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Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7773841)
I think the main reason he did not include them is because we do not know if they are just forms or evolutions. They called Mewtwo form a new pokemon, but then said ti was a form.

And now the Mewtwo form is considered an "Evolution" So in a sense its still a new Pokemon with a potential new name.

classiccartoonsftw August 8th, 2013 9:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Clawvile (Post 7773737)
Well.. I am not much of a fan of this idea. Seriously gamefreak , Starter pokemon?! What about hoenn remakes? This "mega stone" better not be obtainable in the hoenn remakes. Something tells me this might be a joke though.
I'd rather have that mawile mega form as a evolution for it. Same for absol. Other than that, the only thing wrong with it is blaziken mega form.

I completely agree with you. And if this is indeed a joke, I'll be really happy.

Famon August 8th, 2013 9:11 AM

I believe that All starter Pokemon should get Mega Evolution .
Why should Only Blaziken blessed with it ?

Mijak25 August 8th, 2013 9:11 AM

Ok well forsure Blaziken would not be the only starter to get a mega form, that would be a slap in the face not only Swampert and Sceptile, but too 5 other generations of starters that we know and love,! I would Love too see what a MegaFeraligatr looks like, or MegaBlastoise,! Charzard would hope fully get that dragon type most everybody wants,! And I'm very interested to see how a tank of a Torterra would look like too,! But what other pokemon would look badass as a mega,? Gyrados, Pinsir, Hydreigon,?

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Famon (Post 7773915)
I believe that All starter Pokemon should get Mega Evolution .
Why should Only Blaziken blessed with it ?

Because Blaziken is loved more than the other starters, used more, and worshiped more than the mudkip overlords.

and Gamefreak loves to troll us...which is possibly the most credible remark.

crystalzapdos August 8th, 2013 9:19 AM

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Originally Posted by iRyahn (Post 7773874)
I really doubt they will make Mega's for all Pokemon though.. there is confirmed to be over 700 Pokemon now. If they don't account for pre-evolutions that is still a LOT of Pokemon to give Megas. Probably like.. 300-400? It's like releasing 400-500 new Pokemon in one Gen when you count the actual new Pokemon.

I'm sure only final forms will get them. So Magikarp wouldn't get one, but Gyrados does.

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Originally Posted by iRyahn (Post 7773874)
I really think there will just be a few lucky/favorited Pokemon.

No. If this was the case, Mawile, Absol, and Amphardos wouldn't get one.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 9:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalzapdos (Post 7773927)
I'm sure only final forms will get them. So Magikarp wouldn't get one, but Gyrados does.



No. If this was the case, Mawile, Absol, and Amphardos wouldn't get one.

Ampharos and Absol are fan favorites though. Mawile is really the only odd man out.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 9:32 AM

I think, that Mega-evolutions won't be as extensive as everyone thinks. They said that the first one will be an event thing. So, maybe all of them will be events, and each one will be designed for megaevolution. The coding will be in the game, but the pokemon won't be obtainable normally.
This mega stone, might be a one-shot item. They could just be, sort of like legendary versions of normal pokemon. Stronger, better, but rare, as they would be event exclusive. And like many other pokemon of that sort they might also be tournament banned. As well as in-game banned from battle facilities.
If it's like that, then this mega-evolution thing could work out well. Otherwise, it won't go well.
They might have something come up in the series, as well as something in-game, like a built-in event, that talks about how Mega-Evolution was discovered, and that only under certain conditions can it occur.

The only real problem I have with this, is Lucario's type change. Lucario has always been a dragon-slayer, due to the fact that it could learn powerful dragon and ice moves, AND was dragon resistant thanks to it's steel typing. Now it'll be weak to water, which is a LOT more common than fire. And it loses its poison immunity. And it's best ability, is inner focus, adaptability isn't all that great.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7773945)
I think, that Mega-evolutions won't be as extensive as everyone thinks. They said that the first one will be an event thing. So, maybe all of them will be events, and each one will be designed for megaevolution. The coding will be in the game, but the pokemon won't be obtainable normally.
This mega stone, might be a one-shot item. They could just be, sort of like legendary versions of normal pokemon. Stronger, better, but rare, as they would be event exclusive. And like many other pokemon of that sort they might also be tournament banned. As well as in-game banned from battle facilities.
If it's like that, then this mega-evolution thing could work out well. Otherwise, it won't go well.

The only real problem I have with this, is Lucario's type change. Lucario has always been a dragon-slayer, due to the fact that it could learn powerful dragon and ice moves, AND was dragon resistant thanks to it's steel typing. Now it'll be weak to water, which is a LOT more common than fire. And it loses its poison immunity. And it's best ability, is inner focus, adaptability isn't all that great.

Lucario still has the same type, the Fire/Fighting was a typo by Serebii.

I don't think all the Mega stages will be fan favorites...now if so then Rayquaza should get one as it got voted the favorite mascot back in Gen V...

Munchlax11 August 8th, 2013 9:40 AM

I am pretty excited about this. I hope they are actual evolutions instead of forms though. I hope there are a lot more pokemon that get "Megaevolutions", but I don't see why they just give these pokemon regular evos. I don't get the need to make it "mega". But I'm sure once we learn more it will make sense.

jellotime91 August 8th, 2013 9:42 AM

This... Is not cool.

