it's denial but this still feels fake.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:11 AM

Irc the rumors called it Éclair forme. Not sure if that'll be the names for all of them.

I wonder if these are true evolutions. Or maybe just in battle evolutions and transform back to their normal stages after battle due to the immense energy it takes to use such a stage (that could be their justification) that no Pokémon can stay in it so they devolve until the next time they have to use it.

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Originally Posted by Austin1395 (Post 7773912)
I'm honestly still leaning to fake for 2 simple reasons.

1. Serebii has not updated it's pages with the 3 new Pokemon. It is always on top of that.
2. I have not even seen a picture of this new Gym leader.

I mean, if we got a new gym leader, don't you think that there would at least be a picture? I know this Mega thing is supposed to be the scoop of the century but, I think that a whole new gym leader would get more than just a mention. I don't know, maybe it's denial but this still feels fake.

Serebii does have a picture of the new gym leader. She's the girl with the ponytails and bicycle helmet.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 9:21 AM

Nevermind, both things have been updated.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin1395 (Post 7773912)
I'm honestly still leaning to fake for 2 simple reasons.

1. Serebii has not updated it's pages with the 3 new Pokemon. It is always on top of that.
2. I have not even seen a picture of this new Gym leader.

I mean, if we got a new gym leader, don't you think that there would at least be a picture? I know this Mega thing is supposed to be the scoop of the century but, I think that a whole new gym leader would get more than just a mention. I don't know, maybe it's denial but this still feels fake.

1. Yes they did. The new Pokemon are in the new Pokemon page.
2. She's posted on Serebii's main page. She hasn't been added to the Gym Leader page yet, but she will be. They need time to update.

http://serebii.net/corocoro8135.jpg

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773918)
Irc the rumors called it Éclair forme. Not sure if that'll be the names for all of them.

I wonder if these are true evolutions. Or maybe just in battle evolutions and transform back to their normal stages after battle due to the immense energy it takes to use such a stage (that could be their justification) that no Pokémon can stay in it so they devolve until the next time they have to use it.

I dunno. Only one source says that they are Battle only so far. It would be kinda a waste not to be able to have them hold other items in place of the Mega Stone or what ever Iconic items they get. Though if they need iconic items and the Mega Stone, I don't think they'll be battle only forms. We may be able to switch them to a semi-permanent state like with Giratina, but if we remove the item they revert.



The Gym leader is wearing Roller Derby gear. Its a Female only sport where teams race around a circular ring. You get points based on when you cross the finish line and where your partners were. So you can come in first, but if your partners come in after the other team you can still lose the race. Its also full contact sport where the women can hit one another if they get close enough~

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 9:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin1395 (Post 7773912)
I'm honestly still leaning to fake for 2 simple reasons.

1. Serebii has not updated it's pages with the 3 new Pokemon. It is always on top of that.
2. I have not even seen a picture of this new Gym leader.

I mean, if we got a new gym leader, don't you think that there would at least be a picture? I know this Mega thing is supposed to be the scoop of the century but, I think that a whole new gym leader would get more than just a mention. I don't know, maybe it's denial but this still feels fake.

Um the 3 brand new mon and gym leader DO have pictures and they are all on Serebii, have you not been hitting F5?

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 9:23 AM

Please let that mawile "mega form" be an evolution.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Clawvile (Post 7773935)
Please let that mawile "mega form" be an evolution.

Everything points to no. Sorry dude. If what Suicune says is true, these forms only appear while in battle. There are also possibly iconic items needed to be held for them to change so they may just be form changes classified as special evolutions.

Either route we end up walking, none of these six are true evolutions.

SkyRyder August 8th, 2013 9:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7773940)
Everything points to no. Sorry dude. If what Suicune says is true, these forms only appear while in battle. There are also possibly iconic items needed to be held for them to change so they may just be form changes classified as special evolutions.

Either route we end up walking, none of these six are true evolutions.

Well, if a hold item is all they need, then I guess my assumption of them being completely OP in competitive battling might be wrong, since they must sacrifice a hold item like Choice Scarf, Lefties, etc. in order to transform. Seems fair, I guess. I just wonder what their stats will be like, if they are expected to change at all, or if they are just given incredibly amazing abilities. I'm expecting about +5 to +15 in each stat, depending on the Pokemon.

JP August 8th, 2013 9:43 AM

I think these are pretty damn cool. It is a shame that some of these originally solo Pokemon didn't get real evolutions, but I guess this is their way of keeping it like that while also giving them more fire power. I'm also totally guessing that the starters will have "mega-evolutions", much like Blaziken and probably a few other old starters.

Lucario and Ampharos' look pretty sweet. Good 'improvement' of their designs, from what I can see.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:50 AM

I sure hope Fennekin can "evolve" after it's third stage into a Mega evolution.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 9:56 AM

I am hoping for a MegaEmpoleon, Empoleon is my favorite starter in most cases so really hoping we get one.

JP August 8th, 2013 9:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773974)
I sure hope Fennekin can "evolve" after it's third stage into a Mega evolution.

I feel like if this isn't something that's specifically special to pre-Gen6 Pokemon, the new starters would be prime opportunities for this new form of evolution. Might be totally wrong, but totally feel like they'll get these new evolutions. I really do wonder how they'll work though. As soon as the battles start, do they just 'evolve' much like Castform's formes during different weather conditions? What about their stats? I mean, I feel like they need to get some massively jacked upgrades to their stats for them to be only available during battles and with specific items?

Definitely can't wait to hear more about them. Interesting and totally unexpected. Wonder how many more other Pokemon will get these evolutions.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 10:02 AM

Bulbapedia is "Confirming" that the Megas are in battle only, so 2 out of 3 major news sites say its battle only forms.

Course Bulbapedia is also holding a discussion about how this will bring back moves like Trick and Knock off....I think they are completely forgetting that in gen 4 2 Pokemon had Item specific Forms and they are protected from losing these items.

I feel that id these are battle forms, they'll get the same protection that Arceus and Giratina have so you cannot take the items off while in battle and nullify the form change.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774010)
Bulbapedia is "Confirming" that the Megas are in battle only, so 2 out of 3 major news sites say its battle only forms.

Course Bulbapedia is also holding a discussion about how this will bring back moves like Trick and Knock off....I think they are completely forgetting that in gen 4 2 Pokemon had Item specific Forms and they are protected from losing these items.

I feel that id these are battle forms, they'll get the same protection that Arceus and Giratina have so you cannot take the items off while in battle and nullify the form change.

Same here. Unless Gf sees them as been OP enough to justify the knocking item off to nerf them, however that'll beg the question as to why they even made them (well six of the five as Mawile is far from OP) xD.


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