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Rayquaza818 August 8th, 2013 2:05 PM

Honestly, I agree with iRyahn its very much similar to Digimon but its kinda stupid in general

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 2:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774506)
Nope, serious. I thought that the Mega Stone was an actual item, but generalizing all the Mega Stones like Blazikenite into one source is freakin genius! Makes me wonder what the names of the other stones will be.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought Mega stone was an item.

I'm nearly 100 percent sure Mewtwo will be banned as it's already uber in it's normal stage. Blaziken will most likely follow as it was an uber in Gen V and now with the new power creep it'll likely stay that way. Lucario I can see becoming Uber. The other three may receive a boost in tier.

Haza August 8th, 2013 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7774538)
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought Mega stone was an item.

I'm nearly 100 percent sure Mewtwo will be banned as it's already uber in it's normal stage. Blaziken will most likely follow as it was an uber in Gen V and now with the new power creep it'll likely stay that way. Lucario I can see becoming Uber. The other three may receive a boost in tier.

With Mawile's new ability/typing, it's likely it'll be pushed into OU/Uber.

Anyway... a part of me wants to see MEGA eeveelutions! Flareon would finally slay the rest...

F1refly August 8th, 2013 2:22 PM

I dunno. I quite like them. I think people are just scared of change and IMO they are cool looking, although MegaAmpharos is a bit stupid. I like normal Ampharos. I know who my new team is going to e now

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774546)
With Mawile's new ability/typing, it's likely it'll be pushed into OU/Uber.

Anyway... a part of me wants to see MEGA eeveelutions! Flareon would finally slay the rest...

If Mawile doesn't get any worth while Fairy attacks and have to rely on Steel its almost better that it had stayed pure steel type. Its going to get new weaknesses and strengths thanks to Fairy but offensively it doesn't have much but its normal steel attacks to compliment Huge Power.

tnfsf11 August 8th, 2013 2:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkrai666 (Post 7773562)
Typical Nintendo.. First of all when Did Nintendo Declare this? Secondly Isnt that getting too Digimonish? Either ways I guess its going to be pretty good and i suppose you need an Item Like "Mega Stone"?

First thing that came into my mind as well!!!
I actually like Digimon & it was about damn time good pokes got formes, I mean what's more fun than being able to almost evolve your pokes further to 2 evolutionary stages???
Though I don't like MegaAmpharos' design, it isn't that much creative tbh, the same Ampharos we know but with white hair all over >_>

Nonetheless I'm really excited about all of what's been announced & I hope the news are true.
Oh, & MegaBlaziken means one thing... Hoenn remakes confirmed!!!11 {XD}
sorry couldn't resist saying that

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 2:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774546)
With Mawile's new ability/typing, it's likely it'll be pushed into OU/Uber.

Anyway... a part of me wants to see MEGA eeveelutions! Flareon would finally slay the rest...

I also want to see Mega Eeveelutions. How about a Mega Sunflora? It can be Grass/Fire!

Also I just realized that with the Torchic event upon release I can start my Kalos journey with a Torchic on my team :3. Wow two fire starters...have to compensate for that with some grass types.

Rivvon August 8th, 2013 2:26 PM

I'm glad the Gogoat pre-evo turned out to be the real deal! It's probably my favorite of the bunch! The three new Pokemon are very adorable.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774546)
With Mawile's new ability/typing, it's likely it'll be pushed into OU/Uber.

Anyway... a part of me wants to see MEGA eeveelutions! Flareon would finally slay the rest...

Eevee will probably be the most...complex Mega thing around due to its many eeveelutions [will they be adding new ones?~]

WingedDragon August 8th, 2013 2:30 PM

What if its like how Kirlia evolves. Male evolves into this female evolves into that. its possible, but seems a bit over board

Rivvon August 8th, 2013 2:37 PM

If these are forms, then I'll have no problem. If they're evolutions, then I'll be cautious. Introducing fourth evolutions will cause the power creep to really seep into the games, and I do not want that. It will go from being a competitive problem to a problem that breaks the in-game "story mode" mechanics, leaving older and "non-Mega-becoming" Pokemon in the dust. Yes, it's too early to tell, but considering how each gen has higher and higher base stat totals in general I wouldn't say it's too crazy to think it's possible. So, I'm really hoping these are just forms and not real "evolutions."

Also, I hope the other starters get a Mega Evolution, too. Giving one only to Blaziken is just unfair, I think.

And give a Mega Evolution to Dunsparce, please! Nothing against Ampharos, or Fabio-Ampharos, but of all the Pokemon to give a new "evolution" to, Ampharos and Blaziken? When you've got Dunsparce, Luvdisc, Shuckle, Stunfisk........?

At least I can say that I'm glad Mawile has one of these, even though I was hoping for a real evolution and not one of these "maybe forms maybe evolutions we don't know yet" Mega Evos.

BeefTaco August 8th, 2013 2:40 PM

I just wanna see MegaScizor, would probably be OP as hell but who wouldn't want to see an even cooler Scizor.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 3:10 PM

The thread spontaneously died....

Haza August 8th, 2013 3:32 PM

Technically, I guess we could discuss which other Pokemon we think will/should get a mega... and what they'd look like. Since Lucario and Blaziken (and most of them really) share the black "mega" tattoo type design on their bodies and flowing godly hair, I'd like see that on

Roserade: Longer GOKU type hair, visible thorns, and the tattoo design.
Milotic: Water/Dragon... longer flowing ribbons, bolder tail with a more grand tail fin.
Skuntank: Kick ass tail with visible stank fumes

SpitfireYoshi August 8th, 2013 3:35 PM

I CALLED THE ELECTRIC FAIRY! ALL BOW BEFORE ME!

SolarAbusoru August 8th, 2013 3:37 PM

I really wanna see a Mega Evolution of Luxray, I'd imagine lightning-like markings interconnecting all over its body, larger body frame, longer mane.

Infinite Latios August 8th, 2013 3:40 PM

I just thought of something. How cool would a MegaCharizard be? Think about it. Maybe... Two heads? With longer fangs? And black flames on the tail! And a black belly instead of yellow! And maybe... devil-like horns. It would look awesome!