I'm sorry but this is the first thing from Gen 6 that I'm honestly just disgusted by. Maybe I'm overreacting but I find this so appalling and just filthy and wrong.

I am literally feeling sick to my stomach about this. Just looking at these "mega" forms is so utterly disturbing to me. I wish this was fake but I have a strong inkling that this is actually real, because I've never seen Serebii post something fake (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

TreeKangaroo August 8th, 2013 9:43 AM

Apparently the new gym leader knows the secret to megas

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7773957)
This... Is not cool.

I'm sorry but this is the first thing from Gen 6 that I'm honestly just disgusted by. Maybe I'm overreacting but I find this so appalling and just filthy and wrong.

I am literally feeling sick to my stomach about this. Just looking at these "mega" forms is so utterly disturbing to me. I wish this was fake but I have a strong inkling that this is actually real, because I've never seen Serebii post something fake (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

They have once...they posted a fake picture of an grass owl Pokémon last generation.

zlip August 8th, 2013 9:48 AM

HAHAHAAHAH You're killing me HAHAHAHA

....wait you're serious?!?

Insanity aside, this raises a lot of questions.
-Will all Pokémon/Starters be receiving this?
-Will it have any drawbacks like EX Pokémon in the TCG?
-Are they going to get better names rather than just "Mega(Pokémon name)"?
-Can you de-evolve them back? (I would have liked to seen this awhile ago)
-Will this tie in with the plot? (PLEASE focus on and keep doing better plotlines like Gen 5's)

Definitely interesting but for now it seems like something for the purpose of drawing in new gamers with promises of "SuperAwesomeMegaHugeExtreme Beasts of Pure Power!!!" that kids love.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 9:49 AM

They can't 100% confirm something is true because there was a CoroCoro cover. Really?!? There are many talented artists out there that can whip up a reproduction of the corocoro aesthetic. I won't believe a word until the 11th/12th when the issue is released. Or until their is a gameplay video.

Rayquazaa August 8th, 2013 9:52 AM

I just don't get why Mewtwo has a mega form. Why would one of the most powerful Pokemon in the game need to have a superior form..

metalhand August 8th, 2013 9:54 AM

oh in the name of arceus!
only now i notice that ampharos gonna be electric/dragon
a long pass ince i used it(in fire red), now if mega forms are true i definatly gonna use it!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:55 AM

I think this describes the fandom pretty well right now "The new "Mega evolutions" have pretty much made the Pokemon fandom explode. Some are already crying Ruined Forever while others love it and talking about what other Pokemon they want to have this new mechanic. But most as of now are just confused and want more information. "

This is the most base breaking event I've seen out of all fandom's I'm part of...hopefully people will get used to them.

Mana August 8th, 2013 9:56 AM

I really hope that ALL starters and then extra Pokémon get this evolution. I mean, can you imagine a Mega-Sceptile? Or a Mega-Ninetails (Fire/Ghost anyone?).


It would be so awesome.

jellotime91 August 8th, 2013 9:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773965)
They have once...they posted a fake picture of an grass owl Pokémon last generation.

Ok... *starts crossing fingers* ...

I really hope this is fake. :pink_pissed:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 9:58 AM

This new Pika clone has got to be my least favorite...oh well at least it looks more like a Raichu clone than Pikachu just how the Hoenn Pika clone duo resembles Pichu somewhat more than Pika.

Scarecr0wFixatioN August 8th, 2013 9:59 AM

The only thing I'm hoping, is that mega evo's are more similar to evolution, to that of formes. And I'm hoping we get a ton of unannounced mega-evolutions in the game,that we didn't know about prior to release. I want megahoundoom :<

WishCookie August 8th, 2013 9:59 AM

What the **** is this ****.... Just sayin'. Gg go for it GF, time to copy Digimon if this is true.

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773987)
This is the most base breaking event I've seen out of all fandom's I'm part of...hopefully people will get used to them.

I hated these things at first, but now I'm really looking forward to seeing what other Pokés (if any) will get a Mega form. It's funny seeing everyone's different reactions.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:01 AM

I love Ampharos so if this is true (stating the cover is proof isn't 100 percent convincing) I'll use it's Mega evolution. Heck I'll use all of them. I love all six Pokémon in fact. Lucario's Mega looks like a fake evolution I've seen of it before...one has to wonder if these are in fact real if GF has been searching the net for ideas...

BubbleBeams August 8th, 2013 10:02 AM

I don't understand why everyone's getting up in arms over Blaziken specifically, because it's a starter Pokemon, and stating why don't other starter Pokemon get this?
Surely if Blaziken is getting this, the other starters will as well.

We've only seen a few Pokemon with this feature for the sake of introducing the feature. Surely there will be more Pokemon who also get to have a MegaForm.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 10:03 AM

Bulbapedia is "Confirming" that the Megas are in battle only, so 2 out of 3 major news sites say its battle only forms.

