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Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 3:57 PM

I have to say these three new Pokemon are cute as heck.

I'm already in love with Horubii, it looks way more like a real rabbit than Buneary and I presume it might be the stereotypical "early route rodent" following the likes of Rattata, Sentret, Zigzagoon, Bidoof and Patrat. Dedenne is also cute too, and is certainly the new Pikaclone, but with Fairy-type added. Its appearance sorta suggests it might be based on a hamster, gerbil or something.

And the Gogoat pre-evo was expected thanks to a trailer giving it away, but still it's very cute.

Austin1395 August 8th, 2013 4:03 PM

Now that I've had some time to think about it and let it settle, I'm more okay with it. But, that's only if they are forms. If they are evolutions, which I doubt (adding Mega in front of a Pokemons name isn't a great idea in terms of evolution), then that is where I have a problem. Evolution chains with four is where things will get bad. I mean, look at something like Smeargle for instance. Is it entirely fair for Blaziken, an already OU and very powerful Pokemon to get a fourth evolution, when a Pokemon like Smeargle is stuck on its own? I guess one of my main concerns is the distribution of the Megas.

Sure this idea is cool, the Pokemon look cool and all that, but, I guess I'm just missing the point of MegaPokemon. Why have them?

blue August 8th, 2013 4:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cerberus87 (Post 7774732)
Pretty sure this MegaMawile was specifically created to counter Dragons, as it's quadruple resistant to Dragon moves (Steel/Fairy). However, the regular run-of-the-mill Mawile is still weak.

I'd rather they evolved Mawile instead of Megafying it, though. It almost sounds like cheating. And the MegaMawile looks like ass.

Mega Mawile has the potential to reach the OU tier, it now has a higher attack than Deoxys-A..

Deoxys' max attack stat: 504
Mawile's max attack stat after Huge Power: 590

When set up correctly it could do some seeerious damage, looks like it sorta got the boost it needed!

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 4:12 PM

It's funny to think of some pokemon maybe getting hair for their mega forms...
Like Hariyama or Sawk.

Haza August 8th, 2013 4:17 PM

They did Ampharos so wrong though... the others look like LEGENDS... and then there's MegaAmpharos...

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7774754)
Mega Mawile has the potential to reach the OU tier, it now has a higher attack than Deoxys-A..

Deoxys' max attack stat: 504
Mawile's max attack stat after Huge Power: 590

When set up correctly it could do some seeerious damage, looks like it sorta got the boost it needed!

On top of Mawile itself also getting Fairy-type, this is definitely giving Mawile the love it needs. I'm still surprised the Huge Power ability is no longer Marill line-exclusive. This type combination means Mawile can turn into a real Dragon check so I guess it is one of the Mega-Evolutions that is good.

blue August 8th, 2013 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7774772)
On top of Mawile itself also getting Fairy-type, this is definitely giving Mawile the love it needs. I'm still surprised the Huge Power ability is no longer Marill line-exclusive. This type combination means Mawile can turn into a real Dragon check so I guess it is one of the Mega-Evolutions that is good.

Well Sableye could be considered as its counterpart and it did outweigh it in several ways with having Prankster, no weaknesses etc so I'm happy that Mawile could get the attention that it needed.

darkpokeball August 8th, 2013 4:28 PM

My first reaction: What the--?! What is this?! WHAT IS THIS?!

My reaction now, after it's had time to settle in: Really interesting concept. I'm all for it! Anyways, I'm thinking that MegaEvo is just a reversible evolution. You know, you can go back and forth Mega and not-mega as if it was a form, but it's actually an evolution, so it's a new pokemon with new moves and typing and such.

Hikamaru August 8th, 2013 4:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7774787)
Well Sableye could be considered as its counterpart and it did outweigh it in several ways with having Prankster, no weaknesses etc so I'm happy that Mawile could get the attention that it needed.

This is definitely heightening my hopes for a Sableye Mega-Evolution.

Latios Master August 8th, 2013 4:38 PM

I'm not crazy about the new idea, but I'm relieved that it's not fusion. I don't care much for the designs. I always wanted new evolutions for Absol and Mawile. It's odd that they gave one to a starter. The one for Ampharos is by far the worst, and looks very sloppily designed. The best might be Mawile, but once again, I don't really like any of them. I hope the Absol one grows on me, since Absol is one of my favorite Pokémon, but I can't stand that "hair" over it's face.

Haza August 8th, 2013 4:40 PM

Remember that anime promo for Black and White 2? I wish there was an anime that looked that way and was surrounding Mega Pokemon... I'd never watch the traditional anime again.

Esper August 8th, 2013 4:46 PM

I just saw this and I'm kind of interested in seeing where they go with it. I suppose at some point they can't keep adding new Pokemon to the list, but with this they can sort of keep adding without actually adding. I actually like the new looks on Mawile and Ampharos, but not as much with Lucario and Blaziken.

