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D Dog master of war August 10th, 2013 8:16 PM

I like everything about 6th generation.....Ok not Honegda....Megapokes FTW let haters hate.

Shrew August 10th, 2013 9:42 PM

There are a lot of reasons to hate the new pokemon games. A new "girly" type, requiring people to buy 3DS's, and blasphemously redefining "evolution" to something digimonish.

But more than ever, the frequently-used reason to hate pokemon "that it's always the same" no longer stands. We have change! :)

Jumpleet August 10th, 2013 11:18 PM

Many people didn't like 3D games in the past, mainly because they were slow on account of the move animations. I don't have a problem with it, but I wouldn't be surprised if smarks hate the jump to 3D.

*Icecold* August 11th, 2013 8:50 AM

I freaking hate Fairy already because Game Freak doesn't seem to know very much about fairies in general. It could make an amazing type edition, but not if every single Fairy type is pink, cute, big-eyed and sparkly.

Fairies aren't about glamour and cuteness, they're about trickery and folklore. If Game Freak doesn't create any real fairy Pokémon, I'm going to avoid catching one. That one in the flower is a step in the right direction, I must admit. It could actually be a fairy.

Mega evolutions just seem forced. I don't want a super saiyan Lucario, I just want a Lucario. You don't have it make it red. I like him the way he already is.

Atomic Pirate August 11th, 2013 9:31 AM

This whole idea of a "fresh new start" is nonexistent. That was claimed during the last (worst) generation, and now people are claiming that here? Okay, so what does this gen give us?

-Digivolution Mega Evolution
-Cotton Candy
-Fairies! (That is, pink, girly Disney fairies, not the more interesting mythical creatures)
-A supposed "stronger" Mewtwo that somehow looks weaker
-Yet another purely evil team with no real motive besides being evil
-3D! (That is, terrible, lifeless 3D that wouldn't even look presentable on the N64)
-You gotta buy a 3DS! Which has so many great games, like... umm... an incomplete mess of a Mario Kart game, or... uhh... a pitifully easy Mario game, or... umm... uhh......

I swear, this is shaping up to be even worse than generation 5.

mason385 August 11th, 2013 9:40 AM

I am personally more excited for Gen 6 then Gen 5. The customization of the protagonist is a great addition

Palkia August 11th, 2013 9:55 AM

Save for Xerneas, all the fairy pokémon are just tinkerbell-esque fairy types. One of them being cotton candy really does not help as well. In my opinion that's as stupid as the upside-down pokéball.

I am quite mixed on the Mega Evolutions, it felt rather shocking when I first saw it, but it could be a decent change of pace. The designs are disappointing, most of them just have random spikes and markings all over them and they feel less natural than any Digivultion (yup, I'm going to that extreme).

Everything else I'm ok with, however this generation probably won't be one of my favourites from how it's shaping up.

BraveNewWorld August 11th, 2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Para-Dox (Post 7780440)
Save for Xerneas, all the fairy pokémon are just tinkerbell-esque fairy types. One of them being cotton candy really does not help as well. In my opinion that's as stupid as the upside-down pokéball.

Remember that some past pokemon have changed to fairy. I do agree that of the new fairy pokemon only dedenne and xerneas stray from the modern appearance of fairies.

Generic Fairy Type
Jigglypuff
Flabebe
Spritzee
Swirlix
Sylveon

More Original Fairy Type
Dedenne
Marill
Gardevoir
Mawile
Xerneas

I'm not a fan of mega evolutions of already powerful pokemon. It could have been a great concept for weaker pokemon that they didn't want to introduce an evolution for.

Bad Mega Evolutions
Mewtwo
Ampharos
Blaziken
Lucario

Good Mega Evolutions
Mawile
Absol
Kangaskhan

SkyRyder August 11th, 2013 12:01 PM

There isn't anything that I dislike about the newer generation yet. The minute the September CoroCoro was leaked with hardly any information translated, I was skeptical about the Mega evolutions since I was both stunned and confused. As time progressed and information was shown I grew an interest and accepted them. Who cares if it's SSJ Pokemon or Digi-whatever? It's something new and optional.