Course Bulbapedia is also holding a discussion about how this will bring back moves like Trick and Knock off....I think they are completely forgetting that in gen 4 2 Pokemon had Item specific Forms and they are protected from losing these items.

I feel that id these are battle forms, they'll get the same protection that Arceus and Giratina have so you cannot take the items off while in battle and nullify the form change.

pedrito3_poke August 8th, 2013 10:06 AM

Hmmm... this might sound a bit silly, but... where are the pictures? o.O
Oops, here they are, nevermind ;)

Dter ic August 8th, 2013 10:06 AM

Wait MewTwo gets a Mega form? o.o Is this the TGC equivilant of EX version of MewTwo? D:

Some more tweets by Bulbapedia say that Mega forms are temporary and only occur when the Pokemon capable of Mega form hold a specific item, which should balence things out.

pokerex August 8th, 2013 10:09 AM

To be honest, i didn't know how to react to this at first. But now i've had some time to think about it. And IMO this is actually the best news so far.
I mean, we finally have some super powerfull cool looking pokemon.

Isn't this way better than a cotton candy pokemon or a flamingo without legs?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BubbleBeams (Post 7774011)
I don't understand why everyone's getting up in arms over Blaziken specifically, because it's a starter Pokemon, and stating why don't other starter Pokemon get this?
Surely if Blaziken is getting this, the other starters will as well.

We've only seen a few Pokemon with this feature for the sake of introducing the feature. Surely there will be more Pokemon who also get to have a MegaForm.

And yet no one is saying much about Mewtwo who is a legendary...

metalhand August 8th, 2013 10:09 AM

since this corocoro was leaked and the mega forms idea revealed, i was thinking which pokemon(exept those which has been revealed) i would like the most to get mega forms.
i'm also interested to know-which pokemon you are prefer the most to get mega evolution?

jellotime91 August 8th, 2013 10:09 AM

After looking at the scans again and comparing to last month... I have to call them into question.

I looked at last month's scans and I have to say, that rainbow gradient text sticks out like a sore thumb. Also, you'd think they would show something with that DNA symbol somewhere, but it's nowhere to be found in these scans - which is odd. This is supposed to be the final big scoop before the games launch - "the scoop of the century" as teased in the August issue. You'd think they would go balls out and show the DNA stuff and everything.

In the video they released which shows Mewtwo's Awakened form (also never called "Mega", btw), it has that little DNA symbol above it.

Now I'm starting to think these are indeed fake.

Also should be noted:
The gameplay screenshots are all much more dark and blurry than the rest of the pictures. Could it be because it's much more difficult to make these look authentic than Sugimori-style artwork?

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dter ic (Post 7774020)
Wait MewTwo gets a Mega form? o.o Is this the TGC equivilant of EX version of MewTwo? D:

Some more tweets by Bulbapedia say that Mega forms are temporary and only occur when the Pokemon capable of Mega form hold a specific item, which should balence things out.

Balance is a very finicky word to use. In some cases, they may be too over powered that even without other hold items, it still doesn't balance out. In others, they may be underwhelmed to the point that no one would use them because they'd rather use the base form with a different item.

There is also the issue that we may not be able to knock them out of their battle forms what with two Pokemon that rely on Battle items for form changes are item protected from attacks that remove said items. We don't know if these items give a boost to the pokemon either. So it has a lot of potential to be over powered and broken, especially in the case of Lucario and Blaziken.

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 10:13 AM

Someone may have mentioned this, but along with Pokéjungle and Bulbapedia, Serebii also says that they evolve in battle.

Mana August 8th, 2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774013)
Bulbapedia is "Confirming" that the Megas are in battle only, so 2 out of 3 major news sites say its battle only forms.

Course Bulbapedia is also holding a discussion about how this will bring back moves like Trick and Knock off....I think they are completely forgetting that in gen 4 2 Pokemon had Item specific Forms and they are protected from losing these items.

I feel that id these are battle forms, they'll get the same protection that Arceus and Giratina have so you cannot take the items off while in battle and nullify the form change.


This is upsetting :( I would rather they were some kind of special evolution, rather than a form change - especially one which is just another 'OH LOOK STICK THIS ITEM ON IT'. If it only changes in battle, only with this item, then it is just an alternate form.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:21 AM

So it may be as I said before, that they turn back after battle due to strain or something. In a way these "evolutions" are like temporary mutations for battle purposes. I guess one could say they are an exaggeration of evolution against predators, and out of battle they devolve due to lack of fighting.

pedrito3_poke August 8th, 2013 10:28 AM

Hehe, I guess I was right when I said that the Scoop Of The Century would be something that we aren't even supposed to guess... because I would have never guessed this one, ever...

But seriously, this sounds fake as hell. I'm having a really hard time believing this is true...
Tbh, I've always been pretty broad-minded in what concerns changes in Pokémon games, but is too much.
I've always been against the people who said "Pokémon looks like Digimon now", but now they do have a point.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Serebii
These are special features of Pokémon, different to evolutions and forms, that have your Pokémon Mega Evolve in battle into these appearances.

Seriously? Burst Mode, anyone?