Olli August 8th, 2013 3:41 PM

Not quite sure how I feel about these Mega Pokemon. I mean, they look cool and all, and I'm sure they'll be great Pokemon to use, both in-game and competitively, but they're just kinda changing up the whole formula with this. Like Xander said, MegaBlaziken is gonna be the first case of a fourth stage evolution (even though it's just a stronger Blaziken, they do call it an evolution, so it does count as an evolution), and MegaMewtwo or whatevs is gonna be the first evolution of a legendary (seems like Mewtwo is gonna play a big role in this generation. But then again, they are revisiting a theme of the first generation :p), and I just see that as being violations of two unwritten rules of Pokemon. The legendary evolution isn't that big of a deal to me, but going past the third stage... it just seems wrong to me for some reason :(

And what is the point even? Why do we need these mega evolutions? Can't you just make a bunch of crazy legendaries or something, instead of taking such a leap of faith and completely messing with the formula.

But then again, I guess X and Y have pretty much been a leap of faith in themselves. It's clear that Game Freak are trying to give Pokemon a comeback with this generation, hence all the new features they've brought in. And while some of them are a bit questionable (the big amount of food-related Pokemon they've introduced/supposedly are gonna introduce, despite the negative feedback the whole Vanillite line got for example), they've introduced a lot of awesome features/mechanics/etc. as well (customization of character, hordes of Pokemon, a new typing finally geez even though it's had some variety in feedback, and best of all, SITTING ON BENCHES!). I think the whole Mega Pokemon thing may be an attempt to draw in a different, most likely more mature audience, since the theme of them is obviously to look cool (even though that's debatable :p), and considering that Pokemon have always been regarded as cutesy and adorable (and childish) creatures in the eyes of most people, that may have been a smart move to draw in all those children who decide not to play the games because the main focus is the "cute" of the Pokemon, rather than the "awesome" they're looking for. But it may not have been the smartest move to pull on their current fans, as it's definitely been seen with skepticism :p But then again, it's only a theory; maybe they have much bigger plans for these that we just haven't seen yet.

I also think the whole Mewtwo thing may be to bring back some of the original fans of the series, though that may be a bit of a stretch, and can perhaps just be viewed as fan service for the ones who've stuck around for long enough? But yeah, I'm not gonna say that I'm done with Pokemon before I've seen the impact it actually makes on the games. All their new additions to the games may end up being super awesome, or ruining the entire series, but we'll jsut have to wait and see :p Like I said, a leap of faith.

Oh, also, MegaAbsol looks soo metal. I bet it'd be amazing at headbanging ;D

ricki13th August 8th, 2013 3:43 PM

Absol is not ruin it needed an evolution. But personally I think it was either translated wrong or somewhat fake. However, if this is true this will change pokemon forever. Still think more information is to come as the did not show Oorroto the tree pokemon.

atomtanned August 8th, 2013 3:45 PM

I actually kind of like that they gave Mawile a "mega" evolution. I find most of the Pokemon who never evolve to be pretty boring... a form change would be great and add interest.

But I do agree, and I hope this is just a form change based on a held item, rather than an actual, permanent evolution. It would be interesting if they added a big drawback -- for example, a pokemon's mega-evolution had a huge increase in one stat, but another dropped dramatically, etc.

I just hope it's not as simple as MOAR POWER!!! for the Pokemon that have it available. And I'd like to be able to switch back and forth between a mega/regular evolution.

Aeroblast August 8th, 2013 3:46 PM

Longer I think about this the more I think this is bit of a bad idea. The power creep can settle in very quickly and it won't go away very easily.

Nobody was really expecting this, but then it could well be a success.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 8th, 2013 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7774700)
I really wanna see a Mega Evolution of Luxray, I'd imagine lightning-like markings interconnecting all over its body, larger body frame, longer mane.

And give it the dark typing while you're at it GF. It's a good chance to add a typing to pure typed Pokémon who seemed like they could have another one.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 3:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774434)
Ash sees each and ever Pika clone... they're never really relevant other Pikachu befriending them for a moment.

What about Emolga and Pachi? They were heavily involved in the story line given that Iris and Dawn both traveled with one. For me, these two clones were really nice additions since they were much different from pikachu. Though both electric rodents, one was a squirrel and the other a flying squirrel (similar to a sugar-glider) which are both distinct species. I would have preferred a gerbil or jerboa. Who knows though, this might be more hamster or gerbil like in action; it is very round and lacks a defined neck. So, I am not gonna completely chop this up to being too Raichu-like until I see the gameplay. Other than that, it is undeniably cute.

Haza August 8th, 2013 3:55 PM

Just imagine Mega Arcanine and Mega Houndoom! OMG...

and I find comfort in the fact that they gave the most overpowered starter Pokemon one of these formes... that's confirmation enough for me that at least every starter Pokemon will get one too. idc idc

Cerberus87 August 8th, 2013 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774570)
If Mawile doesn't get any worth while Fairy attacks and have to rely on Steel its almost better that it had stayed pure steel type. Its going to get new weaknesses and strengths thanks to Fairy but offensively it doesn't have much but its normal steel attacks to compliment Huge Power.

Pretty sure this MegaMawile was specifically created to counter Dragons, as it's quadruple resistant to Dragon moves (Steel/Fairy). However, the regular run-of-the-mill Mawile is still weak.

I'd rather they evolved Mawile instead of Megafying it, though. It almost sounds like cheating. And the MegaMawile looks like ass.

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 3:57 PM

I have to say these three new Pokemon are cute as heck.

I'm already in love with Horubii, it looks way more like a real rabbit than Buneary and I presume it might be the stereotypical "early route rodent" following the likes of Rattata, Sentret, Zigzagoon, Bidoof and Patrat. Dedenne is also cute too, and is certainly the new Pikaclone, but with Fairy-type added. Its appearance sorta suggests it might be based on a hamster, gerbil or something.

And the Gogoat pre-evo was expected thanks to a trailer giving it away, but still it's very cute.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 4:03 PM

Now that I've had some time to think about it and let it settle, I'm more okay with it. But, that's only if they are forms. If they are evolutions, which I doubt (adding Mega in front of a Pokemons name isn't a great idea in terms of evolution), then that is where I have a problem. Evolution chains with four is where things will get bad. I mean, look at something like Smeargle for instance. Is it entirely fair for Blaziken, an already OU and very powerful Pokemon to get a fourth evolution, when a Pokemon like Smeargle is stuck on its own? I guess one of my main concerns is the distribution of the Megas.