My views might be different than others, since I'm a competitive player rather than a casual player & that I always look at things positively, and think how much better newer mechanics can be and just stay optimistic with them rather than complaining and never accepting change. Disappointments and pessimistic expectations are usually seen through every generation, but in the end they are just opinions. To each their own.

SaniOKh August 11th, 2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dillon_68 (Post 7778962)
"Hate for New Generation 6?"

None whatsoever. =)

Same here.

All I have for the new Gen is tons and tons of... curiosity. How will the new type blend in? How well will the 5 vs 1 battles play? How will the new 3D environment impact the movements on the overworld (so far we've seen the character swinging on vines, I wonder what else he's doing...) ? How will MegaEvolutions impact balance? Finally, how many Pokémon will we be able to catch?

I think I won't be able to answer these questions for myself until I play X/Y. As of now, I'm pumped up for its release even more than I was for Gold/Silver ten years ago.

*Icecold* August 12th, 2013 10:36 AM

I'm just like running down the posts and liking everything negetive about those darned fairies!

I have a bad feeling about this generation. They're going to overeggerate everything and build up our excitement with all of these leaks and commercials. Then, they're going to let us fall and drop when the games come out.

Because I swear, if Team Flare sucks and the rivals are goody-goody friends I will scream I TOLD YOU SO at the top of my lungs.

But I'm buying it anyways. Even if the games suck, I'll still like it for what it is. Generation 5 was a big disappointment, but I still enjoy it because the Pokemon (although poorly designed) are pretty decent and the characters are hiliarious to make fun of.

jfuze174 August 12th, 2013 2:35 PM

No hate for gen 6 even though I'm still a little skeptical about the megavolves every thing else seems fine I just hope fairy types don't look too cheesy

Sweets Witch August 12th, 2013 3:14 PM

This thread is painful to read and it's the embodiment of why I hate Pokemon fans.

That being said, it's pretty stupid to hate an entire generation and people should feel bad for being that stupid especially if that hatred is directed towards games that haven't even come out yet. Personally, I rather enjoy the steady stream of info that's been released over the last few months. It's a lot more than what's been released before previous games came out, but I'll bet my kidney that they're doing it because it's going to be a worldwide release. It's not like how it usually is, where Japan gets the games first and we get all of the information sans localization stuff at once while still waiting for our copies.

The actual aesthetics of the game are "So what?" at worst and don't warrant actual hate. Let's take the Fairy type, for instance. It was introduced to keep Dragons in check because - surprise! - Dragons are wicked strong. Keeping the mentality that Dragon types are strong because Dragon type is special because they're dragons is very childish. Bringing in something to knock them down a peg and help even the playing field is a great idea because Pokemon's got a huge competitive scene that needs some major balancing. Player-enforced rules will only go so far. And who cares if they decided to call it FAIRY? Fairy types are reminiscent of different kinds of fairies, kind of like how Dragon types are reminiscent of different kinds of dragons. Saying that Fairy type is stupid because of the name is like saying that Dragon type is stupid for the same reason.

Hating on designs is just as stupid because Pokemon can be based off of literally anything. Off the top of my head there have been sentient rocks, orbs, bats, reindeer, whatever Machop is, seeds, piles of slime, flowers, balls of gas, piles of lava, birds with multiple heads, magnets, and electricity. Saying that Pokemon designs are "getting" dumb is, in itself, dumb because they've been pretty consistent.

But guess what?

Spoiler:
It's a kids game.

Stop letting nostalgia cloud your mind.

Stop it.

Stop.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/stopsign4c.gif

Appreciate the fact that the series continues to progress.

WolfMirage August 12th, 2013 3:39 PM

my and only complaint is just mega name, it just sounds and feel lazy, it like gf said forget creavity, if they change the names, then ill be happy, so far im loving the mega froms and all the other features gf as added

Atomic Pirate August 12th, 2013 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweets Witch (Post 7782554)
This thread is painful to read and it's the embodiment of why I hate Pokemon fans.