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Pokémon copying Digimon, as long as they copy the good stuff... but this? I don't like it. I'm seriously hoping that this is fake (even though I don't think that will happen, now that so many sites are confirming it), but if it isn't... let's just hope it grows on me...

ppooookkkkkkk August 8th, 2013 10:31 AM

In my opinion this megaform sh#t is worked like this:

Player uses the the new battle item meganizer.
It transforms pokemon into mega forms.
After battle it returns to normal.

Or:
When a pokemon drastically raises it's most powerful stat it tranforms into mega form.
After battle it goes back to normal.


Personally I hope it's fake or at least battle only as then everyone will make their Pokèmon s 'Mega'.

jellotime91 August 8th, 2013 10:34 AM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/blwflmvy0hufwz7/mewtwodna.jpg

Here's Awakened Mewtwo with the DNA symbol over him.

I just can't believe they'd explain how he turns into this new form without even using this symbol once or mentioning DNA anywhere. I think this is fake, guys.

And BTW no it's not an attack he's using against Xerneas, the clip they showed of Xerneas after is his own move Geo Control. They tried to trick us for some reason.

JP August 8th, 2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7774089)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/blwflmvy0hufwz7/mewtwodna.jpg

Here's Awakened Mewtwo with the DNA symbol over him.

I just can't believe they'd explain how he turns into this new form without even using this symbol once or mentioning DNA anywhere. I think this is fake, guys.

And BTW no it's not an attack he's using against Xerneas, the clip they showed of Xerneas after is his own move Geo Control. They tried to trick us for some reason.

It's not fake dude lol. It's being confirmed as real everywhere, as well with the cover of the issue leaking.

pedrito3_poke August 8th, 2013 10:38 AM

Well, this certainly reminds me of Pokémon FR. I just never immagined they could turn out to be true...

Blaziken FR
Absol FR
Ampharos FR
Lucario FR

Mana August 8th, 2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellotime91 (Post 7774089)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/blwflmvy0hufwz7/mewtwodna.jpg

Here's Awakened Mewtwo with the DNA symbol over him.

I just can't believe they'd explain how he turns into this new form without even using this symbol once or mentioning DNA anywhere. I think this is fake, guys.

And BTW no it's not an attack he's using against Xerneas, the clip they showed of Xerneas after is his own move Geo Control. They tried to trick us for some reason.

Whilst I think there is a possibility of it being fake, I'm not sure what your argument with this Mewtwo stuff is.

That doesn't even look like a DNA symbol... it's just a funky shape - not a double helix.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pedrito3_poke (Post 7774072)
Hehe, I guess I was right when I said that the Scoop Of The Century would be something that we aren't even supposed to guess... because I would have never guessed this one, ever...

But seriously, this sounds fake as hell. I'm having a really hard time believing this is true...
Tbh, I've always been pretty broad-minded in what concerns changes in Pokémon games, but is too much.
I've always been against the people who said "Pokémon looks like Digimon now", but now they do have a point.
Seriously? Burst Mode, anyone?

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Pokémon copying Digimon, as long as they copy the good stuff... but this? I don't like it. I'm seriously hoping that this is fake (even though I don't think that will happen, now that so many sites are confirming it), but if it isn't... let's just hope it grows on me...

That's what I thought after seeing them, Burst mode.
That was one thing I liked about Data squad and like wise I like these Pokémon "Burst modes" I mean Mega modes...lol and Kyurem's forms were 'Hybrids'

Legendary Silke August 8th, 2013 10:43 AM

I, for one, welcome our new Mega Pokémon in our battles. Actually, I can't wait to see all the Mega Pokémon for all the old stuff. Who knows, maybe it'll make my favourites even better at what they do.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 10:44 AM

As someone said, everything has been confirmed to be true and we have already seen Gogoat pre evo in a trailer/screenshot.

The Megalutions look amazing and as long as they are just new forms, I am good. I just really hope for a MegaEmpoleon.

Mana August 8th, 2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7774111)
As someone said, everything has been confirmed to be true and we have already seen Gogoat pre evo in a trailer/screenshot.


/Devil's Advocate

Just because we know about the baby goat (or we think we do), from previous trailers, doesn't confirm this to be true. It would be quiet easy for someone to make a baby-forme of Gogoat.

Really, we can't confirm this is 100% true until either an official nintendo update or corocoro hits the shelves officially.

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 10:49 AM

If this turns out to be false, then we got trolled hard. I mean, this thread received over 130 replies within a few hours...

Mana August 8th, 2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jsziede (Post 7774123)
If this turns out to be false, then we got trolled hard. I mean, this thread received over 130 replies within a few hours...

Judging by the style of the pages, and the coverage in general, it is most likely true. But yeah, websites have been fooled before - it could happen.

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773996)
This new Pika clone has got to be my least favorite...oh well at least it looks more like a Raichu clone than Pikachu just how the Hoenn Pika clone duo resembles Pichu somewhat more than Pika.

Well we needed a Pikawannabe at some point.
I think it's pretty cute though.