Sure this idea is cool, the Pokemon look cool and all that, but, I guess I'm just missing the point of MegaPokemon. Why have them?

blue August 8th, 2013 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7774732)
Pretty sure this MegaMawile was specifically created to counter Dragons, as it's quadruple resistant to Dragon moves (Steel/Fairy). However, the regular run-of-the-mill Mawile is still weak.

I'd rather they evolved Mawile instead of Megafying it, though. It almost sounds like cheating. And the MegaMawile looks like ass.

Mega Mawile has the potential to reach the OU tier, it now has a higher attack than Deoxys-A..

Deoxys' max attack stat: 504
Mawile's max attack stat after Huge Power: 590

When set up correctly it could do some seeerious damage, looks like it sorta got the boost it needed!

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 4:12 PM

It's funny to think of some pokemon maybe getting hair for their mega forms...
Like Hariyama or Sawk.

Haza August 8th, 2013 4:17 PM

They did Ampharos so wrong though... the others look like LEGENDS... and then there's MegaAmpharos...

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7774754)
Mega Mawile has the potential to reach the OU tier, it now has a higher attack than Deoxys-A..

Deoxys' max attack stat: 504
Mawile's max attack stat after Huge Power: 590

When set up correctly it could do some seeerious damage, looks like it sorta got the boost it needed!

On top of Mawile itself also getting Fairy-type, this is definitely giving Mawile the love it needs. I'm still surprised the Huge Power ability is no longer Marill line-exclusive. This type combination means Mawile can turn into a real Dragon check so I guess it is one of the Mega-Evolutions that is good.

blue August 8th, 2013 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7774772)
On top of Mawile itself also getting Fairy-type, this is definitely giving Mawile the love it needs. I'm still surprised the Huge Power ability is no longer Marill line-exclusive. This type combination means Mawile can turn into a real Dragon check so I guess it is one of the Mega-Evolutions that is good.

Well Sableye could be considered as its counterpart and it did outweigh it in several ways with having Prankster, no weaknesses etc so I'm happy that Mawile could get the attention that it needed.

darkpokeball August 8th, 2013 4:28 PM

My first reaction: What the--?! What is this?! WHAT IS THIS?!

My reaction now, after it's had time to settle in: Really interesting concept. I'm all for it! Anyways, I'm thinking that MegaEvo is just a reversible evolution. You know, you can go back and forth Mega and not-mega as if it was a form, but it's actually an evolution, so it's a new pokemon with new moves and typing and such.

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7774787)
Well Sableye could be considered as its counterpart and it did outweigh it in several ways with having Prankster, no weaknesses etc so I'm happy that Mawile could get the attention that it needed.

This is definitely heightening my hopes for a Sableye Mega-Evolution.

Latios Master August 8th, 2013 4:38 PM

I'm not crazy about the new idea, but I'm relieved that it's not fusion. I don't care much for the designs. I always wanted new evolutions for Absol and Mawile. It's odd that they gave one to a starter. The one for Ampharos is by far the worst, and looks very sloppily designed. The best might be Mawile, but once again, I don't really like any of them. I hope the Absol one grows on me, since Absol is one of my favorite Pokémon, but I can't stand that "hair" over it's face.

Haza August 8th, 2013 4:40 PM

Remember that anime promo for Black and White 2? I wish there was an anime that looked that way and was surrounding Mega Pokemon... I'd never watch the traditional anime again.

Esper August 8th, 2013 4:46 PM

I just saw this and I'm kind of interested in seeing where they go with it. I suppose at some point they can't keep adding new Pokemon to the list, but with this they can sort of keep adding without actually adding. I actually like the new looks on Mawile and Ampharos, but not as much with Lucario and Blaziken.

Keiran August 8th, 2013 4:47 PM

Sucker Punch + 590 attack would definitely give it a spot in Ubers. It checks Mewtwo and Deoxys, and probably OHKOs Giratina too. It resists Extremespeed so it also scares
Rayquaza and Arceus. Either way, its definitely OU at least.

But the VGC metagame doesn't have tiers, which is why this is worrying. But people are saying these evolutions occur with a held item, perhaps if they're too strong they could ban the item just like Soul Dew. Let's hope Mawile and Lucario are just scary examples, cause Ampharos looks pretty neat (and it would troll Thundurus-T so hard).

Esper August 8th, 2013 4:51 PM

I'm getting a Hamtaro vibe from Dedenne. Definitely looks like a hamster to me.

Horubii kinda looks a little Disney to me. Or at least more like something from a Western cartoon than something from Japan.

Meekuru is cute as a button! Best of the bunch, easily.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7774809)
Sucker Punch + 590 attack would definitely give it a spot in Ubers. It checks Mewtwo and Deoxys, and probably OHKOs Giratina too. It resists Extremespeed so it also scares
Rayquaza and Arceus. Either way, its definitely OU at least.

But the VGC metagame doesn't have tiers, which is why this is worrying. But people are saying these evolutions occur with a held item, perhaps if they're too strong they could ban the item just like Soul Dew. Let's hope Mawile and Lucario are just scary examples, cause Ampharos looks pretty neat (and it would troll Thundurus-T so hard).

I wonder if the Mega Forms will have the same stat skewing from Natures as the normal forms...
A Lucario with an even higher sp. atk than normal, using Aura sphere [guaranteed hit]...

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarf (Post 7774807)
I just saw this and I'm kind of interested in seeing where they go with it. I suppose at some point they can't keep adding new Pokemon to the list, but with this they can sort of keep adding without actually adding. I actually like the new looks on Mawile and Ampharos, but not as much with Lucario and Blaziken.

If this is real. Despite not liking the idea of Mega's, at all, I agree with you that Mawile and Ampharos are the most aesthetically pleasing. It's odd that everyone seems to be singling out Ampharos' design as being awful, when it actually looks pretty elegant as a maned sheep dragon.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 5:06 PM

If it was fake, I would assume GF would have confirmed that it was fake by now. However, they still have not said anything.