Touche. I'm sick of all the white-knighting sheeple who blindly love and accept everything GF churns out.

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Originally Posted by Sweets Witch (Post 7782554)
And who cares if they decided to call it FAIRY? Fairy types are reminiscent of different kinds of fairies, kind of like how Dragon types are reminiscent of different kinds of dragons. Saying that Fairy type is stupid because of the name is like saying that Dragon type is stupid for the same reason

Yes, different kinds of fairies. But most of them are of the over-saccharine pink sparkly puffball variant. Gardevoir, for one example, was a terrible choice of a Pokemon to tack the Fairy type onto. Just because it looks feminine doesn't mean it's a fairy. That's like saying, "Arcanine looks masculine because it has a beard. It needs to be a Fighting-type because Fighting is a masculine type".

The type is stupid because of the name, because it has nothing to do with fairies. You know, the beings from various mythologies? I'm pretty sure that there weren't any ancient mythologies that included sparkly "KAWAII DESU NE UGUU" pink abominations.

Xerneas is the only exception. And he's neither a sparkly pink thing, nor a proper mythological fairy.
He's a rainbow deer.

Dragon-types are fine because they actually look like dragons.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 12th, 2013 3:43 PM

I don't hate it but I also find the Mega tag lazy. They could added a different suffix...like Knight to all of their names...MewtwoKnight, BlazikenKnight. Or made a unique one for each one.

MrGriszell August 12th, 2013 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7782590)
Touche. I'm sick of all the white-knighting sheeple who blindly love and accept everything GF churns out.



Yes, different kinds of fairies. But most of them are of the over-saccharine pink sparkly puffball variant. Gardevoir, for one example, was a terrible choice of a Pokemon to tack the Fairy type onto. Just because it looks feminine doesn't mean it's a fairy. That's like saying, "Arcanine looks masculine because it has a beard. It needs to be a Fighting-type because Fighting is a masculine type".

The type is stupid because of the name, because it has nothing to do with fairies. You know, the beings from various mythologies? I'm pretty sure that there weren't any ancient mythologies that included sparkly "KAWAII DESU NE UGUU" pink abominations.

Xerneas is the only exception. And he's neither a sparkly pink thing, nor a proper mythological fairy.
He's a rainbow deer.

Dragon-types are fine because they actually look like dragons.

Aaaaaand that's when you lost me. I love the fairy type, and I LOVE that they're all small and pink cute animals that can take on dragons .
To be honest I personally feel that it should've been introduced earlier.

So far I love everything about gen 6 .
But that's just me. For some reason I don't get angry when a pokemon doesn't get a new evolution. I love that my rivals are just homies from my hood.

And we have to remember out of all the countries and culture that has been with pokemon , Japan's been down with it since the beginning . I mean yes pokemon is popular all over the world but not like it is in Japan . So even tho the world was hype with pokemon , the world as a whole lost interest. So Game freak catering to the japanese market is a good plan. Because of in 20 years pokemon popularity drops , while the world is on to the next thing I guarantee that Japan will be poke crazy .

So my thing is if the japanese want cute pink things I see no reason why GF wouldn't give it to them.
Maybe if the U.S would have the market to have a pokecenter in every state maybe they will listen to us. Lets face it the community is liking pokemon a lot more then they did years ago

darkpokeball August 12th, 2013 6:29 PM

PROS:
~Fairy-type! Yes, this is a pro in my opinion! I can't wait to see how this influences battle!
~Horde battles! This will shake up grinding!
~PSS! I'm especially excited for the Wonder-Trade feature! Sounds fun!
~Mega Pokemon! My first reaction was shock and a bit of hate, but then I realized it's a really awesome concept. Hoping for Mega Smeargle!
~Graphics. Need I say anything more?
~Pokemon Amie! YESSS!
~Super Training. This'll be sooo helpful in the long run.