Keiran August 8th, 2013 10:56 AM

I....what. Regular Mawile has 85 base attack. With huge power thats the equivalent of like 220 base attack (590 total attack). WHAT. I really hope its mega form has lowered attack.

Like..the designs are nice and the concept is...okay....but if its just an excuse to make certain Pokemon overpowered...no...I'm not behind that. Adaptability + Fighting STAB...really Gamefreak?

Andrew August 8th, 2013 10:57 AM

I'm interested to see how this plays out, but I'm also question what the motive behind this was. It's a strange decision, but I hope it turns out well.

The prefix is awful though. If that's actually in the names I'll be nicknaming for sure...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 7774128)
Judging by the style of the pages, and the coverage in general, it is most likely true. But yeah, websites have been fooled before - it could happen.

Yeah, I still remember that ugly flower owl...we got fooled into believe was real last gen...

I hope they're real though.
After hearing that they are battle only and need items to do so fan seem to have calmed down somewhat. Hopefully this will turn out like the Gen V haters.

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 10:59 AM

This guy.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/a/af/Spr_2c_083_s.gif
Mega evolution.
Now.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Clawvile (Post 7774149)

Absolutely, or at least give it a normal evolution...

I'm looking forward to seeing a Mega Sceptile...

JP August 8th, 2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7774139)
I....what. Regular Mawile has 85 base attack. With huge power thats the equivalent of like 220 base attack (590 total attack). WHAT. I really hope its mega form has lowered attack.

Like..the designs are nice and the concept is...okay....but if its just an excuse to make certain Pokemon overpowered...no...I'm not behind that. Adaptability + Fighting STAB...really Gamefreak?

I'm guessing they'll have a rather certain jacked up stat and then another very low stat for something else, to try and balance them out. I think it's still too early to decided whether or not they'll be overpowered.

Wobbu August 8th, 2013 11:04 AM

If anyone is deserving of a Megalution, it should be this guy.

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/321.gif

:3

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsziede (Post 7774155)
If anyone is deserving of a Megalution, it should be this guy.

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/321.gif

:3

It could Mega evolve into a Giant skeleton whale with the Water/Ghost typing...

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:06 AM

So I guess the megas are pseudo s

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7773954)
Lucario still has the same type, the Fire/Fighting was a typo by Serebii.

I don't think all the Mega stages will be fan favorites...now if so then Rayquaza should get one as it got voted the favorite mascot back in Gen V...


I highly doubt Legendaries will get mega evolutions.
And I'm glad...Lucario will still be a dragonslayer then.

These new Megas might also have expanded movesets, of course, almost all pokemon will, aside from the choice few...Since they'll of course be releasing new moves, and new tms.
I wonder what moves will be TM and what moves will be Move Tutor...but that's a different thing.

Back to the point at hand will the movesets be expanded beyond the introduction of new moves for megas. They're supposed to be powerful versions, so why not?

And I just noticed the new thing about Mid-Battle transformations. I don't really think burst mode, as in essence, all digivolutions are pretty much mid battle in the anime.
Now, it's more like the games, where normally you can only digivolve at the farm. But, you have Evolution items that allow you to temporarily digivolve in the middle of a battle. That's what it's copying.

So then, what will be the triggers? How will these items work? Will it be some sort of, Super Saiyan transformation, triggering at critical? Or do you have to have the stone in your item bag and USE it on the pokemon? What then, will the stone be a one-shot item, or will it be continuous use? Will the stones all be specialized, working only for that species of pokemon? Or do you just need one stone for all the ones capable of Mega-Evolving?

Oshamaru August 8th, 2013 11:07 AM

I...don't really know how to feel about this. I'm not hating on Gen 6 instantly just for this but...It...seems....weird...
Umm. Seriously, I don't know how to react to this. As long as they can activate just for battle or something like that, I'm fine with it.

But maybe all this is related to the DNA at the logos...Seems the game will focus on splicing.

Eh, some of them grew on me pretty quickly now.

JP August 8th, 2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7774160)
I highly doubt Legendaries will get mega evolutions.
And I'm glad...Lucario will still be a dragonslayer then.

Can't be too sure actually. Mewtwo got a mega-evolution it seems.

jellotime91 August 8th, 2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwiftSign (Post 7774098)
Whilst I think there is a possibility of it being fake, I'm not sure what your argument with this Mewtwo stuff is.

That doesn't even look like a DNA symbol... it's just a funky shape - not a double helix.

That is not just a "funky shape". Watch the eshop trailer. It is very clearly the same symbol that is featured in the Japanese game logos.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oshamaru (Post 7774161)
I...don't really know how to feel about this. I'm not hating on Gen 6 instantly just for this but...It...doesn't seem...like Pokemon...

Umm. Seriously, I don't know how to react to this. As long as they can activate just for battle or something like that, I'm fine with it.

But maybe all this is related to the DNA at the logos...Seems the game will focus on splicing.

Actually they're more like mutations, splicing is more of what happened with Kyurem's formes.

I think Rowan should appear this generation as he's the evolution expert...this sounds like something he could investigate, maybe he appears post game and asks to see one of the Megaevolutions and gives us a rare item for each one we show him.