I really can't wait to see a Megalution of Empoleon.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 5:20 PM

I just thought of something...kind of scary
Guildmaster Wigglytuff in Mega Form.....

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 5:36 PM

So, the new movie, Pokemon Extreme Speed, with the new mewtwo forme. it states that it is his awakened forme, if I am not mistaken; so why now is it a mega evolution?? Correct me if I am mistaken. Also, has anyone watched the movie? Can anyone confirm whether or not they described the origin behind the mewtwo related pokemon.

MrGriszell August 8th, 2013 5:41 PM

Where exactly in the translation does it say that it's only a in battle evolution , and I'm using evolution instead of new forms because that's what they are, unless that was a mistranslation. I personally love this , but I'm not sure how this will work because nobody would use any of the old pokemon if everyone gets a mega evolution

Sir Codin August 8th, 2013 5:55 PM

AAAAnnnnnd, the fanbase has been cleaved into separate parts once again.

PlatinumDude August 8th, 2013 6:02 PM

Mega Mawile, Mega Ampharos and Mega Blaziken are starting to grow on me. I don't have an opinion on Mega Absol just yet.

Better prepare yourselves for the genwunners who react so negatively towards Mega Charizard

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 6:03 PM

Everything I have read is saying they are forms and that they are just called Megalutions. I highly doubt they would evolve a Mewtwo to be honest. Not to mentions Mewtwo can change between Mega and normal in the movie. I would assume it only transforms during battle. And why would you need a different hold item if the pokemon gains stats when it goes to Mega.

The again Deoxis can change forms during battle as well. Regardless it is still a form.

Sir Codin August 8th, 2013 6:04 PM

Are you kidding me? I'm looking forward to Mega Charizard!

My Mega Charizard and Mega Aggron are going to. rape. your. s***. BACKWARDS!!!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoPWALM2riQ

So lock up your daughter
And lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life
The 'zard is back in towwwwwn

The Local Joke August 8th, 2013 6:08 PM

Maybe they're going to be localized as Knight Pokemon? Like, Knight Charizard, Knight Blaziken? Sounds a lot better than Mega Charizard, to be honest.

This will only be a good idea to me if every evolutionary family gets one.

MrGriszell August 8th, 2013 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7774905)
Everything I have read is saying they are forms and that they are just called Megalutions. I highly doubt they would evolve a Mewtwo to be honest. Not to mentions Mewtwo can change between Mega and normal in the movie. I would assume it only transforms during battle. And why would you need a different hold item if the pokemon gains stats when it goes to Mega.

The again Deoxis can change forms during battle as well. Regardless it is still a form.

If Game Freak are using Mega evolutions are they really just forms?

Helios93 August 8th, 2013 6:28 PM

What if the each of the gen 6 starter will have their own Mega evolution? I bet it will be awesome!

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7774732)
Pretty sure this MegaMawile was specifically created to counter Dragons, as it's quadruple resistant to Dragon moves (Steel/Fairy). However, the regular run-of-the-mill Mawile is still weak.

I'd rather they evolved Mawile instead of Megafying it, though. It almost sounds like cheating. And the MegaMawile looks like ass.

Fairy has never been stated to resist Dragon types. Mawile doesn't Double Resist Dragon.

I should add...yet. Still no official word on it and it may not happen, possible, but also possible to not happen at all. SE and Resist through 2 elements isn't a bad thing really, but even still its almost not enough. She has no Fairy Attacks to back her up yet.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 6:38 PM

http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=ja&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpokemonkorea.co.kr%2Fnews%2Fnews_view.asp%3FIDX%3D10057

OH, GAWD, it might have just been confirmed?!?!

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7774951)

You exclaim it like its a bad thing. XD

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774943)
Fairy has never been stated to resist Dragon types. Mawile doesn't Double Resist Dragon.

I should add...yet. Still no official word on it and it may not happen, possible, but also possible to not happen at all. SE and Resist through 2 elements isn't a bad thing really, but even still its almost not enough. She has no Fairy Attacks to back her up yet.

Well Fairy, I believe was confirmed to be strong against dragon types, as it was designed to get rid of the lack of powerful moves, since only Ice and Dragon were strong against it. So why wouldn't it resist Dragon? It's more common to not only be strong against an element, but to be resistant against it as well....
Not a lot are strong against something, and not resistant to it. And usually in those cases, they're weak to it instead, like ghost and dragon being weak to themselves.
As are most types are resistant to themselves.

Then again, it could be the case like Psychic and Ghost both are supereffective against the other.

Golden Warrior August 8th, 2013 6:51 PM

Whooo. What to say about these things. Well, they are certainly interesting. Now, from what I HAVE been able to read, these Pokemon are indeed Evolving. The Pokemon definition of evolution usually is a permanent thing, from what I've experienced, whether or not these follow the same idea is a completely different story. What... I mean, whoa.

Some of these seem like they will become absolutely broken Pokemon, making me believe the above posts are correct, that these are only forms that can take place at a temporary time. Blaziken and Lucario are strong enough as is, and the fact that the "Mewthree" as many call it, is a MegaEvolution of Mewtwo, makes me believe this even more. Now, if the case is indeed permanent evolution, it better be really darn hard to achieve these new forms.

However, this is purely speculation as the title of the topic implies, and until more official info is released, I can really have nothing more to say here.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 6:57 PM

These better act as legendaries of the region. Similar to shadow pokemon of XD. They are a part of the whole DNA evil science project gone wrong theme, and they will be a thing of the past with the addition of new games. I hope anyways!

Haza August 8th, 2013 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7774980)
These better act as legendaries of the region. Similar to shadow pokemon of XD. They are a part of the whole DNA evil science project gone wrong theme, and they will be a thing of the past with the addition of new games. I hope anyways!

I would be so pissed tbh... I doubt that'd even happen though since their are type changes and all of that.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774985)
I would be so pissed tbh... I doubt that'd even happen though since their are type changes and all of that.

Type change is irreverent to that point.

Since the mega Ampharos becomes part dragon, therefore Mega's must exist in future games?

Haza August 8th, 2013 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7774992)
Type change is irreverent to that point.

Since the mega Ampharos becomes part dragon, therefore Mega's must exist in future games?

When you're comparing it to something as irrelevant as SHADOW POKEMON? Get out of here... if what you're saying was plausible, then there would've been no reason to carry over any alternate forme of any Pokemon of any of the past games....