CONS:
~Team Flare. I hate that they're limiting the evil pokemon to a fire-type theme. Froakie choosers will just breeze through them. I also hate their motives and designs. Team Flare, imo, looks terrible!
~Plot. It looks like the plot has taken a giant step backwards from Gen V.
~Sky Battles. Why do we need these again? They're just normal battles from the looks of it, but utilizing special camera angles.
~Pokemon STILL don't walk with you. That was my fav. feature in HG/SS.

Overall, the pros outweigh the cons. Looking forwards to Gen VI!

Sweets Witch August 13th, 2013 2:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7782590)
The type is stupid because of the name, because it has nothing to do with fairies. You know, the beings from various mythologies? I'm pretty sure that there weren't any ancient mythologies that included sparkly "KAWAII DESU NE UGUU" pink abominations.

>Ancient mythology
>Fairies

There's the problem right there. I really want to make a connection to fairy tales, where the dragon is a big evil beast that's slain by a hero with magical equipment, but there's no real connection to fairies there so I'll go for the next closest match: The Japanese fantasy genre.

There are tons of fairies of all kinds in Japanese fantasy. Hell, fairy companions are extremely popular and almost none of them look like Tinkerbell. Let's look at some. Warning: Image-heavy spoiler.



Etc. etc. etc. etc. Do you get my point? The games are made in Japan so the idea of fairies would be styled after kid-friendly fairies in Japanese culture. Hell, you should be arguing in favor of more fairies like Gardevoir since that's as close to Western fairies that you'll get.

MrGriszell August 13th, 2013 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by darkpokeball (Post 7782772)
PROS:

CONS:
~Team Flare. I hate that they're limiting the evil pokemon to a fire-type theme. Froakie choosers will just breeze through them. I also hate their motives and designs. Team Flare, imo, looks terrible!
~Plot. It looks like the plot has taken a giant step backwards from Gen V.
~Sky Battles. Why do we need these again? They're just normal battles from the looks of it, but utilizing special camera angles.
~Pokemon STILL don't walk with you. That was my fav. feature in HG/SS.

Overall, the pros outweigh the cons. Looking forwards to Gen VI!

1 Seriously ?in terms of evil teams pokemon Gen 1,2 we had zubats zubats and more zubats , gen 3 barly had water types mostly dark, some ground. Gen 4 we had skunks and fat kittens and oh don't forget zubats!!
Gen 5 we had watchhogs and puppies, BW2 was actually good with diversity but wait.... Didn't they bring back zubats!!!!
Ill take fire types anytime

2 lol we know absolutely nothing about the plot to even speculate on this matter

3 same reason we needed double and triple battles

4. I would of given you this one in gen 5 but now that the pokemon aren't pixels they don't look as cute following you as they did in HG Ss, lets imagine a wailord following you around in the new 3d graphics

*Icecold* August 13th, 2013 9:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweets Witch (Post 7782554)
This thread is painful to read and it's the embodiment of why I hate Pokemon fans.

That being said, it's pretty stupid to hate an entire generation and people should feel bad for being that stupid especially if that hatred is directed towards games that haven't even come out yet. Personally, I rather enjoy the steady stream of info that's been released over the last few months. It's a lot more than what's been released before previous games came out, but I'll bet my kidney that they're doing it because it's going to be a worldwide release. It's not like how it usually is, where Japan gets the games first and we get all of the information sans localization stuff at once while still waiting for our copies.

The actual aesthetics of the game are "So what?" at worst and don't warrant actual hate. Let's take the Fairy type, for instance. It was introduced to keep Dragons in check because - surprise! - Dragons are wicked strong. Keeping the mentality that Dragon types are strong because Dragon type is special because they're dragons is very childish. Bringing in something to knock them down a peg and help even the playing field is a great idea because Pokemon's got a huge competitive scene that needs some major balancing. Player-enforced rules will only go so far. And who cares if they decided to call it FAIRY? Fairy types are reminiscent of different kinds of fairies, kind of like how Dragon types are reminiscent of different kinds of dragons. Saying that Fairy type is stupid because of the name is like saying that Dragon type is stupid for the same reason.