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:13 AM

Mega Mew. Mew needs to be stronger.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 11:15 AM

Pokejungle confirms the trademark for "Mega Evolution". No confirmation for anything from the X/Y official site.

Keiran August 8th, 2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7774154)
I'm guessing they'll have a rather certain jacked up stat and then another very low stat for something else, to try and balance them out. I think it's still too early to decided whether or not they'll be overpowered.

If you're suggesting that they're gonna be Shuckle 2.0s, then that really makes this whole big scoop rather pointless. Therefore I don't agree.

Anyways has this confirmed by an official source? Serebii is reliable, but not perfect or official.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:16 AM

Mega Deoxys...one for each of it's formes...or just one for it's Normal forme...

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:17 AM

Tho not believing it until one apears in a trailer. This could also mean if some pokemon are getting megas we might reach into the 900's maybe 1000's

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7774163)
Can't be too sure actually. Mewtwo got a mega-evolution it seems.

Mewtwo could very well be the exception, due to his Origin. Depending on how and what mega-evolution is depicted as, it could be some sort of Genetic alteration thing. Sort of like the Rage devices, but bigger. Of course, if that's how it is, there will be one more legendary that would be more likely to get a mega form, the already Shapeshifting Deoxys.

There might be a select few Legendaries, maybe one or two from each gen? Who knows...

Everyone says it's copying digimon. I think it's more like DBZ. Fully Evolved pokemon going Super Poké.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7774180)
If you're suggesting that they're gonna be Shuckle 2.0s, then that really makes this whole big scoop rather pointless. Therefore I don't agree.

Anyways has this confirmed by an official source? Serebii is reliable, but not perfect or official.

No official source has yet confirmed this. We probably won't get an official confirmation, or denial, from an official source until around the 12th.

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 11:21 AM

I really wish this can happen:

http://0.thumbs.4chan.org/vp/thumb/1375986294311s.jpg

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:21 AM

Megastones better be in game. And not just some events.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7774186)
Mewtwo could very well be the exception, due to his Origin. Depending on how and what mega-evolution is depicted as, it could be some sort of Genetic alteration thing. Sort of like the Rage devices, but bigger. Of course, if that's how it is, there will be one more legendary that would be more likely to get a mega form, the already Shapeshifting Deoxys.

There might be a select few Legendaries, maybe one or two from each gen? Who knows...

Everyone says it's copying digimon. I think it's more like DBZ. Fully Evolved pokemon going Super Poké.

Genesect is also another one that's likely to get one due to it's being revived and having been created as the ultimate weapon...however they didn't show it having one in the movie so chances are Genesect doesn't have one...

Mew also can get one. Maybe Eevee get's a Mega evolution only it turns dragon like (dragons are seen as the ultimate creature only behind the Quilin aka what Arceus is based off) and has the dragon typing and the ability multiscale.

blue August 8th, 2013 11:23 AM

Watch how make Fake Mega Pokémon" start to surface now ;)

Oshamaru August 8th, 2013 11:24 AM

Gogoat's pre-evo was kind of expected. Its simplicity works so well.
The Pika-clone is cute, but the color is too Raichu-ish.
I really like the rabbit...Ahhh, why can we only have six?! The only rabbit we had was Buneary, and even then it didn't look much like a bunny.

JP August 8th, 2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7774180)
If you're suggesting that they're gonna be Shuckle 2.0s, then that really makes this whole big scoop rather pointless. Therefore I don't agree.

Anyways has this confirmed by an official source? Serebii is reliable, but not perfect or official.

Perhaps, but I'm just not sure how they'd make them balanced if not for something similar to that. Maybe you can only have these evolutions for a select number of turns before they 'drain' their energy? I just don't really think they're trying to make them utterly overpowered. I think they're more interested in shaking things up a bit while still retaining some sort of balance. Then again, who knows... they might not give a crap about any sort of balance haha.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7774196)
Watch how make Fake Mega Pokémon" start to surface now ;)

Especially for third stage pokemon, and even before this there were fake evolutions for three stage Pokémon...now that'll increase, but they'll be calling them Megas.

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:27 AM

Mega mewtwo should have base stats equal to arceus

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oshamaru (Post 7774197)
Gogoat's pre-evo was kind of expected. Its simplicity works so well.
The Pika-clone is cute, but the color is too Raichu-ish.
I really like the rabbit...Ahhh, why can we only have six?! The only rabbit we had was Buneary, and even then it didn't look much like a bunny.

Azumarill shakes it's ears at you xD

The rabbit is my least favorite new mon right now in terms of appearance. I wish it were a black or white bunny...

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7774195)
Genesect is also another one that's likely to get one due to it's being revived and having been created as the ultimate weapon...however they didn't show it having one in the movie so chances are Genesect doesn't have one...

Mew also can get one. Maybe Eevee get's a Mega evolution only it turns dragon like (dragons are seen as the ultimate creature only behind the Quilin aka what Arceus is based off) and has the dragon typing and the ability multiscale.