Cerberus87 August 8th, 2013 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7774943)
Fairy has never been stated to resist Dragon types. Mawile doesn't Double Resist Dragon.

I should add...yet. Still no official word on it and it may not happen, possible, but also possible to not happen at all. SE and Resist through 2 elements isn't a bad thing really, but even still its almost not enough. She has no Fairy Attacks to back her up yet.

Do you really believe that a type created solely to counter Dragon won't resist Dragon as well? When Dark was created to counter Psychic, it was immune to Psychic.

One of Dragon's assets is that it's mostly unresisted across the type chart save for itself, which it's super effective against, and Steel. It would be silly of GF to create all these weak Fairies and not give them at least a Dragon resist. And it would be a golden opportunity to create the first Fairy that can actually wall Outrage, provided the mega form boosts stats since Mawile is pretty crappy all around.

Logiedan August 8th, 2013 7:10 PM

I hope that not a lot of Pokemon would have mega evolutions or, heaven forbid, all Pokemon. I'm thinking the eeveelutions wouldn't get one like Flareon or Espeon, but maybe they're finally doing a Normal/Fairy Mega Evolution for Eevee.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7774970)
Well Fairy, I believe was confirmed to be strong against dragon types, as it was designed to get rid of the lack of powerful moves, since only Ice and Dragon were strong against it. So why wouldn't it resist Dragon? It's more common to not only be strong against an element, but to be resistant against it as well....
Not a lot are strong against something, and not resistant to it. And usually in those cases, they're weak to it instead, like ghost and dragon being weak to themselves.
As are most types are resistant to themselves.

Then again, it could be the case like Psychic and Ghost both are supereffective against the other.

Strong against meant they were Super Effective against them. I mean Ice is Strong against Dragon, but doesn't resist it. Dragon is Strong Against Dragon and is weak to Dragon at the same time.

There are other elements that are strong against one but not resist them.

Fighting is Strong against Normal and Ice but doesn't resist either.
Ground is strong against Fire and Steel and doesn't resist either.
Rock is strong against Bug and Ice but doesn't resist either.
Bug is strong against Psychic and Dark but doesn't resist either.
Ghost is strong against Ghost and Psychic and doesn't resist Psychic while its weak to Ghost.
Fire is strong against Ice and doesn't resist it.
Water is strong against Rock and Ground but doesn't resist either.
Grass is strong against Rock and doesn't resist it.
Electric is strong against Water and doesn't resist it.
Psychic is strong against Poison and doesn't resist it.
Ice is strong against Dragon, Grass, Ground, and Flying and doesn't resist any of them.

Fairy was made to be Super Effective against Dragon, which is why they told us this. Doesn't mean that there is no chance it can be resistant to Dragon, but it means that's not what they meant by it being stronger than Dragon. Fairy exists to give Dragon Types one added weakness. That's exactly what they did.

So far Mawile only has normal resistance to Dragon types. Though even with x4 it may not be enough to survive an attack from one.

Also..No I didn't expect my list to get as large as it did. There were a fair number that were SE and Resisted but I don't think it was as large as the list that is just SE and not resistant. There were a few immunities as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7774999)
Do you really believe that a type created solely to counter Dragon won't resist Dragon as well? When Dark was created to counter Psychic, it was immune to Psychic.

One of Dragon's assets is that it's mostly unresisted across the type chart save for itself, which it's super effective against, and Steel. It would be silly of GF to create all these weak Fairies and not give them at least a Dragon resist. And it would be a golden opportunity to create the first Fairy that can actually wall Outrage, provided the mega form boosts stats since Mawile is pretty crappy all around.

Steel was also made to counter Psychic by having Resistance only. Some types were changed in the process to better balance out Psychic as well. Just because they make it to counter doesn't mean they'll add Immunities and Resistances. They also never said it was to counter Dragons. It was made to weaken dragons. They made a type with the sole purpose of being able to do more damage to dragons. They have achieved this already. Dragons have fairly low Sp. Defense. One more Special type weakness that can spread through other pokemon weakens dragons considerably.

BluuArrowz August 8th, 2013 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerex (Post 7773591)
If this turns out to be true then nobody will ever choose mudkip or treeko in the gen3 remakes

They wont just do it to one... you know. That would be stupid and get a lot of people mad. So them showing Torchic has one also leads us to assume the other starters will also have one.

Anyways besides him not looking at the obvious..
My tanky speed/ special attack Eletrick/Dragon Ampharaos is GG for all my friends who wont let me use it in battle in its Normal form now.... Hope Dragonite has one.( They wont let me use my baby D-nite either =( now they totally wont let me..)

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 7:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7774980)
These better act as legendaries of the region. Similar to shadow pokemon of XD. They are a part of the whole DNA evil science project gone wrong theme, and they will be a thing of the past with the addition of new games. I hope anyways!

Pokemon doesn't exactly do one-shot things....
If it's in these games, it'll be in more.

BluuArrowz August 8th, 2013 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7775005)
Strong against meant they were Super Effective against them. I mean Ice is Strong against Dragon, but doesn't resist it. Dragon is Strong Against Dragon and is weak to Dragon at the same time.

There are other elements that are strong against one but not resist them.

Fighting is Strong against Normal and Ice but doesn't resist either.
Ground is strong against Fire and Steel and doesn't resist either.
Rock is strong against Bug and Ice but doesn't resist either.
Bug is strong against Psychic and Dark but doesn't resist either.
Ghost is strong against Ghost and Psychic and doesn't resist Psychic while its weak to Ghost.
Fire is strong against Ice and doesn't resist it.
Water is strong against Rock and Ground but doesn't resist either.
Grass is strong against Rock and doesn't resist it.
Electric is strong against Water and doesn't resist it.
Psychic is strong against Poison and doesn't resist it.
Ice is strong against Dragon, Grass, Ground, and Flying and doesn't resist any of them.

Fairy was made to be Super Effective against Dragon, which is why they told us this. Doesn't mean that there is no chance it can be resistant to Dragon, but it means that's not what they meant by it being stronger than Dragon. Fairy exists to give Dragon Types one added weakness. That's exactly what they did.