Hating on designs is just as stupid because Pokemon can be based off of literally anything. Off the top of my head there have been sentient rocks, orbs, bats, reindeer, whatever Machop is, seeds, piles of slime, flowers, balls of gas, piles of lava, birds with multiple heads, magnets, and electricity. Saying that Pokemon designs are "getting" dumb is, in itself, dumb because they've been pretty consistent.

But guess what?

Spoiler:
It's a kids game.

Stop letting nostalgia cloud your mind.

Stop it.

Stop.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/stopsign4c.gif

Appreciate the fact that the series continues to progress.

OMG I hate you all for having opinions!!

What's your problem? People are going to dislike things no matter what. If you have a problem with people being negative with things that aren't released yet, go somewhere else please. Either ignore or be polite. Because this post is anything but. Be a bit more openminded would you? Not everyone is going to drop down to their knees and worship the Game Freak gods without question 'kay?

What really annoys me about what you've said is "don't let nostalgia cloud your mind". God, you know what I hate about the Pokemon franchise? That just because someone dislikes something newer makes them a Generaton 1/2 worshipper.

Stop jumping to conclusions and act more openminded about other people! I never even played Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal because they have remakes and I don't need to play them! Just because I dislike fairies and such doesn't make me and other people genwunners. I hate fairies because they're only designed to look adorable, and not to be based off of real fairies from mytholigy.

MrGriszell August 13th, 2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7783620)
OMG I hate you all for having opinions!!

What's your problem? People are going to dislike things no matter what. If you have a problem with people being negative with things that aren't released yet, go somewhere else please. Either ignore or be polite. Because this post is anything but. Be a bit more openminded would you? Not everyone is going to drop down to their knees and worship the Game Freak gods without question 'kay?

What really annoys me about what you've said is "don't let nostalgia cloud your mind". God, you know what I hate about the Pokemon franchise? That just because someone dislikes something newer makes them a Generaton 1/2 worshipper.

Stop jumping to conclusions and act more openminded about other people! I never even played Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal because they have remakes and I don't need to play them! Just because I dislike fairies and such doesn't make me and other people genwunners. I hate fairies because they're only designed to look adorable, and not to be based off of real fairies from mytholigy.

Lol it's funny because your post isn't Quite so polite and yet you condem him for the things your doing and your comebt is not coming off as open minded lol I see what your doing there reverse pschycolgy .

I like to think of myself a true fan of pokemon, its an aspect of my life . Some people make that aspect about sports or their job I make it about pokemon, pokemon is my part of my lifestyle ( the other two being god, and family)
I've been a fan since gen 1 when I was 6.
I'm all about the nostalgia .

But here's the thing generation one was good but not the best generation out there. Here's how I see all the gens

1 Generation one was good because it was something new there was yet to be a game like Pokémon before and this was just something interesting. Let's face it back then games were a little bit dull I mean yes you had your Mario and Final Fantasy but let's face it Pokémon really give you a connection to the character your playing. Take Mario for instance if you and your friend played Mario you will go to the same levels and beat the game around with the same things
But now look at Pokémon you and your friends can have the exact same game yet have different experiences different Pokémon and just make the game your own

22. Generation two was good because It took the old game that you love added a whole bunch of new characters and gave you a whole bunch of different new features And it lets you revisit the region of the old game to give you a huge dose of nostalgia

3. Now I'm not sure what everybody feel as for generation three. But I remember them announcing the game and seeing screenshots and stuff like that and pretty much I love everything about it of course I didn't really play the games until I was 20 years old But it really gave features such as double battles and natures which is pretty cool. I never once came close to completing the national Pokédex in generation one and generation two so not being able to migrate my Pokémon to generation 3 really wasn't that big of deal for me

4. Generation four was cool for implementing old features such as day and night Then we have the physical special split which was awesome We got wireless communications so you know so that was pretty cool you could trade with everybody all over the world.
It also took one of the greatest games gold and silver remade them and made it 10 times better