Going with the DBZ reference...Genesect is CELL! :P

Well Eevee might get a dragon evolution without the use of a mega-form...it's been a long time coming. Two new eeveelutions, dragon and fairy....and the Megavee will be Dragon and Fairy...which will be like the Dark/Ghost typing, nigh on immortal. (Will Fairy be strong against at least one of these so we can finally have a weapon against them? XD)

I still wonder if these will be event exclusive/rares Such as, only THIS lucario can go mega. The forms itself built into the code of the game, but not the pokemon, and only the event ones have the mega code in them to allow transformation.

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 11:30 AM

Just speculating here, maybe Mega evos might be based on gods.

Megablaziken= God of fire
Megalucario= God of justice
Mega amphy= God of lightning
Megamawile= God of deception
Mega absol= God of disaster

Don't know names of gods although that I am talking about.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamebot (Post 7774202)
Mega mewtwo should have base stats equal to arceus

I'm thinking more Kyurem (BW formes) stats here. Now if it were to reach Arceus...Arceus should get's act and find a Arceus Knight stone and Mega evolve into a one thousand armed god with a 1000 bst...

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:31 AM

Mist stone all over again. :P.

droomph August 8th, 2013 11:32 AM

I'm not too sure on this new development, but I'm sure they'll figure out a way to make this more Pokémon-centered…

You guys are forgetting that you don't know the whole story…

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 11:32 AM

For the Mega Pokemon, I wanna say Pokemon with Form Changes already may not get a Mega Form. They'd have to make a Mega Form for each of the Form Changes so I doubt they'd do it for Pokemon with Form Changes already.

Cherrim, Rotom, Deoxys, Shaymin, Arceus, Unown, Castform, Wormadam and by association Mothim, Gastrodon, Giratina and by association Palkia and Dialga, Basculin, Darmanitan, Sawsbuck, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Kyurem and by association Reshiram and Zekrom since they are needed for the form change, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect.

These are what I see as the only ones that may not get Mega Evolution forms.

And am I the only one that sees this Mega Evolution as a way of saying that they Pokemon won't evolve. I mean Blaziken and Ampharos are obvious, but Absol, Mawile, and Lucario, them being final forms and getting these Mega Forms seems to say that Gamefreak doesn't intend to give real evolutions to them. I would kinda not want the Mega forms to spread to all Pokemon simply for the sake of leaving them open enough for future evolutions. If they tag the Mega forms its almost as if they are saying these will never evolve.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Clawvile (Post 7774210)
Just speculating here, maybe Mega evos might be based on gods.

Megablaziken= God of fire
Megalucario= God of justice
Mega amphy= God of lightning
Megamawile= God of deception
Mega absol= God of disaster

Don't know names of gods although that I am talking about.

Oh great, now you're making me think of those fake mon, Pokegods whom are fourth stage evolutions to three stage Pokémon...

JP August 8th, 2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7774207)
Going with the DBZ reference...Genesect is CELL! :P

Well Eevee might get a dragon evolution without the use of a mega-form...it's been a long time coming. Two new eeveelutions, dragon and fairy....and the Megavee will be Dragon and Fairy...which will be like the Dark/Ghost typing, nigh on immortal. (Will Fairy be strong against at least one of these so we can finally have a weapon against them? XD)

I still wonder if these will be event exclusive/rares Such as, only THIS lucario can go mega. The forms itself built into the code of the game, but not the pokemon, and only the event ones have the mega code in them to allow transformation.

Definitely interesting ideas. Eevee getting some sort of mega-evolution would make some sense considering it's relation to the whole evolution process. Maybe Eevee itself will get a mega-evolution without one of it's evolution's getting one, maybe making that a sort-of-second evolution for the generation.

As for only one certain Pokemon rather than all Pokemon of a species being able to mega-evolve, I'm not sure whether I like that or dislike that. On one hand, making it special to only one Pokemon of that specific species would make it a bit more special and 'cool', but on the other hand, making them all be able to mega-evolve would make the process a bit less annoying, which is always good in my eyes.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7774213)
I'm thinking more Kyurem (BW formes) stats here. Now if it were to reach Arceus...Arceus should get's act and find a Arceus Knight stone and Mega evolve into a one thousand armed god with a 1000 bst...

Arceus wouldn't turn into a thousand armed god
Arceus would turn into Chuck Norris....with a bst of Beard-fist.

Hmmm...another thought about the stone. Will it be artificial, or natural? Did someone make it, or was it found deep in a cave, protected by a Mega Pokemon, to be named at a later date?

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clawvile (Post 7774210)
Just speculating here, maybe Mega evos might be based on gods.

Megablaziken= God of fire
Megalucario= God of justice
Mega amphy= God of lightning
Megamawile= God of deception
Mega absol= God of disaster

Don't know names of gods although that I am talking about.

Morelike:

Mega Lucario = Bring this God to justice - behind bars!
Megablaziiken= This God should be fired!
Mega Mawile= Deception of a God
Mega Ampharos= A God struck by lightening
Mega Absol= Disaster of a God

Someone's obviously not a happy camper! :(

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7774135)
Well we needed a Pikawannabe at some point.
I think it's pretty cute though.

I was hoping they'd break the stupid clone tradition. Since they didn't I don't have much along the lines of them breaking the Fire/Fighting tradition now.