So far Mawile only has normal resistance to Dragon types. Though even with x4 it may not be enough to survive an attack from one.

Also..No I didn't expect my list to get as large as it did. There were a fair number that were SE and Resisted but I don't think it was as large as the list that is just SE and not resistant. There were a few immunities as well.

They Basically Buffed Mawile. Even though mawile had some resistance it was not strong enough to survive in anything thats why you didnt see much of them. but I always loved it so glad it got buffed =D and Absol also. The ones i see to be unfair is Blazekin and Lucario.... They where already OP same with amphorous..

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logiedan (Post 7775004)
I hope that not a lot of Pokemon would have mega evolutions or, heaven forbid, all Pokemon. I'm thinking the eeveelutions wouldn't get one like Flareon or Espeon, but maybe they're finally doing a Normal/Fairy Mega Evolution for Eevee.

One of the Korean sites had updated earlier and said its Evolution beyond evolution. I think the Mega Forms are for Fully evolved Pokemon only...which only confirms my earlier doubts that Mawile and Absol not being able to evolve in the future due to these.

So I hope its selective. More Mega means less chance for more to evolve in the future.

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 7:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haza (Post 7774997)
When you're comparing it to something as irrelevant as SHADOW POKEMON? Get out of here... if what you're saying was plausible, then there would've been no reason to carry over any alternate forme of any Pokemon of any of the past games....

Actually, I only said similar in that they are exclusive to one region. Which is possible. The technology to craft shadow pokemon existed exclusively in that version. The same could be said with mega evolution technology, rather than simply formes as introduced in past generations.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 7774929)
If Game Freak are using Mega evolutions are they really just forms?

Yes they can be. Game Freak has a way with not being specific on some things. Mewtwo was able to change at will while in battle in the movie and was able to change back. Not to mention they still called it Mewtwo in the movie. It is possible to be a form. It is possible to be an evolution, but I highly doubt this, because why would they evolve Mewtwo and not call it Mewthree? Why would they evolve a Legendary Pokemon period? This would make little since, it is called a Legendary for a reason. Though MegaBlaziken ect. could just be prototype name. Even the name Megaziken would be better than MegaBlaziken.

I don't hate the idea. In fact I like it, I just don't think they would add that many pokemon. Though it is possible that we may only get 10 or 15 Megas this generation, that opens up over 350+ possibilities for new pokemon. As I said, the only thing I really hate about this is the names. Also as I have said, I would love love love to see Megas for Empoleon, Braviary, Krookodile and a few others.

Imagine a MegaMagmortar or something.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7775018)
Actually, I only said similar in that they are exclusive to one region. Which is possible. The technology to craft shadow pokemon existed exclusively in that version. The same could be said with mega evolution technology, rather than simply formes as introduced in past generations.

Shadow Pokemon are also not canon to the Main series so they will never appear in the main series games. The two games where they appear are spin offs that were not made by gamefreak and should never be compared to as they aren't the same developers.

These really aren't like Shadow Pokemon and since they are made by the mother company Gamefreak, they have a high chance of passing over into the next generation.

Torchic event confirms that Dream World "Hidden" Abilities still exist despite the possibility of the Dream World no longer existing when Gen 6 is released.

Cerberus87 August 8th, 2013 7:24 PM

As long as some favorites get mega forms, I'm fine, but I'm pretty sure, no I'm 99% sure, that only a select few will get these new forms, because the items seem to be species-specific and creating items for 350+ fully evolved Pokémon would eat up the code. If it acts as a stat booster, it's no different from an Eviolite really, except it will most likely "change" the Pokémon into something with a higher BST.

And I want my DNA Digievolutions.

Pinkie-Dawn August 8th, 2013 7:30 PM

I can't believe it took Game Freak more than a decade to make Ampharos Electric/Dragon, since its dex entry categorizes it as a dragon, with its mega evolution. They could've done so earlier without the mega evolution, and it would've helped diversify Claire's team by replacing one of her Dragonairs with it back in G/S/C/HG/SS.

Water Gym Leader August 8th, 2013 7:34 PM

I'll say its real when I see gameplay footage.

Haza August 8th, 2013 7:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenneking (Post 7775018)
Actually, I only said similar in that they are exclusive to one region. Which is possible. The technology to craft shadow pokemon existed exclusively in that version. The same could be said with mega evolution technology, rather than simply formes as introduced in past generations.

Well you had the dumbest speculation... OF ALL TIME...

Anyway, maybe these MEGAs could have something to with Pokemon research or whatever the motives of Team Flare are. Would be awesome if the first Pokemon that they successfully awaken is a MegaBlaziken and that's how we're properly introduced to them.

Cerberus87 August 8th, 2013 7:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7775024)
Torchic event confirms that Dream World "Hidden" Abilities still exist despite the possibility of the Dream World no longer existing when Gen 6 is released.

The DW abilities will still exist but the method will change. Hopefully it's something better than the Dream World, and hopefully they don't become event exclusives.

Boilurn August 8th, 2013 7:49 PM

So that's our "scoop of the century"?! Quite a disappointment, especially considering that Blaziken is already an Uber in the competitive scene. Still, a four-stage evolutionary line has never happened before in Pokemon, unlike Digimon. I hope they'll all be given different names.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 7:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7775072)
The DW abilities will still exist but the method will change. Hopefully it's something better than the Dream World, and hopefully they don't become event exclusives.


I agree, dream world was one of the few things that was WAY too over the top.
I like Dream Radar though, I think they should make an extended version, sort of like an improved Dream World...but on the 3DS itself not online.

And nobody answered my question. Is the news report about Region Locks real?

AwkwardVulpix August 8th, 2013 7:59 PM

I...don't know how to feel about these designs. Hm. I'll need to think about this before coming to a complete conclusion. I'm leaning towards "like", though.

Jake♫ August 8th, 2013 8:12 PM

...I have no idea how I feel about this. I'm really hoping that if anything this will just be a different form change, not a new evolutionary stage. Having a Legendary evolve in Mewtwo's case just seems against what we've know for so long it'd be just weird to change (Which they can do whatever they want, but still, dat precedent). The Ampharos one just looks extremely silly. I mean, how does adding what looks like clouds on its head and tail give it Dragon typing?