5. Generation five was cool because it made the battles faster, Added triple battles gave us dreamworld Pokémon drastically improve the Wi-Fi functions and gave us online battles Awesome mechanics such as move learn set revamp and reusable TMs
And they gave us one of the most detailed biggest deepest story we've had in a Pokémon main series game

So while I loved gen 1 I think gen 6 will be great
It's giving us a ton of new features it's giving us the ton of old Pokémon giving us old Pokémon with new transformations I see no reason why it wouldn't give us a greater story than generation five Really good wireless features The best graphics since the series came out And a awesome new type which hasn't been done since generation two And a new region and Pokémon

So I got mad love for generation six
And you're really going to have to bring your arguments up in order to show hate for .

Now granted when it comes to new Pokémon a new forms of Pokémon I understand at first you may not be feeling them because while they don't look like you might want them to look
Just keep in mind the only reason we love gen 1 pokemon was because there wasn't anything else to compare it to

Oshamaru August 13th, 2013 12:06 PM

Well, I don't know about the other people, but maybe they genuinely like everything reaveald so far about THIS Gen but disliked other changes. Just because people could genuinely like something doesn't mean they're people who blindly love and accept and worship the changes Game Freak makes.

I, for one, hated the Mega Evolution concept, and while I don't hate it anymore, I just wonder if it's a good idea or if it was neccesary. And lots of things in Gen 5.

Me pregunto si fue buena idea involucrarme en esto :I

Naikado August 13th, 2013 12:37 PM

I can't say I "hate" anything about Gen 6, because I don't fully or even well understand much of any of it yet.

I'm not too hot on fairies so far, because I love my dragons, and it feels that they're being severely undermined by being weak against a type that thus far looks frail, weak, and rather gimmicky. There's nothing about the fairies we have aside from Xerneas and a couple others that seem mystical or special or powerful to me, enough to take down a powerful beast. I know that's not what fairies are supposed to be about, but still, to me it just looks like a second normal type from the fact that the majority the Pokemon we have with it are a ribbon-covered-cutesy-fox-thing, a bottle of perfume, cotton candy, an electric hamster, a water mouse and Jigglypuff.

I can understand if that's just Japan's thing of making cutesy things into being magical, but I feel it could be done a lot better than what we're given so far, because they seem too, well, normal. But that's just me.


I'm also a bit iffy on these mega-evolutions. In some cases, we're giving major powerhouses even more power, like with Mewtwo and Blaziken, and in others we have Pokemon who might do better with an evolution instead, like Absol and Mawile. I just hope that for balance's sake, the former won't be allowed in wifi-battles or comes with a good deal of limitation, or instead of being a straight power boost, the Pokemon's power is reconfigured in a different way.

Other that I'm mainly cool with the what's been revealed so far, and I'm very excited for these games and am glad to have Y already preordered. There are no Pokemon that bug me too much, and if you don't like a Pokemon, you're probably only gonna see it when you're obliterating it.

(I still wish that food Pokemon weren't a thing but still)

Sweets Witch August 13th, 2013 6:41 PM

Let's break it down, PC user *Icecold*. Allow me to lead.

Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by *Icecold* (Post 7783620)
OMG I hate you all for having opinions!!

Nah, I just hate opinions. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion unless it's baseless or ill-informed because nobody is entitled to ignorance and that's what a majority of Pokemon hate is formed around.

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What's your problem? People are going to dislike things no matter what. If you have a problem with people being negative with things that aren't released yet, go somewhere else please.
As I said, I have major problems with baseless hatred. Ignorance is my #1 pet peeve and I refuse to let it go unchecked. As you said, the games aren't even released yet. That alone is reason enough to roll my eyes at all of this negativity. Video game fans have gotten pretty haughty in the past few years and it's a terrible, terrible trend. Whether it's complaining about Mass Effect 3's ending to the point where a new ending is made just to shut people up or having the Devil May Cry reboot bomb in consumer reviews because people were upset that it took a new direction, the video game community's self-entitlement has been a major problem. More on this later.