Its really freakin cute though. I wanna squish it. >.<

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774218)
For the Mega Pokemon, I wanna say Pokemon with Form Changes already may not get a Mega Form. They'd have to make a Mega Form for each of the Form Changes so I doubt they'd do it for Pokemon with Form Changes already.

Cherrim, Rotom, Deoxys, Shaymin, Arceus, Unown, Castform, Wormadam and by association Mothim, Gastrodon, Giratina and by association Palkia and Dialga, Basculin, Darmanitan, Sawsbuck, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Kyurem and by association Reshiram and Zekrom since they are needed for the form change, Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect.

These are what I see as the only ones that may not get Mega Evolution forms.

And am I the only one that sees this Mega Evolution as a way of saying that they Pokemon won't evolve. I mean Blaziken and Ampharos are obvious, but Absol, Mawile, and Lucario, them being final forms and getting these Mega Forms seems to say that Gamefreak doesn't intend to give real evolutions to them. I would kinda not want the Mega forms to spread to all Pokemon simply for the sake of leaving them open enough for future evolutions. If they tag the Mega forms its almost as if they are saying these will never evolve.

That implication came to me too. It seems like that may be the case or they'll have to recon the Mega evolutions to fit with the real evolutions if they were to ever give them any in future generations...

So with that in mind I'm hoping third stage Pokémon are the one's that mostly get them.

Now with Mega evolutions they could use this to give the Hoenn mascots Mega evolutions for the remakes and put them in the cover to attract attention...sort of like how Giratina forme made people buy Platinum Version and lesser so (due to being a sequel and not a third version/ remake of an old game) Kyurem formes made people buy Black 2 and White 2 versions.

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 11:39 AM

It would be kind of cool if eevee could evolve by having a mega stone temprorarly.
Something like megeon (Mega + eon)

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 7774223)
Definitely interesting ideas. Eevee getting some sort of mega-evolution would make some sense considering it's relation to the whole evolution process. Maybe Eevee itself will get a mega-evolution without one of it's evolution's getting one, maybe making that a sort-of-second evolution for the generation.

As for only one certain Pokemon rather than all Pokemon of a species being able to mega-evolve, I'm not sure whether I like that or dislike that. On one hand, making it special to only one Pokemon of that specific species would make it a bit more special and 'cool', but on the other hand, making them all be able to mega-evolve would make the process a bit less annoying, which is always good in my eyes.

First one the line of dragon and fairy etc. I think pokemon should make the remaining elements into fist moves, like Fire Punch and the like. Lucario used Dragon Punch, it was Super Effect, DRAGON SLAIN. (Personally I think they need some renaming to sound cooler, like Ice Punch could be Glacial Fist!)

Next, if they are event exclusive, that would definitely mean they'd be tournament banned and institute banned. But if they aren't specialized to one pokemon, that would make it more likely they'd be accepted in tournaments and in the in-game battle facilities. Which makes me think of yet another thing. What will this new region have? I mean unova had the Battle Subway and Black Tower/Whitetree Hollow...can it beat those?

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 11:43 AM

The only problem I see with the implication of giving a Pokemon a Mega form to signify that it won't evolve, is Blaziken. Blaziken is the last in an evolution chain and no evolution chain has ever gone above three. So why give one to him to signify that it won't evolve when no Pokemon has never evolved pas the third evolution stage anyways?

L0RD G3NGAR August 8th, 2013 11:43 AM

Mega Riachu. MegaGolem. O.O

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin1395 (Post 7774238)
The only problem I see with the implication of giving a Pokemon a Mega form to signify that it won't evolve, is Blaziken. Blaziken is the last in an evolution chain and no evolution chain has ever gone above three. So why give one to him to signify that it won't evolve when no Pokemon has never evolved pas the third evolution stage anyways?

I'm guessing the implication is that Mega evolutions are one step above the natural final stage. We're not saying they give it to Blaziken or Ampharos to signify this is it but to show they can go one level more. At least that's how I see it.

Altair August 8th, 2013 11:46 AM

I'm liking these 'mega' forms but what I'm confused about is once these Pokemon become Mega, is there a way to revert them to normal? They are just forms instead of evolutions after all right?

MegaAmpharos looks crazy haha, it's dragon type addition is so unexpected!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Trainer_Altair (Post 7774243)
I'm liking these 'mega' forms but what I'm confused about is once these Pokemon become Mega, is there a way to revert them to normal? They are just forms instead of evolutions after all right?

MegaAmpharos looks crazy haha, it's dragon type addition is so unexpected!

They're more like Pseudo evolutions for battle only, or at least the main sites are saying their battle only making it sound like they revert back to their previous stage.

Imagine Mega Metagrosss....

Clawvile August 8th, 2013 11:49 AM

Hmm, I wonder what effect this would take on the Pokémon trading card game, or the Pokémon anime. I think for the Pokémon trading card game it would work like level EX cards. I wonder if Ash's Charizard will be in a Mega form if he gets a mega form. I do think he would get a mega form. It would be only fair since Blaziken got one.


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