Keiran August 8th, 2013 4:47 PM

Sucker Punch + 590 attack would definitely give it a spot in Ubers. It checks Mewtwo and Deoxys, and probably OHKOs Giratina too. It resists Extremespeed so it also scares
Rayquaza and Arceus. Either way, its definitely OU at least.

But the VGC metagame doesn't have tiers, which is why this is worrying. But people are saying these evolutions occur with a held item, perhaps if they're too strong they could ban the item just like Soul Dew. Let's hope Mawile and Lucario are just scary examples, cause Ampharos looks pretty neat (and it would troll Thundurus-T so hard).

Esper August 8th, 2013 4:51 PM

I'm getting a Hamtaro vibe from Dedenne. Definitely looks like a hamster to me.

Horubii kinda looks a little Disney to me. Or at least more like something from a Western cartoon than something from Japan.

Meekuru is cute as a button! Best of the bunch, easily.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7774809)
Sucker Punch + 590 attack would definitely give it a spot in Ubers. It checks Mewtwo and Deoxys, and probably OHKOs Giratina too. It resists Extremespeed so it also scares
Rayquaza and Arceus. Either way, its definitely OU at least.

But the VGC metagame doesn't have tiers, which is why this is worrying. But people are saying these evolutions occur with a held item, perhaps if they're too strong they could ban the item just like Soul Dew. Let's hope Mawile and Lucario are just scary examples, cause Ampharos looks pretty neat (and it would troll Thundurus-T so hard).

I wonder if the Mega Forms will have the same stat skewing from Natures as the normal forms...
A Lucario with an even higher sp. atk than normal, using Aura sphere [guaranteed hit]...

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarf (Post 7774807)
I just saw this and I'm kind of interested in seeing where they go with it. I suppose at some point they can't keep adding new Pokemon to the list, but with this they can sort of keep adding without actually adding. I actually like the new looks on Mawile and Ampharos, but not as much with Lucario and Blaziken.

If this is real. Despite not liking the idea of Mega's, at all, I agree with you that Mawile and Ampharos are the most aesthetically pleasing. It's odd that everyone seems to be singling out Ampharos' design as being awful, when it actually looks pretty elegant as a maned sheep dragon.

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 5:06 PM

If it was fake, I would assume GF would have confirmed that it was fake by now. However, they still have not said anything.

I really can't wait to see a Megalution of Empoleon.

DamienHelvian August 8th, 2013 5:20 PM

I just thought of something...kind of scary
Guildmaster Wigglytuff in Mega Form.....

Entermaid August 8th, 2013 5:36 PM

So, the new movie, Pokemon Extreme Speed, with the new mewtwo forme. it states that it is his awakened forme, if I am not mistaken; so why now is it a mega evolution?? Correct me if I am mistaken. Also, has anyone watched the movie? Can anyone confirm whether or not they described the origin behind the mewtwo related pokemon.

MrGriszell August 8th, 2013 5:41 PM

Where exactly in the translation does it say that it's only a in battle evolution , and I'm using evolution instead of new forms because that's what they are, unless that was a mistranslation. I personally love this , but I'm not sure how this will work because nobody would use any of the old pokemon if everyone gets a mega evolution

Sir Codin August 8th, 2013 5:55 PM

AAAAnnnnnd, the fanbase has been cleaved into separate parts once again.

PlatinumDude August 8th, 2013 6:02 PM

Mega Mawile, Mega Ampharos and Mega Blaziken are starting to grow on me. I don't have an opinion on Mega Absol just yet.

Better prepare yourselves for the genwunners who react so negatively towards Mega Charizard

Iceshadow3317 August 8th, 2013 6:03 PM

Everything I have read is saying they are forms and that they are just called Megalutions. I highly doubt they would evolve a Mewtwo to be honest. Not to mentions Mewtwo can change between Mega and normal in the movie. I would assume it only transforms during battle. And why would you need a different hold item if the pokemon gains stats when it goes to Mega.

The again Deoxis can change forms during battle as well. Regardless it is still a form.

Sir Codin August 8th, 2013 6:04 PM

Are you kidding me? I'm looking forward to Mega Charizard!

My Mega Charizard and Mega Aggron are going to. rape. your. s***. BACKWARDS!!!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoPWALM2riQ

So lock up your daughter
And lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life
The 'zard is back in towwwwwn

The Local Joke August 8th, 2013 6:08 PM

Maybe they're going to be localized as Knight Pokemon? Like, Knight Charizard, Knight Blaziken? Sounds a lot better than Mega Charizard, to be honest.

This will only be a good idea to me if every evolutionary family gets one.


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