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Either ignore or be polite. Because this post is anything but. Be a bit more openminded would you? Not everyone is going to drop down to their knees and worship the Game Freak gods without question 'kay?
We've reached "later". This is actually a really interesting thing that I've seen pop up a bit in threads like this. That mindset is very complex due to its primarily political nature. It makes sense to question your government and your media because the potential for withheld information is EXTREMELY high. There could be life-altering secrets hidden from the public or a focus in the news that serves to strategically avert attention from something much more important, and people don't deserve to be blindly herded like that. Questioning can be a very powerful tool when used properly.

The issue with this that's been bugging me all day is that applying it to this situation is kind of...well, stupid. Keeping the mindset that one must consistently question all of a video game developer's actions doesn't really get anywhere. The game will be released regardless of how wary a handful of people are about it, and one can assume that sales will be very good by using the past as an example. That being said, there's a very simple option that most people forget: One can completely opt out of the entire experience by simply not buying or playing the game. Nothing is being forced upon anybody.

In fact, this actually turns the tables a bit. It makes more sense for people who hate the games to keep their opinions to themselves because voicing those opinions would most likely start a conflict (see: here). Hell, it's my personal opinion that going onto a site based around an entire franchise and flaunting that one hates certain aspects of that franchise even though there will obviously be backlash from those who enjoy it is a terrible idea. I also believe that the way opinions are presented factors heavily into the possible reactions that people will have. For example:

"I hate gen 6 because Fairy types are stupid and they don't even look like fairies."
vs
"I don't understand why the Fairy type is named what it is."

(I totally tried to explain that this morning, by the way) Anyway, let's move on.

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What really annoys me about what you've said is "don't let nostalgia cloud your mind". God, you know what I hate about the Pokemon franchise? That just because someone dislikes something newer makes them a Generaton 1/2 worshipper.
This is another interesting point. Nostalgia refers to a longing for the way things were and I recognize that by never singling out one specific group of games. Generally speaking, the idea that new games aren't as good as past games is a form of nostalgia. Getting into a debate over what's considered old enough to be material to nostalgia over is a huge waste of time and not on topic with this thread so we'll stay away from that. My point is that people feel like new games ruin what they consider to be the peak of the series by adding more content that those people feel is needless. This happens every generation. Every. Single. Generation. It's understandable to a degree, but at some point people who genuinely enjoy the new releases get really sick of constantly hearing about how new stuff is crap.

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Stop jumping to conclusions and act more openminded about other people!
I've given much thought to the conclusions that I've reached and I'm quite content with them. If I really must defend myself, then allow me to say that if you are entitled to your opinions then I am entitled to mine and I'm very, very sorry that they don't line up.

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I never even played Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver/Crystal because they have remakes and I don't need to play them!
You totally should just for the experience. Like, this isn't me being elitist or anything. I'm genuinely recommending them to you because they're pretty fun. At the very least, play Yellow. There's a way to catch a Mew without using a hacking device and it just relies heavily on timing.

Also the tail end of this logic can apply to X/Y as well. You don't need to play them. As I've said in past threads similar to this one, nobody is forcing new games upon consumers. Buying a video game is an entirely voluntary option that can be avoided by, er...just not buying it.

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Just because I dislike fairies and such doesn't make me and other people genwunners. I hate fairies because they're only designed to look adorable, and not to be based off of real fairies from mytholigy.
See, that type of hatred is genuinely understandable because it has an actual basis to it and just requires a bit of explanation. I tried to do so in my previous post, what with the whole "Fairy types are modeled around the standard fairy archetype in modern Japanese children's entertainment" but I was half-awake and I don't remember how well that post turned out. I'd check, but I'm going to bed soon.


And with that, I would just like to offer an apology. I was irritated - I still am a bit - and I let it show, which was a huge faux pas on my part. I was tactless and rude while trying to get my point across and I am very sorry for being that way.


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