Haza August 8th, 2013 8:15 PM

I'm slowly appreciating Ampharos and that weave... it reminds me of a flop version of that Electric/Dragon Smogon CAP Pokemon...

Jigglymilk August 8th, 2013 8:17 PM

Hmm. Earlier I LOATHED this idea... Now I'm warming up to it more. It's just something new. Huge change. But it could end up being a great new feature that we all love. We'll find out in just 2 months.

What other pokemon should get mega evolutions? Since the designs are just so bad ass, I'd like to see

MegaNinetales (Change to fire/psychic)

MegaMilotic (Change to water/fairy)

MegaGengar (Change to ghost/dark)

MegaZoroark

MegaCrobat

MegaHoundoom

MegaGirafirig (change to Psychic/Electric)

MegaPidgeot (change to Flying/Dragon)

MegaLapras

MegaStarmie

Shrew August 8th, 2013 8:17 PM

These are the questions going through my mind...

1. For pokemon like Absol and Mawile, does getting megas mean they will never get evolutions? Currently only pokemon which cannot evolve further have megas (for instance, Torchic and Combusken do not have megas.)

2. Because of this new heavy emphasis on megas, does this mean no past pokemon will get evolutions? Even-numbered generations had the pattern of introducing evos, but the fact that Mawile got a mega instead of an evolution makes me wonder.

3. Will the 14 past starters besides Blaziken also get megas? Torchic has been given bias in the past, such as being the only starter allowed in Amity Square, having its own wallpapers for the PC system; also, the fact that Blaziken+Latias was originally conceptualized as a single pokemon. The very fact that they're showing off Blaziken but no other starter already shows Gamefreak's bias to this pokemon.

My complaints:

1. Why couldn't Absol's mega be Dark/Psychic?

2. How can you attach a wooly mane onto a sheep/kangaroo and call it a dragon? Sounds like forced typing... al beit reminiscent to Altaria.

3. I wish these megas would start out only be used for pokemon like Ampharos, Pidgeot, Poliwrath... things that aren't that good, yet already reached their max evolutions. Giving it to pokemon that could still evolve (Mawile/Absol) seems unnecessary; and giving it to pokemon that are already top tier (Blaziken and Lucario) just widens the strength gap.

Coincidence:
In the past, I never liked that Ampharos lost its wool when evolving. I used to imagine how there could be wool coat item for it to hold, which would increase it's defenses. I'm really happy to see that Ampharos has a mega that has regained its wool.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:26 PM

Since this mostly concerns Mega Forms I'mma post this update from Serebii.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serebii
Following yesterdays reveal of the new Pokémon, and the Mega Evolutions, some clear images have surfaced which showcase some of these Pokémon in battle. It also provides a few further bits of information. First, Pokémon can only Mega Evolve when they are holding a Mega Stone. It's not yet known whether the Mega Stone is one specific item, or a separate one such as the Blazikenite that the event Torchic holds. It also confirms that Mega Evolutions are temporary in battle.
It confirms that not all Pokémon will have Mega Evolutions. The Master Tower has a connection to Mega Evolutions
Finally, it also confirms that Super Training will increase Pokémon's "Kiso" Points. The translation of it indicates that this may be what we call EVs


Scarecr0wFixatioN August 8th, 2013 8:29 PM

A little iffy on the 3 new pokes that were revealed. The new gym leader Koruni has an interesting design, and I can't help but think she may be a dark type user.

I love the designs for all the mega-evolutions, and I just hope enough of the right pokemon get them. The overall idea of mid-battle evo's that aren't permanent seem pretty cool to me.

Infinite Latios August 8th, 2013 8:29 PM

I just thought of something else. I'm hoping for a MegaLuvdisc. Or at least a Luvdisc evolution. It's so pathetic, and it's stayed that way for three generations. They need to do SOMETHING for Luvdisc. Oh, and I'm calling it now, Luvdisc will be Fairy Type.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 8:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrew (Post 7775110)
These are the questions going through my mind...

1. For pokemon like Absol and Mawile, does getting megas mean they will never get evolutions? Currently only pokemon which cannot evolve further have megas (for instance, Torchic and Combusken do not have megas.)

2. Because of this new heavy emphasis on megas, does this mean no past pokemon will get evolutions? Even-numbered generations had the pattern of introducing evos, but the fact that Mawile got a mega instead of an evolution makes me wonder.

3. Will the 14 past starters besides Blaziken also get megas? Torchic has been given bias in the past, such as being the only starter allowed in Amity Square, having its own wallpapers for the PC system; also, the fact that Blaziken+Latias was originally conceptualized as a single pokemon. The very fact that they're showing off Blaziken but no other starter already shows Gamefreak's bias to this pokemon.

My complaints:

1. Why couldn't Absol's mega be Dark/Psychic?

2. How can you attach a wooly mane onto a sheep/kangaroo and call it a dragon? Sounds like forced typing... al beit reminiscent to Altaria.

3. I wish these megas would start out only be used for pokemon like Ampharos, Pidgeot, Poliwrath... things that aren't that good, yet already reached their max evolutions. Giving it to pokemon that could still evolve (Mawile/Absol) seems unnecessary; and giving it to pokemon that are already top tier (Blaziken and Lucario) just widens the strength gap.

Coincidence:
In the past, I never liked that Ampharos lost its wool when evolving. I used to imagine how there could be wool coat item for it to hold, which would increase it's defenses. I'm really happy to see that Ampharos has a mega that has regained its wool.

Part 1:
1. Probably. With them getting Megalutions, I do not see them evolving anymore.
2. No, because if they were going to throw out old pokemon to get evolutions, they wouldn't have given Eevee another one.
3. I would say that every starter will get one in time. But maybe not all this generation.

Part 2:
1. I do not know this, but I have to agree. They should have given Absol a dual type to go with the rest in my opinion.
2. I honestly think they liked the fan art that someone made forever ago. It looked almost exactly like the fan art.
3. I agree with this. I think Mawile at least should have gotten an Evo before Mega, however at least normal Mawile is Steel/Fairy as well. This is probably being because they did not want to evolve some stand alone pokemon. They probably could change it up a little and actually give Mawile a evo later on, but I doubt it. Right now people are thinking they are truly evolutions and not just forms, though the fan site confirm that it is only a in battle form. We will not know 100% until we get more info.

Also the fan art I am talking about for Ampharos is somewhere in this thread or the Biggest scope thread, but it is near the start I think. If I can find it, I may repost it here.


THANK GOD!!! I was so not wanting those pokemon to be in the dex. I am so so glad they are just forms. Now we don't have to consider those new pokemon and the are just battle forms

Darkrai666 August 8th, 2013 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7775126)
Since this mostly concerns Mega Forms I'mma post this update from Serebii.

So it is Supposed to be temporary In a battle like 2 to 3 turns and then they change back to normal? Oh God..Im not a genwunner But If this "Mega Evolution" Is as bad as it sounds I may have to change into One

aonshinzo August 8th, 2013 8:34 PM

It's confirmed their only temporary form changes and are battle exclusives and that not all pokemon will receive them. There's also updated screenshots and.....they really look even better in battle. Go to Serebii :)

Therizinosaurus August 8th, 2013 8:35 PM

personally I hope that it turns out they used that enormous cartridge space to put mega evolutions in for every single fully evolved pokemon. that'd be awesome, and it'd bring the effective count above 1000

Infinite Latios August 8th, 2013 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkrai666 (Post 7775138)
So it is Supposed to be temporary In a battle like 2 to 3 turns and then they change back to normal? Oh God..Im not a genwunner But If this "Mega Evolution" Is as bad as it sounds I may have to change into One

Nah, I think it'll be a little more like Meloetta's Pirouette Forme. Like, you can change back whenever you want, but you can't have it be mega form out of battle and you have to do something to transform it.

Therizinosaurus August 8th, 2013 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therizinosaurus (Post 7775141)
personally I hope that it turns out they used that enormous cartridge space to put mega evolutions in for every single fully evolved pokemon. that'd be awesome, and it'd bring the effective count above 1000


well, I assume so, anyway, without doing any math...

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3317 (Post 7775136)
Part 1:
1. Probably. With them getting Megalutions, I do not see them evolving anymore.
2. No, because if they were going to throw out old pokemon to get evolutions, they wouldn't have given Eevee another one.
3. I would say that every starter will get one in time. But maybe not all this generation.

Part 2:
1. I do not know this, but I have to agree. They should have given Absol a dual type to go with the rest in my opinion.
2. I honestly think they liked the fan art that someone made forever ago. It looked almost exactly like the fan art.
3. I agree with this. I think Mawile at least should have gotten an Evo before Mega, however at least normal Mawile is Steel/Fairy as well. This is probably being because they did not want to evolve some stand alone pokemon. They probably could change it up a little and actually give Mawile a evo later on, but I doubt it. Right now people are thinking they are truly evolutions and not just forms, though the fan site confirm that it is only a in battle form. We will not know 100% until we get more info.

Also the fan art I am talking about for Ampharos is somewhere in this thread or the Biggest scope thread, but it is near the start I think. If I can find it, I may repost it here.


I must share the Gloriousness of Fabiphros with the world~

I had posted it so I thought I'd do you a favor and get it for ya.

Therizinosaurus August 8th, 2013 8:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinite Latios (Post 7775142)
Nah, I think it'll be a little more like Meloetta's Pirouette Forme. Like, you can change back whenever you want, but you can't have it be mega form out of battle and you have to do something to transform it.


yea you need to give it an item to hold, and then expose it to a sort of mega evolutionary stone. so itll be semi-perminant at the least

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 8:37 PM

I had a thought...
there are many pokemon who can only evolve via an elemental stone....
Will there be a different aspect in those cases?
Like will Growlithe get the mega form instead of arcanine or maybe both?

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:38 PM

I think we found the Rock type Gym Leader...since she deals with the Mega Stones and Mega Evolution, I think she'll be some kinda Rock type Gym Leader. Seems appropriate as some Rock Gym leaders and even ground types are seen as stone investigators or dealing with a mine/quarry.

Scarecr0wFixatioN August 8th, 2013 8:38 PM

I just hope there's more to it than "Give it this stone". If each mon with a mega-evo has its own stone (like Torchic, and the blaziken-knight) I wouldn't mind only if they made the items really hard to obtain, but it just seems too easy.

Treecko August 8th, 2013 8:38 PM

I'm gonna ignore the Mega forms in this thread and focus on the new Pokemon.

Dedenne is like Raichu meets Hamtaro, it's so cute! It looks like we have this generation's Pikachu clone.

Horubii is kind of ugly, but it's not bad, but maybe it's a dust bunny. Gogoat's pre- evo is cute though I like it a lot.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 8:39 PM

I would like to post this here as Xander did in the "Mega Pokemon..." thread.

Quote:

Following yesterdays reveal of the new Pokémon, and the Mega Evolutions, some clear images have surfaced which showcase some of these Pokémon in battle. It also provides a few further bits of information. First, Pokémon can only Mega Evolve when they are holding a Mega Stone. It's not yet known whether the Mega Stone is one specific item, or a separate one such as the Blazikenite that the event Torchic holds. It also confirms that Mega Evolutions are temporary in battle.
It confirms that not all Pokémon will have Mega Evolutions. The Master Tower has a connection to Mega Evolutions
It also confirms stat increases, stating that MegaLucario's Attack is higher. MegaAbsol has increased Attack & Speed. Finally, it also confirms that Super Training will increase Pokémon's "Kiso" Points. The translation of it indicates that this may be what we call EVs
05:33: Next month's CoroCoro to feature new Pokémon, new Mega Evolutions and type chart featuring the Fairy-type
The Megas are only forms and do not actually count as new pokemon.

Xander Olivieri August 8th, 2013 8:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienHelvian (Post 7775151)
I had a thought...
there are many pokemon who can only evolve via an elemental stone....
Will there be a different aspect in those cases?
Like will Growlithe get the mega form instead of arcanine or maybe both?

Its fully evolved Pokemon, so it would be just Arcanine if the Stone evolvers can get one.

Right now I'm only ruling out those with form changes right now as they already have form changes. Giving a form change to a form change is kinda redundant.

I'll go ahead and say some gimmick Pokemon won't get it either like Ditto and maybe Smeargle since their gimmick is more based on their attacks.

I'd be willing to say Zoroark won't get one...but I really want to see it with one -w-;;


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